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How to unlock 3g on a quadband Raphael.

I'm In India,
I got a Raphael this particular one :HTC Raphael
It has a Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz
with the latest stock radio : 1.13.25.24
And a custom ROM.
Now my problem is at the time i bought this there was no 3g in my country.
Now a few carriers provide 3g.
I can't access 3g.
I want to know if there is any way to access 3g by installing a PROGRAM or a ROM or a particular RADIO.
P.S: it doesn't matter if i can't make video calls(as no secondary camera) i would just like to access 3g network.
Please help needed and much appreciated.
PLEASE HELP
Thank you so much.
please help needed ( ihave searched all the fourms but haven't really found a solution, i have PMed many developers they don't respond. Please don't close this thread--> to mods. This is really important.

the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...

Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.

mputtr said:
the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...
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rmcknight said:
Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.
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My raphael is not unlocked or maybe doesn't have the chipset to recieve the 3g network please see my link !
I'm asking if there is any way that i can unlock the settings !
It is nothing to do with operator or comm manage.
Please understand the problem.
The problem is the chipset/processor not the Software or the operator
anyways thanks
PLease post if any solution...

When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps

moh980 said:
When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps
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Hey GUys please GO TO THE LINK I PROVIDED In the first post all this is not the problem the probles is the 706A processor provided by HTC which doesn't allow the phone to recieve signals beyond the 1900 band and the 3g signals are at 2100 band range !
And most of the Raphaels which have 3g have the 701A processors not 706A
I was just wondering if some senior member / chef / developer / a friend could help me.......
And tell if flashing a radio are a program will help this situation
Trust me it has nothing to do with operator, SIM , Comm manager !
Thank you all !
Please help if anyone....

actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php

mputtr said:
actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
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Sir with all due respect and without being rude to you i have to tell you to READ THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING :HERE
And please note the network part and the part which says the processor :Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz :this processor is the processor which does not allow me to recieve the 3g signals.
And in my country my operator does not have 3g yet but would launch in december. I traveled to 3 countries in last 1 year and tried to connect 3g (with stock radio and rom and failed)
I respect you but i have to say you are "Wrong"
thank you
and please refer to the link.
And i have done all the research i could possibly do before posting a thread.
Thank you ( no offense meant)

ok. you are right. In this case, there is nothing you can do since it is the chipset itself. It is not meant to do 3g and it probably will not do 3g unless you go in and try to mess with the bios itself. That would most probably brick your phone. So to answer your question, no it's not possible unless you want to risk bricking your phone.
the only thing i can say is that it sucks that you bought the version that couldn't do 3g, but there is probably not a way to change that.

It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.

petard said:
It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.
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yeah. I thought all touch pro phones are 3g enabled. Well I would have to admittedly say that it really reeks to have a 3g capable phone forced at only 2g through hardware limitations.

guys 3g can be possible
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...

franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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Hey do you also have the 706A procesoor ??
And guys it sucks that HTC dared to do this cheapstake thing !
Anyways my bad luck I'll change now only after 2 years so no 3g......
But on the optimistic side i love every other part of the phone specially the way flashing can be done like no other phone !
Its great !
3g would have been an icing on the cake though !
but HTC sucks with that !
Thank you all...

franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.

mputtr said:
sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.
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just for your information even Francis has the same set of TP with the same processor (706A) and hence he has the smae problem/ bad luck !
And we both need the same solution ( IF ANY AT ALL.........)
Thank you.

yes i realized that I misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. something you can't solve with software changes. Although I'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. but you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and I highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. good luck

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mputtr said:
yes i realized that i misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. Something you can't solve with software changes. Although i'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. But you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and i highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. Good luck
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shoutout to mods please help (but not at the cost of a brick)​
MOD EDIT: yelling will not help you overcome a device hardware limitation.

closed at OP request.

T-mobile 4g Radio

OKAY so I decided to update this thread:
There are two versions of the One X. One with aws bands and one without. I have a device without AWS (I am about 80 % sure). There are reports of people getting 4g on AWS with the Rogers Version as of now, and more testers need to check it out as it could still be possible on ATT.
This flash here theoretically could enable the One X radio to lach onto AWS (The radios here are for the One S Ville.)
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
I have flashed all three, and although I did not get 4g, I got faster ping and a near immediate connection onto T-mobile. To all the people saying this will "brick" the phone, it does not and you have nothing to worry. But as always make sure to do a backup. The radio hacks for the Skyrocket/Note were also based on flashing the Galaxy S2 radio directly on top. This should work the same.

