I have a backup of all the user and system data on a CM10.1 nightly (3/16, not that it really matters) and was going to do a clean flash of the most recent nightly. Is it safe to restore the system data after flashing the ROM? I assume this is where all my ROM settings, homescreen layouts, etc. are stored. I've seen a lot of threads where people say not to restore the system data, but I wouldn't think that would be an issue going from one nightly to another on the same ROM.
You can restore system apps but not other system data as far as I know.
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You can try it but I wouldn't recommend it. I've had luck with restoring only the system data that has the tibu icon, wifi, accounts,etc.
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Ahh that's a bummer. So do you guys just write down your settings and manually set them up again? There should be an easy way of restoring this stuff, at least the homescreen layouts/Trebuchet settings.
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Ahh that's a bummer. So do you guys just write down your settings and manually set them up again? There should be an easy way of restoring this stuff, at least the homescreen layouts/Trebuchet settings.
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I remember exactly how my phone is setup. 30 minutes max and I'm all done from scratch.
I never restore anything from anywhere, it causes nothing but problems
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xcrazydx said:
I remember exactly how my phone is setup. 30 minutes max and I'm all done from scratch.
I never restore anything from anywhere, it causes nothing but problems
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Yep I'm the same way I could probly set my phone up with my eyes closed I've done it so many times at lest I'm on rogers and don't need to put my apns in.
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Yep I'm the same way I could probly set my phone up with my eyes closed I've done it so many times at lest I'm on rogers and don't need to put my apns in.
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I'm on att and never have to mess with apn. Not once in hundreds, maybe thousands of flashes.
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xcrazydx said:
I remember exactly how my phone is setup. 30 minutes max and I'm all done from scratch.
I never restore anything from anywhere, it causes nothing but problems
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I've only ever restored the user data and that seems to work okay. I guess another question would be how often do you do a fresh flash? Unless I encounter problems, I usually just dirty flash.
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I've only ever restored the user data and that seems to work okay. I guess another question would be how often do you do a fresh flash? Unless I encounter problems, I usually just dirty flash.
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Same, although my number of flashes is definitely not close to yours
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I have a backup of all the user and system data on a CM10.1 nightly (3/16, not that it really matters) and was going to do a clean flash of the most recent nightly. Is it safe to restore the system data after flashing the ROM? I assume this is where all my ROM settings, homescreen layouts, etc. are stored. I've seen a lot of threads where people say not to restore the system data, but I wouldn't think that would be an issue going from one nightly to another on the same ROM.
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Clean flash + restore data = dirty flash
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I never understood why Titanium Backup didn't explain that better. The app rocks but they make it sound like a lazy man's restore tool lol
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Oh, I thought it just meant not doing the wipe data/factory reset step when installing the ROM, though I do see your point that restoring data over a clean ROM would be essentially a dirty flash. What about when you're just restoring user data and not any system data?
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Oh, I thought it just meant not doing the wipe data/factory reset step when installing the ROM, though I do see your point that restoring data over a clean ROM would be essentially a dirty flash. What about when you're just restoring user data and not any system data?
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Clean flash every time, or you're gonna be one of the dummies making stupid threads about why your apps fc, and blaming the Rom for your mistakes.
Yes dirty flashes work sometimes, but for noobs it causes problems.
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Oh, I thought it just meant not doing the wipe data/factory reset step when installing the ROM, though I do see your point that restoring data over a clean ROM would be essentially a dirty flash. What about when you're just restoring user data and not any system data?
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Restoring the data for user apps via titanium backup is usually OK. I am yet to experience any issues doing so.
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I am curious to know what other people do to restore apps and associated data. Do you go to market and download all from "my apps" or do you restore from an app backup? Or is there a better way? Can you help a noob out?
Thanks
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titanium backup pro. i wouldnt have it any other way
Titanium backup pro...
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So you just restore app+data? That's what I did, just wasn't sure if there was a better way. And a big thank you, I love your ROM.
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Basically that will do it.
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geologistguy said:
So you just restore app+data? That's what I did, just wasn't sure if there was a better way. And a big thank you, I love your ROM.
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thank you.
yes, just restore missing apps+data. thats all i do.
Sometimes restoring data will cause issues when you flash new roms and the apps might now work properly. I always just flash Apps and then take like 10 minutes to set all the apps up again to be safe after every flash.
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Sometimes restoring data will cause issues when you flash new roms and the apps might now work properly. I always just flash Apps and then take like 10 minutes to set all the apps up again to be safe after every flash.
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restoring MISSING apps and data has NEVER been a problem with me. you dont even want to know how many devices i have transferred my TiBu folder to, and restoring MISSING apps and data has not caused ONE issue, as long as I didnt go crazy and NOT go through and verify i wasnt restoring something Touchwiz related on my Sense ROM, or AOSP on my Touchwiz...etc.
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restoring MISSING apps and data has NEVER been a problem with me. you dont even want to know how many devices i have transferred my TiBu folder to, and restoring MISSING apps and data has not caused ONE issue, as long as I didnt go crazy and NOT go through and verify i wasnt restoring something Touchwiz related on my Sense ROM, or AOSP on my Touchwiz...etc.
