Hey everyone!
I will buy the Razr HD and I have a question about the warranty:
Tell me if I'm right:
if I root my phone, i can unroot, so my warranty is not over
but if I unlock the bootloader, it's impossible to relock and my warranty is over.
Thank's and sorry for my french accent
AFAIK YES .
btw even if you ever manage to re lock your warranty is still void so don't bother
Ok, because I'm just interested by the Root (for backing up my apllication and more..) So i can just do that ^^
btrax said:
Ok, because I'm just interested by the Root (for backing up my apllication and more..) So i can just do that ^^
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Rooting the phone now sets an as yet unremovable flag that denotes the phone has been rooted. Search for details.
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Hi All,
I`ve just purchased a NS and I want it to be rooted. It was quite easy on my previous phone (SG3), but now I`m unable to find any guides to do this without unlocking the bootloader.
Actually flashing a custom ROM, such as CM7 would be the next step but I can live with this original one(2.3.4), but rooting is vital, I`m unable to live without eg. titanium backup, but also need the 2 years warranty...
Do you have any idea for solving this?
Thanks in advance.
fishmong3r
You can try the Gingerbreak exploit. Other than that I know of no way without unlocking the bootloader.
I`v tried Gingerbreak yesterday but unfortunately it`s not working.
Any other idea?
No. I thought the Gingerbreak exploit might have been fixed in 2.3.4 but I wasn't sure. I don't know of any other way without unlocking the bootloader.
Why don't you unlock the bootloader? It is not like the nexus one. The bootloader can be locked again at ur wish with the command : fastboot OEM lock
You can unlock the bootloader, flash your recovery, flash your rom and lock it up again if that is your wish.
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This would be fine if this is not causing warranty issues.
To be honest I've read somewhere in this forum that unlocking the bootloader is irreversible and voids the warranty.
So please repose me.
deeren said:
Why don't you unlock the bootloader? It is not like the nexus one. The bootloader can be locked again at ur wish with the command : fastboot OEM lock
You can unlock the bootloader, flash your recovery, flash your rom and lock it up again if that is your wish.
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a helpful member on this forum also told me that :
Samsung can read out files to see if you unlocked the bootloader IF they want to
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So is there anyOther way to root without warranty void ??
dharmil007 said:
a helpful member on this forum also told me that :
So is there anyOther way to root without warranty void ??
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Gingerbreak, but it's not working with the latest Android versions anymore afaik.
rentaric said:
Gingerbreak, but it's not working with the latest Android versions anymore afaik.
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i'Ve read that in the previous post too.
anyOther way ?
dharmil007 said:
i'Ve read that in the previous post too.
anyOther way ?
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None that I'd know of, maybe someone got a private hardware approach/mod, but that I highly doubt.
Gingerbreak before 2.2 (I think) or unlocking bootloader via fastboot oem unlock.
This really shouldn't be a huge concern.
Look at the language on the unlock screen. Unlike the Nexus One which stated unlocking voids the warranty the Nexus S language has been tweaked to indicate unlocking *may* void your warranty.
Even with unlocked bootloaders HTC honored the warranty on the Nexus One for hardware issues. Don't expect to unlock, root, leave the LED on high for 20 minutes and then try to send it in for repair when it burns out though.
Will I get my warranty back when I unroot my phone after unlocking the boot loader and rooting ..can we relock the boot loader ..i'm new to rooting ..pls help
Lakshya said:
Will I get my warranty back when I unroot my phone after unlocking the boot loader and rooting ..can we relock the boot loader ..i'm new to rooting ..pls help
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Yes. You'll also want to 'untamper' it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
Lakshya said:
Will I get my warranty back when I unroot my phone after unlocking the boot loader and rooting ..can we relock the boot loader ..i'm new to rooting ..pls help
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That's a philosophical question. Unlocking the bootloader may have voided your warranty. Just because you re-lock it doesn't magically bring with it a new warranty.
jd1639 said:
That's a philosophical question. Unlocking the bootloader may have voided your warranty. Just because you re-lock it doesn't magically bring with it a new warranty.
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Not new warranty.. I'm asking can I take my phone back to the lg store for repairs when it is in warranty ?or will they not accept it saying your warranty is void ..I want to put cm11 and that would require both unlocking boot loader rooting the device ..so ..noob here ..help ..thanks
If a bootloader in the forest is unlocked and then relocked, and nobody sees, was it really ever unlocked?
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Yes. You'll also want to 'untamper' it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
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I knew there was script/binary for resetting the tamper flag, but I didn't realize there was an actual app for it. I'm surprised Google allows such an app on the Play Store.
Lakshya said:
Not new warranty.. I'm asking can I take my phone back to the lg store for repairs when it is in warranty ?or will they not accept it saying your warranty is void ..I want to put cm11 and that would require both unlocking boot loader rooting the device ..so ..noob here ..help ..thanks
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We can argue semantics all day long. The bottom line is, if you're having a problem with your phone, as long as it's not caused by your third-party modifications, they should honor your warranty. Now should you damage your phone or render it inoperable in the process of modding, they absolutely won't cover that under the warranty, as they shouldn't. This is a risk you take when you choose to mod your phone, so absolutely do your due dilligence and proceed with utmost caution when using third-party modifications.
how to root moto g without unlock bootloader?
Right now there is no solution. Maybe one day, but don't hold your breath.
