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Yes, I mean ANY WAY, to make this great phone to work on European 3G/HSDPA ..I'm not in Europe, but as you know, most Southeast Asian countries are using European Bands.
FYI, Desire HD is priced way higher than Inspire 4G in the local used market, so this is the source of my, well.. AARRRGGHHH-ness
Simply put no.
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Still no solution to this? I live in Norway and I'm only able to get 2g and I'm not able to send MMS, which is a pain in the ass.
My phone is rooted with both CM7 and the Sensation mod... Is there really nothing I can do?
Problem is different radios. So, answer is no.
1ChesterD said:
Problem is different radios. So, answer is no.
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That sounds so odd to me tough... Why can't it just be hacked to fit the same frequency as the native radio signal?
Because its a hardware thing. It just doesn't have anything thing to pick up those 3g signals. So :f the hardware is not their no software can change it.
marsdta said:
Because its a hardware thing. It just doesn't have anything thing to pick up those 3g signals. So :f the hardware is not their no software can change it.
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Ok, well that sucks....
Thanks for the reply bro
marsdta said:
Because its a hardware thing. It just doesn't have anything thing to pick up those 3g signals. So :f the hardware is not their no software can change it.
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And that's why the Inspire is much cheaper than the DHD in the used market in Europe/SE Asia.
A search would have answered this. Thread closed
I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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So are you not getting any 4G LTE? If so I'm not sure why. I get 4G LTE almost everywhere I go.
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Nope not getting it at all
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masucu said:
I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
subhumanderelict said:
Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
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Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
UntouchableS said:
Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
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Thing is they are waiting for all the tools atm, I mean they don't yet have all the new kits for it, it should be arriving, and the engineer is actually a certified person being one that works in a certified HTC service, so once we get the entire .... kit, he will start working on it toghther with the software engineer and so on, hope that it will all sort out, i did get another phone in the mean time as well, but as i said i will be reporting back.
Thank
subhumanderelict said:
That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
masucu said:
Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
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Did you succeed?
MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you succeed?
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I would like to know also...
sandm4n said:
I would like to know also...
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So would I...I'm also from Brazil and brought the Verizon model because it is said to support the 2600 frequency. So frustrating
Planning to buy a new Mi4 from kijiji. Wondering whether it supports LTE bands in Canada? I;'m with telus
Short answer. No, not yet.
veladem said:
Short answer. No, not yet.
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OK.Thanks
Is this a software issue or the LTE version is a different hardware in the future? In other words, if i buy the mi4 now, will i be able to get LTE when its available?
Sadly it seems to be a hardware limitation. Xiaomi was smart when they made the phone and only have it what it needed unlike some companies that overlook the small things and pay in the end.
yes it does not. as no opomart and other sites are selling FDD-LTE version which 1700/2100 works perfect with ATT / T-Mobile in US
4G:FDD-LTE 1800(B3)/2100(B1)MHz
This may seem far fetched but I'll ask anyway. Is there a way to change the hardware frequencies set within the phone to match the connectivity frequencies that's in your area?
shakim24 said:
This may seem far fetched but I'll ask anyway. Is there a way to change the hardware frequencies set within the phone to match the connectivity frequencies that's in your area?
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In theory, the chip should support them. It would be a matter of writing the specific band values into your phones memory (NV). However, this pre-supposes that the phone could be modified on that level to begin with, which is doubtful.
You would need:
Unlock/root
Custom rom
Custom kernel
QPST (for editing)
QXDM (write enabling)
access to switch usb diagnostic mode
The majority of the work would be getting around MIUI and Qualcomm's restrictions they implement in their code. While not impossible, as you can see, the changes required aren't necessarily for the faint of heart. I suppose one upside would be the phone doesn't cost an arm and a leg, so if you wound up with a brick, you might have an easier time bouncing back from the loss.
kibmikey1 said:
In theory, the chip should support them. It would be a matter of writing the specific band values into your phones memory (NV). However, this pre-supposes that the phone could be modified on that level to begin with, which is doubtful.