I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.

ver2go said:
I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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if your rooted ull should be fine just make a back up of ur current set up. this is just a clockwork flash, it may not even flash, but if it does then there's a high chance of 4g.
i've done radio hacks before for the droid 3/skyrocket/note all from a similar concept. ex. flashing the t-mobile galaxy s2 radio on the note, to enable 4g.
if anyone could provide me with a better solution for an unlock i am sure i can get this to work. seems that the htc unlocker server is down right now
it's the same thing as flashing different radios via clockwork posted in the One X android dev forum

I'll give it a try, hopefully it won't mess anything up. So I just flash the radio in recovery. If no good, I just flash the correct radio again?
There is a one click no HTC Dev bootloader unlock in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558
---------- Post added at 07:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:25 PM ----------
I flashed:
Radio from RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2 [Recommended] (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L
From your link. It flashed correctly. The phone on data and voice still works. I confirmed the version in Settings is not my original:
0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L
I'm still on Edge, but I'm in a crappy cell area, so still not certain if radio or my area. I might give the:
Radio from Stock T-Mobile US (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L
Radio a try too.

good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?

I have an older sim I believe. It is one that came from an activation kit I bought off ebay. I tried the T-Mobile radio and same results, still on Edge, but still could be my location.

What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!

seh6183 said:
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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It's not just the SOC that determines hardware compatibility. There are various radio amplifiers and filters which are tuned to the specific frequencies that the phone is likely to encounter. If a phone is going to be sold in multiple markets, sometimes the hardware filters are set up for all frequencies and some are disabled via software, but often times this is not the case.
It's not impossible that a radio reflash can make it work, though highly improbable.
sassafras

Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?

tspx23 said:
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
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I have a tmobile one s, but i also have the one from att and i am so interested on using this phone over tmobile 4g let me know if i can of help. I am using my micro sim that came with the one s and i am getting edge (asume its the latest from tmobbile 4g mucro sim. I am on 1.85 rooted but i did not unlock. though i am sure we can flash through CWM. any ways i am sure there is a way out to get 3g or 4g on the one x on tmobile did not find the way yet.

flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.

danada said:
Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
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it's just a file in your system. it could potentially brick your phone but you can always get into recovery and restore. which is why i stated you should create a back up of your device before trying it out.
however, i was fairly certain it wouldn't do that because the internals of the One S/One X are nearly identical, they both share the same processor and most likely similar (if not same, radios).
either way, the the radios work, getting me higher ping, and working data without having to switch out my sim for an older one, hope there is a way to activate the 1700 band !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
EDIT 2: apparently there are two models of the ATT One X/XL one with the 1700 band and one without

tspx23 said:
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
sassafras

sassafras_ said:
Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
sassafras
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you might be right about this one but there are certain One X/XL's that do have the 1700 band found out through some searching and trying to figure out the reason behind it.
If that's correct.... the people with the 1700 band would have 4g when they flash this radio! also use *#*#4636#*#* to change network type to lte/gsm
--- for other phones though like the Skyrocket/Note they were directly compatible with T-mobile radios.

Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
uid=0 [email protected]:/ # +COPS: (1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",7
),(2,"ROGERS","","302720",2),(1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",0),
(1,"","","302220",2),(1,"","","302610",2),(1,"","","302610",7),(1,"","","302220"
,7),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
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danada said:
Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws

Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.

ver2go said:
Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Picking up an att s3 today to test it out. Most likely there's two versions of one x one with aws and one without. I know mine doesn't though.

tspx23 said:
Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
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I'm not exactly sure of this one.
If someone is willing to let me cut up their WIND sim (or lend me their WIND microsim), I'll re-flash the tmo radio and meet you somewhere to test it (Toronto, please).
~dan
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Just popped in an old WIND sim that I used to test AWS connectivity at first. Saw WIND Away with the standard radio, and after flashing the Tmo radio I see WIND Away and AT&T (AT+COPS=? shows Rogers, ATT, Telus, Bell).
I live by the lake, that would explain why ATT shows up.
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Check this out http://imgur.com/Nb984,rUvM6. Not using the One S radio...

[Q] How can the 4G frequency be changed from 1700mhz to 1800 mhz

I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.

