[Q] Sensation GSM/HSDPA chip removable? - HTC Sensation

hi everyone, i have a sensation xe that i think came from oversea's. and a broken sensation from North america
my xe connects only via edge/2g. and would love it if it was up with the times on 3g/hspa/4g. i dont think there is a way to modify the bands by upgrading the baseband or radio version. but is the chip on the board removable at all? ( im assuming the factory makes a standard board, that can then be processed for where in the world its intended to be used)
could i swap the working cell chipset from the N.A version to my XE?
thanks in advance!

Joshmartini said:
hi everyone, i have a sensation xe that i think came from oversea's. and a broken sensation from North america
my xe connects only via edge/2g. and would love it if it was up with the times on 3g/hspa/4g. i dont think there is a way to modify the bands by upgrading the baseband or radio version. but is the chip on the board removable at all? ( im assuming the factory makes a standard board, that can then be processed for where in the world its intended to be used)
could i swap the working cell chipset from the N.A version to my XE?
thanks in advance!
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Hi Josh,
I've a very similar problem ... I would like to change the frequencies of my XE to get 3G coverage.
I think you can do it flashing a modem version with the 850/1900 support ... we share the same Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon chip to other HTC terminals that use those frequencies to connect 3G, so it should be possible , but I don't know how to do it
I'm just new to this and some ppl say that would be possible, but no one has tried before ....
more info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867&highlight=z710a&page=119
Regards.

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Meblin said:
Hi Josh,
I've a very similar problem ... I would like to change the frequencies of my XE to get 3G coverage.
I think you can do it flashing a modem version with the 850/1900 support ... we share the same Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon chip to other HTC terminals that use those frequencies to connect 3G, so it should be possible , but I don't know how to do it
I'm just new to this and some ppl say that would be possible, but no one has tried before ....
more info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867&highlight=z710a&page=119
Regards.
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thanks for the link, i read a few pages and didnt find anyone successfully completing the idea, i think it would be more worthwhile to just move along to another phone
appreciate the help though!

Joshmartini said:
hi everyone, i have a sensation xe that i think came from oversea's. and a broken sensation from North america
my xe connects only via edge/2g. and would love it if it was up with the times on 3g/hspa/4g. i dont think there is a way to modify the bands by upgrading the baseband or radio version. but is the chip on the board removable at all? ( im assuming the factory makes a standard board, that can then be processed for where in the world its intended to be used)
could i swap the working cell chipset from the N.A version to my XE?
thanks in advance!
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as far i knew...hspa is support is hardware level support ...and present in our SOC than may be we can use it...may be htc locked it by some way or disable that feature for gsm sensations :/ or sensation's SOC's are fabed without that part...

Jawwad.John said:
as far i knew...hspa is support is hardware level support ...and present in our SOC than may be we can use it...may be htc locked it by some way or disable that feature for gsm sensations :/ or sensation's SOC's are fabed without that part...
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There´s no way to change the GSM/HSDPA chip , to work with other bands...
Because it´s no a chip only, its an array of different components to get the specific band´s
So if you think that the motherboard of an American version its exactly the same of an European version , you´re wrong.
There are differences between them.
So , the best way to get your 3G network , its buying a phone that has the correct 3G bands.
I was working for about 8 years in a manufacture center of an important phone brand.

charliert said:
There´s no way to change the GSM/HSDPA chip , to work with other bands...
Because it´s no a chip only, its an array of different components to get the specific band´s
So if you think that the motherboard of an American version its exactly the same of an European version , you´re wrong.
There are differences between them.
So , the best way to get your 3G network , its buying a phone that has the correct 3G bands.
I was working for about 8 years in a manufacture center of an important phone brand.
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well all settled...u have to buy a 3g phone..

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[Q] Is there ANY WAY to make Inspire 4G to work in European 3G/HSDPA?

