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How much does class speed matter for a smart phone. I was under the impression that it's mainly important for video capture and photography (when using a digital camera).
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There is no requirement or restriction on this. Anything microSD or microSD HC will work. Recommended is to get class 2 or better card in order to achieve better speeds when copying stuff from/to phone via USB in disk drive mode.
However under 'anything' do not assume you should go and get the cheapest ever card you find on eBay or something - if card isn't functioning good, phone may experience wired behaviour like resets/etc. Get something recognizable (SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
Some video camcorders require certain class+ card in order to keep up with HD recording bandwidth required. Since D2G can't even shoot 720p, even slowest card will be ok. Not that 720p would have required more...
leobg said:
There is no requirement or restriction on this....
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Leo are you certain it will take ClassIII memory? It makes sense just not sure the hardware did that.
to the OQ - If they come out with a newer class there might be a compatibility issue with the phone but XDA folks usually finds away to support them soon after via a patch.
Stay away from old legacy (Not Classed) SD cards. Go for the fastest and largest you can afford.
Android rely's much more on the SDcard than WM ever did.
the phone should support up to class 6 (or whatever is the highest class) just fine, class just means the speed of the card, the d2g supports any class micro sd card up to 32gb in size, so as long as you dont exceed that, youre fine. the speed of the card could be a factor for programs that cache to your sd card, youd want a faster sd card if you plan to have programs do that.
I am pretty sure the class is backwards compatible. Kinda like USB 2.0 and 1.0. Its going to use the fastest the device is capable of using. I think it's more the size limits (In the case of android, 32gb) that matters. Granted, I could be mistaken.
I have a 32GB micro SD in my Galaxy S2, Acer A500 and my cameras. I just noticed that when transferring large files, transfers that in turn take a long time of read / writes the card gets real hot. I can't say for sure, but I feel that when the card gets hot, it then slows down.
Has anyone else noticed this? Most of my cards are Sandisk. I don't know if my 16GB cards do the same, I can test it if you want.
yes the micro sd card on my phone runs exceptionally hot sometimes. It has a steel enclosure so maybe that is conducting the heat from the battery or it could be due to chip in the sd card running many read write cycles. Have you made a swap partition by any chance or increased the cache to 2048. These are known to increase performance but at the cost of sd card life.
In my experience though, the heat is really nothing to worry about.
You'll probably find that the card gets hotter when writing, as the power required to "write" a cell is much greater than the power required to read it back. It shouldn't affect performance, but may affect longevity of the card.
That being said, it's solid state, so the heat shouldn't be much of an issue (except if the plastic casing is melting...).
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Have you made a swap partition by any chance or increased the cache to 2048. These are known to increase performance but at the cost of sd card life.
In my experience though, the heat is really nothing to worry about.
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Nope, no swap partition. Like I said, I only noticed it:
1- when its in the USB card reader on my laptop (I can actually touch it that way when its in use) &
2- Its only in that card reader if and when I plan on doing LARGE file transfers, 5GB+. That obviously puts more strain on the internals.
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Nope, no swap partition. Like I said, I only noticed it:
1- when its in the USB card reader on my laptop (I can actually touch it that way when its in use) &
2- Its only in that card reader if and when I plan on doing LARGE file transfers, 5GB+. That obviously puts more strain on the internals.
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Nope, it can operate normally without issues...
"SanDisk microSD and microSDHC memory cards add storage space for photos and apps ... They can operate in temperatures ranging from -13 to 185 degrees ..."
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source: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/class4/
But I have class 10 64 GB and it work as speedy as it should even if its hot, and the plastic coating somehow getting weird Gray colour.
hope I am not late. hehe.
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I know this thread is old but so future xda developers might happen upon these answers. I had same issuses due to bent pins on my mainboard. Lost 2 32gb cards thinking it was everything under the sun but that.
I have 128gb Samsung 2017 model micro sd card and it runs super hot eating all of my phone battery. I looked up some forums and people say that it might be defect card. I hope that's not true because i payed a lot of money for this tiny thing.
I can get my phone to backup to the Samsung account and cloud but if my sdcard is In it takes an ungodly amount of time to calculate the amount of music I have on the sdcard so I give up.
I've switched it dso it doesn't backup my music (which is on the 128gb memory card) but it still wants to calculate it every time.
I want to be able to backup without having to take the memory card out
Any ideas?
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I can get my phone to backup to the Samsung account and cloud but if my sdcard is In it takes an ungodly amount of time to calculate the amount of music I have on the sdcard so I give up.
I've switched it dso it doesn't backup my music (which is on the 128gb memory card) but it still wants to calculate it every time.
I want to be able to backup without having to take the memory card out
Any ideas?
