What would happen if I didn't wipe before flashing? And do I need to flash the 12.2 kernel
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I'm not sure what would happen. It would probably be less stable or not work... You could always try it though.
You do not need to flash any kernel. Only flash LeanKernel if you want to. If you don't want to mess with BusyBox, I'd wait on the kernel.
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From my experience on other devices when flashing ROMs and not wiping I would almost always bootloop. Again that is my general experience. I would assume there would be similar results.
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I usually backup the current ROM first, then factory reset before wiping cache. I end up with good results that way. The only time I installed a ROM without wiping, it was unstable.
Well, I tried flashing it, and it seemed to work. This is without the wipe.. But the only thing I found incorrect was that the wifi notification didn't go away. That was an easy fix though.
Should the battery life be noticeably better?
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Yeah I was kind of retarded the other day and forgot to wipe.:laugh: I was greeted with a nice bootloop until I pulled the battery and tried again (this time the correct way) then everything worked great..
I haven't wiped for any of the Synergy builds and my phone is running great Running Imos kernel too. Awesome battery life from this thing
So.. Even though I didn't get a boot loop after flashing without the wipe... Do you guys think I should just wipe and flash again?
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I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but I'd say if it's working then leave it be..
ahlexkim said:
So.. Even though I didn't get a boot loop after flashing without the wipe... Do you guys think I should just wipe and flash again?
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A wipe may not be completely necessary but if you do run into problems (FCs, etc.) and post a problem the devs or users are going to ask if you did a full wipe or not - and then recommend that you do one. In the end it wouldn't hurt to wipe even if you are fully functional.
I used to hate wiping all the time but with the proper backup applications it doesn't take long at all. I use Titanium Backup to backup apps and then also do in app backups for specific things like nova launcher, minimalistic text, and gosms,
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I'm kinda new at this but I switched my rom and kernal to lotherius 2.3.4 and was wondering if I need to switch my kernal back to stock or keep it... I want to switch to eaglesblood and don't wanna brick my phone once again (have one being used as a paper weight right now)
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I'm kinda new at this but I switched my rom and kernal to lotherius 2.3.4 and was wondering if I need to switch my kernal back to stock or keep it... I want to switch to eaglesblood and don't wanna brick my phone once again (have one being used as a paper weight right now)
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Every ROM should have a kernel cooked into it (99% of the time). Your phone will not boot if it lacks a kernel. When you flash a new ROM ensure you factory reset, wipe cache, and format system before flashing the new ROM. The only time you need to worry about flashing a kernel on a ROM is if you would like to change it, or in the rare case, if it lacks one.
Thanks so much :thumbup:
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Thanks so much :thumbup:
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No worries man, I know what it's like to be unsure and its irritating. Just make sure to backup any apps you have, because wiping obviously will return the phone back to "stock" thus lacking apps and current system settings (alarm ect.)
Edit: I recommend titanium backup for backing up and restoring apps.
Cool one more question if u have the time. I went to install the new Tom and clockworkmod tells me it can't mount system I looked around on the fourms and could find a solid solution.?
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Cool one more question if u have the time. I went to install the new Tom and clockworkmod tells me it can't mount system I looked around on the fourms and could find a solid solution.?
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Are you using ROM Manager? If so, that may be why... it has been buggy for a while it seems, but I always flash manually so I wouldn't know where it's at now. Boot into recovery by holding power and volume down (when the phone is off) and let go when the LG logo changes to another logo. From there do the three wipes (factory reset, cache, and format system) then flash ROM and reboot. (Format system is under mounts on the main screen)
K trying today ur a life saver
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Just a quick pointer here, I've seen a lot of questions regarding removing or uninstalling a flashed in theme with inaccurate or poor answers on how to do it with the most common answer of reverting back to nandroid backup and starting over. That will work, but is completely unnecessary and alot of time/work to do that.
Here's the simple easy fool proof way to remove a theme if you don't like it:
Go into recovery, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, DO NOT do a full wipe, re flash CURRENT rom zip, reboot. Theme will then be gone, without any reconfiguring of your setup. That's it.
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Just a quick pointer here, I've seen a lot of questions regarding removing or uninstalling a flashed in theme with inaccurate or poor answers on how to do it with the most common answer of reverting back to nandroid backup and starting over. That will work, but is completely unnecessary and alot of time/work to do that.
Here's the simple easy fool proof way to remove a theme if you don't like it:
Go into recovery, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, DO NOT do a full wipe, re flash CURRENT rom zip, reboot. Theme will then be gone, without any reconfiguring of your setup. That's it.
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Not that I disagree but how is this less work then restoring a nandoid? If they made a backup right before flashing the theme they dont have to reconfig any of the setup stuff either.
True, stated as if the nandroid was of a different rom/configuration, not just made. But who wants to wait all that time to create, restore a nandroid? I don't!
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True, stated as if the nandroid was of a different rom/configuration, not just made. But who wants to wait all that time to create, restore a nandroid? I don't!
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Also if you restore a nandroid you would lose a bit of saved data for say....a game or what not. (Basically if you've progressed in a game since you made the nandroid).
