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Switching to a JB based rom (paranoid android) or keeping stock?

Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?

I've tried Synergy ROM and also Paranoid Android. Personally I am loving PA right now. In the most recent stable build 1.9.5 nearly everything was working. There are some minor (to me) things like not being able to send MMS, but the fluidity of JellyBean is so worth it and Google Now works flawlessly. With the screen being as big as it is, the on screen keys don't seem to take up too much room for me, and I've really gotten used to them. It also disables the backlight for the physical keys so they disappear in the phone. Again...with the screen size, hybrid mode is really nice. The dual-pane display make going through setting a lot easier and really it just looks fantastic. One huge part for me was the JB messaging app. The stock TW one just looked so ugly, it made me hate texting...
Anyway, some of the motion features were nice, the ones I used the most were the swipe to capture screenshot and also direct call from messaging (putting the phone up to your ear whilst in a text conversation) but the rest were pretty worthless IMO.
If you don't feel like dealing with a not so functioning camera and a few other bugs, I would go with Synergy. Noticably faster than stock, I even got faster data speeds, too. Just anything but stock haha.
Any more questions let me know.
stevenjcampbell said:
Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?
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Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.

jmorton10 said:
Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.
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Agreed. I think the only reason I don't run stock (or any debloated form of stock is just because I'm flash happy and really like active development of Team Synergy)
I'm running Synergy 1.5 right now - no complaints here. Runs smoothly and I'm also using Nova and not seeing any lag. Recently flashed the leankernel and cpu editor script. Will see if that makes any difference in battery life. Even if it doesn't, I won't be upset because let's face it...I'm a heavy user of the device. I've purchased a couple extra batteries (with a charging cradle) that I can just pop in and out when needed. Best solution for me!

TouchWiz VS. AOSP?

I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.

me too. i tried all the aosp roms and miui. and always find myself going back to stock touchwiz. which is funny. i remember before i bought the phone all i heard was "the only bad thing is it has touchwiz UI" and " touchwiz sucks" and i absolutely love it.

i prefer AOSP

TW but using Nova Launcher and Google Now instead of S Voice.

DaemonAshra said:
I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:

prdog1 said:
Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.

I don't mind touchwiz all that much. Couldn't stand sense or moto blur but tw the isn't all that bad. Throw on apex the launcher and I'm good to go.
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DaemonAshra said:
I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.

prdog1 said:
Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.

DaemonAshra said:
I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I'm currently on Beans stock deodex with Ziggy's latest kernel @1.72/384. Kinda craps mods and Moto's International VRTheme. All Gapps 4.1-4.2 inverted. Rock stable and running 6500 Quads. Everything works including call recording.

I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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1ManWolfePack said:
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
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Wolfe don't be sucking these kids in for the kill. I'm stock tweaked, deodexed, kerneled and themed. Rockin it . :laugh:

I can't imagine AOSP being much faster than TW with the necessary apps frozen. On my old phones AOSP was definitely the way to go, but the S3 is so powerful anyways, and TW isn't very heavy anymore.
And, in all honesty, the TW Camera app alone is worth it for me to stay on TW. All the non-TW camera apps pale in comparison, both in quality and options.

DaemonAshra said:
I agree completely about you being old.
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Haha.. made me laugh
I honestly can't stand TW. I have it on my wife's phone because she likes the camera better than the AOSP. But it just seems like TW just tried to be too pretty and to me it didn't make me happy. Even though AOSP has its little bugs, I just like it better. There are no widgets that I'm OMG about really like I was with Sense, for instance their music player, calendar, clock, and Facebook for HTC sense app... of course I prefer sense 3.5 style widgets a little more than 4. So I just stick with MIUI because that was the AOSP that made me fall in love with AOSP. Used to have the Dinc and Dinc2 and it ran flawlessly on both. Just pure love.
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DaemonAshra said:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android.
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This.
I loaded up AOKP and tried that out for awhile. It was lightning fast on pretty much everything, but I just didn't feel like I was using my GS3 that I had fallen in love with. I'm on the stock JB OTA with Kindacrap Mods 2.6 flashed. The small tweaks in there make the phone for me. Everything's a little bit faster and once I found out that I could make the home button faster (my biggest complaint since owning the phone) simply by disabling the S-Voice polling, just more love to be had.
Being able to set separate lock screen and homescreen wallpapers that don't move (used to love the movement, but not so much anymore) is great. S-Beam is awesome. The premium suite will (hopefully) be a wonderful tweak. Samsung and TouchWiz have come a long way since my first Android phone: the Captivate on AT&T.

