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WERE FREEEE! =) htc has quit its locked bootloader ways. We win
Proof?
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The CEO of HTC announced it.
Awesome! They probably come to realize how much of a bad idea it would be and what it would do to its sales and market share.
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It's true, I just read the press release. Nice to know HTC cares about the dev community.
I'll be a customer for life now.
To freakin cool!
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To freakin cool!
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HTC standing their ground. Love it.
Now the only thing holding them back is making devices for ATT...
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How does "making" devices for AT&T hold back HTC?
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Now the only thing holding them back is making devices for ATT...
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They make devices for other providers...switch. problem solved
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How does "making" devices for AT&T hold back HTC?
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Because AT&T Doesnt really like for people to make their device their "own" they want you to use the phone as is..
Now we know the htc holiday will come open and easy for roms!
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Because AT&T Doesnt really like for people to make their device their "own" they want you to use the phone as is..
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Not sure why people blame the carriers for this. Sure they would like you to pay for tethering but they obviously don't have a set policy. Devices range from Samsung which can be flashed without even rooting in some cases to Motorola with locked, signed, encrypted, blah blah. If the carriers were the ones making the decision on bootloaders then there would seem to be more consistency across manufacturers. Sprint even said publicly that they have no say in the matter and were deferring to HTC on the fate of the EVO 3d.
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Not sure why people blame the carriers for this. Sure they would like you to pay for tethering but they obviously don't have a set policy. Devices range from Samsung which can be flashed without even rooting in some cases to Motorola with locked, signed, encrypted, blah blah. If the carriers were the ones making the decision on bootloaders then there would seem to be more consistency across manufacturers. Sprint even said publicly that they have no say in the matter and were deferring to HTC on the fate of the EVO 3d.
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That may be true publicly but privately, I believe carriers heavily "encourage" manufacturers to lock the bl (perhaps even with incentives.)
Carriers defer to the manufacturers questions like this to avoid looking like the bad guy. Kinda like the hot-potato when it comes to OS upgrades.
Sprint: "We're waiting for HTC to get Froyo ready."
HTC: "We're waiting for Sprint to QA their custom apps and functionality."
HTC, you've made me and millions of other HTC users customers for life.
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I don't know about you guys...but I'm getting pretty sick of ATT and they are about to jack up their prices again...I'm just a pessimist, don't worry bout me
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Agreed att is nothing but money hungry eating sharks. I hate them personally but not their phones.
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codyperez86 said:
Agreed att is nothing but money hungry eating sharks. I hate them personally but not their phones.
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All the cell providers in America meet this definition...companies exist for the soul purpose of maoijf money and it just happens that at&t seems to not lose business no matter what they do so they don't have to appease customers. Simple as that.
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trell959 said:
HTC, you've made me and millions of other HTC users customers for life.
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+100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
(That's a lot, ain't it?)
That's ****ing *****in' news.
HTC, prepare to dominate.
w00t
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Could it be the case that its the update to 4.0.4? hmmmm I wonder???
That's going to suck if they actually ban our device.
It is not banning "our" device. If it happens, still a long shot, it will not really affect current users. They will not take your phone from you. Carriers will just have to stop selling, which probably still means they can deplete their current inventory as they have already been purchased from Samsung.
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That's going to suck if they actually ban our device.
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Look at it like this if they are ban from selling ,then the value if our device will go up due to the fact that u can't buy from the store anymore.
I wasn't meaning it as a problem for people with the device currently, I meant to say that I have a lot of friends my age looking and seeing all the things I do with my phone. They're all saving up to buy them and if they ban the T989 then my friends won't be able to purchase via stores.
Sammy's guys are much more smart than apple developers, we will be resting while Sammy is creating the champion phones they always have. Apple complaint about similarities. Sammy is not going to make similar phones to apple smartphone in theory. But if apple revolutionizes everything to be more convenient then Samsung must use power instead of convenience. If apple is commercial, Samsung must be the people's phone, easy enough? If apple make fast phones Samsung should be elegant or if apple makes the stable phone then same should make the surprising phone. If apple wants all the money then Samsung should have more interest in phones and their appearance for the better of the lawsuits and a efficient resolution to forward production in the next line of phones.