Reflashing the rom with out wiping data is the best theme removal in my honest opinion.
I agree, I do not wipe my data cache or dakvik, just flash the rom. I only stated to do those wipes so that there would be a "cleaner" flash of the rom, like flashing a nightly. That way I don't have to get flak if something goes wrong for someone, as unlikely as that may be.
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Okay, my issues started when I switched to the baked rom. I had gotten google now working fairly well on ICS. After I switched the voice recognition just hears me as background noise. It will listen then just go back to the tap the mic to speak screen. No searching. No crashing. Nothing. I even tried switching to cyanogenmod 10. Exact same issue. I think the offline voice files might be corrupted. Does anyone know if I might be right and if so how I can delete them?
P.S.- I always do a clean install. Factory reset, clear data in CWM, clear cache (for redundancy), clear dalvik cache.
Thank you in advance.
sincerely
- Someone clearly missing something obvious.
I know that in CM10 they say the issue is because its using the mic on the top of the device instead of the one on the bottom, and the top one is normally for noise cancelling. Try speaking into the mic at the top and see if it helps. Beyond that I can't give you any help.
I tried your idea. Nothing. Did ANOTHER clean install. Nothing. Did your idea with the clean install. Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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jlm123hi said:
I tried your idea. Nothing. Did ANOTHER clean install. Nothing. Did your idea with the clean install. Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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You are still dirty flashing. A clean flash involves formatting system. That is where old rom is located and why phone will reboot after factory reset, dalvic and cache wipe. A clean wipe will not boot since there is no longer an OS/ROM on device.
I know what a clean install is. I have been doing it. I tried his idea AFTER I did another clean install and it worked fine.
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What prdog1 is telling you is that you are actually not doing a clean install. Factory reset/data does not remove the original rom partioned on your sd. In order to have a true clean install you need to go into mounts+storage and format the system. That removes the old rom so flashing the new one is truly a clean install. Your technically doing a dirty flash still, which is generally fine when loading the same rom base.
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Oh. That helps to explain him better. Wow I've been doing it wrong for years. Lucky for me this is the first time I've had problems. Thanks for the info!
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Oh. That helps to explain him better. Wow I've been doing it wrong for years. Lucky for me this is the first time I've had problems. Thanks for the info!
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This is the reason many people have problems that the majority don't have. Flashing different rom bases on top of each other can corrupt the rom and no one can troubleshoot the answer unless it is a rom bug that the majority has. Factory reset, cache and dalvic wipes help eliminate apps and data problems.
So my phone has been randomly rebooting and sleeping indefinitely quite often over the past two weeks. I was just wondering if there is a simple fix to this that won't require any backup or anything. It isn't a huge deal to me right now, and if it requires backing up things then I will probably just wait until I'm ready to do a full ROM wipe and re-install.
Why can't you do a backup in your recovery. You must have a custom recovery if you're thinking of a clean rom install. Back it up and do a factory reset.
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As I stated in the original post, if there isn't a solution that doesn't require a backup, then I will just do a clean install when I get around to it. Right now, I'm just looking for general trouble shooting that may lead to a quick fix.
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I don't think there is one other than reboot. You can try to clear the caches in recovery and that may help
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If I clear something such as the dalvik cache, will I lose anything like text messages or contacts?
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Contacts, no. I'm not sure on the text messages.
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Trent2011 said:
So my phone has been randomly rebooting and sleeping indefinitely quite often over the past two weeks. I was just wondering if there is a simple fix to this that won't require any backup or anything. It isn't a huge deal to me right now, and if it requires backing up things then I will probably just wait until I'm ready to do a full ROM wipe and re-install.
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Do a full wipe and reinstall with a updated ROM or new DL of the old one. Backup your contacts of course but if you want to do something simple then boot into recovery a wipe cache then dalvik then fix permissions
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Trent2011 said:
If I clear something such as the dalvik cache, will I lose anything like text messages or contacts?
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no, you will lose nothing when clearing both caches, it cleans the cobwebs out, very safe todo and recommended, but wont solve every issue, recomendation is to start fresh with the issues you have, what rom are you on now
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no, you will lose nothing when clearing both caches, it cleans the cobwebs out, very safe todo and recommended, but wont solve every issue, recomendation is to start fresh with the issues you have, what rom are you on now
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I figured as much, but I just really don't feel like doing a full, fresh start. I'm not sure exactly which ROM anymore. I've been running it for over 6 months and I think it was basically a beta type thing when I installed. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long without a full wipe.
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I figured as much, but I just really don't feel like doing a full, fresh start. I'm not sure exactly which ROM anymore. I've been running it for over 6 months and I think it was basically a beta type thing when I installed. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long without a full wipe.
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goto settings>about to see what rom you are on
the reason to start fresh is to check for hardware problems
there is no quick fix for what you have
As it turns out, my problem was a usb cable that was shorting out. I finally noticed that it happened almost every time I plugged the cable in to charge the phone. As soon as I plugged it in, the phone would freeze and then black screen.
Hey Guys - I am out of ideas and think my run with the charge might be coming to an end.
My phone is running FP8 stock ROM, rooted, with some apps frozen using TiBu. I have not issues with this set up since the update was pushed. I used tweak for a year or so, then went back to stock for FP8.
