Found this in my search for portable storage. RavPower WiFi Disk/SDCard Reader. Has good reviews on Amazon and Newegg (note 1 of the 2 reviews is for the wrong product on Newegg). Has a 3000mah battery which can be used for self power or to charge you phone. Has an SDCard slot and USB slot which is compatible with both Thumb Drives and External Hard Drives (NOTE: Reviews state it will work with SOME HD's, ones that require lower power). Thing is only $60!!! I plan to get one. Check it out!
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Only thing I don't see in the specs is max size SD. Trying to research now.
UPDATE! RavPower emailed me back about capacity. This reader can handle up to a 128Gb SDCard.
UPDATE - REVIEW This is preliminary just to get something out there. Will update as I test more.
Size & Weight: The size of device is about the same as the Nexus, slightly wider yet slightly shorter and slightly thicker. I do not find it too big at all but of course I purchased this for travel and not every day use. If your looking for something tiny to carry in your pocket then you might want to look at the PQI as mentioned below. The weight is very light, lighter than the phone.
Design: The box itself has a pleasing design, will finished corners, Icons, LEDs, everything is very nice considering the much lower price than anything else on the market. Build seems solid. It is all plastic, but still solid.
Setup: It is very easy to setup. Simply press the power button and it will power up. This part does take a little time. You have to wait for both RW and WiFi LED's to go solid Blue before you can connect to the device. To connect to the device you need the Application available in the Play Store locate here. It is called MobileFun (Note: search for MobileFun as one work, not 2. If you search as 2 words you won't fine it in the store). Once you have the app, you simply connect to the device via WiFi, launch the app and your off. Note: Setting up WiFi Bridge is under Settings.
USB Interface: This seems to work flawlessly. I tested it using a Micro SDCard Adapter (with a Sandisk 64Gb Class 10 UHS-1 card), a 32GB USB 3.0 Jump Drive and my USB 3.0 external Hard Drive (Orico case with WD Black 500GB drive). All 3 connect and I am able to view/access files on the drives. If you have a External Hard Drive that requires a 2nd power source it will not work for you. PLEASE NOTE: With my SDCard Reader if I had it plugged in with the device off it would erase the card. This did not happen with my Jump Drive or Hard Drive. When you plug into the USB port with the device off it provides a 5V output for charging external device. My guess is this caused my SDCard to be wiped. So a word of caution, unplug your data drive BEFORE you power it off.
SDCard Interface: I ran into issues with one of my SDCards. My Sandisk 64Gb Micro SDCard would lose formatting every time I used it in this port. NOTE: It is a standard SD slot, an adapter is required for Micro SD. I cannot figure out what is causing this. It does not happen with any of my other SD Cards. Tested with A-Data 16GB Class 6, Partriot 32Gb Class 6, Samsung 8Gb Class 2 and Kingston 8Gb Class 4. All 4 of those cards function perfectly. All of my cards are Micro SD. I apologize, I do not own a standard SD Card to test with that.
Read/Write Speeds: Still testing this, will update once finished.
Movie Performance: All of my movies are H.264 with Variable Bit Rates. Most are .mkv but some are .avi or .mp4. I test all 3 packages in both 720P and 1080P. I used VLC Player (with Hardware Acceleration off). I streamed from the USB port only (as I do not have an SDCard) but I did stream from 3 different source, Hard Drive, Jump Drive and Micro SD Card reader. I had zero issues streaming movies. All played smoothly with no hick ups. NOTE: I am running CM10.1 with Faux Kernel. When setting up Faux clock for battery life playing these movies would not work. Audio would not line up and it would be choppy/pixelated. Setting Faux Clock to performance settings everything was smooth.
