https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
I'm not one normally for stuff like thus but something need to be done people who have no idea about technology have no business make choices on how we the user use our phones.
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So how are they going to control this? Can't u still get an unlock code on eBay and them never know
What the hell.... why are they doing it I just signed the petition hope the govt take action about it.
This is ridiculous
So does this mean I can't flash custom ROMs anymore for my next phone? Unlocking == Unlock Bootloader? Or Unlocking = Allowing to run on different network is a different process than unlocking the bootloader...idk just confused about the bill if someone could clarify
Carrier unlock, not bootloader unlock
Done, this is a bunch of BS.
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I read a few articles about this back in December. Any phones bought before the law went into effect can still be unlocked legally by whatever means a person sees fit. To have an unlocked new device you must either purchase a device already unlocked like the nexus 4 or an iPhone sold buy apple unlocked, or you must get special permission from the carrier. I also remember reading an article about rooting or unlocking tablets becoming illegal unless provided by the manufacture like how Google does with the nexus line (couldn't find any recent articles over this).
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I read a few articles about this back in December. Any phones bought before the law went into effect can still be unlocked legally by whatever means a person sees fit. To have an unlocked new device you must either purchase a device already unlocked like the nexus 4 or an iPhone sold buy apple unlocked, or you must get special permission from the carrier. I also remember reading an article about rooting or unlocking tablets becoming illegal unless provided by the manufacture like how Google does with the nexus line (couldn't find any recent articles over this).
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I think this only applies to phones. Tablets are considered PCs and as such can be modified to the user's content.
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I waited til today to unlock my phone just to say **** you government
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
I waited til today to unlock my phone just to say **** you government
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Nice! From now on I'll make unlocking phones a hobby!!!
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I think this only applies to phones. Tablets are considered PCs and as such can be modified to the user's content.
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The new law now prevents unauthorized tinkering of tablets sold and distributed in the United States. However, the rule applies for devices governed by telcos' exclusive contracts, most of which expire after two years. I added two different links from a basic Google search.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4277...-smartphone-unlocking-tablet.htm#.UQS1A79EHQg
http://bgr.com/2013/01/24/smartphone-unlocking-illegal-303627/
'....the land of the free.....'
Isn't there an amendment about phones? I mean you guys have free speech and guns.....
So does this or does this not include bootloader unlocks?
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So does this or does this not include bootloader unlocks?
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No just Sim unlocks
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No just Sim unlocks
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There's a lot of FUD going around. Even The Verge (90 Seconds), had a spot that was vague and seemed to suggest that bootloader unlocking was now illegal (already gone through the courts and confirmed legal).
I think the new law is a net zero effect. Nothing really changes except that carriers have the option of pursuing you legally for taking their phone (your phone) off their network. I don't see them putting a lot of resources into enforcement.
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So how are they going to control this? Can't u still get an unlock code on eBay and them never know
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Can Anyone clear that up?
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No just Sim unlocks
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Thanks for the clarification
sorry my phone needs a breathalyzer to prevent me from posting nonsense
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AT&T is offering a limited HTC One Developer Edition with unlocked bootloader and it is already available on pre-order. However, even if if you’ve decided to get the regular HTC One from AT&T and want to get its bootloader unlocked, there’s nothing to worry about.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/att-htc-one-bootloader-is-unlockable-via-htcdev/
official launch april 19th.
It's been discussed in the One forums. But apparently AT&T plans to close this door on launch day.
Before you get too excited, though, HTC's affirmed to us that AT&T's One will not be supported by the HTCdev unlock service, which will effectively render its bootloader untouchable.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/15/htc-one-att-bootloader/
You got to be kidding me?!?! That's just crazy.
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You got to be kidding me?!?! I really love my phone but if HTC doesn't do something about this I will never buy another product from them and AT&T can bite me. That's just crazy.
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Same reason its best to get an iPhone 5 from Verizon, versus AT&T. They love to lock down EVERYTHING. Trust me, i used to work for them.
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Oh no. Lol. No way I'm ever getting an i anything. I will stay with android. No offense. Just partial to Droid.
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Oh no. Lol. No way I'm ever getting an i anything. I will stay with android. No offense. Just partial to Droid.
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Oh I agree. I had an iPhone 5, unimpressed. Hell I liked the 3gs better. Any who, this is the best.