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So are you not getting any 4G LTE? If so I'm not sure why. I get 4G LTE almost everywhere I go.
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Nope not getting it at all
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masucu said:
I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.

subhumanderelict said:
Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
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Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.

masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).

UntouchableS said:
Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
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Thing is they are waiting for all the tools atm, I mean they don't yet have all the new kits for it, it should be arriving, and the engineer is actually a certified person being one that works in a certified HTC service, so once we get the entire .... kit, he will start working on it toghther with the software engineer and so on, hope that it will all sort out, i did get another phone in the mean time as well, but as i said i will be reporting back.
Thank

subhumanderelict said:
That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.

masucu said:
Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
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Did you succeed?

MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you succeed?
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I would like to know also...

sandm4n said:
I would like to know also...
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So would I...I'm also from Brazil and brought the Verizon model because it is said to support the 2600 frequency. So frustrating

Which band is missing on the N920T from the N920A?

I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer about which LTE band I'll lose using the tmobile variant on att.

I don't think any, I think both are identical. I am using the N920T with AT&t. I would suggest you consider using DarthStalkers ROM, he was able to pull the AT&T carrier files.
The N920T & A are the same. If you had bought the N920I you might lose bands.

Does anyone know where I can get a band 12 coverage map? I can only find the LTE coverage map which doesn't specify if band 12 is used there

wdkingery said:
I'm having a hard time finding a definitive answer about which LTE band I'll lose using the tmobile variant on att.
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17 and 30 (I don't think the 920t's band 12 will work with AT&T's B17 - even though 12 is a subset of 17 (or do I have that backwards?) Possibly 29 (downlink only for AT&T) - but there's very little documentation on B29, so I'm not sure if the N920A supports it or not.

garyd9 said:
17 and 30 (I don't think the 920t's band 12 will work with AT&T's B17 - even though 12 is a subset of 17 (or do I have that backwards?) Possibly 29 (downlink only for AT&T) - but there's very little documentation on B29, so I'm not sure if the N920A supports it or not.
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Could you be so kind as to translate what that will mean to me? I have a t-mobile note 4 here on att and it seems to do fine.. Do you think I'll be so lucky with the note 5?

wdkingery said:
Could you be so kind as to translate what that will mean to me? I have a t-mobile note 4 here on att and it seems to do fine.. Do you think I'll be so lucky with the note 5?
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Band 29 is rarely used by AT&T (only as a downlink in heavily congested areas.) This shouldn't be a problem.
Band 30 (WCS band) is something AT&T _just_ started deploying, but I've never seen it in actual use. In fact, until very recently, none of AT&T's own phones supported it. B30 is really of limited value for general use due to it's propagation (or lack thereof.) Like 29, its probably only used as a supplement to other bands. I wouldn't worry about B30.
B17, however, is a Big Deal for AT&T. That's AT&T's primary "lower frequency" LTE band. Because of the low frequency, it has excellent propagation (meaning it moves farther and through trees, buildings, etc.) They use this band to cover large geographical areas with minimal towers. If you will be using your phone in a non-urban area, B17 is almost essential for AT&T. (My phone spends the majority of the time at my home on B17.)
I haven't heard of anyone with a TMO Note 5 device (without explicit B17 support) attaching to AT&T's B17, but that doesn't mean it won't work. However, Unless someone confirms B17 functionality on the n290T from actual use (and not just what they think), I'd suggest assuming that it won't work.

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Band 29 is rarely used by AT&T (only as a downlink in heavily congested areas.) This shouldn't be a problem.
Band 30 (WCS band) is something AT&T _just_ started deploying, but I've never seen it in actual use. In fact, until very recently, none of AT&T's own phones supported it. B30 is really of limited value for general use due to it's propagation (or lack thereof.) Like 29, its probably only used as a supplement to other bands. I wouldn't worry about B30.
B17, however, is a Big Deal for AT&T. That's AT&T's primary "lower frequency" LTE band. Because of the low frequency, it has excellent propagation (meaning it moves farther and through trees, buildings, etc.) They use this band to cover large geographical areas with minimal towers. If you will be using your phone in a non-urban area, B17 is almost essential for AT&T. (My phone spends the majority of the time at my home on B17.)
I haven't heard of anyone with a TMO Note 5 device (without explicit B17 support) attaching to AT&T's B17, but that doesn't mean it won't work. However, Unless someone confirms B17 functionality on the n290T from actual use (and not just what they think), I'd suggest assuming that it won't work.
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An informative post if ever there was one indeed.
What app do you use to determine which hand your phone is connected thru? I have found this app "LTE discovery", and it seems my att note 3 stays connected to 5 mostly, or 4 for lte. But then for GSM is doesn't list a band, but appears connected. On her t-mobile note 4 connected to att, she stays on 5, but the GSM doesn't appear to be connected to anything..
We will be almost exclusively in the middle of a city, but as with anything that could change or in the event of a road trip..
Is there a place I can sit and study this information? Perhaps a website with all of this data? Or do you happen to work in the field?
In a sea of noobs, an informed person is a real diamond in the rough - I appreciate your time.