To me it is not about speed at this point but stability. Top end devices today do not need to go any faster then when you take it out of the box. I still scratch my head when I see people over clocking their S3. This thing already runs faster then some laptops that people own. Also, can't prove anything is faster when overclocking except running a benchmark. Otherwise they all feel the same!
I love the AOSP experience and options but it still has bugs that are important to me on the S3 so I am forced to use TW. Luckily TW is not that bad on the S3 and works well. If an AOSP Rom was bug free I surely would be running it. And don't believe the hype when people tell you AOSP has no bugs. It can run stable but has bugs that prevent me from using it as a daily.
Running Pure's TW Rom right now it works great. Already has part of multi-window cooked in with the bar on the left and all your apps showing. Hopefully next release will actually have the multi window. He also said that he has the ink effect on the lockscreen for the next rls as well. He is always pushing the bar with new features so I am pretty content right now with TW.

CM10.1 kangs have been nothing but stable for me since I got my S3 a few weeks ago. I like the whole interface and experience; hated TW. Call me lucky but I'm 100% satisfied.

I've gone back and forth between AOSP and TW-based ROMS. Besides stability, I do enjoy the extra features that are on the stock framework.
I'm just curious to see how developers will utilize the source code into their ROMS, now that it's out.

I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone

aooga said:
I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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Same here. I ran AOSP on my OG Epic and while I liked it for what our offered, constant struggles with features broken/ not working made me steer clear of it on GS3 until ALL phone functions work as well as they do on TW.

What is the best i815 experience ROM without sacrificing features?

Hi all,
My i815 is coming in tomorrow. I've been digging around for the best ROM to put on it, and I wanted to get some opinions. I would love to do Iocerra's CM 10.1, but I'd rather like to use the IR functionality of this tablet. It looks like this ROM may be my best bet, but I'm not 100% sure its fully operational.
Any thoughts?
The main functions I need are 3G/4G, GPS, hot spot, and IR.
Any insight is much appreciated! Having a Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean and having this thing on Honeycomb tomorrow is going to drive me nuts I'm pretty sure.
Brandon

If you want 100% features, go with the ICS "leak" -- the rom you linked to.
Otherwise, CM 10.1 has the best support as no other custom roms support data or the GPS on the i815.
Samsung includes all the apps you need (and all the apps you DON'T need) for stuff like the IR blaster.
What JB features are you going to miss on ICS?

Kralik said:
If you want 100% features, go with the ICS "leak" -- the rom you linked to.
Otherwise, CM 10.1 has the best support as no other custom roms support data or the GPS on the i815.
Samsung includes all the apps you need (and all the apps you DON'T need) for stuff like the IR blaster.
What JB features are you going to miss on ICS?
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Thanks for the reply. I am going to really miss the butter.
My i815 came in today and actually came with 4.0.04 already on it! I was stoked to see that. Its pretty fluid, definitely workable to keep all of the features. This will do for now, although I do wish someone would be willing to fix the IR blaster, but I assume no one wants to because it might be a ton of work for little payoff in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks, again.
Brandon

ICS isn't all that bad. I did disable most of Samsung's bloatware, though.
I've noticed that I get MUCH better blacks on CM 10.1 though. When I used LCD testing program that makes the entire screen go black on the stock ICS rom, it really was more like a glowing dark grey. On CM 10.1, I do the same in a pitch-black room and see only a hint of light. Have you tried testing your AMOLED screen yet and/or noticed anything similar?