WiFi Bridge: This was unfortunately a little bit of a let down, at least on the performance side. WiFi Bridge does seem to work perfectly fine. I never had an issue connecting the device to my home WiFi nor using the internet through the device. The let down part is in performance. Speed test while directly connected to my Router are 20+Mbps consistently. Speeds while bridged through the RavPower varied from 2.5Mbps-6.5Mbps. It severely hampered speeds. Good news is that it still worked fine for most tasks, bad news is if you want to download a large file while streaming music it will slow your speeds.
Battery: I was able to stream 2 complete movies (1 at 1.5 hours long and 1 at 2 hours long). After I streamed 2 movies and my phone was almost dead there was enough juice left in the device to charge my phone up an additional 30%. The purpose of this test was to simulate travel, say on a plane. I could watch 2 movies and give my phone a little extra battery boost for when landing.
I apologize, I did not test music steaming, I would imagine it would use less power. But if it did use the same power you could stream music for 4 hours and charge your phone a little afterwards. Or, you could most likely stream for 5+ hours if you didn't need to charge your phone.
Recharge time from completely dead is unknown yet. I just killed it completely this morning, it is charging now. Will update this once complete.
File Transfer: This portion is still under testing. Will update.
Recommendation: YES. Note: If you already have an external hard drive (that does not need a second power source), jump drive or SD Card for data storage and just need something to access them I highly recommend this device. If you do not you may want to look into a wireless Hard Drive (at a much higher cost) as you can carry much more space with you. I.E. Seagate GoFlex with 500Gb or 1Tb drive. But if you don't need that much space you can get this device plus a 64Gb SDCard for $100 total, or $160 total with a 128GB SDCard/Jump Drive.
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Re: CHEAP portable wireless storage!
Quite big. Pqi about same price.
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Or you could go with something like this;Amazon Link
Which is basically the same thing you are looking at, except this one has an Android App...
It not "portable" like the one you listed, well technically it is, you can take it wherever, its certainly small enough and has WiFi & Ethernet Port.
Or you can just leave it at home and access info from wherever you are...
Or if you want to learn something, you can replace the HORRIBLE HORRIBLE (imo) stock firmware, with something like alARM. Then you can do more with it... like run a media server.
Kazliux said:
Quite big. Pqi about same price.
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RavPower is smaller, but thicker, than the N4, not too big IMO. Where did you find PQI for $60? I can't find it for less than $100 anywhere.
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Or you could go with something like this;Amazon Link
Which is basically the same thing you are looking at, except this one has an Android App...
It not "portable" like the one you listed, well technically it is, you can take it wherever, its certainly small enough and has WiFi & Ethernet Port.
Or you can just leave it at home and access info from wherever you are...
Or if you want to learn something, you can replace the HORRIBLE HORRIBLE (imo) stock firmware, with something like alARM. Then you can do more with it... like run a media server.
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Interesting. That would work for me but I'm curious how it would differ from just using iDrive or Dropbox? You would have to use the cellular data to access it away from home. So portable is the difference I guess. I would prefer portable, then it can be used on a plane or while traveling outside of good data coverage.
It does have an Android app, called MobileFun in the play store. Though I think that app is just a general wireless drive app, it's the one you use with it to transfer or stream files.
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Interesting. That would work for me but I'm curious how it would differ from just using iDrive or Dropbox? You would have to use the cellular data to access it away from home. So portable is the difference I guess. I would prefer portable, then it can be used on a plane or while traveling outside of good data coverage.
It does have an Android app, called MobileFun in the play store. Though I think that app is just a general wireless drive app, it's the one you use with it to transfer or stream files.
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It "differs" from services like DropBox, because the Data (your files) are stored on whatever hard drives/flash drives you have plugged into it.
So nothing is in the "Cloud" per-say - its all on a local drive...
It has 3 USB Ports, 2 being USB 3.0, and a SATA port. So you can add Terabytes of storage, without having to pay monthly for it.