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Do you have wifi turned on?
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it works perfectly........... but only when the sd card is out of the phone. before backing up it seems to want to calculate how much music is on the sd card
mikeyaj said:
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it works perfectly........... but only when the sd card is out of the phone. before backing up it seems to want to calculate how much music is on the sd card
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I have a 200Gb card with loads of images and music and don't have any issues. Did you disable any services with Package Disabler pro? That might be an issue as when you restore a backup from the cloud you have to re-enable all services.
Could be a fake SD card. Did you buy it from a reputable seller? Fake cards can be incredibly slow or take ages to scan contents because they often use shady tactics to make the card appear to be 128Gb for example when accessed on a phone or PC while in reality being much smaller in capacity (2-16gb etc). These fake cards can look incredibly convincing too so dont be fooled by an elaborate copy.
Here's an app from the Play Store that can check if you have a counterfeit sdcard, SD Insight. The app isn't compatible with the S8 but if you have an older phone you can test your sdcard.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.humanlogic.sdi
Card has been used in 3 Samsung phones. Never had this issue before. Is not a fake card and not disabled and packages
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Card has been used in 3 Samsung phones. Never had this issue before. Is not a fake card and not disabled and packages
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If its been with you for at least 3 phone cycles, was the speed ever really that good to begin with? It sounds like it may be an older card perhaps. Keep in mind, technology moves quick.
If you happen to be using a card that was cheap/midrange only a couple years ago, it would stand to reason that it may be underwhelming and feeling pretty slow by today's standards.
Download an app along the lines of "A1 SD Bench" and run a test for me. Post your Read/Write speed results in here for us when you're finished.
If the result of this test is poor you may want to look at the newer UHS-I supported cards if speed is becoming an issue.
I bought the card pretty much when 128gb micro SD cards were released and use it every day in the phone with no problems to play music and store pics
To be fair I presume that means it's old tech and I've been meaning to replace it. Just bought a brand new Samsung 256gb one.
Don't understand what any of the jargon means regarding sdcards and can't be bothered to test the issue.
To be fair it never occurred to me that the card is a bit long In the tooth as I've used it with the s7 edge with no probs. So just surprised the s8 struggles
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I bought the card pretty much when 128gb micro SD cards were released and use it every day in the phone with no problems to play music and store pics
To be fair I presume that means it's old tech and I've been meaning to replace it. Just bought a brand new Samsung 256gb one.
Don't understand what any of the jargon means regarding sdcards and can't be bothered to test the issue.
To be fair it never occurred to me that the card is a bit long In the tooth as I've used it with the s7 edge with no probs. So just surprised the s8 struggles
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Why even bother posting if you "you can't be bothered to test the issue?"
Because I decided I wanted to.
I tend to do what I want and considering the card is in 100% working order what's the point.
If times have changed and I've gotten to answer that it's old tech I can replace it with newer tech.
Thanks for your help but I can assure you I'll post what I want, when I want, how I want. I don't have to do anything I don't want to when I've already been told the card is old tech
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I bought the card pretty much when 128gb micro SD cards were released and use it every day in the phone with no problems to play music and store pics
To be fair I presume that means it's old tech and I've been meaning to replace it. Just bought a brand new Samsung 256gb one.
Don't understand what any of the jargon means regarding sdcards and can't be bothered to test the issue.
To be fair it never occurred to me that the card is a bit long In the tooth as I've used it with the s7 edge with no probs. So just surprised the s8 struggles
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Ah yes, I figured that was the case. It will be interesting to know if that new card solves your problem. If you still want to run a quick benchmark on your old card its not as involved as it sounds. If you use the app I recommended before you just choose your SD card in the UI and it should only take a few minutes to run a speed test.
Read speed: 33.97 mb/s
Write speed: 10:78 mb/s
Presume this is rubbish. I bought the SanDisk card the week 128gb cards were released in the UK so it's quite old now but never had any problem with it.
All photos and all my music is on the card. Never had any issues with it. Have now purchased the following:
Samsung MB-MC256DAEU 256 GB EVO Plus MicroSDXC UHS-I Grade 3 Class 10
My 2 year old 200Gb card:
Read 1692.00MB/s
Write 14.81MB/s
mikeyaj said:
Read speed: 33.97 mb/s
Write speed: 10:78 mb/s
Presume this is rubbish. I bought the SanDisk card the week 128gb cards were released in the UK so it's quite old now but never had any problem with it.
All photos and all my music is on the card. Never had any issues with it. Have now purchased the following:
Samsung MB-MC256DAEU 256 GB EVO Plus MicroSDXC UHS-I Grade 3 Class 10
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Oh wow, that write speed is pretty terrible. The read speed is "passable" I guess but still below average and well below the UHS-I cards.