Well according to me the best is CM10.1 but there are some problems with calling, GPS & Bluetooth. So, use CM10...

virsingh said:
Well according to me the best is CM10.1 but there are some problems with calling, GPS & Bluetooth. So, use CM10...
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CM10 doesn't support GPS.

[Q] switching from captivate glide

hi..
i'm getting this phone since i was tired waiting for the JB port for the captivate glide (and i mean a port which actually works with bluetooth phone), plus, i see that it seems to have a faster processor, and actually official support for JB) still i don't understand why it's considered low activity legacy device. (i don't care much about the camera, at most i just do portal submission to google. )

Um, not to be rude, but where's the question? lol
It's specs are rather mid-range, the keyboard is very niche by now.. so it's a low activity device due to its low popularity?

why it's considered low activity legacy device?
is no one using it?

emaayan said:
is no one using it?
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it's a niche device. far less popular than the big names like galaxy s3/s4, htc one, xperia z etc etc

so is the captivate glide i assume...
and yet it has it's own forum..
Braccoz said:
it's a niche device. far less popular than the big names like galaxy s3/s4, htc one, xperia z etc etc
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emaayan said:
and yet it has it's own forum..
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uh, yes, and this is relay's own. doesn't really matter where they put it...

We didn't choose to put the device here. The mods did.
We're lucky to even have a forum. Despite the fact that low end phones which you've never heard of got forums before they even launched, the mods decided that the Relay was not popular enough to have one. Even once we had a booting CM9 ROM. After 6 months of complaints, they finally gave us one. But they put it here.
Previously we were squatting in another device's forum, so this is an improvement.

but it still looks better then the captivate glide..
i mean it has an OFFICIAL jellybean, and i'm assuming someone made it a stock rom of jelly bean. it has a better processor even.
what i don't understand is why do you even NEED a section of low activity devices, i mean it's not like you don't have enough ROOM on the internet like a library or something.

emaayan said:
i mean it has an OFFICIAL jellybean, and i'm assuming someone made it a stock rom of jelly bean. it has a better processor even.
what i don't understand is why do you even NEED a section of low activity devices, i mean it's not like you don't have enough ROOM on the internet like a library or something.
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Well, I don't know what you'd have us do about it. No one here had anything to do with the decision, or possesses the power to change it.

Jax184 said:
Well, I don't know what you'd have us do about it. No one here had anything to do with the decision, or possesses the power to change it.
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Aye, and to your earlier point we worked hard to get us our own little space.
Had the device gotten it's own forum at launch or before it, popularity would be higher... but that's a cause and effect issue that's long past debating.
Woot.
We got a forum!
~Running CM10.1

emaayan said:
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It's just less popular. The phone quite good actually.

Well like I said , I gave up on it: ( wish I could use it.
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I'm going to try something outrageous and attempt to whore this thread to ON topic ..
I'm thinking about swtiching from the captivate glide for the same reasons, i want a jellybean phone with working bluetooth and a physical qwerty keyboard.
How do you relay 4g owners find the keyboard vs. the glide ? easier to type?
How are the cases, number row easy to access?
How are the Rom's ... Fully working, issues ??
I'm pretty comfortable with my phone but i've never been "in love" with teh keyboard like I was on a blackberry.. .i find the keys are too spaced apart and too big for typing without looking at the keyboard.
speed performance etc are great.
camera spec shows 5mp camera vs. 8mp. How are the quality of the pictures vs the glides ??
Thanks much!