You would use Cellular data, or WiFi while away from home... So yeah "Portable" being the difference, since it would require data from some source while the data is at home. You would not have access where data service or wifi is not available as you mentioned (which is not something I thought of in my first post) ... maybe cause I'm never with out data service, lol. There is a Seagate GoFlex Wireless Drive attached to the cloudbox - which my son sometimes unplugs and takes with him when we go places, but those are a little costly...
My Son has one in his room here (so he's not accessing the server in my basement), which I installed alARM (Arch Linux ARM) on to it. It runs a full DLNA media server, and several share folders so he can watch/save movies/files from it. He was always taking my movies (DVDs) to his house, and they would come back scratched. Now I just add them to the hard-drives and he can just watch em from the media server.. It allows him to access it from his PS3, Laptop and Nexus 7. I like this set up, because it allows one central location to store the data, yet gives both him and I access to it (and whomever else - no user connection restriction)
What your saying makes sense for what you have setup at home. I'm looking for something that I can play movies from on long drives. Long drives with spotty coverage and only EDGE when you get coverage. My wife and I like to drive places a few times a year. Since I already own a couple 64gb jump drives and 64gb MicroSD currently in my S3 this thing just makes sense.
Have you had any issues with the Go Flex? I was eyeballing that one but the price drove me away. I really think I just need something that will utilize the storage I already have.
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Was wondering would it play video files like 10 to 15 gig ?
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I'm interested in this. Can you connect to the drive and use cellular data at the same time?
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Was wondering would it play video files like 10 to 15 gig ?
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As long as the storage device you use can hold that large of a file. I don't see why not. This device does not have it's own internal storage. It is a wireless adapter for USB or SDCard storage. So if you get a 128GB SDCard, format to NTFS and put a 20 gig video on it it should stream fine. At least I would think.
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I'm interested in this. Can you connect to the drive and use cellular data at the same time?
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No, Once you phone connects to wifi cellular data is shut off. This device can connect to another wifi source and act as a Access Point for you though. So, if your at say a coffee shop you can connect the RavPower to their wifi and then your phone to the RavPower you'll have data and file access to your SDCard.
setzer715 said:
No, Once you phone connects to wifi cellular data is shut off. This device can connect to another wifi source and act as a Access Point for you though. So, if your at say a coffee shop you can connect the RavPower to their wifi and then your phone to the RavPower you'll have data and file access to your SDCard.
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do you have the RAVPower to test the speed of the internet bridge? i tried another wifi HD, the patriot guantlet, and the speed of the internet was limited to about 2-3Mbps. Is there an android app for this or just a router ip that you can configure?
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do you have the RAVPower to test the speed of the internet bridge? i tried another wifi HD, the patriot guantlet, and the speed of the internet was limited to about 2-3Mbps. Is there an android app for this or just a router ip that you can configure?
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I don't have it yet, is on order. Once I get it I'll post WiFi bridge results and update this post to am actual review.
Bump, for updated Review.
FYI - It is on sale at Newegg.com for $40 from a third party. I think a number of similar units will come on the market shortly. However, I picked up one of these.
PS If you need warranty service, newegg is insisting on having the original box.
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PPS I posted the fyi on a couple of threads. No connection with company. Just a good price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1HD0HM8076
My temporary solution for this problem is my old ZTE blade with 32gb SD card, WiFi tethered and running FTP server. Working great so far.
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Hey guys,
When I plug in a USB Hard drive into my TF101, the "Preparing" message flashes for about half a second then disappears and I seem to have no way of accessing the hard drive.
USB memory sticks work fine though, I've tried 2 different hard drives, one portable, one external with it plugged into the wall, when I tried the portable I plugged the secondary hard drive usb connection into my laptop just to make sure there was enough power.
The hard drives do spin up though, any thoughts?
I'm using the newest Revolver ROM
Many thanks.
Restart your TF.
Microsoft windows has been around for over 20 years. Android for tablets have been around for about 6 months. If you want a perfect system, go get an ipad.
I think your tampon needs changing.
