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FC on any rom i use!

i been switching roms like CRAZY to find a stable one. i like the CM6 vanilla, Fresh 2.4.0, and NFX-Hero 2.2.1. those are my fav ive tested so far, ive tested several others as well.
I'm using RA-Heroc-v.1.5.2 Recovery mode. i have tried the clockwork recovery(that CM6 gives me) but its too buggy for me and annoying to use with so many unorganized things.
no matter what rom i use or either of those 2 recovery modes I've used. everything always force closes on the 2nd day of use. if anyone can give me tips of what i should do or what im doing wrong.

try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=650

lol....That was kinda messed up

do you wipe data, cache and ext?
you can try reformatting your sdcard and flashing fresh

ive deleleted all. there was like 5 things i can wipe i wiped em all. data, cache, ext, battery, rotate. still have issues.
edit: ive tried 3 diffrent SD cards. formatted em like 5 times each to see if i had any issues.

Wipe your davlik cache. You may have to ruu...
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done that a few times as well. gone back too 2.31.651.5 and re rooted about 10 times. cause i didn't know how to get back to RA-heroc-v1.5.2 any other way.

kyhassen said:
done that a few times as well. gone back too 2.31.651.5 and re rooted about 10 times. cause i didn't know how to get back to RA-heroc-v1.5.2 any other way.
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Hmm. Sorry I can't help. I've had similar problems but starting fresh usually fixes them.
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billodell said:
Hmm. Sorry I can't help. I've had similar problems but starting fresh usually fixes them.
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k well ty for trying

Your welcome:0)
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i noticed a few diffrent ways to root the phone. would this one be why im having so many issues.
http://www.machackpc.com/featured/how-to-root-your-cdma-htc-hero-running-android-2-1-windows/

you might ruu your phone back to .5 and then from your phone go to unrevoked.com or do a search in market for 1-click root. Read HERE about it. IDK if thats why, but have you tried fix apk UID mismatches. I think its found under Other in amonRA recovery.

i will try those ideas tomorrow. thank you. i heard of the 1-click root. but i heard its a virus and could possible ruin your phone, i could be wrong but its just a something i saw.

kyhassen said:
i will try those ideas tomorrow. thank you. i heard of the 1-click root. but i heard its a virus and could possible ruin your phone, i could be wrong but its just a something i saw.
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I think that the exploit it uses can also be used by malicious apps ice it is used to root. Don't think its a virus though
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Did a factory reset all is running better!!!

Did a factory reset all is running better!!!
Has anyone else noticed this?
Batter is lasting longer. Phone also more responsive.
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
Did a factory reset all is running better!!!
Has anyone else noticed this?
Batter is lasting longer. Phone also more responsive.
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Thanks for sharing, others have reported similar results. Thankfully mine is fine as it is. Stock ROM rooted.

I was wondering, since I'm rooted running stock ROM and I wanted to do a factory reset, can I just reset to factory settings and still be rooted or do I have to root again?

jacob808 said:
I was wondering, since I'm rooted running stock ROM and I wanted to do a factory reset, can I just reset to factory settings and still be rooted or do I have to root again?
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You'll lose root if you wipe your internal and external SD card.
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drumsforjs said:
You'll lose root if you wipe your internal and external SD card.
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but doing factory reset will erase both? I used superoneclick and I thought it was permanent root? What are ppl talking about when they say they want to return phone to tmobile but they have to unroot. Can't they just factory reset then? and if I just factory reset while I'm rooted will it damage the phone in anyway?

