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Home Slowness & App Organization

So I've rooted and SD apped my G1, and have been loving every bit of it. I do have one question though about speed.
This is not really related to rooting or SD apping my phone it's more along the lines of the speed of "Home"
I often find that the more apps i move to my home screen (or your fav home app 'open home' 'ahome' etc), that going to the home app takes a long time to load.
When I only have a few icons then it's faster generally speaking. But I have about 7 folders with maybe 7-10 apps in them on avg, to keep my screen organized, but it seems that I will never get around how slow it is due to the amount of icons i have in the folders on the screen.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the home screen any faster while keeping my apps organized?
I was thinking along the lines of maybe a Labeling App that lets you categorize your apps...sort of like how the Market lets you search for them. Maybe this way...a reference to a label could at runtime go and pull up the apps you've labeled as such...as opposed to having physical app links in a physical folder...thus forcing the home screen to load all of your organized apps (that you're not even using at the moment)...slowing it down.
Tips & tricks welcome!

swapit !!
http://www.cyrket.com/package/lv.n3o.swapper

dixxa said:
swapit !!
http://www.cyrket.com/package/lv.n3o.swapper
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Could you provide some kind of testimony about this app?
Is there any side effect of that mod what are the concret and noticable benefits?
I have the default 2GB scandisk card in my phone, is it fast enough to do SWAP? I have no clue how crappy or neat is that card in terms of speed.
Thanks

friggin sweet! worx awesome!

man this app wont destroy your card
it'll create a file named swap on you /system/sd/
and boost you little phone it's free feel free to test
if you don"t like it disable it and restart your phone .
that's all !

nice site thanks

It WILL shorten your SD Card's lifetime significantly!
There is a limited number of reads/writes before the SD card begins to corrupt.

well well well
http://communities.sandisk.com/sandisk/board/message?board.id=memorycards&thread.id=614
directly from sandisk's forum ... so please stop talking nonsense ...

dixxa said:
well well well
http://communities.sandisk.com/sandisk/board/message?board.id=memorycards&thread.id=614
directly from sandisk's forum ... so please stop talking nonsense ...
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That might be for normal usage.
Using the disk as a swap drive IS NOT NORMAL USAGE!
And it still doesn't change the fact that there's a limit to how many times you can read and write to a flash memory chip.
I read an article about a TV company who were trying out SSDs (based on flash memory, the same tech) as a fast way of providing on-demand TV over the internet.
The drives lasted about 3 days... and that's professional drives..
I'm not saying you will burn out your card in 3 days... but you will decrease it's lifespan from maybe 2 years to 1 year or maybe 6 months.

Does it really matter micro sd cards are so cheap I got an 8GB class 6 card off newegg for $15 w/ free shipping. Just make sure you back your crap up every so often. Which you should do anyways.

speoples20 said:
Does it really matter micro sd cards are so cheap I got an 8GB class 6 card off newegg for $15 w/ free shipping. Just make sure you back your crap up every so often. Which you should do anyways.
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Not really, except that - as you say - you should be aware of it, so that you're not suddenly left with data loss and a semi-bricked phone ;-)

Don't worry sandisk microSDHC have something like 10years life span and believe me you would change card before the swap "kill it".

After using Swapper for a few days i uninstalled it. So it's not really resolved my issue. it seems to lockup the whole phone when not in use for a few hours or so. nothing responds, and I have to pull the battery to get it to turn off. nice concept...and when it was working, it worked well. just not sure why it freezes the phone after phone inactivity.

128GB sd card for dock

Well just ordered this
Lexar Professional 400x 128 GB SDXC
from amazon for less than $140, seems like a good deal, hope it holds up to 1080p movies

I have the same SD card and playing 1080 mkvs on it with Dice and BS Player are no problem at all, love the massive storage space. Just one caveat though, I tried copying the entire card over to a windows 7 machine and the Infinity rebooted, so there's still and issue with large file transfers that I hope JB will take care of. In any case welcome to the max storage club

psych2l said:
I have the same SD card and playing 1080 mkvs on it with Dice and BS Player are no problem at all, love the massive storage space. Just one caveat though, I tried copying the entire card over to a windows 7 machine and the Infinity rebooted, so there's still and issue with large file transfers that I hope JB will take care of. In any case welcome to the max storage club
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Awesome, that is what I wanted to hear
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Strange thing, put it into the dock and nothing
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cragains said:
Strange thing, put it into the dock and nothing
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Have you used a card in the dock before? The ribbon cable wasn't completely connected in mine.

