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Hello,
I'm new to android and have been reading a lot. But not everything is clear.
With AlphaRevX you can s-off the desire s.
If you have 0.98.0000 and use AlphaRevX, will it still be 0.98.0000 or will it be upgraded to a higher number?
The desire s (gingerbread) can't be really rooted yet, only gingerbreak.
But to install a custom rom you don't need to be rooted, you only need s-off and goldcard?
Does anyone have an idea when htc will release a s-off tool or s-off bootloader?
dloulou said:
Hello,
I'm new to android and have been reading a lot. But not everything is clear.
With AlphaRevX you can s-off the desire s.
If you have 0.98.0000 and use AlphaRevX, will it still be 0.98.0000 or will it be upgraded to a higher number?
The desire s (gingerbread) can't be really rooted yet, only gingerbreak.
But to install a custom rom you don't need to be rooted, you only need s-off and goldcard?
Does anyone have an idea when htc will release a s-off tool or s-off bootloader?
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The bootloader version number will be changed after alpharevx, to 6.something, to stop accidental bootloader down grading.
Ginger beak is the exploit that we use to achieve root, So it can be rooted!
You don't need gold card.
You're right in saying that you don't need root to flash custom, just soff and a recovery, CWM or EXT4
But you do need root to take the recommend pre custom backup
I don't see htc releasing unlocked boot loader to this device till at least late september as the schedule they've announced initially involves sensation and evo3d only
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Thanks a lot, it is much clearer now.
ben_pyett said:
But you do need root to take the recommend pre custom backup
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I didn't know that.
So the only purpose of the goldgard is to downgrade the bootloader?
dloulou said:
Thanks a lot, it is much clearer now.
I didn't know that.
So the only purpose of the goldgard is to downgrade the bootloader?
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Yep, a pre-backup (a Nandroid backup) always helps and makes you feel slightly more secure when flashing!
Goldcards - I'm afraid that I'm not 100% sure about that.
A quote from @paulobrien @Modaco, "A GoldCard is a special SD card which, when inserted into your device, allows you to flash RUU (ROM Update/upgrade utility) files with a different CID to your own device. For example, if you own a T-Mobile branded device, this will allow you to flash a generic ROM."
As I don't own a network locked device I've never had to use one myself, so my knowledge about them is pretty thin.
Thanks, mine is also not a branded device.
Hi,
I was wondering how you would root a htc desire s hboot version 2.0.0002 with S-ON. Another question I had was on htcdev where I would like to unlock the bootloader on my phone the 'S' model isn't listed. Would it come under the desire or other phone models? Thanks
take other phone models since its a desire s and not a plain desire.
if you got your bootloader unlocked u need to downgrade the bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
and continue with
http://revolutionary.io/
i didnt tried anythign of this yet but thats what id like to do with my desire s as soon as i got enough time
if youre happy with s-on you could go for the zergRush thing for temproot right after youre done with unlocking the bootloader with htcdev.
hope its correct. ive just started reading yesterady in here
€ or search for the superoneclick. same thing as the zergRush but much more easier to use
BeSeanB said:
take other phone models since its a desire s and not a plain desire.
if you got your bootloader unlocked u need to downgrade the bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
and continue with
http://revolutionary.io/
i didnt tried anythign of this yet but thats what id like to do with my desire s as soon as i got enough time
if youre happy with s-on you could go for the zergRush thing for temproot right after youre done with unlocking the bootloader with htcdev.
hope its correct. ive just started reading yesterady in here
€ or search for the superoneclick. same thing as the zergRush but much more easier to use
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OK Thanks For Your Help
is it dangerous to do this?
im no pro in flashing and all this stuff but as long as you follow the instructions there should not be any prob. if theres any high risk in bricking the device or anything there will be an extra warning i guess.
oh and one big nogo i learned by my friends phone.... never ever pull the battery
and you lose the warranty by unlock with htcdev.
Ok thanks is it reversable when the bootloader has been unlocked? Thanks
I have now unlocked the bootloader so how do i root now?
if you just need root, check this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390496
if u want s-off u need to downgrad the bootloader and go for revolutionary like i posted befor
€ and always edit your post if u need to add something . dont double post like you did
u just can re-lock your bootloader with htcdev but u cant go back to the normal locked. not 100%sure about this
how do i sim-unlock now i am rooted? and what is the point of installing a rom? Thanks
deadphone99 said:
how do i sim-unlock now i am rooted? and what is the point of installing a rom? Thanks
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The point of installing a rom is that they can be smoother and more customisable, they also get rid of a lot of the branding **** that comes with the pjone.