Mine was still rooted.
Superuser was in APP drawer after factory reset.
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
Mine was still rooted.
Superuser was in APP drawer after factory reset.
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So I can just go straight to settings> privacy> factory reset, click it and it'll delete all my installed apps, revert me back to how it was out of the box, but still be rooted with the necessary apps like superuser installed?
I got to many apps no memory and somethings draining my battery quick, so definitely I need to reformat...

jacob808 said:
So I can just go straight to settings> privacy> factory reset, click it and it'll delete all my installed apps, revert me back to how it was out of the box, but still be rooted with the necessary apps like superuser installed?
I got to many apps no memory and somethings draining my battery quick, so definitely I need to reformat...
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Correct. ROOT is a part of SYSTEM. SYSTEM doesn't get touched during a reset, only DATA.

derekedw said:
Correct. ROOT is a part of SYSTEM. SYSTEM doesn't get touched during a reset, only DATA.
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+1 yes sir

Battery is running way better. I am getting 10-12 hours on a full charge, Using it in the same ways I was using it before the factory reset. I also mostly on WI-FI at home and at work.
Tonight I try just my phones data no WI-FI. That way I see if the 4G kills the battery quicker.
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This happened for me also. I can get about 30 with light use and about 20 or so with my typical use. Prior to the reset I was only getting about 10 to 13
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The most I get is 20 hours.
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If you do not do a backup does that matter as far as apps? I would assume that once you log back into your account you'll have access to those apps. I don't have any custom settings just running rooted stock.
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I used APP MONSTER and TITANIUM BACKUP. I also made manual backup from my phone and memory card to my laptop.
I like APP MONSTER, Because it has a setting to make a backup of APP every time you install a APP.
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I went through with this, and my battery last way longer because I don't have all those apps. Infact without Juice Defender, I'm getting even better battery life. I also reformatted both internal and external memory. The phone feels bare, and I'm just gonna install things I actually find useful.
Again I notice better battery life without Juice defender, don't know if juice defender was draining more battery or not but better battery life.

I am aslo running only what's needed also. I have apps backup in my SD card. That I can install at any time.
No rebooting yet or phone being unresponsive.
It did freeze once because it was really hot @ 120°F.
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Google now issues

Okay, my issues started when I switched to the baked rom. I had gotten google now working fairly well on ICS. After I switched the voice recognition just hears me as background noise. It will listen then just go back to the tap the mic to speak screen. No searching. No crashing. Nothing. I even tried switching to cyanogenmod 10. Exact same issue. I think the offline voice files might be corrupted. Does anyone know if I might be right and if so how I can delete them?
P.S.- I always do a clean install. Factory reset, clear data in CWM, clear cache (for redundancy), clear dalvik cache.
Thank you in advance.
sincerely
- Someone clearly missing something obvious.

I know that in CM10 they say the issue is because its using the mic on the top of the device instead of the one on the bottom, and the top one is normally for noise cancelling. Try speaking into the mic at the top and see if it helps. Beyond that I can't give you any help.

I tried your idea. Nothing. Did ANOTHER clean install. Nothing. Did your idea with the clean install. Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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jlm123hi said:
I tried your idea. Nothing. Did ANOTHER clean install. Nothing. Did your idea with the clean install. Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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You are still dirty flashing. A clean flash involves formatting system. That is where old rom is located and why phone will reboot after factory reset, dalvic and cache wipe. A clean wipe will not boot since there is no longer an OS/ROM on device.

I know what a clean install is. I have been doing it. I tried his idea AFTER I did another clean install and it worked fine.
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What prdog1 is telling you is that you are actually not doing a clean install. Factory reset/data does not remove the original rom partioned on your sd. In order to have a true clean install you need to go into mounts+storage and format the system. That removes the old rom so flashing the new one is truly a clean install. Your technically doing a dirty flash still, which is generally fine when loading the same rom base.
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Oh. That helps to explain him better. Wow I've been doing it wrong for years. Lucky for me this is the first time I've had problems. Thanks for the info!
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jlm123hi said:
Oh. That helps to explain him better. Wow I've been doing it wrong for years. Lucky for me this is the first time I've had problems. Thanks for the info!
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This is the reason many people have problems that the majority don't have. Flashing different rom bases on top of each other can corrupt the rom and no one can troubleshoot the answer unless it is a rom bug that the majority has. Factory reset, cache and dalvic wipes help eliminate apps and data problems.

[Q] Rebooting Problem

So my phone has been randomly rebooting and sleeping indefinitely quite often over the past two weeks. I was just wondering if there is a simple fix to this that won't require any backup or anything. It isn't a huge deal to me right now, and if it requires backing up things then I will probably just wait until I'm ready to do a full ROM wipe and re-install.