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You guys can always take a trip up here to Canada. None of that garbage that Apple is pulling applies here, and we have the same phones to purchase. Peace.
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You guys can always take a trip up here to Canada. None of that garbage that Apple is pulling applies here, and we have the same phones to purchase. Peace.
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Looks like we have a place to stay???
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suaverc118 said:
Looks like we have a place to stay???
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Lol, sure suaverc118 you are welcome to visit
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regardless of the outcome it wont matter to us that already purchased it.
it only affects the remaining inventory at store level, just a minor GUI change and all issues are solved with a new ROM
Walmart has them on sale for 99.98 when you add a new line.. as seen yesterday when I got me pups sum food...and they have the s3 for 179.98. Someone posted in another thread that they have the s2 for 179.99 at Sams club full price. So who knows
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Just found out that ISIS is not compatible with the Verizon Galaxy S3! How stupid can you be, their top selling phone next to the iPhone and you are starting off a service by not making a top phone compatible? Who ever is in charge of ISIS should be fired.
It is possible to do as TMobile has made it possible. Instead Verizon has terrible phones that basically no one buys available to the service.
Just disgusts me.
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So Vzw cripples the s3 from using Google wallet and to top it off Vzw's homebrew wallet won't work talk about stuck
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that is the thing I don't understand. One of if not your best selling handset you don't have available at this launch? Really? Terrible
Welcome to Verizon. Enjoy your stay.
Samsung Galaxy S3
Did you go into Verizon and get a new SIM for it? I had to do that on AT&T and ISIS works for me now. (fully stock s3)
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Just found out that ISIS is not compatible with the Verizon Galaxy S3! How stupid can you be, their top selling phone next to the iPhone and you are starting off a service by not making a top phone compatible? Who ever is in charge of ISIS should be fired.
It is possible to do as TMobile has made it possible. Instead Verizon has terrible phones that basically no one buys available to the service.
Just disgusts me.
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All you need is a new SIM.
i called the local verizon store here and they said no, the S3 will not work with the new sim yet. Are you guys hearing something different?
Yet another example of the stupidity, fragmentation and stuff that doesn't work in Android. The carriers decide how to squeeze every last dollar out of users, Google doesn't bother to enforce anything and only cares about Nexus, oem's ignore Android standards.
Just watch while next year Apple comes out with its own branded NFC system and everyone will fall over backwards trying to support it. Then we can whine and moan about how 'Android did it years ago' while Apple will get a patent, millions of users overnight, and become the standard.
Apparently the only Verizon phone to support it is the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
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Apparently the only Verizon phone to support it is the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
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This is what I thought. I also thought it unethical for Verizon to block Google wallet especially since their alternative isn't functional.
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This is what I thought. I also thought it unethical for Verizon to block Google wallet especially since their alternative isn't functional.
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Yup. I'm really getting tired of Verizon being a dictatorship. THEY say what we get. Even though I plunk down $600+ for a new phone, or $200-$300 if it's an upgrade, (I can't use a phone for 2 years, I get bored) I don't get to use it the way I want to. Ridiculous.
To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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Because they see all garbage? It's just picking the lesser of evils.
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Because they see all garbage? It's just picking the lesser of evils.
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Correct, they all do the same thing.
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To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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Well for some of us there is no good alternative to Verizon. We had AT&T since the first car phone came out. I had full service when I owned the original RAZR and we didn't even have 2g just regular whatever service. Then they upgraded the towers after Cingular was bought by AT&T and service got so bad that we had one bar inside but if we wanted to make a call we had to step outside on the porch. Then when 3g came we didn't have ANY service whatsoever in a mile radius. So for some of us we aren't there aren't any viable alternatives.
Plus Verizon has better service than any other provider I have ever been with, they are just dictators with their phones.
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Nothing has been set in stone. A friend of mine explained the reason the S3 isn't working yet is that the firmware needs to be updated to use the newer sim system to allow ISIS to work (due to the LTE hardware that Samsung uses).
