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[Q] question about the 10 post for new member.

i wonder if these 10 post include reply to thead? or should i post 10 new thead?

i still cant submit post in developers , stupid rules...

ma20at said:
i still cant submit post in developers , stupid rules...
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Can we just say something to have 10 post? I really need to ask the developer

ya same thing happen with me.
they should change rules for noobs.

EdwardT said:
Can we just say something to have 10 post? I really need to ask the developer
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The same...

I'm also part of this new member minimum. I have been able to post before but had to change my account so now I'm stuck having to wait 10 posts before posting in the Dev section.

You started off well by posting your question here, but I see that the majority of you just want to 'ask a developer' something.
Questions do not belong in Development forums. Period.
Many of the site's Developers come into Q&A regularly specifically to answer your questions.
If your question is specific to a single device, ask it in the Q&A forum for that device, not in the Development section itself. You stand a much better chance of getting a proper answer (and not getting flamed) if you ask your questions in here.
You are welcome to post your questions in this thread, and I will provide whatever help I can, or point you in the right direction. There is so much information available here that there's a good chance your questions have been answered many times over already.
We all need to do our little bit to keep the material in Development sections clear and concise, regardless of what we see others doing
Cheers!

ma20at said:
i wonder if these 10 post include reply to thead? or should i post 10 new thead?
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10 genuine posts, not threads

how do i thank someone when i dont see a button?

Ah well I figured it out
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I dont like the10 post rule..i have an issue i need to get sorted and dont wanna run around posting in random things so i can post in the specific thread :S

We are all treated as babies and we must prove ourselves
---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:47 PM ----------
Moreover we should not rush. We must wait 5 minutes between post

I think posts on threads count too. New threads are referred to as "Topics" on this site =S
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I too think is kinda sucks to have to post 10x first but rules are rules. Been flashing for months now mainly Darky's but now switch about once a week.

I particularly enjoy this 10 post start up. It puts a pressure on people that don't belong to leave. I just bought a Skyrocket moving over to android from my iPhone 3GS and I've found this site incredibly efficient.

Its understandable don't want PPL running up the Dev sections with question anyway answered
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Already answered.....
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i don't like this rule too

That thing is weird...

I have an 8 post shortfall and want to contact a developer with what will be a common question, so I have to send a PM when a reply would be much more effective.
Suggested alternative:
- Restrict 'New topic' function to those with > 10 posts
- Allow thread starters to moderate their thread.

10 posts or less

Ridiculous rule. I mainly use other forums. When I do use XDA I can never reply because I have less than 10 posts. BUT because I can't post I get pissed and leave. Thanks to MDW, DF, and all the others for not having a stupid rule.

http://goo.gl/xB9rK

Yeh I am finding this issue too. Very annoying!
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Yeah, so just dump 10 posts in this thread and be done with it. I understand why the rule is in place, but yeah, annoying

emilianoheyns said:
Yeah, so just dump 10 posts in this thread and be done with it. I understand why the rule is in place, but yeah, annoying
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10 spam posts will be removed by the mods and your post counter reset.
Do something usefull with your posts.

How hard is it to answer some questions or chime in on a discussion? Visit your device's Q&A and General subforums and help some people out. If you can't do that, then you don't deserve to post in the other forums.
The rule is there for a reason. If you just want to say thanks or ask a question about a thread in Development, send the member a pm until you get your post count up. Or post your question in Q&A... after searching first.
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plainjane said:
....If you just want to say thanks or ask a question about a thread in Development, send the member a pm until you get your post count up. Or post your question in Q&A... after searching first.
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You shouldnt say thanks in a post, thats what the THANKS button is for. To reduce spam of that kind.
Posting your Question in a device specific or general Q&A thread is generally the best idea.
Some devs don't like it if they get PMs with question "how do i", "why does not", "how come"...
But beforehand you should have worked the search button so hard, your girlfriend got jealous....