You would need:
Unlock/root
Custom rom
Custom kernel
QPST (for editing)
QXDM (write enabling)
access to switch usb diagnostic mode
The majority of the work would be getting around MIUI and Qualcomm's restrictions they implement in their code. While not impossible, as you can see, the changes required aren't necessarily for the faint of heart. I suppose one upside would be the phone doesn't cost an arm and a leg, so if you wound up with a brick, you might have an easier time bouncing back from the loss.
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Thanks for the insight bro. You really broke down into detail what was needed to be done. Was scrolling around and found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2871269. Would like your opinion on it. It's for unlocking LTE as well.
I think they released the LTE-FDD version , seach for it!
already got one with LTE...its out already
Hi, I don't know how helpful this is for you but I have bought two from China for myself and my wife. Although I have not tried on the MIUI OS, I have flashed AOSP on to both phones and they both work at least on O2 and EE. I am receive 4G on my EE Mi4, however my wife does not have a 4G sim so can not confirm hers but she does receive 3G signals.
O2s 4G sim did not receive 4G signals on my Mi4 though (reason for me switching)
Hope this helps you
Only bands 1, 3, 41
Hi there.
I have just got a used-N5 on the Internet. It is a D821 (for Indonesia market I think).
Everything is fine except the LTE connection. (2G and 3G connection is normal)
The LTE problem is:
The searching speed is slow.
Even if LTE is connected, the response time and connection speed is extremely slow.
I have taken out my SIM card, and insert it into another N5 (D821) right next to this phone.
The speed is 10 times faster.
I am using CSL in Hong Kong, which the LTE is band 3 and 7 (1800 / 2600).
Baseband is updated to the latest version.
APN setting is correct.
No matter which ROM and kernel I use, the LTE problem exists.
Anyone have idea how to fix it?
Thank you very much!
y2kbugleung said:
Hi there.
I have just got a used-N5 on the Internet. It is a D821 (for Indonesia market I think).
Everything is fine except the LTE connection. (2G and 3G connection is normal)
The LTE problem is:
The searching speed is slow.
Even if LTE is connected, the response time and connection speed is extremely slow.
I have taken out my SIM card, and insert it into another N5 (D821) right next to this phone.
The speed is 10 times faster.
I am using CSL in Hong Kong, which the LTE is band 3 and 7 (1800 / 2600).
Baseband is updated to the latest version.
APN setting is correct.
No matter which ROM and kernel I use, the LTE problem exists.
Anyone have idea how to fix it?
Thank you very much!
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Questions belong in Q&A.
Every D821 is the same, every D820 is the same. There are no specific regional versions for a D821.
The ROM and kernel have nothing to do with your network connectivity.
Try flashing a different radio version.
Lethargy said:
Questions belong in Q&A.
Every D821 is the same, every D820 is the same. There are no specific regional versions for a D821.
The ROM and kernel have nothing to do with your network connectivity.
Try flashing a different radio version.
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Excuse me, do you mean try flashing a different baseband version?
I have tried the one comes with Kitkat (4.4.4) but no luck.
I know every D821 should be the same, but I just wonder why under same configuration (ROM, kernel, baseband), but the result is different.
I suspect if my D821 is a remarked D820.
Thanks.
y2kbugleung said:
Excuse me, do you mean try flashing a different baseband version?
I have tried the one comes with Kitkat (4.4.4) but no luck.
I know every D821 should be the same, but I just wonder why under same configuration (ROM, kernel, baseband), but the result is different.
I suspect if my D821 is a remarked D820.
Thanks.
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Yeah, radio and baseband are the very same.
With the exact same software, the result can be different because not every device is made the same; the perfect Nexus 5 does not exist.
The only difference between a D821 and a D820 are the LTE bands it can access, everything else including the 2G/3G bands are the same. If it was actually a D820, you'd probably get no LTE at all, unless your carrier supports one of the bands a D820 can access; it would not mean you get "slower" or "worse" LTE performance - you'd either get it or you wouldn't.