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Well I am just glad to know that I am not doing something that will mess up my ROM. I was nervous enough flashing the first time.
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I agree TIBU restore apps and app data and be done. Only a few times the app data isn't restored when going from sense, touchwiz to a CM based rom but never had other issues. Flash rom the. Restore apps and data fro. TIBU pro and walk away whole it restores.
I don't bother backing up anything besides my contacts. I restore those first, connect my necessary accounts, and change whatever settings I need/want changed. Then I reinstall my apps.
Well, I agree 100% with Zel and Pirateghost there....Titanium Backup and later restore missing apps and data. As good practice, usually make nandroid back ups just in case.
The first time you flash a new rom is inevitable to sweat as a pig thinking that you will have to go back to your Motorla V3 is something goes wrong....
I don't flash as often as I used to so I use a newly flashed Rom to only reinstall the apps I actually use often. If not ill have a bunch of them I just downloaded and I'm not gonna use.
Plus reinstalling the apps myself and not titanium gives me a fresh Rom feeling lol, yea I'm weird.
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I use very few apps myself, anyway, so it only takes a few minutes to set back up after a reflash. Most of those apps, I keep pretty close to default regardless. I run pretty minimal, so it's almost more trouble to take the time to keep everything backed up and organized for my devices than it is to just reinstall the apps each time I flash.
The posts here have given me a bit more to think about as far as TIBU, though, so I might take a deeper look into it soon!
Personally after flashing a rom I cook a slab of Bacon then shower. I then tibu my apps and launcher settings. You can imagine how much grease I take in while we are testing a new rom before release.
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod
cwhitney24 said:
Personally after flashing a rom I cook a slab of Bacon then shower. I then tibu my apps and launcher settings. You can imagine how much grease I take in while we are testing a new rom before release.
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Thank you Bacon-Pope, your comments are (as usual) greasy, crispy, and delicious. Remember Turkey Bacon is neither turkey nor bacon.
after flashing
first thing I do after flashing is check WiFi phone mobile data camera then worry any apps. but I do use titanium backup and never had a problem. maybe I'm the weird one?
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geologistguy said:
I am curious to know what other people do to restore apps and associated data. Do you go to market and download all from "my apps" or do you restore from an app backup? Or is there a better way? Can you help a noob out?
Thanks
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Titanium backup pro is the only app I will use to backup/restore.
ROM Toolbox Pro has EVERYTHING you'll ever need as a root user, all packaged in one epic app.
http://db.tt/ROEU49gs
Enjoy^_^
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What would happen if I didn't wipe before flashing? And do I need to flash the 12.2 kernel
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I'm not sure what would happen. It would probably be less stable or not work... You could always try it though.
You do not need to flash any kernel. Only flash LeanKernel if you want to. If you don't want to mess with BusyBox, I'd wait on the kernel.
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From my experience on other devices when flashing ROMs and not wiping I would almost always bootloop. Again that is my general experience. I would assume there would be similar results.
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I usually backup the current ROM first, then factory reset before wiping cache. I end up with good results that way. The only time I installed a ROM without wiping, it was unstable.
Well, I tried flashing it, and it seemed to work. This is without the wipe.. But the only thing I found incorrect was that the wifi notification didn't go away. That was an easy fix though.
Should the battery life be noticeably better?
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Yeah I was kind of retarded the other day and forgot to wipe.:laugh: I was greeted with a nice bootloop until I pulled the battery and tried again (this time the correct way) then everything worked great..
I haven't wiped for any of the Synergy builds and my phone is running great Running Imos kernel too. Awesome battery life from this thing
So.. Even though I didn't get a boot loop after flashing without the wipe... Do you guys think I should just wipe and flash again?
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I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but I'd say if it's working then leave it be..
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So.. Even though I didn't get a boot loop after flashing without the wipe... Do you guys think I should just wipe and flash again?
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A wipe may not be completely necessary but if you do run into problems (FCs, etc.) and post a problem the devs or users are going to ask if you did a full wipe or not - and then recommend that you do one. In the end it wouldn't hurt to wipe even if you are fully functional.
I used to hate wiping all the time but with the proper backup applications it doesn't take long at all. I use Titanium Backup to backup apps and then also do in app backups for specific things like nova launcher, minimalistic text, and gosms,
Just a quick pointer here, I've seen a lot of questions regarding removing or uninstalling a flashed in theme with inaccurate or poor answers on how to do it with the most common answer of reverting back to nandroid backup and starting over. That will work, but is completely unnecessary and alot of time/work to do that.
Here's the simple easy fool proof way to remove a theme if you don't like it:
Go into recovery, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, DO NOT do a full wipe, re flash CURRENT rom zip, reboot. Theme will then be gone, without any reconfiguring of your setup. That's it.
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Just a quick pointer here, I've seen a lot of questions regarding removing or uninstalling a flashed in theme with inaccurate or poor answers on how to do it with the most common answer of reverting back to nandroid backup and starting over. That will work, but is completely unnecessary and alot of time/work to do that.