All new tablet and dock, I had to insert in a few times, but nothing.
So I power down, and let it fully charge.
Powered on with dock, tried it again.
Wham....WORKS!!!!!
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Glad you got it all sorted out, I already have mine half filled with various anime lol

psych2l said:
Glad you got it all sorted out, I already have mine half filled with various anime lol
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Really, I am getting there. Just finished Baccano, and Ergo Proxy, now I'm watching Ghost in the machine. What do you watch?
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Love the opening to Baccano, it's so god damn catchy lol. Right now I'm getting through the massive first season of Sket Dance, AKB0048, and Moyashimon. As you can tell I have a pretty eclectic taste lol. I sprung for the crunchyroll premium account too and it's nice, but the app sadly doesn't output 1080p streams yet although they keep saying it's in the works. Thankfully I can still access the Hi-def streams through flash

Does it work with the device it self or through the dock ?
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Mr.Droid said:
Does it work with the device it self or through the dock ?
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Well the tablet doesn't have an SD card slot, only microSD. However,
It works perfect with the dock
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psych2l said:
I have the same SD card and playing 1080 mkvs on it with Dice and BS Player are no problem at all, love the massive storage space. Just one caveat though, I tried copying the entire card over to a windows 7 machine and the Infinity rebooted, so there's still and issue with large file transfers that I hope JB will take care of. In any case welcome to the max storage club
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Was copying from 32GB samsung micro to the Lexar 128GB on the Transformer Infinity (stock) and it rebooted after transferring about 4GB of 15GB of data. Might have something to do with the fact that the Lexar comes formatted exFat and not NTFS. Could be a tablet I/O issue.
I dont have my 2TB portable HHD to test the transferring abilities of the Lexar using a Windows 7 laptop system, but It will be the next thing I test the Lexar with.
(Formatted the Lexar NTFS)
(Will copy a 8-15GB 1080p movie, and see if the Infinity can handle it)

I thought ExFat let you work past the 4GB Total memory card size limitation, but not the >4GB "single file" size limitation, if im right you will only be able to copy a bigger than 4GB file onto an NTFS format disk.

No, exFAT allows file sizes MUCH larger than 4 GB. Theoretically 16 EiB, in practice "only" about 128 PiB since the current implementation only uses a 32 bit FAT which limits the maximum volume size to ~128 PiB.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT#cite_note-NB_Size_File-0
People have had issues with copying large files to the internal storage as well, so it's most likely a (file system) driver issue. Could be memory leakage or just hardcoded file size limits (wouldn't surprise me...) causing a buffer overflow. An unhandled fault at driver level = reboot/lock up (usually).

I currently have 1 Samsung 32 MicroSD in the tablet and another via an SD-adapter in the dock, both in exFAT so I could use +4gig files.
My Infinity reboots when transferring to either card via Win7 (big files). However, transferring to the internal storage gives no problems (albeit slow). Moving files from internal to either of the cards via Win7 makes it reboot too. So I filled both cards directly instead of leaving them in the Infinity.
I have used exFAT as it was stated here somewhere NTFS could give problems.. Well, exFAT isn't working great, either.. I'm going to try and see what happens in NTFS but I guess it will be the same story..
Anyway, I think it's a firmware/software issue, hopefully Asus fixes it (or JB)

TimoLimo said:
I currently have 1 Samsung 32 MicroSD in the tablet and another via an SD-adapter in the dock, both in exFAT so I could use +4gig files.
My Infinity reboots when transferring to either card via Win7 (big files). However, transferring to the internal storage gives no problems (albeit slow). Moving files from internal to either of the cards via Win7 makes it reboot too. So I filled both cards directly instead of leaving them in the Infinity.
I have used exFAT as it was stated here somewhere NTFS could give problems.. Well, exFAT isn't working great, either.. I'm going to try and see what happens in NTFS but I guess it will be the same story..
Anyway, I think it's a firmware/software issue, hopefully Asus fixes it (or JB)
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I believe I have my 32GB micro, and 128GB SD cards formatted as NTFS and haven't had this problem since then. Of coarse I flashed a custom ROM to the infinity, which has helped maximize its potential.
It boggles my mind that I paid $650 for a tablet+dock that has so many quirks, and issues. Like light bleed from the side, minimal as it may be.
Although, I was playing dead trigger, and shadowgun last night using a micro HDMI cable hooked up to my 1080p HP monitor, and a USB 360 controller, and I was AMAZED at the quality and frame rate of the tablet...
I'm going to do some tests, with my new laptop and see if I get that random reboot during file transfer (Using a 24GB 1080p movie)