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What app do you use to determine which hand your phone is connected thru? I have found this app "LTE discovery", and it seems my att note 3 stays connected to 5 mostly, or 4 for lte.
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That's a good app to use. I also use my phone's diagnostic menu's, but I doubt AT&T left those enabled on the 'a' variant.[/QUOTE]
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But then for GSM is doesn't list a band, but appears connected. On her t-mobile note 4 connected to att, she stays on 5, but the GSM doesn't appear to be connected to anything..
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Is that with "lte discovery" that she doesn't appear to have any GSM side connection? She most likely does, as that's where voice calls will take place...
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Is there a place I can sit and study this information? Perhaps a website with all of this data?
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Google. Then google some more. If you run out of pages from google, use another search engine. All the information is readily available - it just takes time to find it all.

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That's a good app to use. I also use my phone's diagnostic menu's, but I doubt AT&T left those enabled on the 'a' variant.
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Is that with "lte discovery" that she doesn't appear to have any GSM side connection? She most likely does, as that's where voice calls will take place...
Google. Then google some more. If you run out of pages from google, use another search engine. All the information is readily available - it just takes time to find it all.[/QUOTE]
so i got through all the hoops.. don't have LTE ;-(
it connects to band 4 or 5 when i first come out of airplane mode, but it jumps right back off. stuck on 4g. called at&t for an hour, they said initially it wasn't provisioned on my sim card, but then afterwards they determined it was a problem on my end, walked my thru APN settings and then ended the call.. still no LTE.
do you have an opinion of what i could do?

wdkingery said:
do you have an opinion of what i could do?
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Quoting me in a thread was enough... didn't have to also PM me...
@TEKHD has a firmware that might work for you. Check it out over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...h6-tekxodus-n5-urv1-00-00-lollipop-5-t3201869
He has apparently provided a mechanism that is working for other AT&T users... (probably via loading the AT&T RIL libs.)
I haven't tried this (and I don't even have a 't' variant myself.) On the other hand, a quick search of that thread seems to show that other people are having successes with AT&T sim's on 't' variant devices.
Good luck!
Gary

sorry about the double.
after a precursory examination, idon't see exactly what you are talking about in his thread..
is it a download?

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Quoting me in a thread was enough... didn't have to also PM me...
He has apparently provided a mechanism that is working for other AT&T users... (probably via loading the AT&T RIL libs.)
Good luck!
Gary
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the search feature doesn't appear to work for me; shows 0 results on att or at&t.. i'm having to sift thru all 114 pages by hand.

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He has apparently provided a mechanism that is working for other AT&T users... (probably via loading the AT&T RIL libs.)
Gary
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i searched all 114 pages and didn't find reference to any of that.. now i know why search provided no results; there weren't any!
so i need to find the att ril libraries. how will i ever find that.

wdkingery said:
i searched all 114 pages and didn't find reference to any of that.. now i know why search provided no results; there weren't any!
so i need to find the att ril libraries. how will i ever find that.
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Maybe that was the wrong firmware... it's something in the TMO dev section. Please search.

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Maybe that was the wrong firmware... it's something in the TMO dev section. Please search.
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i've searched the entire tmo dev section for term "at&t" and there are sparse hits; there is some conversation about CSC for a guy in canada getting his VoLTE working, but nothing on att.

wdkingery said:
i've searched the entire tmo dev section for term "at&t" and there are sparse hits; there is some conversation about CSC for a guy in canada getting his VoLTE working, but nothing on att.
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Apparently, you already found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...on-1-aroma-t3212091/post63516726#post63516726
This has AT&T RIL's in the update.zip, and from a quick look at the first post in that thread, they are installed based on an aroma installer. Others in that thread claim it works for them. You're using a TMO device on ATT, so you have to expect some level of incompatibility. There are AT&T LTE bands that the TMO device simply doesn't support. It doesn't matter what happens with your Note 4. Different device and different modem.
So, if you want to use a TMO device on ATT, you'll have to make some sacrifices. Most people will find the sacrifices are less drastic using an international version of the phone. For some reason, US carriers go out of their way to ensure their devices are incompatible with each other.