But hey! thanks for the tip!
and thanks for the condescension, you must be so proud.
clap clap.
Other than this problem I'm loving my tab, loving Android as well, it's not a huge issue, guess I'll just have to change roms.
I'd never get an iProduct, they're glorified, trendy, expensive and not very functional when compared to Android.
i dont know but i dont think my western digitial harddrive works with my transformer ever. it never worked and i figured that the tablet didnt output enough voltage for it. just my thought, im probably wrong if anyone out there is more knowledgeable than me.
I have a wd 1tb USB hard drive and works flawlessly with my current rom
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Some stock versions can't read ntfs. Reformat to fat32. Or get the ipad.
Ahhh, that may explain why I couldn't access the music, photos and videos on my media drive (a 500 GB HDD that I took out of a laptop that crashed).
I thought it was the size of the drive (>64 GB)
With the ntfs issue, I am currently baffled. Some people have sworn that they got non-rooted stock and could read ntfs just fine. And some people have sworn that they got non-rooted stock and they can't read ntfs but when they reformatted to fat32 they could read them.
I've asked this many times and can't get a unified answer whether the stock can raed ntfs or not. For now, just assume yours can't and so you will have to reformat to fat32 in order to use it with your TF.
I usually keep documents and pics on the tablet itself. For my micro sd, i keep my movies and comics. I'm stumped as to what i should keep on the SD thats in the dock. I keep my music in the cloud, but also have some on my micro sd as well. Im just curious to know how others fill up all that extra space.
My 64gb micro is in the mail right now but when I get it I plan on loading it up with my movies and music. I'll be keeping docs, notes, pictures and power points on my tablet. I have yet to get the dock keyboard, I think I'll be waiting on that one until the whole tf201 dock re labelling thing dies down. Hopefully the price drops too.
I've also heard that I can partition the sd and encrypt part of it so I'll probably do that for a couple of my work docs and maybe make an on the go personal info file with important info when I'm travelling. (drivers license #, car license plate #, and passport info, physicians info, etc. )
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GCq1w2e3 said:
My 64gb micro is in the mail right now but when I get it I plan on loading it up with my movies and music. I'll be keeping docs, notes, pictures and power points on my tablet. I have yet to get the dock keyboard, I think I'll be waiting on that one until the whole tf201 dock re labelling thing dies down. Hopefully the price drops too.
I've also heard that I can partition the sd and encrypt part of it so I'll probably do that for a couple of my work docs and maybe make an on the go personal info file with important info when I'm travelling. (drivers license #, car license plate #, and passport info, physicians info, etc. )
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sounds good. What app do you plan to use for encryption?
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timrock said:
I usually keep documents and pics on the tablet itself. For my micro sd, i keep my movies and comics. I'm stumped as to what i should keep on the SD thats in the dock. I keep my music in the cloud, but also have some on my micro sd as well. Im just curious to know how others fill up all that extra space.
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I keep my pictures on the external storage -- I learnt that the hard way when my SGS2 crashed with the newest pictures not having synced to my home server yet. I lost several days of photographs, although I do not clearly remember if there were some prize-winning, once-in-a-lifetime shots amongst them. The external storage is filled up with movies, documentaries, PDFs (both work-related and private, say a magazine or so). On the go, I do not listen to music that often, and I could use my SGS2 for that if I so desire. I try to keep the internal storage reserved for things I want to consume on really short-term basis, and clear it up whenever I have digested that content. Memory cards are so cheap and large nowadays that I do not see the need for filling the internal storage first and possibly hampering Android's storage/RAM high-wire walking in the process.
GCq1w2e3 said:
My 64gb micro is in the mail right now but when I get it I plan on loading it up with my movies and music. I'll be keeping docs, notes, pictures and power points on my tablet. I have yet to get the dock keyboard, I think I'll be waiting on that one until the whole tf201 dock re labelling thing dies down. Hopefully the price drops too.