Why can't you do a backup in your recovery. You must have a custom recovery if you're thinking of a clean rom install. Back it up and do a factory reset.
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As I stated in the original post, if there isn't a solution that doesn't require a backup, then I will just do a clean install when I get around to it. Right now, I'm just looking for general trouble shooting that may lead to a quick fix.
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I don't think there is one other than reboot. You can try to clear the caches in recovery and that may help
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If I clear something such as the dalvik cache, will I lose anything like text messages or contacts?
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Contacts, no. I'm not sure on the text messages.
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Trent2011 said:
So my phone has been randomly rebooting and sleeping indefinitely quite often over the past two weeks. I was just wondering if there is a simple fix to this that won't require any backup or anything. It isn't a huge deal to me right now, and if it requires backing up things then I will probably just wait until I'm ready to do a full ROM wipe and re-install.
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Do a full wipe and reinstall with a updated ROM or new DL of the old one. Backup your contacts of course but if you want to do something simple then boot into recovery a wipe cache then dalvik then fix permissions
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Trent2011 said:
If I clear something such as the dalvik cache, will I lose anything like text messages or contacts?
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no, you will lose nothing when clearing both caches, it cleans the cobwebs out, very safe todo and recommended, but wont solve every issue, recomendation is to start fresh with the issues you have, what rom are you on now

vincom said:
no, you will lose nothing when clearing both caches, it cleans the cobwebs out, very safe todo and recommended, but wont solve every issue, recomendation is to start fresh with the issues you have, what rom are you on now
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I figured as much, but I just really don't feel like doing a full, fresh start. I'm not sure exactly which ROM anymore. I've been running it for over 6 months and I think it was basically a beta type thing when I installed. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long without a full wipe.
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Trent2011 said:
I figured as much, but I just really don't feel like doing a full, fresh start. I'm not sure exactly which ROM anymore. I've been running it for over 6 months and I think it was basically a beta type thing when I installed. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long without a full wipe.
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goto settings>about to see what rom you are on
the reason to start fresh is to check for hardware problems
there is no quick fix for what you have

As it turns out, my problem was a usb cable that was shorting out. I finally noticed that it happened almost every time I plugged the cable in to charge the phone. As soon as I plugged it in, the phone would freeze and then black screen.

Force Close Loop (Bricked?)

Hey Guys - I am out of ideas and think my run with the charge might be coming to an end.
My phone is running FP8 stock ROM, rooted, with some apps frozen using TiBu. I have not issues with this set up since the update was pushed. I used tweak for a year or so, then went back to stock for FP8.
A few days ago my phone started to act weird. Widgets were not updating, apps randomly force closing. It was annoying but still usable. I decided to do a factory reset and then everything hit the fan. When I boot up the phone every app on my phone force closes and it is not usable. The "Setup Wizard" also force closes so I can not even get past that.
I have tried flashing other ROMs including Eclipse, tweaked, EP4 with pit, etc.The flash is successful but the force closes persist. I have also tried wiping data through stock recovery and CWM, but I do not think it works. I still see force close errors when the phone boots of apps that should have been wiped (twitter,TiBu, etc.). Anything else I can try? Pretty desperate as it looks like this thing might be toast.
Cliffs
Phone acting weird, reset data multiple times and everything force closes. Phone is not usable at all.
Tried wiping data but does not seem to work, downloaded apps still force close
Flashed different ROMS (both stock w/ pit and custom)
Still force closing. Help?