Here's the simple easy fool proof way to remove a theme if you don't like it:
Go into recovery, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, DO NOT do a full wipe, re flash CURRENT rom zip, reboot. Theme will then be gone, without any reconfiguring of your setup. That's it.
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Not that I disagree but how is this less work then restoring a nandoid? If they made a backup right before flashing the theme they dont have to reconfig any of the setup stuff either.
True, stated as if the nandroid was of a different rom/configuration, not just made. But who wants to wait all that time to create, restore a nandroid? I don't!
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True, stated as if the nandroid was of a different rom/configuration, not just made. But who wants to wait all that time to create, restore a nandroid? I don't!
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Also if you restore a nandroid you would lose a bit of saved data for say....a game or what not. (Basically if you've progressed in a game since you made the nandroid).
Reflashing the rom with out wiping data is the best theme removal in my honest opinion.
I agree, I do not wipe my data cache or dakvik, just flash the rom. I only stated to do those wipes so that there would be a "cleaner" flash of the rom, like flashing a nightly. That way I don't have to get flak if something goes wrong for someone, as unlikely as that may be.
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So my phone has been randomly rebooting and sleeping indefinitely quite often over the past two weeks. I was just wondering if there is a simple fix to this that won't require any backup or anything. It isn't a huge deal to me right now, and if it requires backing up things then I will probably just wait until I'm ready to do a full ROM wipe and re-install.
Why can't you do a backup in your recovery. You must have a custom recovery if you're thinking of a clean rom install. Back it up and do a factory reset.
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As I stated in the original post, if there isn't a solution that doesn't require a backup, then I will just do a clean install when I get around to it. Right now, I'm just looking for general trouble shooting that may lead to a quick fix.
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I don't think there is one other than reboot. You can try to clear the caches in recovery and that may help
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If I clear something such as the dalvik cache, will I lose anything like text messages or contacts?
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Contacts, no. I'm not sure on the text messages.
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Trent2011 said:
So my phone has been randomly rebooting and sleeping indefinitely quite often over the past two weeks. I was just wondering if there is a simple fix to this that won't require any backup or anything. It isn't a huge deal to me right now, and if it requires backing up things then I will probably just wait until I'm ready to do a full ROM wipe and re-install.
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Do a full wipe and reinstall with a updated ROM or new DL of the old one. Backup your contacts of course but if you want to do something simple then boot into recovery a wipe cache then dalvik then fix permissions
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If I clear something such as the dalvik cache, will I lose anything like text messages or contacts?
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no, you will lose nothing when clearing both caches, it cleans the cobwebs out, very safe todo and recommended, but wont solve every issue, recomendation is to start fresh with the issues you have, what rom are you on now
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no, you will lose nothing when clearing both caches, it cleans the cobwebs out, very safe todo and recommended, but wont solve every issue, recomendation is to start fresh with the issues you have, what rom are you on now
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I figured as much, but I just really don't feel like doing a full, fresh start. I'm not sure exactly which ROM anymore. I've been running it for over 6 months and I think it was basically a beta type thing when I installed. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long without a full wipe.
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I figured as much, but I just really don't feel like doing a full, fresh start. I'm not sure exactly which ROM anymore. I've been running it for over 6 months and I think it was basically a beta type thing when I installed. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long without a full wipe.
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goto settings>about to see what rom you are on
the reason to start fresh is to check for hardware problems
there is no quick fix for what you have
As it turns out, my problem was a usb cable that was shorting out. I finally noticed that it happened almost every time I plugged the cable in to charge the phone. As soon as I plugged it in, the phone would freeze and then black screen.
Hello
Do a fair bit of flashing/re-flashing of roms. Having to reconfigure all app settings, restoring text messages is a bit of a pain/slight annoyance
Could I just reflash a new rom (i always do a wipe beforehand) and then just restore the data partition from recovery? Or is it better to restore from titanium etc?
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Do a fair bit of flashing/re-flashing of roms. Having to reconfigure all app settings, restoring text messages is a bit of a pain/slight annoyance
Could I just reflash a new rom (i always do a wipe beforehand) and then just restore the data partition from recovery? Or is it better to restore from titanium etc?
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I'm not sure if that would be stable unless it was restored to the same Rom/version. I'd stick with titanium. But from experience it's iffy at best working correctly
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You can use nandroid manager if you don't like titanium but yeah restoring data is like you didn't even wipe it in the first place. It may work AOSP>AOSP and Sense>Sense but AOSP>Sense and vice versa likely won't work at all or you'll have ridiculous fc's.
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I highly recommend Titanium. It's super fast and easy to restore everything once you get used to it. I'd be much more hesitant to flash ROMs frequently without it. You should also consider dropping the six bucks for the paid version to support the developers of the app. It's more than worth it - one of the top 5 apps any rooted user should have.
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Titanium ftw.
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I'm with all the above, use Titanium for restoring apps and app data.
Restoring the data partition is almost sure to result in random and severe bugs (unless the new ROM is very similar to the previous). As said, its like not wiping (factory reset) at all.