As for sim-unlock this has nothing to do with s-off or routing, you can pay to get it unlocked from ebay, Idid it yesterday and it cost me £3.99, so very reasonable.
would this be ok? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNLOCK-CO...ultDomain_3&hash=item3cc0e2889b#ht_3192wt_952
and what is a goldcard? I am new to rooting
Looks ok, I used this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unlock-Co...ssories_RL&hash=item2c611a04e1#ht_2693wt_1344
what is a goldcard? Thanks
goldcard allows you to flash RUU files with a different CID to your device.
what would you say is the best rom? Thanks
Hello folks,
as I don't' want to start a new topic I do hope to get a straight NO answer here
I got:
- Android 2.3.5 & Sense 3.0
- Build 2.10.401.8 CL156318
- HBOOT 2.00.0002
- Rooted with SuperOneClick
- Done Unlock with HTCdev
Is there a way to install a Custom ROMs without downgrading HBOOT?
RobaL4 said:
Hello folks,
as I don't' want to start a new topic I do hope to get a straight NO answer here
I got:
- Android 2.3.5 & Sense 3.0
- Build 2.10.401.8 CL156318
- HBOOT 2.00.0002
- Rooted with SuperOneClick
- Done Unlock with HTCdev
Is there a way to install a Custom ROMs without downgrading HBOOT?
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Thats the same as mine and I would also like to know how to install custom roms on my desire s as well
yes i got the same and also like to know how to install custom roms
Hi guys!
I hope it's not a problem I opened a new thread but I haven't really found a fully answered topic to my question. (I might be blind, anyway...)
So I own a Vodafone UK Branded HTC Sensation. I am thinking to root the device. I do not want to use any custom rom, I'm happy with the official one (at the moment...) and I would only like to have "ROOT Access". So, am I right that I do not need to "S-OFF"?
In this case as I understand:
1.) I have to unlock bootloader (HTCdev)
2.) Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632553 to root the device
Is that right?
After the root had been done, will I be able to remove all the applications, boot image... pre-installed by Vodafone? (Kind of "de-brand" the device) Or will I be able to install a "EU RUU" or only the "Vodafone RUU". I'm really sorry if I'm totally wrong but I have been reading the threads for couple of weeks now and I already got absolutely confused... I appreciate any help, explanation. Thank you very much in advance!
matekaneve said:
Hi guys!
I hope it's not a problem I opened a new thread but I haven't really found a fully answered topic to my question. (I might be blind, anyway...)
So I own a Vodafone UK Branded HTC Sensation. I am thinking to root the device. I do not want to use any custom rom, I'm happy with the official one (at the moment...) and I would only like to have "ROOT Access". So, am I right that I do not need to "S-OFF"?
In this case as I understand:
1.) I have to unlock bootloader (HTCdev)
2.) Follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632553 to root the device
Is that right?
After the root had been done, will I be able to remove all the applications, boot image... pre-installed by Vodafone? (Kind of "de-brand" the device) Or will I be able to install a "EU RUU" or only the "Vodafone RUU". I'm really sorry if I'm totally wrong but I have been reading the threads for couple of weeks now and I already got absolutely confused... I appreciate any help, explanation. Thank you very much in advance!
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Hi,
From having a quick look at the guide in the link you don't even need to unlock the bootloader via HTCdev. Just follow the guide. I personally unlocked my bootloader and S-off'd via revolutionary.io who did a great job of beating HTCdev to the punch within months of the sensation coming out.
Here's a "Super noob guide to unlocking bootloader and s-off" which may ease your confusion. Although for the HTC Rezound , the concept for all HTC Bootloaders is the same, Just don't follow that guide verbatim otherwise bad things may happen. :laugh:
You should be able to de-bloat ( probably the search term you want to use ) your rom after root. There's also a guide for carrier unlocking knocking around somewhere which I also did, Unlocking it from 3UK grips
Good Luck
You could have probably asked your questions in the guide thread but meh, no one died and I don't think anyone's losing sleep over this post at least you've spent some time trying to figure it out on your own before calling for help
trevd said:
Hi,
From having a quick look at the guide in the link you don't even need to unlock the bootloader via HTCdev. Just follow the guide. I personally unlocked my bootloader and S-off'd via revolutionary.io who did a great job of beating HTCdev to the punch within months of the sensation coming out.
Here's a "Super noob guide to unlocking bootloader and s-off" which may ease your confusion. Although for the HTC Rezound , the concept for all HTC Bootloaders is the same, Just don't follow that guide verbatim otherwise bad things may happen. :laugh:
You should be able to de-bloat ( probably the search term you want to use ) your rom after root. There's also a guide for carrier unlocking knocking around somewhere which I also did, Unlocking it from 3UK grips
Good Luck
You could have probably asked your questions in the guide thread but meh, no one died and I don't think anyone's losing sleep over this post at least you've spent some time trying to figure it out on your own before calling for help
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Thank you very much for your reply! My Hboot version is 1.27. As far as I know I am unable to use the "revolutionary" method to S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. Anyway I will go for the htcdev one once I'm back from work! Thank you for your help again!
matekaneve said:
Thank you very much for your reply! My Hboot version is 1.27. As far as I know I am unable to use the "revolutionary" method to S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. Anyway I will go for the htcdev one once I'm back from work! Thank you for your help again!