But I was making a point about AT&T and their lock down process.
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But I was making a point about AT&T and their lock down process.
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Verizon is worse. They've in the past sent updates that intentionally soft-bricked rooted phones to force people to take them to Verizon stores to be unrooted.
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Verizon is worse. They've in the past sent updates that intentionally soft-bricked rooted phones to force people to take them to Verizon stores to be unrooted.
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Wow. I didn't know that. It's weird because they sim unlocked their phone from the get.
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In addition to the guarantee of being bootloader unlocked (as opposed to this game of maybe/maybe not for the AT&T version), the Dev Edition is also SIM unlocked, and free of AT&T bloat (unbranded version of the ROM) for the same unsubsidized price as the AT&T version (for those that aren't eligible for an upgrade yet).
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Wow. I didn't know that. It's weird because they sim unlocked their phone from the get.
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Here's but one example.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199042
Im probably going to get a T-Mobile version instead of dev edition. In a perfect world I could buy the dev edition 64gbyte version and flash a T-Mobile radio to enable all bands ever... But the dev version isn't even s-off (who does that, honestly)... So I'm opting for the T-Mobile version. LTE eats too much battery IMO.
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You may remember that last year, the DMCA exemption on unlocking phones was smacked down. Well it's going into effect this Saturday. So starting tomorrow, unlocking your phone will be officially illegal. Yay.
Unlocking phones without the express consent of the carrier who locked them became illegal thanks to edits to DMCA exemptions back in October, but it's only now that the 90-day grace period is running out. Locked phones purchased in the 90 days after the ruling are still game to be unlocked, but from here on out, for an unlocked phone to be legitimate, it'll have to have been bought that way or come with a permission slip from your carrier.
It's not the first time retracted DMCA exemptions have threatened to mess with your ability to mess with your phone. Jailbreaking and rooting almost became illegal again because of DMCA exemption changes. Fortunately, the same batch of modifications that illegalized unlocking will also protect phone jailbreaking for another three years. But it's still not allowed on tablets. Not than anyone is likely notice that particular indiscretion.
These changes won't, of course, limit you ability to unlock phones anyway, but it will give carriers a bit of a heavier stick to wave at you if they catch you using an unlocked phone they didn't authorize; they can tell. There are also a few technical loopholes. Legacy phones, i.e. "used (or perhaps unused) phones previously purchased or otherwise acquired by a consumer" are still cool to unlock, and that definition has a little bit of play in it. But the practice of unlocking your carrier-discounted phone is still going to be a crime, so get ready to deal with this brave new world, or live the life of an outlaw.
Illegal... you know I'm not really going to lose any sleep over this outside of the potential damage to sites and communities like xda. If the carriers do anything more than dole out some sort of fine I'll be surprised. Eventually some carrier will release all their phones like asus did with the tf300t tablet: register,unlock and no problem but your warranty is voided. I think this approach makes sense. I will be interested to see how xda handles the pressure from carriers or manufacturers to limit or remove access to the knowledge of this community.
T-Mobile will accept any unlocked phone. Plus, I can always buy chinese clones that come unlocked. No big deal.
Maybe in the US, but in Europe it's not illegal.
I've always wanted to live in US - a country of freedom.
Is the unlock illegal only if the equipment in question is under contract?
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I've always wanted to live in US - a country of freedom.
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If your not in the us why post? Nobody cares about how your EU allows phone unlocking now then let the us people do the talking.
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Majority of Sprint phones, like mine, come unlocked lol
Yay! Just because I paid full price for something doesn't mean I expect to own it or do what I want with it. I am happy to give my carrier hundreds of dollars for something that they have control over.
Seriously though, I refuse to buy a locked phone out of principle. I wish others would do the same.
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gc84245 said:
Yay! Just because I paid full price for something doesn't mean I expect to own it or do what I want with it. I am happy to give my carrier hundreds of dollars for something that they have control over.
Seriously though, I refuse to buy a locked phone out of principle. I wish others would do the same.
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:good:
I am from Tunisia:laugh:
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If your not in the us why post? Nobody cares about how your EU allows phone unlocking now then let the us people do the talking.
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I believe his comment was sarcastic...
daluke said:
Is the unlock illegal only if the equipment in question is under contract?
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I am wondering this as well.