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Apparently, you already found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...on-1-aroma-t3212091/post63516726#post63516726
This has AT&T RIL's in the update.zip, and from a quick look at the first post in that thread, they are installed based on an aroma installer. Others in that thread claim it works for them. .
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ok this is where i started, by flashing the ATT option for this rom. but that doesn't solve the problem. i'm in the process of clean flashing the tmobile choice like he suggested.
thanks for all your help.
i'm afraid this isn't going to work either. i realize the wife's note 4 may have different hardware, and isn't a good reference.
i can see the thing connect to band 5, then band 4, lte .. but it's in "emergency calls only" mode, then it gives up on that, connects to HSUPA or HSPA+ and that's the last of an LTE connection.
i feel like it would connect if it could, and that i'm having a software issue.

problem solved guys sorry for the large headache..
Solution:
AT&T did not recognize my IMEI as being LTE capable. Because of that, they decline to allow my phone to connect to LTE. My phone would connect to an LTE tower (as in the screen shots a few pages back), but wouldn't receive anything back from AT&T, so it would say "emergency calls only" and then give up after about 10 seconds, and then never go back. Crap data all around at this time.
What you'll need to do is walk into an AT&T store, take a picture of the IMEI off an LTE phone, and then call in and change your IMEI to the phone you found. This will cause the system to recognize your phone as LTE capable, and like magic, you'll have LTE.

I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.

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I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?

Help with adding LTE band 2 (1900 mhz)

Hi guys,
So... basically I want to add the LTE band 2 (1900 mhz) since my carrier here in México (Movistar) uses that band. ( I cannot change my carrier since the sim belongs to my employer )
The long story is this:
For a long time I've been trying to get the LTE signal working on my M8 testing several ROMs, but I just discovered (a couple of weeks ago) that this won't be possible since the verizon M8 doesn't have that band enabled.
Based on that, I gave up and installed the NuSenSeveN ROM to check if it was possible to use another carrier's LTE service here in México. So... with this ROM, I was able to use Telcel's LTE band (4 - 1700 mhz) just by using one of this carrier's chip. With that in mind I'm thinking on selling this device to someone who has a contract with this carrier and buy a new phone that have my carrier's LTE band enabled.
But... something in my mind wanted to do the last attempt and searching I found the post about adding disabled bands to all Qualcomm devices, and optimistic as my mind is... here I am thinking that it may be possible to keep my m8 and being able to use my carrier's LTE service!!!
I know this is no easy task and that I should do everything I can to try to test this on my own, but since I found the post for adding bands for Qualcomm devices I've read almost the whole thread.. in almost a week now, and I haven't been able to do any progress on the matter so... I really hope someone with expertise can help me.
I also know no one here helps thinking about money but I know I'm not asking for something easy, probably its not even possible, ( I also know there are no guaranties that anything will work for sure)... so I'm willing to donnate for the help. I don't know if it's is forbidden to ask for this in xda, if it is, please let me know, I'll delete this post and restrain myself from doing the same in the future.
So, I'll explain the situation,
I've reviewed the main post about this matter here in xda,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
And similar posts like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/lte-band-7-2600mhz-finally-guide-t2992523
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/help/assistant-unlocking-lte-bands-t3213956
Basically from those posts I was trying to follow @regspy steps.. but I've had troubles with adb (I'm on Windows 10) and I've tried to install several drivers but all I've tried keeps giving me the "offline" result with the "adb devices" command, so I'm not able to go any further.
And here I am hoping someone can help me trough Team Viewer, if someone can help me please tell me, or if someone knows for sure this is not possible it'll also help me to quit on this task haha.
Thanks in advance.
PS. This is my M8's current state
This is my bootloader screen:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwRKcAC_V-OsTEw0d2ZmYml4b1E/view?usp=sharing
Also, I'm currently running the next ROM:
NuSenSeveN_Marshmallow_M8vzw_v2.0_0102216