I have ordered also the SD Card... SO mutch cheaper then in Netherlands
Amazon 154 euro. Local store prices between 300 a 350euro.
I have format a other SD card with HFS+ filesystem. Installed Paragon NTF/HFS+ from Google Play.
Mount and go with the flow..
You can copy files lager then 4GB on a HFS+ formatted sd card

160bpm said:
I have ordered also the SD Card... SO mutch cheaper then in Netherlands
Amazon 154 euro. Local store prices between 300 a 350euro.
I have format a other SD card with HFS+ filesystem. Installed Paragon NTF/HFS+ from Google Play.
Mount and go with the flow..
You can copy files lager then 4GB on a HFS+ formatted sd card
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I use ntfs with BSPlayer and never have anymore issues playing movies, have the micro HDMI hooked into my 1080p monitor...everything is flawless...
Never heard of HFS+..
Any benifits to this file system over ntfs?
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HFS+ is the default file system used in OS X, you'd need drivers to get it to work under Windows. Stick with NTFS (or exFAT) if you're primarily a Windows user

Einride said:
HFS+ is the default file system used in OS X, you'd need drivers to get it to work under Windows. Stick with NTFS (or exFAT) if you're primarily a Windows user
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Ah...that I am, and will do thanks
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UPDATED Review. CHEAP portable wireless storage!