O no my phones illegal ! So is my girlfriend
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Didn't this unlocking refer to unlocking in the sense that you can use it with sim cards from any carrier and not the "unlocking" that means installing your own operating system or getting root privilegues?
There is no any restriction here in Chile, i expect that doesn't change.
Yes that's only for the carrier not just unlocking ur phine
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O no my phones illegal ! So is my girlfriend
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Haha
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It's also illegal to Jay walk and take the tag off your mattress... so this changes nothing
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Let XDA be governing regulating authority like DMCA. Then standards will be set by xda for dev community. XDA has the potential in my opinion.
Without research world cannot be healed.
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Let XDA be governing regulating authority like DMCA. Then standards will be set by xda for dev community. XDA has the potential in my opinion.
Without research world cannot be healed.
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What lol. Xda is Dev forum nothing else.
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Do I root and install custom Roms on tmobile nexus 5 like the unlock nexus 5?
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Do I root and install custom Roms on tmobile nexus 5 like the unlock nexus 5?
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its the same exact nexus 5, there is no difference.
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Do I root and install custom Roms on tmobile nexus 5 like the unlock nexus 5?
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This has been answered about 4 times this week alone. All Nexus 5's are unlocked! Your Nexus 5 is the same D820 model that the Google Play Store sell. T-Mobile has not made any modifications to it. No carrier bloatware, it's not carrier locked, no T-Mobile WiFi calling installed, etc.
It's 100% unlocked and 100% the same as the one on the Play Store! Pure Google!
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The boot loader is actually locked. Unlocking it is the same as the Play Store model/version. Or if you just want root look for CF-Autoroot.
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ishken said:
The boot loader is actually locked. Unlocking it is the same as the Play Store model/version. Or if you just want root look for CF-Autoroot.
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the bootloader on all nexus devices is locked. what hes talking about is being carrier locked/unlocked.
Thank you guys. Sorry for being a noob
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Thank you guys. Sorry for being a noob
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don't use chainfire to root your phone follow the sticky in general.
There is no physical/software difference between the two. The only thing special about it is that your phone is flagged as a T-Mobile device since T-Mobile knows your serial number (or some other identification number). AFAIK, this allows you to download the t-mobile voicemail app from the play store.
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There is no physical/software difference between the two. The only thing special about it is that your phone is flagged as a T-Mobile device since T-Mobile knows your serial number (or some other identification number). AFAIK, this allows you to download the t-mobile voicemail app from the play store.
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So if I get the device off Google play website I won't be able to use my T-Mobile insurance if something goes wrong with the device? I would save $50 if purchased from google
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So if I get the device off Google play website I won't be able to use my T-Mobile insurance if something goes wrong with the device? I would save $50 if purchased from google
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I believe you will still be able to utilize T-Mobile's insurance. Its not like its an At&t or Sprint specific phone then it would be understandable why T-Mobile won't cover it. T-Mobile sells the very same phone as the one on the Play Store so it shouldn't be an issue.
Note: If you do decide to buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store then you'll be covered under a manufacturers warranty. Its not exactly the same as T-Mobile's insurance but it will cover any software and/or hardware defects (minus a cracked screen or water damage).
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I believe you will still be able to utilize T-Mobile's insurance. Its not like its an At&t or Sprint specific phone then it would be understandable why T-Mobile won't cover it. T-Mobile sells the very same phone as the one on the Play Store so it shouldn't be an issue.
Note: If you do decide to buy the Nexus 5 from the Play Store then you'll be covered under a manufacturers warranty. Its not exactly the same as T-Mobile's insurance but it will cover any software and/or hardware defects (minus a cracked screen or water damage).
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I don't think you can get the insurance if you didn't purchase it from them. I have T-Mobile and I wasn't given that option.
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I don't think you can get the insurance if you didn't purchase it from them. I have T-Mobile and I wasn't given that option.
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In the past, when I was with T-Mobile I used to always get phones off of Craigslist and I would sometimes send them to T-Mobile for a warranty exchange. As far as I know the insurance is transferable from device to device. Of course it won't be if you have an At&t branded device but if T-Mobile has the device in their lineup then I don't see why they wouldn't honor it and give you another one if you pay monthly for their insurance service.
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That's correct, the insurance is attached to the line, not the phone.
Can't find any concrete answers. Does the M8 Developer Edition work on Verizon's network?