To all the people whining and wasting space on the forums

If you have a problem with someone keep it between yourselves. You can argue with people all you want over pm.
Dev threads are for dev related materials. This means critiques, error reporting, LOGS, and relivent info. What this does not include is arguing with people. Also posts that comment to the op, saying I'm not flashing this because... please no.
Also replying to a question with this belongs here wastes space. If you don't know don't reply. If you do, answer it or post a link to a thread with the answer and then say this belongs here. We don't need 3 this belongs here to every question before someone has the heart to answer it. You're adding to the mess.
Also please read ravers post clarifying the sections. The community is becoming way too whiny and every thread is becoming a flame war.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517199
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You're absolutely correct. I, for one, have responded to posts on dev threads that I shouldn't have. No disrespect was meant to the dev it's just seeing certain posts disrespecting the op angered me to the point of responding. I will be more than happy to go back and delete it if I am able. At the very least I will edit.
Edited my post in dev thread.
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im sorry but if raver already posted something referring to this said problem, then are you yourself not whining and wasting forum space?
and once upon a time i posted this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
so you could link this thread if you like

This is addressing a different issue. The main thing here, we are a community. We all want basically the same things. We don't want to read through the flaming of other users and posting counterproductive things. Yes people will post questions in the wrong sections, etc, but it doesn't warrant 5 posts complaining about it's misplacement when it would take one to clarify and inform him KINDLY it's in the wrong place for future posts. Yes that search feature is nice, and things are crowded, but people make mistakes. We need to be a community and treat eachother with respect instead of whining and complaining at everyone.

if anyone has issues, they can use my guide thread to post them in
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I want to point people to my question in the Q&A section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518935
Answers from the mods would be nice. Because the community is creating rules and expecting people to know them in advance. The general rules are basic and dont cover a lot of what people like to claim is rules and whatnot.

yeah, this was more meant to address the people just generally being a%$es. Rules are nice and all, but we don't all need to police them, especially if it means posting 5 threads policing them.

hampsterblade said:
Also replying to a question with this belongs here wastes space. If you don't know don't reply.
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How many questions have you answered incorrectly in the dev threads today after writing this?

lumin30 said:
How many questions have you answered incorrectly in the dev threads today after writing this?
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im sorry lumin, how mu h time have you spent on irc with team acid? i guarantee its less than hamster and. i have
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What are talking kid.

lumin30 said:
How many questions have you answered incorrectly in the dev threads today after writing this?
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What he's saying is, if you can't help, don't waste yours and our time. At least answering incorrectly shows effort on one's part to help, instead of just blatantly being an ass.
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lumin30 said:
How many questions have you answered incorrectly in the dev threads today after writing this?
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Plenty. Answer the question and direct them to the right place, especially if it only takes one post to answer. If it'd take more link them to a more relivent thread.
For every one noob asking a question in the wrong place we have 5 "experts" repeating this goes here wasting more space than it'd take to answer.
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hampsterblade said:
Plenty. Answer the question and direct them to the right place, especially if it only takes one post to answer. If it'd take more link them to a more relivent thread.
For every one noob asking a question in the wrong place we have 5 "experts" repeating this goes here wasting more space than it'd take to answer.
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I'm sorry hampsterblade - I mean no disrespect - but you seem to have a Do as I say not as I do attitude with this post and your posting in the dev threads.

lumin30 said:
I'm sorry hampsterblade - I mean no disrespect - but you seem to have a Do as I say not as I do attitude with this post and your posting in the dev threads.
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Well if you DO follow his actions then you'd be in our IRC channel helping us debug and giving us logs. Hampster's one of the only new names that I've seen giving us legitimate help lately.

FBis251 said:
Well if you DO follow his actions then you'd be in our IRC channel helping us debug and giving us logs. Hampster's one of the only new names that I've seen giving us legitimate help lately.
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FB I don't plan on following others' actions. And I am not saying what he said in the OP doesn't have merit. However, it seems after he posted this he has been on a posting spree in the dev section... adding to the clutter he denounced in this post. Hell he even accidentally started thread today in the dev section talking about starting a Wiki...
I don't know how me joining the IRC channel will benefit you guys or help. I hope to help by answering noob questions so you guys don't have to. We are going to have to do hand holding whether we want to or not... I am resigned to that fact... therefore, I do my best to handle as many those requests as possible.

