Hey guys,
I didn't want to post this on the official S-OFF thread cause I didn't want to distract from the dev talk, but I was wondering what S-OFF means. I am coming from a Moto Atrix 4G where S-OFF wasn't a thing, just bootloader unlock and rooting, so if someone could explain it to me that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
r3xx3r said:
Hey guys,
I didn't want to post this on the official S-OFF thread cause I didn't want to distract from the dev talk, but I was wondering what S-OFF means. I am coming from a Moto Atrix 4G where S-OFF wasn't a thing, just bootloader unlock and rooting, so if someone could explain it to me that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
That page isn't 100% correct since with S-on we can still flash custom recovery, radios, roms, kernel but the general message is correct
Well simply put, s-off allows you to write to partitions we can't normally. It will allow you to downgrade your bootloader and other things of the sort. It doesn't void your warranty, in fact it helps keep it. Once you have unlocked your bootloader when you lock it again it says relocked, with s-off you can change it back to locked. There is more to it but that is basically what it is
thanks for the responses.
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Hi!
I have unlocked my Desire s with htcdev and I rooted it. My device still S-on.
But I need to S-off it. Is there any way to do that?
Than you!
vegerta said:
Hi!
I have unlocked my Desire s with htcdev and I rooted it. My device still S-on.
But I need to S-off it. Is there any way to do that?
Than you!
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First, read before you open a new thread, there are already guides for this.
Second, what you wanna do? Maybe unlocked is enough for you.
Look at the Index thread and you will find what you're looking for.
Swyped from my desire s far away from my pc
Hi,
I was wondering how you would root a htc desire s hboot version 2.0.0002 with S-ON. Another question I had was on htcdev where I would like to unlock the bootloader on my phone the 'S' model isn't listed. Would it come under the desire or other phone models? Thanks
take other phone models since its a desire s and not a plain desire.
if you got your bootloader unlocked u need to downgrade the bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
and continue with
http://revolutionary.io/
i didnt tried anythign of this yet but thats what id like to do with my desire s as soon as i got enough time
if youre happy with s-on you could go for the zergRush thing for temproot right after youre done with unlocking the bootloader with htcdev.
hope its correct. ive just started reading yesterady in here
€ or search for the superoneclick. same thing as the zergRush but much more easier to use
BeSeanB said:
take other phone models since its a desire s and not a plain desire.
if you got your bootloader unlocked u need to downgrade the bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
and continue with
http://revolutionary.io/
i didnt tried anythign of this yet but thats what id like to do with my desire s as soon as i got enough time
if youre happy with s-on you could go for the zergRush thing for temproot right after youre done with unlocking the bootloader with htcdev.
hope its correct. ive just started reading yesterady in here
€ or search for the superoneclick. same thing as the zergRush but much more easier to use
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OK Thanks For Your Help
is it dangerous to do this?
im no pro in flashing and all this stuff but as long as you follow the instructions there should not be any prob. if theres any high risk in bricking the device or anything there will be an extra warning i guess.
oh and one big nogo i learned by my friends phone.... never ever pull the battery
and you lose the warranty by unlock with htcdev.
Ok thanks is it reversable when the bootloader has been unlocked? Thanks
I have now unlocked the bootloader so how do i root now?
if you just need root, check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390496
if u want s-off u need to downgrad the bootloader and go for revolutionary like i posted befor
€ and always edit your post if u need to add something . dont double post like you did
u just can re-lock your bootloader with htcdev but u cant go back to the normal locked. not 100%sure about this
how do i sim-unlock now i am rooted? and what is the point of installing a rom? Thanks
deadphone99 said:
how do i sim-unlock now i am rooted? and what is the point of installing a rom? Thanks
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The point of installing a rom is that they can be smoother and more customisable, they also get rid of a lot of the branding **** that comes with the pjone.
As for sim-unlock this has nothing to do with s-off or routing, you can pay to get it unlocked from ebay, Idid it yesterday and it cost me £3.99, so very reasonable.
would this be ok? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNLOCK-CO...ultDomain_3&hash=item3cc0e2889b#ht_3192wt_952
and what is a goldcard? I am new to rooting
Looks ok, I used this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unlock-Co...ssories_RL&hash=item2c611a04e1#ht_2693wt_1344
what is a goldcard? Thanks
goldcard allows you to flash RUU files with a different CID to your device.
what would you say is the best rom? Thanks
Hello folks,
as I don't' want to start a new topic I do hope to get a straight NO answer here
I got:
- Android 2.3.5 & Sense 3.0
- Build 2.10.401.8 CL156318
- HBOOT 2.00.0002
- Rooted with SuperOneClick
- Done Unlock with HTCdev
Is there a way to install a Custom ROMs without downgrading HBOOT?
RobaL4 said:
Hello folks,
as I don't' want to start a new topic I do hope to get a straight NO answer here
I got:
- Android 2.3.5 & Sense 3.0
- Build 2.10.401.8 CL156318
- HBOOT 2.00.0002
- Rooted with SuperOneClick
- Done Unlock with HTCdev
Is there a way to install a Custom ROMs without downgrading HBOOT?
