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[Q] v21y/GB 2.3.4 update causes apps to not be able to install/update

I recieved the OTA update for the G2x to the latest v21y firmware and Gingerbread 2.3.4 OS. Everything seems to have gone fine, except that now in Google Play apps it gives me the following error when trying to install or update *any* app:
'Error downloading "xxx". There is insufficient space on the device.'
Of course, I have an additional 8 GB micro SD card that is almost totally empty, and the internal phone storage has 3.2 GB available. The phone memory lists 0.94 GB available as well.
I followed the usual advice of clear data / clear cache for both Google Play and Download Manager. I unmounted/mounted both phone and SD cards. I turned off the phone, pulled the battery for a bit, took out the external SD card, put the battery back in, and booted back up. I rebooted a bunch of times. I put the external SD card back in. I cleared off extra crud from phone storage via a file manager, and I cleared caches on all installed apps.
This has never happened before, and directly after the update it has happened 100% of the time I have tried.
Any ideas? Is this happening to anyone else who got the update? (I'm completely on stock, btw, still not out of warranty.)

Clear market apparently cache/data
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kwes1020 said:
Clear market apparently cache/data
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mikefarny said:
I followed the usual advice of clear data / clear cache for both Google Play and Download Manager.
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Isn't that it? Is there something more that constitutes clearing market cache/data?

mikefarny said:
Isn't that it? Is there something more that constitutes clearing market cache/data?
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Oh reading fails me sometimes. Try wiping cache and dalvik in cwm maybe.
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kwes1020 said:
Oh reading fails me sometimes. Try wiping cache and dalvik in cwm maybe.
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Does that require rooting? I haven't installed CWM yet, as I was holding off on all the experimentation until my year was up.
If there's no other usual thing to try, if T-mo doesn't come back with a reasonable response I suppose that's the next step.

mikefarny said:
Does that require rooting? I haven't installed CWM yet, as I was holding off on all the experimentation until my year was up.
If there's no other usual thing to try, if T-mo doesn't come back with a reasonable response I suppose that's the next step.
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No it requires Nvflashing cwm. But that will ruin your "warranty" on a end of life phone
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Or a factory reset beofre rooting, although if you factory reset might as well root the phone lol.
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mt3g said:
Or a factory reset beofre rooting, although if you factory reset might as well root the phone lol.
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You can factory reset without root. That's what T-Mobile will tell you to do anyways. I've went through six g2x in the past two weeks...that's their answer to everything lol
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I'm aware of that, just saying that's an option.
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mt3g said:
I'm aware of that, just saying that's an option.
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I root everything I get on day one. Nothing stock and limiting my user options appeals to me. You can always revert to stock or if you hard brick no one could tell anyways.
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So a factory reset fixed it. I didn't have to wipe the phone and external SD, and so I'm just reinstalling apps and setting up a few of them. This was a good time for some spring cleaning anyway, I suppose.
It was probably some stupid permissions thing, but without root I can't even fix that.

mikefarny said:
So a factory reset fixed it. I didn't have to wipe the phone and external SD, and so I'm just reinstalling apps and setting up a few of them. This was a good time for some spring cleaning anyway, I suppose.
It was probably some stupid permissions thing, but without root I can't even fix that.
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U got the ota? Nandroid it, and send it to kwes
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What is this update supposed to accomplish anyway? I'm rooted and trying ROMS pretty much every week (since no ICS rom works for me as a daily driver). Should I / can I do the update to 21y?

V21y 2.3.4 Rooted Touch Key lights
so everything else works fine when it comes to rooted app root request, but for some reason when a touch key light app request permisson it can do the job of adjusting the touchkey brightness, however the screen becomes very unresponsive, to the point where you cant slide left and right... I have run out of ideas as to why this is? has anyone else experienced this? I like to be able to turn that brightness down

Synergy rom

What would happen if I didn't wipe before flashing? And do I need to flash the 12.2 kernel
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I'm not sure what would happen. It would probably be less stable or not work... You could always try it though.
You do not need to flash any kernel. Only flash LeanKernel if you want to. If you don't want to mess with BusyBox, I'd wait on the kernel.
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From my experience on other devices when flashing ROMs and not wiping I would almost always bootloop. Again that is my general experience. I would assume there would be similar results.
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I usually backup the current ROM first, then factory reset before wiping cache. I end up with good results that way. The only time I installed a ROM without wiping, it was unstable.