If the force closes are persisting even though data is wiped, you may have something nasty sticking around through dirty flashes (assuming you're flashing over the old). Make sure you clear all caches and if that doesn't work, it's a shot in the dark but you may want to try formatting the system partition through CWM and then reinstalling FP8 or whatever custom ROM you want. Whatever you do have backups ready...
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dejello said:
If the force closes are persisting even though data is wiped, you may have something nasty sticking around through dirty flashes (assuming you're flashing over the old). Make sure you clear all caches and if that doesn't work, it's a shot in the dark but you may want to try formatting the system partition through CWM and then reinstalling FP8 or whatever custom ROM you want. Whatever you do have backups ready...
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Thanks for the idea. I am pretty sure I have already tried this but through CWM I will clear cache, davlik cache, data, and format system then try a flash of stock with .pit
Like you said, it seems like whatever is causing this is still sticking around even after all this clearing/flashing. Is there any way to clear these things through adb? Or would getting a log be worth my time?

If all else fails try odin.
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If all else fails try odin.
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I have tried flashing ROMS (stock and custom) through ODIN and to no avail. I am able to flash but it still does not overwrite the corrupted data. I still get force close errors for downloaded apps that should have been erased/over written. Even formatted my SD card just to be sure and didn't help.
Seems like my only option may be to somehow find and delete the data through ADB. Clearing through CVM and stock recovery is not doing anything. Problem is I do not know where this old/bad data is!

SamsungPST?
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SamsungPST?
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Never heard of PST when you posted that. Good idea, but I just tried a few flashes and the effect was no different than ODIN/CWM
This problem keeps getting weirder. So sometimes I am able to get through into the phone (even though I get force close pop ups every 2 seconds). I was able to uninstall most of the apps causing the FCs (not all because some are the system apps).
However, everytime the phone reboots the apps come back! Where in the hell are they being cached/stored to just magically re-appear after data wipes/flashes/un-installs. Seems like I have all these corrupted apps that I can not get rid of. Through terminal emulator I cleared data, and davlik but didn't help.

Have you pulled your sd card and sim then checked if it would boot. Also wipe internal sd from stock recovery
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kintwofan said:
Have you pulled your sd card and sim then checked if it would boot. Also wipe internal sd from stock recovery
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Yea, eventually I can get it to boot but the phone is not usable with all the force closing. The option to clear internal SD only seems to be available for the older ROMS, but I flashed ED1 and cleared it. No luck.
Think I may just be out of ideas on this one...

Pray to jeebus, might be your last option
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Have you gone into Settings, Accounts & Sync and turned everything off? If you are back to stock then this could be the cause of restore of the apps. You are using the full EP4 odin - rom, kernel and radios - correct?
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Reilly1812 said:
Have you gone into Settings, Accounts & Sync and turned everything off? If you are back to stock then this could be the cause of restore of the apps. You are using the full EP4 odin - rom, kernel and radios - correct?
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Yep I have turned them off. My settings also get reset however when I clear data, reboot, re flash etc.
Good question about the full EP4 ODIN. I have been using the ones from imnuts website, and have also tried the CWM packages from kvswim's thread in the development section. Tried Eclipse Beta 2 & EP4,EE4,ED1, FP8 stock. I also tried the CM10 ROM just to see if the change to ext file system would do anything. Not sure if any of them are labled as having rom,kernal and radios, but I would imagine at least a few of them are.
No matter what I do, I get outsmarted and all my corruped apps, settings and force closes remain.

I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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Reilly1812 said:
I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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I was thinking it was a hardware failure to
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Reilly1812 said:
I think you can skip activation after flashing ep4 and still get the ota's to get to fp1, fp5 and finally fp8. once there try activation, etc. Keep it purely stock no root. still fc's? IMHO your phone storage is hosed.
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To skip activation - on the setup screen click on the Emergency Dial button. Once at the dialer, dial:
*#TESTMODE (or *#83786633)
That will "enable the soft keys", making it so you can then hit home to get to the launcher without activating.

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To skip activation - on the setup screen click on the Emergency Dial button. Once at the dialer, dial:
*#TESTMODE (or *#83786633)
That will "enable the soft keys", making it so you can then hit home to get to the launcher without activating.
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Pretty cool! Didn't know I could do that. However once getting past that just about every app continues to force close including tw launcher.
Being that old apps & settings will continue to be restored after doing everything possible to get rid of them it must be a hardware issue.
Oh well, I will keep the phone around for the hell of it but guess it's time I look into something new.