Found this in my search for portable storage. RavPower WiFi Disk/SDCard Reader. Has good reviews on Amazon and Newegg (note 1 of the 2 reviews is for the wrong product on Newegg). Has a 3000mah battery which can be used for self power or to charge you phone. Has an SDCard slot and USB slot which is compatible with both Thumb Drives and External Hard Drives (NOTE: Reviews state it will work with SOME HD's, ones that require lower power). Thing is only $60!!! I plan to get one. Check it out!
Amazon
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Newegg
Only thing I don't see in the specs is max size SD. Trying to research now.
UPDATE! RavPower emailed me back about capacity. This reader can handle up to a 128Gb SDCard.
UPDATE - REVIEW This is preliminary just to get something out there. Will update as I test more.
Size & Weight: The size of device is about the same as the Nexus, slightly wider yet slightly shorter and slightly thicker. I do not find it too big at all but of course I purchased this for travel and not every day use. If your looking for something tiny to carry in your pocket then you might want to look at the PQI as mentioned below. The weight is very light, lighter than the phone.
Design: The box itself has a pleasing design, will finished corners, Icons, LEDs, everything is very nice considering the much lower price than anything else on the market. Build seems solid. It is all plastic, but still solid.
Setup: It is very easy to setup. Simply press the power button and it will power up. This part does take a little time. You have to wait for both RW and WiFi LED's to go solid Blue before you can connect to the device. To connect to the device you need the Application available in the Play Store locate here. It is called MobileFun (Note: search for MobileFun as one work, not 2. If you search as 2 words you won't fine it in the store). Once you have the app, you simply connect to the device via WiFi, launch the app and your off. Note: Setting up WiFi Bridge is under Settings.
USB Interface: This seems to work flawlessly. I tested it using a Micro SDCard Adapter (with a Sandisk 64Gb Class 10 UHS-1 card), a 32GB USB 3.0 Jump Drive and my USB 3.0 external Hard Drive (Orico case with WD Black 500GB drive). All 3 connect and I am able to view/access files on the drives. If you have a External Hard Drive that requires a 2nd power source it will not work for you. PLEASE NOTE: With my SDCard Reader if I had it plugged in with the device off it would erase the card. This did not happen with my Jump Drive or Hard Drive. When you plug into the USB port with the device off it provides a 5V output for charging external device. My guess is this caused my SDCard to be wiped. So a word of caution, unplug your data drive BEFORE you power it off.
SDCard Interface: I ran into issues with one of my SDCards. My Sandisk 64Gb Micro SDCard would lose formatting every time I used it in this port. NOTE: It is a standard SD slot, an adapter is required for Micro SD. I cannot figure out what is causing this. It does not happen with any of my other SD Cards. Tested with A-Data 16GB Class 6, Partriot 32Gb Class 6, Samsung 8Gb Class 2 and Kingston 8Gb Class 4. All 4 of those cards function perfectly. All of my cards are Micro SD. I apologize, I do not own a standard SD Card to test with that.
Read/Write Speeds: Still testing this, will update once finished.
Movie Performance: All of my movies are H.264 with Variable Bit Rates. Most are .mkv but some are .avi or .mp4. I test all 3 packages in both 720P and 1080P. I used VLC Player (with Hardware Acceleration off). I streamed from the USB port only (as I do not have an SDCard) but I did stream from 3 different source, Hard Drive, Jump Drive and Micro SD Card reader. I had zero issues streaming movies. All played smoothly with no hick ups. NOTE: I am running CM10.1 with Faux Kernel. When setting up Faux clock for battery life playing these movies would not work. Audio would not line up and it would be choppy/pixelated. Setting Faux Clock to performance settings everything was smooth.
WiFi Bridge: This was unfortunately a little bit of a let down, at least on the performance side. WiFi Bridge does seem to work perfectly fine. I never had an issue connecting the device to my home WiFi nor using the internet through the device. The let down part is in performance. Speed test while directly connected to my Router are 20+Mbps consistently. Speeds while bridged through the RavPower varied from 2.5Mbps-6.5Mbps. It severely hampered speeds. Good news is that it still worked fine for most tasks, bad news is if you want to download a large file while streaming music it will slow your speeds.
Battery: I was able to stream 2 complete movies (1 at 1.5 hours long and 1 at 2 hours long). After I streamed 2 movies and my phone was almost dead there was enough juice left in the device to charge my phone up an additional 30%. The purpose of this test was to simulate travel, say on a plane. I could watch 2 movies and give my phone a little extra battery boost for when landing.
I apologize, I did not test music steaming, I would imagine it would use less power. But if it did use the same power you could stream music for 4 hours and charge your phone a little afterwards. Or, you could most likely stream for 5+ hours if you didn't need to charge your phone.
Recharge time from completely dead is unknown yet. I just killed it completely this morning, it is charging now. Will update this once complete.
File Transfer: This portion is still under testing. Will update.
Recommendation: YES. Note: If you already have an external hard drive (that does not need a second power source), jump drive or SD Card for data storage and just need something to access them I highly recommend this device. If you do not you may want to look into a wireless Hard Drive (at a much higher cost) as you can carry much more space with you. I.E. Seagate GoFlex with 500Gb or 1Tb drive. But if you don't need that much space you can get this device plus a 64Gb SDCard for $100 total, or $160 total with a 128GB SDCard/Jump Drive.
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Re: CHEAP portable wireless storage!
Quite big. Pqi about same price.
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Or you could go with something like this;Amazon Link
Which is basically the same thing you are looking at, except this one has an Android App...
It not "portable" like the one you listed, well technically it is, you can take it wherever, its certainly small enough and has WiFi & Ethernet Port.
Or you can just leave it at home and access info from wherever you are...
Or if you want to learn something, you can replace the HORRIBLE HORRIBLE (imo) stock firmware, with something like alARM. Then you can do more with it... like run a media server.

Kazliux said:
Quite big. Pqi about same price.
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RavPower is smaller, but thicker, than the N4, not too big IMO. Where did you find PQI for $60? I can't find it for less than $100 anywhere.