Well, I tried flashing it, and it seemed to work. This is without the wipe.. But the only thing I found incorrect was that the wifi notification didn't go away. That was an easy fix though.
Should the battery life be noticeably better?
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Yeah I was kind of retarded the other day and forgot to wipe.:laugh: I was greeted with a nice bootloop until I pulled the battery and tried again (this time the correct way) then everything worked great..

I haven't wiped for any of the Synergy builds and my phone is running great Running Imos kernel too. Awesome battery life from this thing

So.. Even though I didn't get a boot loop after flashing without the wipe... Do you guys think I should just wipe and flash again?
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I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but I'd say if it's working then leave it be..

ahlexkim said:
So.. Even though I didn't get a boot loop after flashing without the wipe... Do you guys think I should just wipe and flash again?
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A wipe may not be completely necessary but if you do run into problems (FCs, etc.) and post a problem the devs or users are going to ask if you did a full wipe or not - and then recommend that you do one. In the end it wouldn't hurt to wipe even if you are fully functional.
I used to hate wiping all the time but with the proper backup applications it doesn't take long at all. I use Titanium Backup to backup apps and then also do in app backups for specific things like nova launcher, minimalistic text, and gosms,

Google now issues

Okay, my issues started when I switched to the baked rom. I had gotten google now working fairly well on ICS. After I switched the voice recognition just hears me as background noise. It will listen then just go back to the tap the mic to speak screen. No searching. No crashing. Nothing. I even tried switching to cyanogenmod 10. Exact same issue. I think the offline voice files might be corrupted. Does anyone know if I might be right and if so how I can delete them?
P.S.- I always do a clean install. Factory reset, clear data in CWM, clear cache (for redundancy), clear dalvik cache.
Thank you in advance.
sincerely
- Someone clearly missing something obvious.

I know that in CM10 they say the issue is because its using the mic on the top of the device instead of the one on the bottom, and the top one is normally for noise cancelling. Try speaking into the mic at the top and see if it helps. Beyond that I can't give you any help.

I tried your idea. Nothing. Did ANOTHER clean install. Nothing. Did your idea with the clean install. Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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jlm123hi said:
I tried your idea. Nothing. Did ANOTHER clean install. Nothing. Did your idea with the clean install. Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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You are still dirty flashing. A clean flash involves formatting system. That is where old rom is located and why phone will reboot after factory reset, dalvic and cache wipe. A clean wipe will not boot since there is no longer an OS/ROM on device.

I know what a clean install is. I have been doing it. I tried his idea AFTER I did another clean install and it worked fine.
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What prdog1 is telling you is that you are actually not doing a clean install. Factory reset/data does not remove the original rom partioned on your sd. In order to have a true clean install you need to go into mounts+storage and format the system. That removes the old rom so flashing the new one is truly a clean install. Your technically doing a dirty flash still, which is generally fine when loading the same rom base.
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Oh. That helps to explain him better. Wow I've been doing it wrong for years. Lucky for me this is the first time I've had problems. Thanks for the info!
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jlm123hi said:
Oh. That helps to explain him better. Wow I've been doing it wrong for years. Lucky for me this is the first time I've had problems. Thanks for the info!
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This is the reason many people have problems that the majority don't have. Flashing different rom bases on top of each other can corrupt the rom and no one can troubleshoot the answer unless it is a rom bug that the majority has. Factory reset, cache and dalvic wipes help eliminate apps and data problems.

[Q] Restoring system apps from Titanium Backup on same ROM

I have a backup of all the user and system data on a CM10.1 nightly (3/16, not that it really matters) and was going to do a clean flash of the most recent nightly. Is it safe to restore the system data after flashing the ROM? I assume this is where all my ROM settings, homescreen layouts, etc. are stored. I've seen a lot of threads where people say not to restore the system data, but I wouldn't think that would be an issue going from one nightly to another on the same ROM.

You can restore system apps but not other system data as far as I know.
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You can try it but I wouldn't recommend it. I've had luck with restoring only the system data that has the tibu icon, wifi, accounts,etc.
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Ahh that's a bummer. So do you guys just write down your settings and manually set them up again? There should be an easy way of restoring this stuff, at least the homescreen layouts/Trebuchet settings.