I want this phone so bad but can't stand Verizon's lockdowns!!
Thank you
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Can't find any concrete answers. Does the M8 Developer Edition work on Verizon's network?
I want this phone so bad but can't stand Verizon's lockdowns!!
Thank you
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Would like to know this as well
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i cant find the answer no where. i need to find out before 14 day so i can return this HTC one.
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Can't find any concrete answers. Does the M8 Developer Edition work on Verizon's network?
I want this phone so bad but can't stand Verizon's lockdowns!!
Thank you
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Definitely NOT. The Google Play store mentions in a footnote that it will only work on T-Mobile & AT&T.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
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Definitely NOT. The Google Play store mentions in a footnote that it will only work on T-Mobile & AT&T.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
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Isn't that the Google Edition? That will not work on Verizon. But I believe the OP is asking about the Developer edition.
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Definitely NOT. The Google Play store mentions in a footnote that it will only work on T-Mobile & AT&T.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
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It could still work, we'd need someone to test. The M7 developer edition supported T-Mobile but only on 3G/FauxG. But flashing the T-Mobile radio to it enabled LTE connectivity.
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I contacted HTC yesterday. The rep told me that both the Unlocked (sim unlocked) and Developer models will operate on Verizon.
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I contacted HTC yesterday. The rep told me that both the Unlocked (sim unlocked) and Developer models will operate on Verizon.
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I'm not sure if I can believe this till I see someone do it.
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i figured id be the guinea pig and since i have patience issues i ordered one today to try it myself.
i ordered by phone due to checkout issues and the rep said theres no reason it shouldnt work
worst case scenario i guess is i send it back
I was under the impression the Dev edition was GSM only.
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I was under the impression the Dev edition was GSM only.
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Possibly. But the spec sheet for our model doesn't mention the T-Mobile compatibility we've seen so far. I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if HTC just used software/firmware to disable bands (or maybe not at all) in order to avoid making 5+ different pieces of hardware.
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Possibly. But the spec sheet for our model doesn't mention the T-Mobile compatibility we've seen so far. I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if HTC just used software/firmware to disable bands (or maybe not at all) in order to avoid making 5+ different pieces of hardware.
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How long until it ships? If you get it within 12 days, I'll return my retail and go dev.
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The developer edition only works with GSM carriers. VZW is CDMA.
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According to the website, yes. But it very likely has the CDMA radio hardware in there in order to save HTC the cost of manufacturing multiple devices. Much like how our locked model can connect to T-Mobile LTE, though you will find no mention of those bands being supported.
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How long until it ships? If you get it within 12 days, I'll return my retail and go dev.
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the rep said it should ship on the 3rd
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the rep said it should ship on the 3rd
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So....does it work?
The only devices that work with Verizon are ones that are "certified" by them. There has been talk of a developer edition specifically for Verizon.
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And is it really relevant anymore? The VZW edition can be S-Off'd, so...
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And is it really relevant anymore? The VZW edition can be S-Off'd, so...
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Dev edition is good for those who want warranty through HTC.
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Dev edition is good for those who want warranty through HTC.
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Well, I guess that's a good point. I guess I'm just so used to instantly voiding my warranties every time I get a new phone or tablet I don't even think about that...
I was looking to buy a used Nexus 5 for a nominal price from eBay, but the phone is locked to a carrier that I don't want to switch to. Is there someone on the forum who can provide unlock codes? I tried doing Google searches, but all of them return unlocking guide for the bootloader. Has anyone unlocked their Nexus 5?
It comes unlocked. It isn't locked to any carrier.
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All good devices are unlocked. There's US version and rest of the world version. It has both CDMA and gsm capabilities
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It comes unlocked. It isn't locked to any carrier.
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Are you sure? The guy who has it says he bought it from carrier, and it's locked to it.
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Are you sure? The guy who has it says he bought it from carrier, and it's locked to it.
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Yes, we're sure
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Are you sure? The guy who has it says he bought it from carrier, and it's locked to it.
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This has come up many times. As the others said, All N5's, even those sold by carriers, are unlocked.
I would use the seller's ignorance against him to get a better price. Tell him it's going to cost you $40 to unlock it and that he's going to have a tough time selling it locked to a carrier. You'll take it if he knocks off the cost of unlocking