I had one of the first 64GB Sandisk cards (around the time of the Galaxy S4 I'd like to say?) so I know what you mean but that thing was relegated to my drawer long ago after I realized just how agonizingly slooow it was.
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Oh wow, that write speed is pretty terrible. The read speed is "passable" I guess but still below average and well below the UHS-I cards.
I had one of the first 64GB Sandisk cards (around the time of the Galaxy S4 I'd like to say?) so I know what you mean but that thing was relegated to my drawer long ago after I realized just how agonizingly slooow it was.
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it isn't slow
it's perfect for listening to music from and saving all pics to. perfect to the point of there would be no need to change the card. exceptional performance.
why the s8 has issues trying to calculate the amount of music on it to back-up even when i've toggled it NOT to backup music is a bit of a stupid upgrade on the s8 when the s7 was fine.
maybe samsung haven't figured out that most sd card users just throw pics, film and music on it so it doesn't need to be super fast as they've toggled off the backup option. seems to be a really strange software decision to try and calculated stuff to back up you don't want backing up lol
Objectively it is on the slow side but I understand what you mean. If all you plan on doing is copying a load of files to it once and only need it to access a few songs or pics here and there than you're right it should be fine. Let us know if you're able to solve your issue with a new card or whether the problem persists. :good:
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Objectively it is on the slow side but I understand what you mean. If all you plan on doing is copying a load of files to it once and only need it to access a few songs or pics here and there than you're right it should be fine. Let us know if you're able to solve your issue with a new card or whether the problem persists. :good:
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I've used it all an excuse to buy the 256gb card though.
Is the one I've bought any good?
Samsung MB-MC256DAEU 256 GB EVO Plus MicroSDXC UHS-I Grade 3 Class 10
Its quick as hell. "Up to 95MB/s Read and 90MB/s Write speed with UHS-I, Class 10 and U3 compatibility."
It should serve you well for quite a while I'd imagine. Even I'm tempted to get one right now.
Waterproof (IEC 60529, IPX7)
Temperature-proof
X-ray-proof
Magnetic-proof
10 year warranty
Not bad, not bad.
I've never had a Samsung card . Always had the sandisk ones
So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?
I sincerely doubt it'll come back, their most direct competitor (Apple) hasn't supported secondary storage ever so the general public doesn't seem to care.
I have an S21+ and I made sure to get one with 256 GB storage - I reviewed how much local storage I used on my S*+ SD card and "only" had about 100GB on a device with only 64GB internal storage. So, I figure 256 should be okay long term.
The only class of data I haven't pulled across from my SD card was the local photo albums, but they were only a few GB. I may yet refresh that but the days of "here look at my pics" and not having enough data network or wifi for Google Photos to function well are long behind me.
Now, the offline mapping data and offline music storage - that's the bulk of my data, and the ~ 100 GB usage leaves plenty of space left for apps and OS updates and such, for me.
If your uses include numerous large apps (e.g. games) and much more content then you'd need the 512GB variant to be safe, IMO.
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So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?
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I almost didn't buy my S21+ 5G because of no SD card slot.
My S9+ had the SD card slot and I miss it.
Screw samsung. No slot, no sale.
Between that and Android 11/12 and their Apple lust, the next release looks like it will be more dog meat. I'll get a used Note 10+ 512gb running on Pie, remain happy and save money.
Ain't nothing to me...
The Note 20 U is the other option but it's price for now is too high. If it doesn't have a huge square cornered display, I don't want to look at it.
The round corner displays looked horrible. Samsung will probably screw up there too.
I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.
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I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.
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You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.
Try AnyBackup, you can transfer your data to micro SD card easily, if you are a fan of Micro SD card.
you can google it for details.
SD card slots are like the optical drives in PC, IMHO. You're scared that you might need it one day, but they're obsolete already. You can easily (and better) replace them with USB-C flash drives. I've been without an optical drive on my pc for 10 years and without SD card on my phones for 3+ years (Starting with Huawei P20 Pro and now GS21+) and never have a problem. Won't go back to SD cards either as well.
I never use SD cards as data storage mainly because they're slow. Try recording a 4K video on SD card and you'll know what I mean. Unless you've got a UHS II or above class SD card, you'll have problems.
Storage space-wise, My P20 Pro is 128GB and now my GS21+ is 256 GB and I never have problem with space. If you took a lot of videos or photos, just backup your vids or photos to a USB-C flash drive and delete it from your phone periodically.
blackhawk said:
You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.
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I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.
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I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.