Sheeze said:
Ahh that's a bummer. So do you guys just write down your settings and manually set them up again? There should be an easy way of restoring this stuff, at least the homescreen layouts/Trebuchet settings.
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I remember exactly how my phone is setup. 30 minutes max and I'm all done from scratch.
I never restore anything from anywhere, it causes nothing but problems
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xcrazydx said:
I remember exactly how my phone is setup. 30 minutes max and I'm all done from scratch.
I never restore anything from anywhere, it causes nothing but problems
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Yep I'm the same way I could probly set my phone up with my eyes closed I've done it so many times at lest I'm on rogers and don't need to put my apns in.

xstokerx said:
Yep I'm the same way I could probly set my phone up with my eyes closed I've done it so many times at lest I'm on rogers and don't need to put my apns in.
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I'm on att and never have to mess with apn. Not once in hundreds, maybe thousands of flashes.
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I remember exactly how my phone is setup. 30 minutes max and I'm all done from scratch.
I never restore anything from anywhere, it causes nothing but problems
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I've only ever restored the user data and that seems to work okay. I guess another question would be how often do you do a fresh flash? Unless I encounter problems, I usually just dirty flash.

Sheeze said:
I've only ever restored the user data and that seems to work okay. I guess another question would be how often do you do a fresh flash? Unless I encounter problems, I usually just dirty flash.
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Same, although my number of flashes is definitely not close to yours

Sheeze said:
I have a backup of all the user and system data on a CM10.1 nightly (3/16, not that it really matters) and was going to do a clean flash of the most recent nightly. Is it safe to restore the system data after flashing the ROM? I assume this is where all my ROM settings, homescreen layouts, etc. are stored. I've seen a lot of threads where people say not to restore the system data, but I wouldn't think that would be an issue going from one nightly to another on the same ROM.
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Clean flash + restore data = dirty flash
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I never understood why Titanium Backup didn't explain that better. The app rocks but they make it sound like a lazy man's restore tool lol
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Oh, I thought it just meant not doing the wipe data/factory reset step when installing the ROM, though I do see your point that restoring data over a clean ROM would be essentially a dirty flash. What about when you're just restoring user data and not any system data?

Sheeze said:
Oh, I thought it just meant not doing the wipe data/factory reset step when installing the ROM, though I do see your point that restoring data over a clean ROM would be essentially a dirty flash. What about when you're just restoring user data and not any system data?
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Clean flash every time, or you're gonna be one of the dummies making stupid threads about why your apps fc, and blaming the Rom for your mistakes.
Yes dirty flashes work sometimes, but for noobs it causes problems.
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Sheeze said:
Oh, I thought it just meant not doing the wipe data/factory reset step when installing the ROM, though I do see your point that restoring data over a clean ROM would be essentially a dirty flash. What about when you're just restoring user data and not any system data?
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Restoring the data for user apps via titanium backup is usually OK. I am yet to experience any issues doing so.
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Force Close Loop (Bricked?)

Hey Guys - I am out of ideas and think my run with the charge might be coming to an end.
My phone is running FP8 stock ROM, rooted, with some apps frozen using TiBu. I have not issues with this set up since the update was pushed. I used tweak for a year or so, then went back to stock for FP8.
A few days ago my phone started to act weird. Widgets were not updating, apps randomly force closing. It was annoying but still usable. I decided to do a factory reset and then everything hit the fan. When I boot up the phone every app on my phone force closes and it is not usable. The "Setup Wizard" also force closes so I can not even get past that.
I have tried flashing other ROMs including Eclipse, tweaked, EP4 with pit, etc.The flash is successful but the force closes persist. I have also tried wiping data through stock recovery and CWM, but I do not think it works. I still see force close errors when the phone boots of apps that should have been wiped (twitter,TiBu, etc.). Anything else I can try? Pretty desperate as it looks like this thing might be toast.
Cliffs
Phone acting weird, reset data multiple times and everything force closes. Phone is not usable at all.
Tried wiping data but does not seem to work, downloaded apps still force close
Flashed different ROMS (both stock w/ pit and custom)
Still force closing. Help?