I expect this will be resolved shortly. As of right now ISIS is still in testing phases anyways. Verizon invested a lot of money in ISIS. It's in their best interest to get it working.
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To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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You don't think we know about this option?
The reason I don't leave? Because I've had every major carrier, and Verizon has the best, most reliable coverage.
Doesn't mean I'm still not tired of their BS.
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Two years ago things were different than today. Much more things incorporated in the wireless community, specifically Verizon's to accept everything that they throw at US
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You don't think we know about this option?
The reason I don't leave? Because I've had every major carrier, and Verizon has the best, most reliable coverage.
Doesn't mean I'm still not tired of their BS.
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I didn't say you couldn't be tired of their bs. I'm not always thrilled with them either, but that's true with almost all companies. But when people throw around words like "dictatorship" and the like, it's extreme to say the least.
All I'm saying is at the end of the day we choose what we choose. We take the good and the bad with it.
Complaining about stuff like this is comparable to me buying a Hummer and then complaining that it has bad mpg.
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So I went into the store today, S3 is not supported officially. Maybe in the future.
I don't understand why you start of your brand with the worst phones that basically have zero users compared to the S3
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
I'm not one normally for stuff like thus but something need to be done people who have no idea about technology have no business make choices on how we the user use our phones.
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So how are they going to control this? Can't u still get an unlock code on eBay and them never know
What the hell.... why are they doing it I just signed the petition hope the govt take action about it.
This is ridiculous
So does this mean I can't flash custom ROMs anymore for my next phone? Unlocking == Unlock Bootloader? Or Unlocking = Allowing to run on different network is a different process than unlocking the bootloader...idk just confused about the bill if someone could clarify
Carrier unlock, not bootloader unlock
Done, this is a bunch of BS.
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I read a few articles about this back in December. Any phones bought before the law went into effect can still be unlocked legally by whatever means a person sees fit. To have an unlocked new device you must either purchase a device already unlocked like the nexus 4 or an iPhone sold buy apple unlocked, or you must get special permission from the carrier. I also remember reading an article about rooting or unlocking tablets becoming illegal unless provided by the manufacture like how Google does with the nexus line (couldn't find any recent articles over this).
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I read a few articles about this back in December. Any phones bought before the law went into effect can still be unlocked legally by whatever means a person sees fit. To have an unlocked new device you must either purchase a device already unlocked like the nexus 4 or an iPhone sold buy apple unlocked, or you must get special permission from the carrier. I also remember reading an article about rooting or unlocking tablets becoming illegal unless provided by the manufacture like how Google does with the nexus line (couldn't find any recent articles over this).
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I think this only applies to phones. Tablets are considered PCs and as such can be modified to the user's content.
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I waited til today to unlock my phone just to say **** you government
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
I waited til today to unlock my phone just to say **** you government
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Nice! From now on I'll make unlocking phones a hobby!!!
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I think this only applies to phones. Tablets are considered PCs and as such can be modified to the user's content.
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The new law now prevents unauthorized tinkering of tablets sold and distributed in the United States. However, the rule applies for devices governed by telcos' exclusive contracts, most of which expire after two years. I added two different links from a basic Google search.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4277...-smartphone-unlocking-tablet.htm#.UQS1A79EHQg
http://bgr.com/2013/01/24/smartphone-unlocking-illegal-303627/
'....the land of the free.....'
Isn't there an amendment about phones? I mean you guys have free speech and guns.....
So does this or does this not include bootloader unlocks?
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So does this or does this not include bootloader unlocks?
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No just Sim unlocks
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No just Sim unlocks
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There's a lot of FUD going around. Even The Verge (90 Seconds), had a spot that was vague and seemed to suggest that bootloader unlocking was now illegal (already gone through the courts and confirmed legal).
I think the new law is a net zero effect. Nothing really changes except that carriers have the option of pursuing you legally for taking their phone (your phone) off their network. I don't see them putting a lot of resources into enforcement.
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marijuana king said:
So how are they going to control this? Can't u still get an unlock code on eBay and them never know
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Can Anyone clear that up?