I've also heard that I can partition the sd and encrypt part of it so I'll probably do that for a couple of my work docs and maybe make an on the go personal info file with important info when I'm travelling. (drivers license #, car license plate #, and passport info, physicians info, etc. )
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Good idea on the encryption! I already use mSecure, so I do not think I'd benefit that much (I'd be giving up on the cloud sync, and if I die the password is lost anyway, LOL )...
Question: why are you holding off on the so-called ''relabelled'' dock? I have encountered no problems wih it (it even autolocks on my device docking, and as far as the external bits and lay-out are considered they seem to be identical), and the battery capacity of the TF201 dock actually is a bit higher than that of the dedicated TF700 dock (if the latter actually exists) -- 25 Wh vs. 22 Wh, which is not an immense difference, granted, but if I do a little math, it might mean an extra 1.5 hours on my device/usage combo (YMMV, of course).
MartyHulskemper said:
I keep my pictures on the external storage -- I learnt that the hard way when my SGS2 crashed with the newest pictures not having synced to my home server yet. I lost several days of photographs, although I do not clearly remember if there were some prize-winning, once-in-a-lifetime shots amongst them. The external storage is filled up with movies, documentaries, PDFs (both work-related and private, say a magazine or so). On the go, I do not listen to music that often, and I could use my SGS2 for that if I so desire. I try to keep the internal storage reserved for things I want to consume on really short-term basis, and clear it up whenever I have digested that content. Memory cards are so cheap and large nowadays that I do not see the need for filling the internal storage first and possibly hampering Android's storage/RAM high-wire walking in the process.
Good idea on the encryption! I already use mSecure, so I do not think I'd benefit that much (I'd be giving up on the cloud sync, and if I die the password is lost anyway, LOL )...
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good idea. i keep my pics internal because whenever i take a pic, its automatically uploaded to my pc (i use Ubuntu).
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Music, wallpapers and documents on the internal card, APKs and my chroot image on the external one. I dont have a card in the dock at the moment, but if I ever do it'll probably move the chroot image to that. If I ever start using the camera on a regular basis I'll probably set it to store to the external one.
I also use my external card with a card reader as a middleman between the internal card and my PC, since MTP is total @#$% in Windows and somehow far worse under Linux.
In a way looking back I wish I had not spent the money for a class 10 32 gig micro SD.
I just don't use that much external memory.
I store a few apk back-ups and some pics and music.
I seldom look at pictures or listen to music on the tab.
It is nice for the MOG or Rhapsody mobile downloads.
I however gave up those 2 mobile services after a lot frustration with their mobile apps.
Why is it such a problem moving large files, such as roms, to the sd card from a pc thru usb. It will stop and say something about camera has stopped. I had to put my sd card in the wifes HTC tb to put the rom on the card and put it back in the SG3 to install a rom. Am I missing something?
Thanks, Mike
I have this issue too and hate it big time.
I have to move 200-300mb at a time now.
Moving more is like never gonna happen. Wish they'd fix this. Hate to have to buy a micro sd OTG USB adapter just to move files around.
Try different cables. I am constantly moving large files around with no issues. In fact it's faster than moving files from my hard drives on my cpu. 1gig from sd to cpu takes less than 30 seconds. Faster from external sd/running sd speed boost.
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Tried several, tried the one that came with the SG3, tried the one that came with the HTC TB, Tried a motorola. All with same result. Moving files off sd is no issue, just moving files onto sd from pc is problematic. Few songs at a time is no issue, but a ROM is not going to happen. Gets all the way done then states camera has stopped and will not go. I keep thinking I must have an option ticked incorrectly somewhere in the phone, but if it is, I can't find it.
Mike
Your in mtp mode, not camera mode correct? Loading onto sd is good for me, 800mb rom's load on I'm less than a min. Weird.