It might just be a hardware issue if you think it's slow.
Lethargy said:
Yeah, radio and baseband are the very same.
With the exact same software, the result can be different because not every device is made the same; the perfect Nexus 5 does not exist.
The only difference between a D821 and a D820 are the LTE bands it can access, everything else including the 2G/3G bands are the same. If it was actually a D820, you'd probably get no LTE at all, unless your carrier supports one of the bands a D820 can access; it would not mean you get "slower" or "worse" LTE performance - you'd either get it or you wouldn't.
It might just be a hardware issue if you think it's slow.
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I believe it is a hardware issue as well
If someone on xda give me a hope then I don't need to bargain with the shop
Thanks :good:
Hi all.
Last night I have brought it to the shop and tested there.
The LTE speed is very normal... I cannot trigger the problem by any means...
I suppose it to be the signal reception issue.
I left the shop and found the speed might be somehow dropped, but it could be still considered as normal.
I went home, re-flash another ROM and prepare for normal use.
However, the LTE becomes abnormal again...
I have found an interesting thing.
I have flashed stock ROM and OEM LOCK before bringing back to the shop, and it is normal speed.
I went home, OEM UNLOCK and flashed a custom ROM, it is abnormal.
Now, I have just re-flash the STOCK, and the LTE is not so normal.
But after OEM LOCK, it seems to be fine.
I believe there is no relation, but is it possible the OEM LOCK to do with the LTE issue?
Thanks. :crying:
y2kbugleung said:
Hi all.
Last night I have brought it to the shop and tested there.
The LTE speed is very normal... I cannot trigger the problem by any means...
I suppose it to be the signal reception issue.
I left the shop and found the speed might be somehow dropped, but it could be still considered as normal.
I went home, re-flash another ROM and prepare for normal use.
However, the LTE becomes abnormal again...
I have found an interesting thing.
I have flashed stock ROM and OEM LOCK before bringing back to the shop, and it is normal speed.
I went home, OEM UNLOCK and flashed a custom ROM, it is abnormal.
Now, I have just re-flash the STOCK, and the LTE is not so normal.
But after OEM LOCK, it seems to be fine.
I believe there is no relation, but is it possible the OEM LOCK to do with the LTE issue?
Thanks. :crying:
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Bootloader lock/unlock state has absolutely nothing to do with your issue.
The ONLY difference between having it locked/unlocked is so you can flash images. It does NOT affect anything else.
I am a web programmer. I always suspect something strange when something cannot be explained (bugs in coding, I mean)
I have tested several times today. Locked bootloader still gives a poor LTE result.
I really have no idea why there is LTE problem...
y2kbugleung said:
I am a web programmer. I always suspect something strange when something cannot be explained (bugs in coding, I mean)
I have tested several times today. Locked bootloader still gives a poor LTE result.
I really have no idea why there is LTE problem...
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Again, bootloader state affects nothing but the ability to flash images.
Yes I understand.
Just trying everything to find out a reason...
Hello,
I recently purchased a note 5 duos SM-N9208 from Taiwan. I was led to believe that the device was unlocked GSM, but had EV-DO capabilities. My understanding was that this would work on Verizon's network, because it had both radio chips inside. I was told by Verizon that "there is no approved way" for them to get me up and running on their network. The tech made a point of saying there is a difference between approved, and no way. This leads me to believe that something can be done. I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to help me out. Phone is running original Rom, unrooted, and is basically useless to me right now, as I'm desperately clinging on to my unlimited data with Verizon. Is it possible to root the device, and flash the modem with Verizon note 5 baseband info? Any help anyone can offer would be very much appreciated.