UberSlackr said:
Or you could go with something like this;Amazon Link
Which is basically the same thing you are looking at, except this one has an Android App...
It not "portable" like the one you listed, well technically it is, you can take it wherever, its certainly small enough and has WiFi & Ethernet Port.
Or you can just leave it at home and access info from wherever you are...
Or if you want to learn something, you can replace the HORRIBLE HORRIBLE (imo) stock firmware, with something like alARM. Then you can do more with it... like run a media server.
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Interesting. That would work for me but I'm curious how it would differ from just using iDrive or Dropbox? You would have to use the cellular data to access it away from home. So portable is the difference I guess. I would prefer portable, then it can be used on a plane or while traveling outside of good data coverage.
It does have an Android app, called MobileFun in the play store. Though I think that app is just a general wireless drive app, it's the one you use with it to transfer or stream files.

setzer715 said:
Interesting. That would work for me but I'm curious how it would differ from just using iDrive or Dropbox? You would have to use the cellular data to access it away from home. So portable is the difference I guess. I would prefer portable, then it can be used on a plane or while traveling outside of good data coverage.
It does have an Android app, called MobileFun in the play store. Though I think that app is just a general wireless drive app, it's the one you use with it to transfer or stream files.
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It "differs" from services like DropBox, because the Data (your files) are stored on whatever hard drives/flash drives you have plugged into it.
So nothing is in the "Cloud" per-say - its all on a local drive...
It has 3 USB Ports, 2 being USB 3.0, and a SATA port. So you can add Terabytes of storage, without having to pay monthly for it.
You would use Cellular data, or WiFi while away from home... So yeah "Portable" being the difference, since it would require data from some source while the data is at home. You would not have access where data service or wifi is not available as you mentioned (which is not something I thought of in my first post) ... maybe cause I'm never with out data service, lol. There is a Seagate GoFlex Wireless Drive attached to the cloudbox - which my son sometimes unplugs and takes with him when we go places, but those are a little costly...
My Son has one in his room here (so he's not accessing the server in my basement), which I installed alARM (Arch Linux ARM) on to it. It runs a full DLNA media server, and several share folders so he can watch/save movies/files from it. He was always taking my movies (DVDs) to his house, and they would come back scratched. Now I just add them to the hard-drives and he can just watch em from the media server.. It allows him to access it from his PS3, Laptop and Nexus 7. I like this set up, because it allows one central location to store the data, yet gives both him and I access to it (and whomever else - no user connection restriction)

What your saying makes sense for what you have setup at home. I'm looking for something that I can play movies from on long drives. Long drives with spotty coverage and only EDGE when you get coverage. My wife and I like to drive places a few times a year. Since I already own a couple 64gb jump drives and 64gb MicroSD currently in my S3 this thing just makes sense.
Have you had any issues with the Go Flex? I was eyeballing that one but the price drove me away. I really think I just need something that will utilize the storage I already have.

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Was wondering would it play video files like 10 to 15 gig ?
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I'm interested in this. Can you connect to the drive and use cellular data at the same time?

aichemist said:
Was wondering would it play video files like 10 to 15 gig ?
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As long as the storage device you use can hold that large of a file. I don't see why not. This device does not have it's own internal storage. It is a wireless adapter for USB or SDCard storage. So if you get a 128GB SDCard, format to NTFS and put a 20 gig video on it it should stream fine. At least I would think.

psxindo said:
I'm interested in this. Can you connect to the drive and use cellular data at the same time?
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No, Once you phone connects to wifi cellular data is shut off. This device can connect to another wifi source and act as a Access Point for you though. So, if your at say a coffee shop you can connect the RavPower to their wifi and then your phone to the RavPower you'll have data and file access to your SDCard.

setzer715 said:
No, Once you phone connects to wifi cellular data is shut off. This device can connect to another wifi source and act as a Access Point for you though. So, if your at say a coffee shop you can connect the RavPower to their wifi and then your phone to the RavPower you'll have data and file access to your SDCard.
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do you have the RAVPower to test the speed of the internet bridge? i tried another wifi HD, the patriot guantlet, and the speed of the internet was limited to about 2-3Mbps. Is there an android app for this or just a router ip that you can configure?

neotekz said:
do you have the RAVPower to test the speed of the internet bridge? i tried another wifi HD, the patriot guantlet, and the speed of the internet was limited to about 2-3Mbps. Is there an android app for this or just a router ip that you can configure?
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I don't have it yet, is on order. Once I get it I'll post WiFi bridge results and update this post to am actual review.

Bump, for updated Review.