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All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Give Anybackup a try. It can really help you with it. 1000 images and video backup to micro SD or USB for about 30 minutes (tested)
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Jason_Nguyen111 said:
Give Anybackup a try. It can really help you with it. 1000 images and video backup to micro SD or USB for about 30 minutes (tested)
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Completely AUTO backup while 100W Super Fast Charge for iOS & Android. APPLE MFi-certified product. | Check out 'AnyBackup: Offline AutoBackup & 100W FastCharge' on Indiegogo.
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Cut and paste only. Especially for wav files.
blackhawk said:
All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.
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Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.
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Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.
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Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.
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You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.
spiderx_mm said:
You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.
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No SD card slot was a bad bet on Samsung's part. High end phones are a luxury now... they better be loaded with more than bloatware. It is their customers that define them not the other way around. Customer loyalty is a gift best not abused.
Word on the street is there will more flagship phones with SD card slots in 2022.
Either way I'm good for another 5 years.
Right it's Android that's the bottleneck... and it's in a high G flat spin. 11 is a disaster.
Q is as high as I'll go but Pie is preferable.
In five years Android like Apple may not matter to me
I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!
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I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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So... you really do need the 2 SD card slots
Cloud stuff can puke all over you at any given moment. At least it take a near EMI pulse to kill the phone otherwise even with no internet you still got some fun in your pocket.
spiderx_mm said:
that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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It's not a question of how many movies I can watch, it's having the ability to watch anything I chose. Same with music however audio files are nowhere near the size as movies which are typically 1.5 to 3GB's. Your solution isn't practical for ME as many times my travel is on long haul flights, 15 hours or more where accessing the internet is costly or in some instances unavailable. So this solution is the most practical option. NAS may be a more secure cloud platform but it's still not beyond the reach of expert hackers if they ever chose to target it. Beyond that lots of users still utilize and appreciate MicroSD Storage on phones, laptops and PC's and many feel Samsung and other manufacturers dropped the feature too soon without having a more practical solution in place. Samsung and others main goal was increasing profitability, which explains why they cut back on internal storage on S21 and S21 Plus devices. To put it in prospective up until the S21 you could have your total memory up to 2TB's but now most are limited to 256GB's and a lower share at 512GB's. That's a huge difference one model later. Then on dual-sim card trays Samsung modified the template so it's now stacked to save internal space. They could have easily made one side of the tray template a bit larger to accommodate a MicroSD. So the issue isn't with saving hardware space, it's no doubt $$$. To pay around $1,400.00 USD for a massive device without a tiny MicroSD is a sin!
Hi folks, I'm a pretty old member and have returned after so many years just to get some info about the slow write speeds on the Xperia 5ii. I would like to know from y'all those who own 5ii or similar phone, what speeds are you getting with the SD card?
Btw, I have the Sandisk Extreme pro which can transfer @ 90 mb/sec, I hope this is just a software limitation & not hardware, as my older LG G7+ phone could reach 40 mb/sec with ease.
I doubt the V30 rated Sandisk Extreme card is the issue. Format the card in the phone if you already haven't.
Depending on what it's writing speeds may drop well below 90 mb/sec but on large contagious files it should be doing around [email protected] or higher depending on the interface*.
Try a test from internal memory to the card or vice versa. Maybe be a PC driver issue; check Event Viewer for error messages.
It's possible it's defective but very unlikely. Problems mounting/accessing a card can indicate a defect as well.
*not sure what your bandwidth limits are for that device.
blackhawk said:
I doubt the V30 rated Sandisk Extreme card is the issue. Format the card in the phone if you already haven't.
Depending on what it's writing speeds may drop well below 90 mb/sec but on large contagious files it should be doing around [email protected] or higher depending on the interface*.
Try a test from internal memory to the card or vice versa. Maybe be a PC driver issue; check Event Viewer for error messages.
It's possible it's defective but very unlikely. Problems mounting/accessing a card can indicate a defect as well.
*not sure what your bandwidth limits are for that device.
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I did some research and found out that this issue persists on most Sony Xperia phones. Sony has released several firmware but hasn't fixed this one. I hope it's not a hardware limitation on these phones or the money I spent on a very expensive card would go down the drain due to not being able to take full advantage of it.
sachb_htc said:
I did some research and found out that this issue persists on most Sony Xperia phones. Sony has released several firmware but hasn't fixed this one. I hope it's not a hardware limitation on these phones or the money I spent on a very expensive card would go down the drain due to not being able to take full advantage of it.
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Is internal memory to the SD card that slow?
What about read time vice versa?
Yeah I be irritated...
I think its HW issue. It seems to me, tah internal SD reader is connected via USB2 interface, which corresponds to limit above and test. External USB3 reader is much faster on this phone.