....As the world turns (starting to look like a soap)
As lumin30 will tell you we have had our fair number of disagreements here, but I totally agree with him. This is a somewhat relevant post, but it looks more towards the lines of "Do as I say not as I do" post. There are plenty of "This is what your supposed to do" threads like this ----->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
And if this is what the OP is referring to as "especially if it means posting 5 threads policing them."
then please look at date i wrote it (26 aug 2011). If mistaken on what your talking about then I apologize.
Just seems to me that the very thing you are preaching is being done by you.

I'm not trying to spark arguments here.
What I'm mostly saying is cut some people some slack. While it's a good thing to inform people where things should go, that doesn't mean when someone posts something in the wrong thread things only need to be said once, and if it's a simple answer just answer it and inform them it should be in a different section.
Read through some of the old threads especially Raver's roms, and yes some people are dumb reporting bugs that are in the op, or have already been reported, and not providing logs to help. That doesn't mean we need 5 people to reply to the post saying this has already been reported or this belongs in Q&A.
I'm simply saying be friendly. The overall activity of the community has gotten way too hostile. Noobs will be noobs, not that I approve of it, that doesn't mean our older members have to be dicks.
Also my post earlier was a legitimate mistake as I just opened the browser to make the post and didn't notice what section I was in. And As for the wiki I do intend to do it as I feel there is too much to put on one page with sub-pages, and that navigation wise it will make things more friendly for noobs to find information easily with a full FAQ, and wiki pages with full descriptions of roms, how to flash them, and known bugs, as things tend to get lost in the forums. I'm simply working to help out the little guys. We all had a time we were noobs too, just some are dumber than others.

noobs will be noobs, saying that just tells people hey i'm a noob and noobs will be noobs...so I'll just post where ever I like and continue not to use search
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jdubb1106 said:
noobs will be noobs, saying that just tells people hey i'm a noob and noobs will be noobs...so I'll just post where ever I like and continue not to use search
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Guh, people are so selective with what they read. I said noobs are dumb in post in the wrong place. Doesn't mean we need 5 people to police them for every post. It only makes things worse.

This thread has turned into a fail as it always has and always will.....damned if you do....damned if you dont...
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Keep the dev threads clean

This is nothing new for a lot of us but since we got ics roms there have been a lot of noobs. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS IN THE DEV THREADS. There are q&a threads for every rom so post your questions there and don't post the same question over and over. The only reason to post in the dev thread is to report bugs. Don't take this the wrong way anyone but its getting out of hand and I thought it needed to be addressed.
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A good rule of thumb is ask the question once. If a answer is not given within a day bump your question dont ask again.
If your not sure what bumping a post is I will explain. You quote your previous post that has the unanswered question. If more than one was asked then just edit out the answered questions. It would look something like this.
How come this rom is so awesome?
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in the case of aokp dont talk about ponies seriously I saw the vibrant forums and the dev had to lock thread for talking about ponies:highfive:

These are all true. So I won't quote anyone specifically. I know in the last few days you've seen me post a bit, but there are weeks/months where I don't post at all. I'm not always watching the forum and have A LIFE TO LIVE (I'm sure you do to ).
A few of you guys are my ifriends and iassociates. And I like helping out, its in my nature. But as you see, I ask in my OPs that people follow a few of my own rules. And as you can tell, when my rules are broken I lock my threads. Because I don't need to walk away from my computer to go hang out with my daughter and come back to a thread full of off topic garbage that you guys could have been chatting on IRC or on PM.
It used to be in my signature, maybe I should add it again.
How to ask questions the smart way, by Eric S. Raymond and Rick Moen.
This document is your howto on using forums, mailing lists and IRC. I can be honest and say that I don't always follow that document and am sometimes making my own mistakes.
Anyways, I highly recommend that everyone reads that document all the way through at least once.
Enjoy...