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No just Sim unlocks
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Thanks for the clarification
sorry my phone needs a breathalyzer to prevent me from posting nonsense
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Why bump this thread?
You may remember that last year, the DMCA exemption on unlocking phones was smacked down. Well it's going into effect this Saturday. So starting tomorrow, unlocking your phone will be officially illegal. Yay.
Unlocking phones without the express consent of the carrier who locked them became illegal thanks to edits to DMCA exemptions back in October, but it's only now that the 90-day grace period is running out. Locked phones purchased in the 90 days after the ruling are still game to be unlocked, but from here on out, for an unlocked phone to be legitimate, it'll have to have been bought that way or come with a permission slip from your carrier.
It's not the first time retracted DMCA exemptions have threatened to mess with your ability to mess with your phone. Jailbreaking and rooting almost became illegal again because of DMCA exemption changes. Fortunately, the same batch of modifications that illegalized unlocking will also protect phone jailbreaking for another three years. But it's still not allowed on tablets. Not than anyone is likely notice that particular indiscretion.
These changes won't, of course, limit you ability to unlock phones anyway, but it will give carriers a bit of a heavier stick to wave at you if they catch you using an unlocked phone they didn't authorize; they can tell. There are also a few technical loopholes. Legacy phones, i.e. "used (or perhaps unused) phones previously purchased or otherwise acquired by a consumer" are still cool to unlock, and that definition has a little bit of play in it. But the practice of unlocking your carrier-discounted phone is still going to be a crime, so get ready to deal with this brave new world, or live the life of an outlaw.
Illegal... you know I'm not really going to lose any sleep over this outside of the potential damage to sites and communities like xda. If the carriers do anything more than dole out some sort of fine I'll be surprised. Eventually some carrier will release all their phones like asus did with the tf300t tablet: register,unlock and no problem but your warranty is voided. I think this approach makes sense. I will be interested to see how xda handles the pressure from carriers or manufacturers to limit or remove access to the knowledge of this community.
T-Mobile will accept any unlocked phone. Plus, I can always buy chinese clones that come unlocked. No big deal.
Maybe in the US, but in Europe it's not illegal.
I've always wanted to live in US - a country of freedom.
Is the unlock illegal only if the equipment in question is under contract?
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I've always wanted to live in US - a country of freedom.
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If your not in the us why post? Nobody cares about how your EU allows phone unlocking now then let the us people do the talking.
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Majority of Sprint phones, like mine, come unlocked lol
Yay! Just because I paid full price for something doesn't mean I expect to own it or do what I want with it. I am happy to give my carrier hundreds of dollars for something that they have control over.
Seriously though, I refuse to buy a locked phone out of principle. I wish others would do the same.
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gc84245 said:
Yay! Just because I paid full price for something doesn't mean I expect to own it or do what I want with it. I am happy to give my carrier hundreds of dollars for something that they have control over.
Seriously though, I refuse to buy a locked phone out of principle. I wish others would do the same.
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I am from Tunisia:laugh:
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If your not in the us why post? Nobody cares about how your EU allows phone unlocking now then let the us people do the talking.
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I believe his comment was sarcastic...
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Is the unlock illegal only if the equipment in question is under contract?
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I am wondering this as well.
O no my phones illegal ! So is my girlfriend
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Didn't this unlocking refer to unlocking in the sense that you can use it with sim cards from any carrier and not the "unlocking" that means installing your own operating system or getting root privilegues?
There is no any restriction here in Chile, i expect that doesn't change.
Yes that's only for the carrier not just unlocking ur phine
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O no my phones illegal ! So is my girlfriend
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Haha
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It's also illegal to Jay walk and take the tag off your mattress... so this changes nothing
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Let XDA be governing regulating authority like DMCA. Then standards will be set by xda for dev community. XDA has the potential in my opinion.
Without research world cannot be healed.
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Let XDA be governing regulating authority like DMCA. Then standards will be set by xda for dev community. XDA has the potential in my opinion.
Without research world cannot be healed.
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What lol. Xda is Dev forum nothing else.
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