my impression were (i've ditched it and returned to glide)
the keyboard does seem easier to type, and glide buttons seem harder to press, i keep getting my fingers stuck in the middle between the keys. the numbers row are easy access cases seem solid.
roms however are a problem, i'm talking about the stock roms as i havn't been able nor to root, or intstall a rom. there seems to be a wifi issue that keeps getting the phone disconnected and re-connected, making internet connection impossible, initially i thought it might be my AP acting up, but the glide didn't have any issues. only the relay.
another main problem, is that performance, or lack of it. to tell you the truth , i didn't notice any difference, in fact it might have been more sluggish then the glide. this off course might have been an issue with all the bloatware i couldn't uninstall not being root, however i noticed that with jellybean you specify disable on each service, and that might have been helfull.
my attempts at doing root, failed. i tried using CWM, (there seems to be only one version for this phone) however this particualr cwm fails at installing everything else on signature verification message. in other cwm mods, and twrp you can disable signature verification, but they are all being installed with cwm (not odin flashable).
in the end i tried re-flashing the rom with JB, and ended up with wel..not a brick, but ever since then, i can't seem to dial out. there internet seems to be working over the sim card, but not dialing. i'm not sure if i should get another phone to try again, as there doesn't seem to be much support, actually i didn't even see any "bare boned" rooted stable non-alpha roms for this thing yet (or ever be). like the glide has.
as for the camera, i realy don't think there's a difference between 5 and 8 mp, i didn't see any difference.
in short, hardware the phone seems fine, however the rom ,root, etc.. lack of it) doesn't seem to be very common, as of know i'm not sure if i should get another one and try again, or hold off and see if it dies.
yohan4ws said:
I'm going to try something outrageous and attempt to whore this thread to ON topic ..
I'm thinking about swtiching from the captivate glide for the same reasons, i want a jellybean phone with working bluetooth and a physical qwerty keyboard.
How do you relay 4g owners find the keyboard vs. the glide ? easier to type?
How are the cases, number row easy to access?
How are the Rom's ... Fully working, issues ??
I'm pretty comfortable with my phone but i've never been "in love" with teh keyboard like I was on a blackberry.. .i find the keys are too spaced apart and too big for typing without looking at the keyboard.
speed performance etc are great.
camera spec shows 5mp camera vs. 8mp. How are the quality of the pictures vs the glides ??
Thanks much!
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I moved to this phone from the samsung epic. I loved that phone and wanted something similar so I got the relay on a whim. I was able to root and install cm with little trouble. The keyboard is nice but I think the droid 4 keyboard feels nicer. My fiancee has the droid 4, however, and the phone has had many problems with it. Some chargers do not fit well in port, thus not charging the phone. Also the phone gets really hot and read somewhere sometimes this melts stuff inside, thus phone not charging the phone as well. Overall relay is boss, although I rooted and flashed everything before official jb update. So not sure what that entails. The new kernel is still iffy for me. Getting "...not responding" messages for several apps stock and otherwise, but running 6.19 build and everything is smooth.
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[Discuss] Which are you more excited about, TW 4.3 or AOSP 4.4?

So with the probability that we'll be getting OTA 4.3 soon and the official 4.4 nightlies bound to start anytime, which are you most looking forward to?
I love the features of TouchWiz, but I've migrated to CyanogenMod since 4.1.2 feels really dated now.
Which features do you like about your respective favorite and why?

32BitWhore said:
So with the probability that we'll be getting OTA 4.3 soon and the official 4.4 nightlies bound to start anytime, which are you most looking forward to?
I love the features of TouchWiz, but I've migrated to CyanogenMod since 4.1.2 feels really dated now.
Which features do you like about your respective favorite and why?
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im exited about touchwiz, yes you can start calling me names now but i like the features on it, i dont care about that customization like in CM i want the features, like how i can wirelessly stream content to my tv without any additional hardware
by the way its a Sony tv not samsung :good:
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im exited about touchwiz, yes you can start calling me names now but i like the features on it, i dont care about that customization like in CM i want the features, like how i can wirelessly stream content to my tv without any additional hardware
by the way its a Sony tv not samsung :good:
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I'm not here to make fun. I think TW has as many benefits as AOSP does, just for different reasons. :highfive:
Just wanted to see what everyone else's thoughts were.