FYI - It is on sale at Newegg.com for $40 from a third party. I think a number of similar units will come on the market shortly. However, I picked up one of these.
PS If you need warranty service, newegg is insisting on having the original box.
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PPS I posted the fyi on a couple of threads. No connection with company. Just a good price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1HD0HM8076

My temporary solution for this problem is my old ZTE blade with 32gb SD card, WiFi tethered and running FTP server. Working great so far.

Having a weeeeird SD card issue.

Alright so I recently bought a 32gb sd card so I could put the rest of my music on my phone. And I transfered all my music on to it. Put it in my phone. And all of the sudden half of it is deleted? So I thought I was crazy and put it back in my laptop and sure enough half of it wasn't there. So I transferred the music again by selecting all the music instead of just moving the folder.. Waited till it was done. Checked to make sure it was all there and put it back in my phone.. Sure enough half of it has been deleted again. I'm on Embryo 6.5, I use player pro as my music player, and the card is a SanDisk 32gb.
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Sounds like you're either trying to move too much at one time, or you have a bad card. The ROM is really irrelevant as you have been putting the SD directly into the computer.
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I've moved a lot more to different storage devices and never had a problem. Like I said, it disappears when I put the card into the phone. I did it again and threw it in my tablet this time, and it all showed. It's definitely a phone issue. The card is fine.
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Sounds like it's not rebuilding the database. Are you trying to read it with the player or with a file explorer?

hechoen said:
Sounds like it's not rebuilding the database. Are you trying to read it with the player or with a file explorer?
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Both. The music files are gone. It shows them gone when I put it back into my laptop also. As soon as the card goes in the phone, it deletes them for some reason.
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Bad SD card..

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Bad SD card..
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Yep, sounds that way. There is a huge problem with counterfeit and sub-quality SD and Micro SD cards these days. It is so huge of a problem that many of the cards that are sold from Amazon, E-bay, and Brick-and-mortar stores are fakes. Its so hard to buy a legit SD card these days because the fake or altered cards are actually in OEM packaging or at least it looks very similar to OEM packaging. Many times defective cards or lower capacity / lower class cards are being physically altered to appear like more expensive cards. It seems to mostly be a problem with the class 10 cards. Sometimes people don't even know they are getting screwed because the cards usually work for the purpose that they use them for, but if checked (and some never do) the actually specs of the card fall way short. Many of these cards fail quickly as well. To add to the problem, certain phones "like" certain cards better than others. So one card may work well, and another card (same manufacturer, class, and capacity) doesn't work well at all. It's a crap shoot even if the card is good quality and legit. So, sometimes you just have to go through a few before you can get one that works well or just get lucky with buying one card that happens to work well. I purchased 2 cards that were counterfeit before I learned of the problem. Both were supposed to be 32 GB class 10 San disk cards and were marked as such. One was from Amazon and one was from Radio shack. I noticed a problem with both because while I was taking video in very fine mode, the phone would lock up when recording to SD card. Both fine and normal video modes worked and very fine video mode worked with no problem when saved to internal or when saved to another SD card I have (16 GB class 10 PNY). The problem was that both of the San disk cards were recording data at a rate that was too slow for very fine video and certainly way slower than a class 10 card. So, they were fake or altered to appear to be a better class card than they were. Just check Amazon reviews for most 32 GB class 10 cards (manufacturer doesn't matter) and you will see several benchmark reviews that show how bad these cards can be. Good luck, the best advice I can give is never trust an SD card with important info and ALWAYS back all data up...TWICE!

That's way when it comes to these things I always buy after I make sure I can return a defective item..

A bad sd card doesn't explain why it works fine in my tablet. Then music deletes when I throw it in my phone.
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It was definitely Embryo. I switched to Rogers latest CM fix and everything is working fine now. All music is there, nothing is deleted randomly.
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Question SD card slot

So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?

I sincerely doubt it'll come back, their most direct competitor (Apple) hasn't supported secondary storage ever so the general public doesn't seem to care.
I have an S21+ and I made sure to get one with 256 GB storage - I reviewed how much local storage I used on my S*+ SD card and "only" had about 100GB on a device with only 64GB internal storage. So, I figure 256 should be okay long term.
The only class of data I haven't pulled across from my SD card was the local photo albums, but they were only a few GB. I may yet refresh that but the days of "here look at my pics" and not having enough data network or wifi for Google Photos to function well are long behind me.
Now, the offline mapping data and offline music storage - that's the bulk of my data, and the ~ 100 GB usage leaves plenty of space left for apps and OS updates and such, for me.
If your uses include numerous large apps (e.g. games) and much more content then you'd need the 512GB variant to be safe, IMO.