I hope people are taking the time to read this, but I doubt it.
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Hint-hint.
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Possible solution to non dev posts in dev threads

Would there be any way to have a special membership level in the forum privileges that allows posting in the dev forums, this would force people I.E. general users with questions to read and discover the Q&A forums. To get said privileges someone should simply have to request and agree not to break those rules. Good idea?
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GinkgoBiloba said:
Would there be any way to have a special membership level in the forum privileges that allows posting in the dev forums, this would force people I.E. general users with questions to read and discover the Q&A forums. To get said privileges someone should simply have to request and agree not to break those rules. Good idea?
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No. Bad idea.
The Dev forums should be locked to anyone who doesn't have special status on XDA (e.g. Devs, RCs, RTs etc). For a 'normal' user to be able to post in the Dev forum they should have to be invited and approved by the Devs - and that right could be rescinded at any time.
That would have the secondary benefit of stopping the people who continually post useless cr4p just to get their post count up to 10

SimonTS said:
No. Bad idea.
The Dev forums should be locked to anyone who doesn't have special status on XDA (e.g. Devs, RCs, RTs etc). For a 'normal' user to be able to post in the Dev forum they should have to be invited and approved by the Devs - and that right could be rescinded at any time.
That would have the secondary benefit of stopping the people who continually post useless cr4p just to get their post count up to 10
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I agree... To a point, the problem is to get RD ir RC you have to post guides or dev work... Which normally should go in the development section.
It really is a hard one and nothing will ever please all
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I'm not so sure that an invite system would be neccesary... just have a simple I agree site that gives access to the dev forums and the halfwits who go through that just to post where they shouldn't could then be banned and do everyone in these forums a favor!
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GinkgoBiloba said:
I'm not so sure that an invite system would be neccesary... just have a simple I agree site that gives access to the dev forums and the halfwits who go through that just to post where they shouldn't could then be banned and do everyone in these forums a favor!
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Umm, if you would propose that everyone who doesnt post in the correct section should be banned, then OP, you are kinda
stepping on your own feet...
As this thread belongs in About XDA...
As stated before, there doesn't seem to be a "one rule pleases all" compromise...
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I agree... To a point, the problem is to get RD ir RC you have to post guides or dev work... Which normally should go in the development section.
It really is a hard one and nothing will ever please all
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Well, for RC, you don't *necessarily* need to create threads, and that too, in the dev section...
Afaik, guides belong to the general section, but there are also accepted in the dev section if it is directly related to development, or is there to prevent non-dev posts in dev area...
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Yeah I can appreciate your sentiment but it's not a workable solution. Honestly I don't even think there's a problem, the mods are on their game and the 10 post rule helped weed out some people.

orangekid said:
Yeah I can appreciate your sentiment but it's not a workable solution. Honestly I don't even think there's a problem, the mods are on their game and the 10 post rule helped weed out some people.
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Actually, there must be something to keep them out of OT too, as n00bs come there frequently to increase their post count. I told two of them off today and I got ripped off for being a "party pooper". Sometimes, I wonder why I even bother.
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I just think if its important enough to keep the dev posts clean that they will lock them and then we get all the posts *****ing about misposts (worse then the mispost itself) then why not try something a little more locked down... why would a user like myself need access to post in a dev forum for?
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GinkgoBiloba said:
I just think if its important enough to keep the dev posts clean that they will lock them and then we get all the posts *****ing about misposts (worse then the mispost itself) then why not try something a little more locked down... why would a user like myself need access to post in a dev forum for?
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If you had frequent SODs you could up a logcat, it's very basic stuff and could potentially help the dev out.
Good ideas are always good, and i frequent the HD2 and Galaxy Nexus forums quite a bit, 2 of the busier dev forums, and don't really see problems with this.
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