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Hi,
Please check my signature (☺ A great starting point for all new Sensation owners ☺) for a good list of guides to s-off.
I would suggest ganesh or kgs methods.
You will also need to install a custom recovery.
Check out joaquinf's guide to installing 4EXT.
malybru said:
Hi,
Please check my signature (☺ A great starting point for all new Sensation owners ☺) for a good list of guides to s-off.
I would suggest ganesh or kgs methods.
You will also need to install a custom recovery.
Check out joaquinf's guide to installing 4EXT.
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Just an update! I managed to root my device! Now I'm a happy chappy! :victory: Thank you guys for all the help and guides! I used this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
I have root access, unlocked bootloader and 4ext installed. :good: I might try S-OFF another time...
Thank you again!
Hey guys,
I didn't want to post this on the official S-OFF thread cause I didn't want to distract from the dev talk, but I was wondering what S-OFF means. I am coming from a Moto Atrix 4G where S-OFF wasn't a thing, just bootloader unlock and rooting, so if someone could explain it to me that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
r3xx3r said:
Hey guys,
I didn't want to post this on the official S-OFF thread cause I didn't want to distract from the dev talk, but I was wondering what S-OFF means. I am coming from a Moto Atrix 4G where S-OFF wasn't a thing, just bootloader unlock and rooting, so if someone could explain it to me that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
That page isn't 100% correct since with S-on we can still flash custom recovery, radios, roms, kernel but the general message is correct
Well simply put, s-off allows you to write to partitions we can't normally. It will allow you to downgrade your bootloader and other things of the sort. It doesn't void your warranty, in fact it helps keep it. Once you have unlocked your bootloader when you lock it again it says relocked, with s-off you can change it back to locked. There is more to it but that is basically what it is
thanks for the responses.
Hi everybody first of all excelent website...
I never had problems but when happens I look all over ethe Google or sea developers but this time I realy can't seem to get it done.
Moving from Samsung galaxy to HTC one x I can't unlock bootloader in order to flash a recovery and a Rom
I have try several tut but nnothing dosent change CID to unlock trought htcdev or the one click method or all one kit
And yes I search in all xda I like I say I don't get it right
Can someone help me, my info is:
Hboot 2.14
Android 4.1.1
Firmware version 3.18
At&t HTC one x
Thanks to everybody
Darkpikasso said:
Hi everybody first of all excelent website...
I never had problems but when happens I look all over ethe Google or sea developers but this time I realy can't seem to get it done.
Moving from Samsung galaxy to HTC one x I can't unlock bootloader in order to flash a recovery and a Rom
I have try several tut but nnothing dosent change CID to unlock trought htcdev or the one click method or all one kit
And yes I search in all xda I like I say I don't get it right
Can someone help me, my info is:
Hboot 2.14
Android 4.1.1
Firmware version 3.18
At&t HTC one x
Thanks to everybody
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There is a thread HTC one x noobs u check that I hvnt searched enough unlocking is a simple process and it's all over the xda
Here is the url
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567916
Or just search root method for 3.18 HTC one x
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It's an at&t phone, the at&t CID is blocked by htcdev so you need to get SuperCID before being able to unlock the bootloader. Click the Everything Evita link in my signature and bookmark that thread, it's a resource thread that contains everything you'll ever need. Once you're in that thread navigate to the root section and find the 3.18 root method, this is the only method that'll work with your current firmware. Follow the instructions in that thread and then you can unlock your bootloader.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader you can install TWRP recovery which will allow you to root your stock ROM or install custom ROMs. If you need instructions on this click the How-To Guide For Beginners link in my signature, it's a thread I put together detailing some basic operations. If you have any questions feel free to ask in my Noob Friendly Q&A + General Help thread.
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You need to use the correct root method that corresponds to your firmware version in order to change your CID. Trying other methods you randomly Google around for is not going to work.
Use my Index thread, look under "ROOT" and find the method that matches your firmware number (3.18).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There is not one-click method that works for firmware 3.18. Trying methods that don't match your firmware number is a waste of time.
Also, when asking for help, you need to be absolutely specific as to what you have tried, and what you haven't (including the result such as error messages, etc). If you don't give us specifics, it makes it even harder for us to help you.
Hasoon2000's all-in-one toolkit should work on 3.18. But if this is the one you tried, you haven't told us what happens when you try to use it.
To make it easier, here's the link to the 3.18 root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285086
You'll still want to bookmark the Everything Evita thread linked in my signature.