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Actuall no I was in (PTP) camera mode. I just saw move any files. That must be the issue. I saw the MPT and thought it was just for syncing audio and such. Will try when I get off work. Thats probably the problem I was looking for, Thanks.
Mike
I have the exact same problem (one I've never had with any other phone)
I was trying to copy blue-ray rips to my 64 gig sandisk card while the card was in the phone. I am using a brand new straight from the package cable that came with my second G3 (I have 2 phones). It starts to copy just fine, but quits 1/2 way thru & stops responding. every single time.
This is a brand new I7 PC that I just built a few weeks ago running Windows Seven Pro with 8 gigs of DDR3 RAM.
If I use a universal reader (even thru a USB HUB) the files copy just fine either from any of the three 2 terrabyte secondary hard drives or from the solid state boot drive to the card.
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I have the exact same problem (one I've never had with any other phone)
I was trying to copy blue-ray rips to my 64 gig sandisk card while the card was in the phone. I am using a brand new straight from the package cable that came with my second G3 (I have 2 phones). It starts to copy just fine, but quits 1/2 way thru & stops responding. every single time.
This is a brand new I7 PC that I just built a few weeks ago running Windows Seven Pro with 8 gigs of DDR3 RAM.
If I use a universal reader (even thru a USB HUB) the files copy just fine either from any of the three 2 terrabyte secondary hard drives or from the solid state boot drive to the card.
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More than likely its as annoyingduck said, try mtp mode not ptp(camera). I think ptp is just optimized to do a 'camera' sync onto your computer. (for windows users, that annoying dialog box that pops up asking if you want to sync video, pictures, make a dvd, etc...)
I didn't realize I had the same problem as well. Awhile ago, I noticed that my data transfers would time out and I've only ever used camera mode. Thanks for the tip!
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You could also give Airdroid a shot. It works over wifi so it's just a touch slower than the USB cable, but it's super solid and is wireless too!
No mention of manufacturer, class or capacity of sdcard?
Makes a huge difference.
Also make sure to be using an OEM usb cable from a major manufacturer. Knock off or cheapy dollar store cables just don't cut it for charging, let alone transfer...
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You could also give Airdroid a shot. It works over wifi so it's just a touch slower than the USB cable, but it's super solid and is wireless too!
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I actually find it a shade faster than my pitiful USB 2.0 ports.
Takes about 5-10 minutes to xfer 700mb files on Airdroid. I think anyways, I'm guestimating from about 10 hours ago when I xferred a 700mb file. I wasn't on top of it but I'm pretty sure it finished closer to the 5 minute mark...
That fixed it, switched mode and tranfered a rom. First time it timed out, tried again and it went through fine. Was using the OEM cable with a 32 gb sd, not sure of class. I know its not a 10. Will take a look at Airdroid, thanks for that tip.
Thanks, Mike
I like using samba wireless. It's free but requires root.
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No mention of manufacturer, class or capacity of sdcard?
Makes a huge difference.
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Sandisk (junk, I've had three burn up) class 10
I can take the card & stick it in my Rezounds & it loads fine, put it back in the G3 & nothing but problems so I gave up and use a card reader.
So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?
I sincerely doubt it'll come back, their most direct competitor (Apple) hasn't supported secondary storage ever so the general public doesn't seem to care.
I have an S21+ and I made sure to get one with 256 GB storage - I reviewed how much local storage I used on my S*+ SD card and "only" had about 100GB on a device with only 64GB internal storage. So, I figure 256 should be okay long term.
The only class of data I haven't pulled across from my SD card was the local photo albums, but they were only a few GB. I may yet refresh that but the days of "here look at my pics" and not having enough data network or wifi for Google Photos to function well are long behind me.
Now, the offline mapping data and offline music storage - that's the bulk of my data, and the ~ 100 GB usage leaves plenty of space left for apps and OS updates and such, for me.
If your uses include numerous large apps (e.g. games) and much more content then you'd need the 512GB variant to be safe, IMO.