A few days ago my phone started to act weird. Widgets were not updating, apps randomly force closing. It was annoying but still usable. I decided to do a factory reset and then everything hit the fan. When I boot up the phone every app on my phone force closes and it is not usable. The "Setup Wizard" also force closes so I can not even get past that.
I have tried flashing other ROMs including Eclipse, tweaked, EP4 with pit, etc.The flash is successful but the force closes persist. I have also tried wiping data through stock recovery and CWM, but I do not think it works. I still see force close errors when the phone boots of apps that should have been wiped (twitter,TiBu, etc.). Anything else I can try? Pretty desperate as it looks like this thing might be toast.
Cliffs
Phone acting weird, reset data multiple times and everything force closes. Phone is not usable at all.
Tried wiping data but does not seem to work, downloaded apps still force close
Flashed different ROMS (both stock w/ pit and custom)
Still force closing. Help?
If the force closes are persisting even though data is wiped, you may have something nasty sticking around through dirty flashes (assuming you're flashing over the old). Make sure you clear all caches and if that doesn't work, it's a shot in the dark but you may want to try formatting the system partition through CWM and then reinstalling FP8 or whatever custom ROM you want. Whatever you do have backups ready...
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If the force closes are persisting even though data is wiped, you may have something nasty sticking around through dirty flashes (assuming you're flashing over the old). Make sure you clear all caches and if that doesn't work, it's a shot in the dark but you may want to try formatting the system partition through CWM and then reinstalling FP8 or whatever custom ROM you want. Whatever you do have backups ready...
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Thanks for the idea. I am pretty sure I have already tried this but through CWM I will clear cache, davlik cache, data, and format system then try a flash of stock with .pit
Like you said, it seems like whatever is causing this is still sticking around even after all this clearing/flashing. Is there any way to clear these things through adb? Or would getting a log be worth my time?
If all else fails try odin.
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If all else fails try odin.
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I have tried flashing ROMS (stock and custom) through ODIN and to no avail. I am able to flash but it still does not overwrite the corrupted data. I still get force close errors for downloaded apps that should have been erased/over written. Even formatted my SD card just to be sure and didn't help.
Seems like my only option may be to somehow find and delete the data through ADB. Clearing through CVM and stock recovery is not doing anything. Problem is I do not know where this old/bad data is!
SamsungPST?
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SamsungPST?
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Never heard of PST when you posted that. Good idea, but I just tried a few flashes and the effect was no different than ODIN/CWM
This problem keeps getting weirder. So sometimes I am able to get through into the phone (even though I get force close pop ups every 2 seconds). I was able to uninstall most of the apps causing the FCs (not all because some are the system apps).
However, everytime the phone reboots the apps come back! Where in the hell are they being cached/stored to just magically re-appear after data wipes/flashes/un-installs. Seems like I have all these corrupted apps that I can not get rid of. Through terminal emulator I cleared data, and davlik but didn't help.
Have you pulled your sd card and sim then checked if it would boot. Also wipe internal sd from stock recovery
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Have you pulled your sd card and sim then checked if it would boot. Also wipe internal sd from stock recovery
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Yea, eventually I can get it to boot but the phone is not usable with all the force closing. The option to clear internal SD only seems to be available for the older ROMS, but I flashed ED1 and cleared it. No luck.
Think I may just be out of ideas on this one...
Pray to jeebus, might be your last option
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Have you gone into Settings, Accounts & Sync and turned everything off? If you are back to stock then this could be the cause of restore of the apps. You are using the full EP4 odin - rom, kernel and radios - correct?
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Have you gone into Settings, Accounts & Sync and turned everything off? If you are back to stock then this could be the cause of restore of the apps. You are using the full EP4 odin - rom, kernel and radios - correct?
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Yep I have turned them off. My settings also get reset however when I clear data, reboot, re flash etc.
Good question about the full EP4 ODIN. I have been using the ones from imnuts website, and have also tried the CWM packages from kvswim's thread in the development section. Tried Eclipse Beta 2 & EP4,EE4,ED1, FP8 stock. I also tried the CM10 ROM just to see if the change to ext file system would do anything. Not sure if any of them are labled as having rom,kernal and radios, but I would imagine at least a few of them are.
No matter what I do, I get outsmarted and all my corruped apps, settings and force closes remain.
I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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I was thinking it was a hardware failure to
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I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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To skip activation - on the setup screen click on the Emergency Dial button. Once at the dialer, dial:
*#TESTMODE (or *#83786633)
That will "enable the soft keys", making it so you can then hit home to get to the launcher without activating.
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To skip activation - on the setup screen click on the Emergency Dial button. Once at the dialer, dial:
*#TESTMODE (or *#83786633)
That will "enable the soft keys", making it so you can then hit home to get to the launcher without activating.
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Pretty cool! Didn't know I could do that. However once getting past that just about every app continues to force close including tw launcher.
Being that old apps & settings will continue to be restored after doing everything possible to get rid of them it must be a hardware issue.
Oh well, I will keep the phone around for the hell of it but guess it's time I look into something new.