If the force closes are persisting even though data is wiped, you may have something nasty sticking around through dirty flashes (assuming you're flashing over the old). Make sure you clear all caches and if that doesn't work, it's a shot in the dark but you may want to try formatting the system partition through CWM and then reinstalling FP8 or whatever custom ROM you want. Whatever you do have backups ready...
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If the force closes are persisting even though data is wiped, you may have something nasty sticking around through dirty flashes (assuming you're flashing over the old). Make sure you clear all caches and if that doesn't work, it's a shot in the dark but you may want to try formatting the system partition through CWM and then reinstalling FP8 or whatever custom ROM you want. Whatever you do have backups ready...
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Thanks for the idea. I am pretty sure I have already tried this but through CWM I will clear cache, davlik cache, data, and format system then try a flash of stock with .pit
Like you said, it seems like whatever is causing this is still sticking around even after all this clearing/flashing. Is there any way to clear these things through adb? Or would getting a log be worth my time?

If all else fails try odin.
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If all else fails try odin.
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I have tried flashing ROMS (stock and custom) through ODIN and to no avail. I am able to flash but it still does not overwrite the corrupted data. I still get force close errors for downloaded apps that should have been erased/over written. Even formatted my SD card just to be sure and didn't help.
Seems like my only option may be to somehow find and delete the data through ADB. Clearing through CVM and stock recovery is not doing anything. Problem is I do not know where this old/bad data is!

SamsungPST?
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SamsungPST?
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Never heard of PST when you posted that. Good idea, but I just tried a few flashes and the effect was no different than ODIN/CWM
This problem keeps getting weirder. So sometimes I am able to get through into the phone (even though I get force close pop ups every 2 seconds). I was able to uninstall most of the apps causing the FCs (not all because some are the system apps).
However, everytime the phone reboots the apps come back! Where in the hell are they being cached/stored to just magically re-appear after data wipes/flashes/un-installs. Seems like I have all these corrupted apps that I can not get rid of. Through terminal emulator I cleared data, and davlik but didn't help.

Have you pulled your sd card and sim then checked if it would boot. Also wipe internal sd from stock recovery
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Have you pulled your sd card and sim then checked if it would boot. Also wipe internal sd from stock recovery
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Yea, eventually I can get it to boot but the phone is not usable with all the force closing. The option to clear internal SD only seems to be available for the older ROMS, but I flashed ED1 and cleared it. No luck.
Think I may just be out of ideas on this one...

Pray to jeebus, might be your last option
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Have you gone into Settings, Accounts & Sync and turned everything off? If you are back to stock then this could be the cause of restore of the apps. You are using the full EP4 odin - rom, kernel and radios - correct?
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Reilly1812 said:
Have you gone into Settings, Accounts & Sync and turned everything off? If you are back to stock then this could be the cause of restore of the apps. You are using the full EP4 odin - rom, kernel and radios - correct?
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Yep I have turned them off. My settings also get reset however when I clear data, reboot, re flash etc.
Good question about the full EP4 ODIN. I have been using the ones from imnuts website, and have also tried the CWM packages from kvswim's thread in the development section. Tried Eclipse Beta 2 & EP4,EE4,ED1, FP8 stock. I also tried the CM10 ROM just to see if the change to ext file system would do anything. Not sure if any of them are labled as having rom,kernal and radios, but I would imagine at least a few of them are.
No matter what I do, I get outsmarted and all my corruped apps, settings and force closes remain.

I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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I was thinking it was a hardware failure to
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Reilly1812 said:
I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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To skip activation - on the setup screen click on the Emergency Dial button. Once at the dialer, dial:
*#TESTMODE (or *#83786633)
That will "enable the soft keys", making it so you can then hit home to get to the launcher without activating.

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To skip activation - on the setup screen click on the Emergency Dial button. Once at the dialer, dial:
*#TESTMODE (or *#83786633)
That will "enable the soft keys", making it so you can then hit home to get to the launcher without activating.
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Pretty cool! Didn't know I could do that. However once getting past that just about every app continues to force close including tw launcher.
Being that old apps & settings will continue to be restored after doing everything possible to get rid of them it must be a hardware issue.
Oh well, I will keep the phone around for the hell of it but guess it's time I look into something new.