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So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?
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I almost didn't buy my S21+ 5G because of no SD card slot.
My S9+ had the SD card slot and I miss it.
Screw samsung. No slot, no sale.
Between that and Android 11/12 and their Apple lust, the next release looks like it will be more dog meat. I'll get a used Note 10+ 512gb running on Pie, remain happy and save money.
Ain't nothing to me...
The Note 20 U is the other option but it's price for now is too high. If it doesn't have a huge square cornered display, I don't want to look at it.
The round corner displays looked horrible. Samsung will probably screw up there too.
I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.
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I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.
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You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.
Try AnyBackup, you can transfer your data to micro SD card easily, if you are a fan of Micro SD card.
you can google it for details.
SD card slots are like the optical drives in PC, IMHO. You're scared that you might need it one day, but they're obsolete already. You can easily (and better) replace them with USB-C flash drives. I've been without an optical drive on my pc for 10 years and without SD card on my phones for 3+ years (Starting with Huawei P20 Pro and now GS21+) and never have a problem. Won't go back to SD cards either as well.
I never use SD cards as data storage mainly because they're slow. Try recording a 4K video on SD card and you'll know what I mean. Unless you've got a UHS II or above class SD card, you'll have problems.
Storage space-wise, My P20 Pro is 128GB and now my GS21+ is 256 GB and I never have problem with space. If you took a lot of videos or photos, just backup your vids or photos to a USB-C flash drive and delete it from your phone periodically.
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You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.
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I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.
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I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.
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All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
blackhawk said:
All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Cut and paste only. Especially for wav files.
blackhawk said:
All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.
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Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.
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Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.
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Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.
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You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.
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You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.
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No SD card slot was a bad bet on Samsung's part. High end phones are a luxury now... they better be loaded with more than bloatware. It is their customers that define them not the other way around. Customer loyalty is a gift best not abused.
Word on the street is there will more flagship phones with SD card slots in 2022.
Either way I'm good for another 5 years.
Right it's Android that's the bottleneck... and it's in a high G flat spin. 11 is a disaster.
Q is as high as I'll go but Pie is preferable.
In five years Android like Apple may not matter to me
I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!
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I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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So... you really do need the 2 SD card slots
Cloud stuff can puke all over you at any given moment. At least it take a near EMI pulse to kill the phone otherwise even with no internet you still got some fun in your pocket.
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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It's not a question of how many movies I can watch, it's having the ability to watch anything I chose. Same with music however audio files are nowhere near the size as movies which are typically 1.5 to 3GB's. Your solution isn't practical for ME as many times my travel is on long haul flights, 15 hours or more where accessing the internet is costly or in some instances unavailable. So this solution is the most practical option. NAS may be a more secure cloud platform but it's still not beyond the reach of expert hackers if they ever chose to target it. Beyond that lots of users still utilize and appreciate MicroSD Storage on phones, laptops and PC's and many feel Samsung and other manufacturers dropped the feature too soon without having a more practical solution in place. Samsung and others main goal was increasing profitability, which explains why they cut back on internal storage on S21 and S21 Plus devices. To put it in prospective up until the S21 you could have your total memory up to 2TB's but now most are limited to 256GB's and a lower share at 512GB's. That's a huge difference one model later. Then on dual-sim card trays Samsung modified the template so it's now stacked to save internal space. They could have easily made one side of the tray template a bit larger to accommodate a MicroSD. So the issue isn't with saving hardware space, it's no doubt $$$. To pay around $1,400.00 USD for a massive device without a tiny MicroSD is a sin!
I just bought an A53 , stepping down from "flagships" because the newest ones all lack expandable storage.
This feature is a MUST for me!
I've found the A53's interfacing to the card slot to be so EXTREMELY slow, to make it unusable!!!
Anyone else seeing this as well?