XDA Visitor said:
Hello,
I recently purchased a note 5 duos SM-N9208 from Taiwan. I was led to believe that the device was unlocked GSM, but had EV-DO capabilities. My understanding was that this would work on Verizon's network, because it had both radio chips inside. I was told by Verizon that "there is no approved way" for them to get me up and running on their network. The tech made a point of saying there is a difference between approved, and no way. This leads me to believe that something can be done. I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to help me out. Phone is running original Rom, unrooted, and is basically useless to me right now, as I'm desperately clinging on to my unlimited data with Verizon. Is it possible to root the device, and flash the modem with Verizon note 5 baseband info? Any help anyone can offer would be very much appreciated.
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Hi, and welcome to XDA!
When I looked up the specs on the Note 5 Duos, unfortunately it says nothing about CDMA. Having both "radio chips inside" can be taken two ways, in this case, this phone has the capability to handle two GSM carriers (and in this case, like most dual-sim phones, only the first SIM can do 3G/4G/LTE speeds).
Network Technology GSM / HSPA / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
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It seems the only option (if you want to use this phone), is to join a GSM carrier like AT&T, T-Mobile, or one of their MVNO's (like MetroPCS).
Hope this helps.
joel.maxuel said:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!
It seems the only option (if you want to use this phone), is to join a GSM carrier like AT&T, T-Mobile, or one of their MVNO's (like MetroPCS).
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, Joel! I'm excited to learn as much as possible from tgis forum. I actually changed over to T-Mobile, and have been good for the most part. The problem i'm having now is related to finding a way to flash the radio to all of their Rf's. I rooted, and attempted to flash the modem and bootloader from N920T, but it failed. I am still having a hard timr understanding why the identical hardware will not accept firmware from different model numbers. Again, very inexperienced, so it may be something very obvious i dont know about. If could offer any assistance, or provide and thread links that may be useful, i wpuld very grateful. Ive been searching nonstop, reading, and still cant seem to find a way.
Rockstah said:
Thank you, Joel! I'm excited to learn as much as possible from tgis forum. I actually changed over to T-Mobile, and have been good for the most part. The problem i'm having now is related to finding a way to flash the radio to all of their Rf's. I rooted, and attempted to flash the modem and bootloader from N920T, but it failed. I am still having a hard timr understanding why the identical hardware will not accept firmware from different model numbers. Again, very inexperienced, so it may be something very obvious i dont know about. If could offer any assistance, or provide and thread links that may be useful, i wpuld very grateful. Ive been searching nonstop, reading, and still cant seem to find a way.
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Well, the hardware (particularly the modem) is not compatible, hance the failed install. You are lucky it cancelled out as you could have had worse problems on your hands.
The way i see it, you will have to wait for other regions for the Note 5 Duos to open up before you get flashing options. I would even question the need for that, if you get a decent range of bands with T-Mo (I am assuming you can get 4G).
If you want to explore further anyway, please check out this thread:
> Samsung Galaxy Note5 > Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > [Help Thread][Galaxy Note5] Ask Any Question, Noob Friendly
Hope this helps.
joel.maxuel said:
Hope this helps.
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It did, thank you! I get decent service (including LTE) almost everywhere. Problem is, once I get to my.house, I go completely out of service. No call.I no text. It wouldn't be a big deal, but the Taiwanese phone doesn't have a way to turn WiFi calling.
Rockstah said:
It did, thank you! I get decent service (including LTE) almost everywhere. Problem is, once I get to my.house, I go completely out of service. No call.I no text. It wouldn't be a big deal, but the Taiwanese phone doesn't have a way to turn WiFi calling.
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Aha. That and no sign of the 700mHz band (which may not be part of your phone anyway, not just hidden by the current firmware).
Since the firmware would need deep support of Wifi Calling (or VoLTE), as in more than just an App, I am afraid you will have to wait until the Duos releases into an area with that support in their firmware (and hope that, that area's firmware doesn't disable a frequency you use).
Makes scraping all the lead paint[*] off the house the more manageable task, doesn't it?
[*] I really don't know if your house does indeed have lead paint. I am assuming it's coated in something metal, or concrete, which avoids typically high frequency radio waves from entering. I never had that problem with my house (which may be strange, since it was built in the 40's), but maybe creating ways to boost the existing signal may be in order instead.