I am running CM 11 and I have enabled ART. I was excited about TW but as of right now I am just happy with how stupid fast this is.
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I have owned my s3 since release. I have ONLY ran AOSP since day 1. Haven't even tried TW hell I might like it.
Will defiantly move to 4.4 once there are cherry picks. I enjoy aosp so to answer your question 4.4!
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Questions go in Q&A and help section.
Please do not check the box "yes this is a question" as it puts a [Q] in the title and then those get moved to Q&A
I have edited your title to read [Discuss], although the whole AOSP vs., TW subject has been beaten to death
It is just a matter of preference and many of these threads can be found across XDA
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4.3 TW to be honest
Want to see if it boosts Quadrant benchmarks since the CM11 builds certainly haven't

Who cares if the quadrant score isn't higher? As others have said, 4.4 is insanely fast! I don't need a score to tell me that. 4.3 TW may have higher quadrant scores but it won't touch 4.4 AOSP for real life speed. Apps open instantaneously, lag is nonexistent... What are you looking for?
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LLStarks said:
4.3 TW to be honest
Want to see if it boosts Quadrant benchmarks since the CM11 builds certainly haven't
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Ofc TW will bench better since they "cheat" to boost scores in certain benchmarks.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/

Actually Ubuntu Touch is what i wan't the most

I like TW. I have been running carbon since goodness is MIA. I can say I look forward to a new TW. I miss some of the features.

Tough question. If we even see TW 4.3 anymore, I'd say that. I was on the cm11 builds for a few days, and like most aosp roms, it is plagued by camera quality and data issues. Data is fine in good service areas, but low/fringe areas struggle, then it murders your battery. I had to come back to TW for stability. I know cm11 is young, but even some aosp 4.2 and 4.3 roms give me similar results with the camera and data issues. Just my experience.
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kidhudi said:
Actually Ubuntu Touch is what i wan't the most
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As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.

joshua5683 said:
As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
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Exactly like me. I don't even like the TW interface, but the camera and data issues always make me come back. I tried CM11 over the weekend, and it was really smooth. ART is pretty cool, too. Makes the apps launch almost instantly, but isn't compatible with all apps. Makes for a lot of troubleshooting and xda reading. What made me switch back to TW was when my girlfriend and I were literally right next to each other using our phones, she had 4G (Galaxy S4) and I had no data. It never came back until we moved to an area with a little better signal.
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joshua5683 said:
As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
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ART is not part of CM , its a experimental runtime environment that Google has inserted into 4.4 . At this point it's mainly experimental for developers. Many / most current apps don;t support it.
If you don;t like the way TouchWiz looks , you can run any other launcher on a TW ROm and have the best of both worlds, stability and all features working with a different UI appearance.

DigitalMD said:
ART is not part of CM , its a experimental runtime environment that Google has inserted into 4.4 . At this point it's mainly experimental for developers. Many / most current apps don;t support it.
If you don;t like the way TouchWiz looks , you can run any other launcher on a TW ROm and have the best of both worlds, stability and all features working with a different UI appearance.
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Just my .02 but the TW vs. AOSP was never just about appearance. It was more about the amount of "bloatware" on TW roms that some never use or see any need for. Most of the Samsung features and apps fall into the this category.

I just went back to a TW ROM due to way too many random reboots, shoddy data, and mediocre camera quality. It's a love hate relationship, because the only thing I like about TW is the data and camera, while the UI and buttery smoothness of AOSP is what I really enjoy. TW ROMs always lag for me. If only we could have both together...
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Just my .02 but the TW vs. AOSP was never just about appearance. It was more about the amount of "bloatware" on TW roms that some never use or see any need for. Most of the Samsung features and apps fall into the this category.
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Apps you don;t want are easily removed or frozen. They don;t hurt anything just sitting there anyway. The Custom TW ROMs have the useless items removed while retaining the good stuff like All Share and the IR Remote functions. They also add the options to install themes, lots of 4.3 and 4.4 features etc. That's why there's not a lot of excitement about 4.3 or 4.4, we already have most of it.

I am excited for both.
I really wish there was working multiboot for the d2vzw, though. When I'm traveling, I'd rather be on TW because I find battery life and camera quality are much better. Otherwise I'm on AOSP.