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Thats the same as mine and I would also like to know how to install custom roms on my desire s as well
yes i got the same and also like to know how to install custom roms
So I bought a One S from craigslist about 2 weeks ago. The guy said it was a dev phone. At the top on the case is a tag of numbers and letters printed on the phone. When I first boot the phone it has a HTC splash screen along with the text
"This build is for development purposes only. Do not distribute outside of HTC without HTC's permission. Failure to comply may lead to legal action."
Booting into the bootloader I get this:
*** LOCKED ***
VLE XC SHIP S-OFF RH
CID-11111111
HBOOT-0.90.0000
RADIO-0.14.31.22_2
OpenDSP-v10.1.0.31.0221
eMMC-boot
Feb 21 2012,14:27:31
HBOOT
<VOL UP> to previous item
<VOL DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
FACTORY RESET
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
IMAGE CRC
SHOW BARCODE
Also it came with CWM 5.8.1.5 already installed. I tried to use Hasoon's tool to install a more recent CWM but it wouldn't work.
I tried to unlock the bootloader using the htcdev site and token and that didn't work.
I was able to flash it with the UTB ROM using the existing CWM and it works but I cannot gain root access even though supersu is installed and I add apps to its list.
Any ideas on how to get root access?
Looking at your HBOOT version it seems like the device is on early software. You're already S-OFF, so you can try flashing the official TMO release ROM and follow the guides on XDA to root.
hammondnav said:
Looking at your HBOOT version it seems like the device is on early software. You're already S-OFF, so you can try flashing the official TMO release ROM and follow the guides on XDA to root.
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I don't see the official release. There is a thread here that says T-Mobile USA Complete Rom but there's no link to the actual ROM.
I thought reselling of these phones can land u into trouble ?
I mean the development phones
what about busybox? there's an app to install that if you don't have it
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dude thats awesome
post us some pictures of the phone and the HBOOT menu
If you are S-OFF and supercid, the possibilities are endless... flash an ruu, that should bring you upto date with the latest firmware and software..
azzledazzle said:
dude thats awesome
post us some pictures of the phone and the HBOOT menu
If you are S-OFF and supercid, the possibilities are endless... flash an ruu, that should bring you upto date with the latest firmware and software..
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it wont let me post my photo album because i am still new so i am pm'ing you the link. what are some things i can do with this phone? i'm still a noob but a quick learner. so far i've only flashed a couple of roms. currently using black dragon's. still haven't gotten root access though.
dannyy2200 said:
it wont let me post my photo album because i am still new so i am pm'ing you the link. what are some things i can do with this phone? i'm still a noob but a quick learner. so far i've only flashed a couple of roms. currently using black dragon's. still haven't gotten root access though.
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You could talk to the devs in the development section (as soon as you have your 10 posts) und help them to get s-off with providing informations maybe.
yeah man that would be a great idea, PM some and see if you can help them as for getting the bootloader unlocked, Unless HTCdev isnt working, there isnt much else yet.
why does it not work ? what errors does it give ?
hmm seems that I'm lacking some knowledge ^^
Is there any necessesity for unlocking the bootlaoder if the device already has s-off? Thouht that s-off would mean no security and full system access.
S-OFF means the NAND partition is writeable, When its S-ON this partition is locked (Security ON ), so with S-OFF we can customise even further, Flashing Radio.IMGs and lots more,
With unlocked bootloader we can do things like install a recovery and flash Root.
the perfect scenario would to have S-OFF AND Unlocked Bootloader.
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S-OFF means the NAND partition is writeable, When its S-ON this partition is locked (Security ON ), so with S-OFF we can customise even further, Flashing Radio.IMGs and lots more,
With unlocked bootloader we can do things like install a recovery and flash Root.
the perfect scenario would to have S-OFF AND Unlocked Bootloader.
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Ah alright, I thought S-OFF would already allow to flash root.
nope usually when using an S-OFF tool, such as revolutionary, It will unlock bootloader at the same time..
surely theres someone out there can can do something really awesome with this developer phone !!
azzledazzle said:
yeah man that would be a great idea, PM some and see if you can help them as for getting the bootloader unlocked, Unless HTCdev isnt working, there isnt much else yet.
why does it not work ? what errors does it give ?
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well it doesn't give me any errors, and says unlock successful, and just acts as if it went ahead and unlocked, but when i boot into the loader it still says locked. weird.
hmmmm..
maybe theres a command you can use in adb ? Im not sure..
I know the command to relock is ''fastboot oem lock'' maybe ''fastboot oem unlock'' might do something lol.
i have no idea as with most things in my life
Hi guys!
I hope it's not a problem I opened a new thread but I haven't really found a fully answered topic to my question. (I might be blind, anyway...)
So I own a Vodafone UK Branded HTC Sensation. I am thinking to root the device. I do not want to use any custom rom, I'm happy with the official one (at the moment...) and I would only like to have "ROOT Access". So, am I right that I do not need to "S-OFF"?