Yes, I mean ANY WAY, to make this great phone to work on European 3G/HSDPA ..I'm not in Europe, but as you know, most Southeast Asian countries are using European Bands.
FYI, Desire HD is priced way higher than Inspire 4G in the local used market, so this is the source of my, well.. AARRRGGHHH-ness
Simply put no.
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Still no solution to this? I live in Norway and I'm only able to get 2g and I'm not able to send MMS, which is a pain in the ass.
My phone is rooted with both CM7 and the Sensation mod... Is there really nothing I can do?
Problem is different radios. So, answer is no.
1ChesterD said:
Problem is different radios. So, answer is no.
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That sounds so odd to me tough... Why can't it just be hacked to fit the same frequency as the native radio signal?
Because its a hardware thing. It just doesn't have anything thing to pick up those 3g signals. So :f the hardware is not their no software can change it.
marsdta said:
Because its a hardware thing. It just doesn't have anything thing to pick up those 3g signals. So :f the hardware is not their no software can change it.
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Ok, well that sucks....
Thanks for the reply bro
marsdta said:
Because its a hardware thing. It just doesn't have anything thing to pick up those 3g signals. So :f the hardware is not their no software can change it.
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And that's why the Inspire is much cheaper than the DHD in the used market in Europe/SE Asia.
A search would have answered this. Thread closed

Sensation, XE or 4G?

hey guys how do i know which senstation I have? My friend brought this phone from france, I live in cambodia and we do not have 4G service. Anyways I was researching the back cover to locate the GPS antenna and I notice that I only have the 1 antenna (contact below the camera lens) I guess I dont have the diversity antenna. does this mean I have the XE? and how do I know if mine is the 4G version. Not sure if a serial number or software number would help, I'm currently rooted and running the Supersensation ROM. Thanks.
From the homescreen select "Settings" and then scroll down to the very end of the list where you find the phone info tap. Press it and under phone model it will provide you with the info which model you have.
swift2fly said:
hey guys how do i know which senstation I have? My friend brought this phone from france, I live in cambodia and we do not have 4G service. Anyways I was researching the back cover to locate the GPS antenna and I notice that I only have the 1 antenna (contact below the camera lens) I guess I dont have the diversity antenna. does this mean I have the XE? and how do I know if mine is the 4G version. Not sure if a serial number or software number would help, I'm currently rooted and running the Supersensation ROM. Thanks.
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Settings About Phone Model number ? Likely to be Z710e (euro Sensation if bought in France).
Also get "CID getter" from the Market, run it 3/4 of the way down the scrolled screen you'll see [ro.mid]: [PG5813000] (in my case)
EDIT: Just spotted it also has: [ro.product.model]: [HTC Sensation Z710e] (in much case)
You can also get the cid/mid info from adb, do a search about that.
3G and 4G are the same just a branding exercise so ignore that. I think the american T-Mobile 4G has an additional GPS antenna but not certain.
The important thing is the 3G frequency 850MHz (US AT&T z710a) or 900MHz (Euro and US T-Mobile z710e) that'll be listed on the box if you have it.
Check the MID that'll along with the Model e.g. Z710e will precisely define the phone.
XE and Standard have the same basic hardware so no difference really, same CPU etc. ROMs for one work on the other.
For reference the CID is the Carrier ID.

[Q] HTC ONE SV (k2_u) without LTE?