(I'm using a 1TB SanDisk - about 75% full - that worked quite well in my previous phone)
Is it the Exynos chipset (vs. Snapdragon previously) that is causing the difference?
Is anyone here using a large capacity microSD without any noticable speed issues?
Anything I might do to improve the situation???
(Aside from sending the phone back?)
And if I have to resort to that - recommendations on a good pgone w/ expandable storage - up to 1TB)?
(Many only specced to 256 GB)
What is slow? From internal memory to SD card or via Cport to SD card?
Is it a V30 rated card ie Sandisk Extreme?
On my N10+ with a V30 rated Sandisk:
Internal write 3.4-4gb @ minute
External write 1-2.2 gb @ minute, I believe it was.
An external transfer takes about 3.5 hrs for 400gb of data. Rates very somewhat depending on file structure and type.
The .5tb Sandisk Extreme is slightly faster. Both stream high res vids with no issues. Zero problems with both.
Once in the phone format card with phone before using. Do not remove the card once installed; instead do data transfers via the Cport. Do Not use in other devices unless formatting in new device first as it can cause card corruption. I was able to transfer my older .5tb card to my new N10+ without a format with no issues. However in general I don't recommend this practice. A corrupted card is a very rude surprise.
A used N10+ in good condition trumps a newer midrange Samsung especially if 5G and variable refresh rate display aren't important to you. It's a beast that runs like a she bat out of hell.
Many thanks, Blackhawk for your prompt and helpful reply!
Simply reading from the SD card, and getting a listing of files in s folder is very slow.
Here's an example:
Moving files from one folder to another on the SD card...
9634 files, 12.7 GB ; has taken over 29 HOURS
That's 2 hours per gigabyte.
Other transfers from internal memory to SD are also very slow, and often fail
depending on the file manager I try to do it with.
The card is a SanDisk 1TB Ultra MicroSDXC UHS - 120MB/s, C10
and as I mentioned, it has worked fine on my previous phone.
I've tried several different file managers with varying results.
They vary from completely inoperable to barely functional.
(The 2 hours per gigabyte is the BEST I could come up with )
The card was formatted in the old phone, and some transfers in and out were with a Windows PC in between.
I'll try offloading the contents to another drive and formatting in the A53 before copying back again.
5G is important - and a Note 10+ 5G would be an available option - but only available as refurbished now.
I may go there if the reformat experiment doesn't pan out.
Thanks again!
This is the one that you wanted for best speed. V30 rated. Even so your transfer rates aren't even near the ballpark.
Try reforming the card in the phone. Maybe a bad card; always buy from a reputable source, if it seems too inexpensive it's likely a fake. They are out there! B&H Photo, Western Digital and Amazon are good sources.
Unlikely it's the phone but check the contacts and clean the SD card contacts with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol. Never touch the contacts.
I don't recommend the N10+ 5G variant as it's a first generation 5G and will likely chew up battery life. 4G works well enough to stream vids and many sites cap their downloads making 5G irrelevant. New N10+'s may still be available if you look hard enough. I picked up one 9 months ago, not cheap but in a factory sealed box, perfect condition and running on Android 10.
Although I prefer Pie, 10 is ok, 11 not so much because scoped storage is fully active, 12 I won't touch. Pie is relatively secure unless you do stupid things. This device in my hand load is over 2 yo still running fast and stable.
Snapdragon is the preferred variant (better chipset and heat sink) unless you want to root.
The N10+ has maybe the best display available in terms of white point, color calibration/accuracy and gamma. The variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to calibrate across the multiple display rates/brightness levels. As such the N10+ likely beats out even the newest Samsung flagships in these specs. Color accuracy is important to me; without accurate color calibration the gamma calibration sucks.
I deliberately chose a new N10+ over the N20U because of the above plus better form factor, the spen is on the right side, better SOT and reliability. The only repair my N10+ has had is a replacement battery. It looks, feels and runs like new. It's a gorgeous beast even today and a blast to use.