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Thank you everybody
When I try the all in one kit gave the error of waiting for the device, updated the adv drivers and still dosent show the CID change
In htcdev give me the MID not allowed error
In most cases, all in one method, Jose method, motoXchopper method dosent seems to work what I'm going to try is to uninstall all the drivers for HTC one x and install again
Darkpikasso said:
In most cases, all in one method, Jose method, motoXchopper method dosent seems to work what I'm going to try is to uninstall all the drivers for HTC one x and install again
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What the heck is "Jose method"? Again, I think your are fumbling around with methods that aren't even intended for your device or firmware version.
Do you have a working adb environment? What is the response if you use the command:
adb devices
ruffain said:
There is a thread HTC one x noobs u check that I hvnt searched enough unlocking is a simple process and it's all over the xda
Here is the url
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567916
Or just search root method for 3.18 HTC one x
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Come on, you of all people shouldn't be giving attitude to this guy telling him he hasn't searched enough. You've asked me multiple questions that could have been answered if you had searched for the answer, including how to unlock your bootloader, that's kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
It's easy for you to say unlocking the bootloader is an easy process once you've done it. The fact is that it isn't that simple for someone who is unaware that there are different methods for different firmware versions.
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redpoint73 said:
What the heck is "Jose method"? Again, I think your are fumbling around with methods that aren't even intended for your device or firmware version.
Do you have a working adb environment? What is the response if you use the command:
adb devices
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Thank you for all the responses
The error that gives me still is the same mid not allowed
Still having problems, but someone told me that it is first to root and then change the CID to superCID 1111111 and then run a all in one program to unlock
Is it thruth?
You've been told quite a few times now that you can't unlock your bootloader until you have SuperCID. You need to use the 3.18 root method that I linked you to a few posts ago. Forget about the toolkits, just go to that thread and follow the instructions.
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Darkpikasso said:
Thank you for all the responses
The error that gives me still is the same mid not allowed
Still having problems, but someone told me that it is first to root and then change the CID to superCID 1111111 and then run a all in one program to unlock
Is it thruth?
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Ok I had the same issue several months ago. I have AT&t One x as well. I noticed I could unlock the bootloader and S-OFF when my phone was carrier unlocked. I used the roadrunner method I believe (it's been awhile). I am certain Timaaaa knows what he is saying, but if you can't find a solution, that may be your other answer as well. Worked for me.
Roadrunner? I don't think such a method exists for this device. You can't get s-off without root, you can't get root without an unlocked bootloader, you can get an unlocked bootloader without SuperCID, the only way to get SuperCID on his firmware is to use the 3.18 root method. Hence the reason that's been stated over and over again in this thread. It's the only solution. Carrier unlocking has absolutely nothing to do with the bootloader unlock / root process.
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timmaaa said:
You've been told quite a few times now that you can't unlock your bootloader until you have SuperCID. You need to use the 3.18 root method that I linked you to a few posts ago. Forget about the toolkits, just go to that thread and follow the instructions.
Sent from my Evita
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Got it, first root and then unlock
Keep you update and thanks a lot for the help
No, SuperCID, unlock, custom recovery, root.
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timmaaa said:
No, SuperCID, unlock, custom recovery, root.
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Thanks everybody for the help but I can't get superCID
The htc dosent let him write and all the exploits to change it ether dosent find the device or dosent allow to write the commands
I really don't know what is the problem
I already install new drivers uninstall the ones from Samsung that I had and nothing
Not even my phone has the option to put it in charge only it has various opcitions but none of them are charge only
What do you mean by "all the exploits"? Which exploits have you tried? Did you try the 3.18 root method I gave you the link to?
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lemonfugu said:
Ok I had the same issue several months ago. I have AT&t One x as well. I noticed I could unlock the bootloader and S-OFF when my phone was carrier unlocked. I used the roadrunner method I believe (it's been awhile). I am certain Timaaaa knows what he is saying, but if you can't find a solution, that may be your other answer as well. Worked for me.
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I got it....
I uninstall the drivers and install again there's were got the connection and unlocked but it says TEMPERED
Is that ok? Later in the afternoon I'm going to install custom recovery s-off and root
Yeah that's totally normal. I'd suggest you have a look at my How-To Guide For Beginners thread (link in my signature), it has some good instructions on your next steps.
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timmaaa said:
Roadrunner? I don't think such a method exists for this device.
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Probably is referring to the Rumrunner s-off method. And yes, carrier (SIM) unlock has nothing to do with bootloader unlock and/or s-off. Probably just a coincidence that that person was able to bootloader unlock after doing SIM unlock.
Thank you very much for the help now I have it everydone unlock, custom recovery, root and s-off.
I was having problems with faceoff to s-off but nothing big
I already have install viperxl with beastmode kernel
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