Hi guys
I recently bought a generic unbranded HTC ONE SV from a German website, as I was looking for an LTE-enabled phone that didn't have a screen big as a flatscreen TV.
I have had the phone now for a couple of weeks and I am overall happy with it. The only problem is that it does not seem to get any LTE action. My operator (Tele2 Sweden) assures me my sim card is enabled for 4G and I live in the center of a city with excellent 4G coverage. Yet, my phone shows an H at best (haven't actually ever seen even an H+).
Digging around this and other forums, I found a few indications that my ONE SV version K2_U (model id PL8013000) might actually not have support for LTE after all.
It seems also all ROM updates currently available are for the K2_UL model, including the one for JB (I have tried to flash these to my device after unlocking/rooting/s-offing it, but never actually managed to succeed with it, while I can flash and reflash the stock ROM for the k2_u version)
TBH I am quite confused: all HTC websites and reviews refer to the ONE SV as an LTE enabled phone, and I cannot find any official reference to the fact that there might be a version of this phone without LTE... So I wonder if maybe I am doing something wrong, or if maybe there is a software lock that has disabled LTE on my phone and that I can fix.
Or have I simply been screwed?
With the Easter holidays I'll have to wait until Tuesday to be able to call HTC... so if in the meantime anybody has any idea I would really appreciate it
There seems to be a lot of K2_U, non-LTE, in the US. You can have a look on the One SV root thread you'll find some.
In fact, in germany the LTE version is ONLY sold by operators (O2, Vodafone, Telekom).
All others come without LTE.
old.splatterhand said:
In fact, in germany the LTE version is ONLY sold by operators (O2, Vodafone, Telekom).
All others come without LTE.
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You'd think HTC would mention that on their website though... I am not upset about them selling a non-LTE version of the phone, I am outraged by the fact that they don't bother informing consumers that a phone advertised as LTE also happens to have a non-LTE version... I have also contacted them trough the htc.com website, but they did not bother to answer either.
If I had more time to waste on this I'd probably complain with the German consumer protection authorities, but TBH I have learned my lesson and this is the last HTC I buy
Thanks for your replies guys!
What does LTE means? I currently have old.splatterhands non-LTE stock rom installed for my HTC One SV. But for unknown reason, WiFi and radio connection are very weak.
LTE is fast, mobile internet.
old.splatterhand said:
LTE is fast, mobile internet.
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How do I know if I have a LTE k2u device?
esp7 said:
How do I know if I have a LTE k2u device?
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You have the stock back/battery cover on the phone?
When you have a phone with LTE, it should be written on the backcover (4G LTE, or something like that).
If there is only written beatsaudio, you have non-LTE.
Thanks - non-LTE however
esp7 said:
Thanks - non-LTE however
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Seems you are rooted, so you can try this: Saturn III

[Q] How can the 4G frequency be changed from 1700mhz to 1800 mhz

I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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So are you not getting any 4G LTE? If so I'm not sure why. I get 4G LTE almost everywhere I go.
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Nope not getting it at all
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masucu said:
I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
subhumanderelict said:
Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
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Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
UntouchableS said:
Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
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Thing is they are waiting for all the tools atm, I mean they don't yet have all the new kits for it, it should be arriving, and the engineer is actually a certified person being one that works in a certified HTC service, so once we get the entire .... kit, he will start working on it toghther with the software engineer and so on, hope that it will all sort out, i did get another phone in the mean time as well, but as i said i will be reporting back.
Thank
subhumanderelict said:
That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
masucu said:
Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
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Did you succeed?
MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you succeed?
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I would like to know also...
sandm4n said:
I would like to know also...
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So would I...I'm also from Brazil and brought the Verizon model because it is said to support the 2600 frequency. So frustrating

[Q] EU LTE Bands on a NA N5

Hi, I'm going to pick up an American Nexus 5 in 2 weeks which I'm going to use in Germany.
Unfortunately, I just found out that the American N5 does not support LTE Bands 3,7 and 20, which are necessary to get LTE in Europe.
Now my question is, is it possible to enable those needed bands with a custom radio or is this a hardware issue?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, I pretty much don't know anything about that stuff.
Thanks in advance for your help everyone.
Edit: I looked through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/lte-bands-nexus-5-t2502574/
but still couldnt find the answer.
hardware thing.
Zepius said:
hardware thing.
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This.
Although they technically have the same radio hardware, the radio unit is "factory programmed" differently. We don't know if it is a physical configuration or a firmware one as there is no documentation about this... Which means even if it is firmware, we wouldn't be able to change it. Essentially, physically changing the Radio hardware which is part of the SoC, which is part of the Motherboard is the only way.
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Alright thanks a lot. I guess I'll have to live without LTE for now.

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