In this case as I understand:
1.) I have to unlock bootloader (HTCdev)
2.) Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632553 to root the device
Is that right?
After the root had been done, will I be able to remove all the applications, boot image... pre-installed by Vodafone? (Kind of "de-brand" the device) Or will I be able to install a "EU RUU" or only the "Vodafone RUU". I'm really sorry if I'm totally wrong but I have been reading the threads for couple of weeks now and I already got absolutely confused... I appreciate any help, explanation. Thank you very much in advance!
matekaneve said:
Hi guys!
I hope it's not a problem I opened a new thread but I haven't really found a fully answered topic to my question. (I might be blind, anyway...)
So I own a Vodafone UK Branded HTC Sensation. I am thinking to root the device. I do not want to use any custom rom, I'm happy with the official one (at the moment...) and I would only like to have "ROOT Access". So, am I right that I do not need to "S-OFF"?
In this case as I understand:
1.) I have to unlock bootloader (HTCdev)
2.) Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632553 to root the device
Is that right?
After the root had been done, will I be able to remove all the applications, boot image... pre-installed by Vodafone? (Kind of "de-brand" the device) Or will I be able to install a "EU RUU" or only the "Vodafone RUU". I'm really sorry if I'm totally wrong but I have been reading the threads for couple of weeks now and I already got absolutely confused... I appreciate any help, explanation. Thank you very much in advance!
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Hi,
From having a quick look at the guide in the link you don't even need to unlock the bootloader via HTCdev. Just follow the guide. I personally unlocked my bootloader and S-off'd via revolutionary.io who did a great job of beating HTCdev to the punch within months of the sensation coming out.
Here's a "Super noob guide to unlocking bootloader and s-off" which may ease your confusion. Although for the HTC Rezound , the concept for all HTC Bootloaders is the same, Just don't follow that guide verbatim otherwise bad things may happen. :laugh:
You should be able to de-bloat ( probably the search term you want to use ) your rom after root. There's also a guide for carrier unlocking knocking around somewhere which I also did, Unlocking it from 3UK grips
Good Luck
You could have probably asked your questions in the guide thread but meh, no one died and I don't think anyone's losing sleep over this post at least you've spent some time trying to figure it out on your own before calling for help
trevd said:
Hi,
From having a quick look at the guide in the link you don't even need to unlock the bootloader via HTCdev. Just follow the guide. I personally unlocked my bootloader and S-off'd via revolutionary.io who did a great job of beating HTCdev to the punch within months of the sensation coming out.
Here's a "Super noob guide to unlocking bootloader and s-off" which may ease your confusion. Although for the HTC Rezound , the concept for all HTC Bootloaders is the same, Just don't follow that guide verbatim otherwise bad things may happen. :laugh:
You should be able to de-bloat ( probably the search term you want to use ) your rom after root. There's also a guide for carrier unlocking knocking around somewhere which I also did, Unlocking it from 3UK grips
Good Luck
You could have probably asked your questions in the guide thread but meh, no one died and I don't think anyone's losing sleep over this post at least you've spent some time trying to figure it out on your own before calling for help
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Thank you very much for your reply! My Hboot version is 1.27. As far as I know I am unable to use the "revolutionary" method to S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. Anyway I will go for the htcdev one once I'm back from work! Thank you for your help again!
matekaneve said:
Thank you very much for your reply! My Hboot version is 1.27. As far as I know I am unable to use the "revolutionary" method to S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. Anyway I will go for the htcdev one once I'm back from work! Thank you for your help again!
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Hi,
Please check my signature (☺ A great starting point for all new Sensation owners ☺) for a good list of guides to s-off.
I would suggest ganesh or kgs methods.
You will also need to install a custom recovery.
Check out joaquinf's guide to installing 4EXT.
malybru said:
Hi,
Please check my signature (☺ A great starting point for all new Sensation owners ☺) for a good list of guides to s-off.
I would suggest ganesh or kgs methods.
You will also need to install a custom recovery.
Check out joaquinf's guide to installing 4EXT.
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Just an update! I managed to root my device! Now I'm a happy chappy! :victory: Thank you guys for all the help and guides! I used this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
I have root access, unlocked bootloader and 4ext installed. :good: I might try S-OFF another time...
Thank you again!
Hi guys, I wanna ask something. I hope you explain very well
My previous DS UNLOCKED with htcdev and S-ON. Then I downgrade and S-OFF but now LOCKED. Do I have to unlock it again? If yes, why? If not why?
Sent from my HTC Desire S
LOCKED or UNLOCKED marks the bootloader state.
UNLOCKED S-ON bootloader allows flashing ROM, recovery and kernel (with some limitations). LOCKED S-ON bootloader allows nothing.
When you have S-OFF, this mark doesn't have any meaning. S-OFF bootloader allows flashing whatever you want.
Since all HTC phones use the same marking from a long time ago, you can look for a thousand guides on the internet that will explain it much better. If you want to know things - search more, ask less. Until you get to the point when you search and can't find any answers.