Youdoofus said:
So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?
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I almost didn't buy my S21+ 5G because of no SD card slot.
My S9+ had the SD card slot and I miss it.

Screw samsung. No slot, no sale.
Between that and Android 11/12 and their Apple lust, the next release looks like it will be more dog meat. I'll get a used Note 10+ 512gb running on Pie, remain happy and save money.
Ain't nothing to me...
The Note 20 U is the other option but it's price for now is too high. If it doesn't have a huge square cornered display, I don't want to look at it.
The round corner displays looked horrible. Samsung will probably screw up there too.

I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.

Hurricane Andrew said:
I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.
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You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.

Try AnyBackup, you can transfer your data to micro SD card easily, if you are a fan of Micro SD card.
you can google it for details.

SD card slots are like the optical drives in PC, IMHO. You're scared that you might need it one day, but they're obsolete already. You can easily (and better) replace them with USB-C flash drives. I've been without an optical drive on my pc for 10 years and without SD card on my phones for 3+ years (Starting with Huawei P20 Pro and now GS21+) and never have a problem. Won't go back to SD cards either as well.
I never use SD cards as data storage mainly because they're slow. Try recording a 4K video on SD card and you'll know what I mean. Unless you've got a UHS II or above class SD card, you'll have problems.
Storage space-wise, My P20 Pro is 128GB and now my GS21+ is 256 GB and I never have problem with space. If you took a lot of videos or photos, just backup your vids or photos to a USB-C flash drive and delete it from your phone periodically.

blackhawk said:
You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.
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I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.

spiderx_mm said:
I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.
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All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...

blackhawk said:
All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Jason_Nguyen111 said:
Give Anybackup a try. It can really help you with it. 1000 images and video backup to micro SD or USB for about 30 minutes (tested)
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blackhawk said:
All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.

spiderx_mm said:
Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.
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Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.

blackhawk said:
Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.
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You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.

spiderx_mm said:
You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.
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No SD card slot was a bad bet on Samsung's part. High end phones are a luxury now... they better be loaded with more than bloatware. It is their customers that define them not the other way around. Customer loyalty is a gift best not abused.
Word on the street is there will more flagship phones with SD card slots in 2022.
Either way I'm good for another 5 years.
Right it's Android that's the bottleneck... and it's in a high G flat spin. 11 is a disaster.
Q is as high as I'll go but Pie is preferable.
In five years Android like Apple may not matter to me

I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!

varcor said:
I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.

spiderx_mm said:
that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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So... you really do need the 2 SD card slots
Cloud stuff can puke all over you at any given moment. At least it take a near EMI pulse to kill the phone otherwise even with no internet you still got some fun in your pocket.

spiderx_mm said:
that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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It's not a question of how many movies I can watch, it's having the ability to watch anything I chose. Same with music however audio files are nowhere near the size as movies which are typically 1.5 to 3GB's. Your solution isn't practical for ME as many times my travel is on long haul flights, 15 hours or more where accessing the internet is costly or in some instances unavailable. So this solution is the most practical option. NAS may be a more secure cloud platform but it's still not beyond the reach of expert hackers if they ever chose to target it. Beyond that lots of users still utilize and appreciate MicroSD Storage on phones, laptops and PC's and many feel Samsung and other manufacturers dropped the feature too soon without having a more practical solution in place. Samsung and others main goal was increasing profitability, which explains why they cut back on internal storage on S21 and S21 Plus devices. To put it in prospective up until the S21 you could have your total memory up to 2TB's but now most are limited to 256GB's and a lower share at 512GB's. That's a huge difference one model later. Then on dual-sim card trays Samsung modified the template so it's now stacked to save internal space. They could have easily made one side of the tray template a bit larger to accommodate a MicroSD. So the issue isn't with saving hardware space, it's no doubt $$$. To pay around $1,400.00 USD for a massive device without a tiny MicroSD is a sin!