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
When the bootloader is unlocked there is a warning when you boot, but there's a solution published in these forums for how to revert to the normal Motorola boot screen. You can relock the bootloader but it doesn't restore the warranty as Motorola have a list of which phones have been unlocked.
However in Europe unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate your warranty, regardless of what Motorola might say. You also have an automatic 2-year warranty on all purchases.
raniero1 said:
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
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To unlock Bootloader you have to submit "fastboot oem get_unlock_data" on Motorola's website and you'll get the unlock code. If you do so they have your device in their database. Secondary it is flagged in the device itself if i remember right.
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
I know that to unlock sony phone you have to get from their website also a code, but that dont get you warranty off, in italy ive sent the phone in assistance and they didnt even check that database
anyway i hope there will be a way to root without losing warranty in near future, like for samsung flashing prerooted stock firmware
i just want root to restore data from a titanium backup for 1 app from my previous android phone, nothing more
raniero1 said:
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
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I'm not sure with this, but i think, in Europe you'll have full warrenty anyway on the Hardware as long as you did not destroy it by a software failure. So for e.g. if you unlock Bootloader only and your screen will be dead later which is not caused by a software modification you'll have full warrenty on the Hardware. But if it comes hard, it might be difficult to deliver a proper proof to Motorola that it is a manufacturers fault.
This is the chat i had right now with motorola germany
Ben: Hallo, mein Name ist Ben. Wie kann ich Ihnen helfen?
me: Hello, can i just ask you a question in english?
Ben: Sure, how can I help?
me: Thank you very much, i just would like to know if phone unlocking, about moto g, void warranty
me: With phone unlocking i mean bootload unlocking
Ben: Yes, this will void the warranty.
me: Ok thank you ben
me: goodbye
Ben: You are very welcome, bye for now.
This is also written in their licence Agreement. I doubt that it is applicable to EU law in this way. But as i said i don't know for sure, I'm not a lawyer. They can write and say a lot if the day is long and of course they will not give you any legal advice which will be against their own terms.. If you ask them they will always answer what they want. Terms can sometimes be futile. Maybe you can ask in a lawyers Forum. Many more will be interested in that
EDIT: In Germany you have the Terms Gewährleistung und Garantie. It can be that the Gewährleistung will be lost because it is voluntary given to you by the vendor. But with my above mentioned Situation the Garantie will be still applicable as in aboves case, at least in Germany. But as i said I don't know for sure. This is what i read in the last weeks about this.
NOT SURE IF IT IS REALLY LIKE THAT!!!
EDIT: If you can understand German you might read this. Maybe I'll find this also in English.
EDIT: Several Laguages:
Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
I guess there may be other options, eg some sort of civil rights organization which helps with warranty issues which may or may not cost money, but even if its free its still going to cost a lot of my time.
I think if you unlock the bootloader you really want to acknowledge that the chances are that Motorola wont be fixing your phone, whether thats lawfully right or wrong may not be worth your time and money arguing over.
Personally I wouldnt blame Motorola for telling me that made my choice and now to live with it.
What I do think is a shame is that they dont officially release the stock images of the moto g as they do with their dev editions of some phones. After all that may remove a lot of support calls they get (and then refuse) from people that have screwed up their moto g's by unlocking and rooting etc.
scott_doyland said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
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Did you buy the phone from Motorola directly? Probably no.
Amazon, Tesco, Phones4you etc...
The warranty contract which is provided by EU law is not between you and the manufacturer (Motorola), but between you and the seller.
So if you have a hardware fault, you send/take the phone back to the seller. It's true that If they don't replace it right away, they'll probably send it to Motorola for repair anyways, and Motorola can say that your warranty is void.
But in this article this article they say:
"In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations."
Thanks for the info, its obvious to me now that I'd go to phones4u - just as I would return any faulty appliance to the seller. It would be interesting to see what happened if I ever had to do that, but i hope I don't have to.
cwm without unlocking
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
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can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
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You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
denzel09 said:
You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
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cwm?
balajiasmartguy said:
cwm?
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Without unlock bootloader you can not boot or flash a custom recovery on moto g. It is not possible in our case. Again.
y its not possible... in recovery it has a option to install update from SD card... with this can't we install cwm? correct me if I am wrong...
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
denzel09 said:
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
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am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
balajiasmartguy said:
am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
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No
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Title pretty much says it all. I upgraded to 5.0.1 w/o realizing I'd loose root. I don't really want to unlock my bootloader but I sure would like root for various apps like Tasker, Titanium Backup, etc.
Unfortunately, at this time there is no way to root without unlocking your bootloader. The only way to do it was to update to 5.0 from rooted kitkat and retain root. But unlocking your bootloader isn't so bad your hardware warranty will still be honored.
markymark567 said:
Unfortunately, at this time there is no way to root without unlocking your bootloader. The only way to do it was to update to 5.0 from rooted kitkat and retain root. But unlocking your bootloader isn't so bad your hardware warranty will still be honored.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the warranty is all I'm really concerned about. Guess I'll need to check on nVidia's forums for that answer?
Col.Kernel said:
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the warranty is all I'm really concerned about. Guess I'll need to check on nVidia's forums for that answer?
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Unlocking your bootloader is fully supported by Nvidia so it will not void your warranty as the previous poster stated and you disregarded.
melgibson666 said:
Unlocking your bootloader is fully supported by Nvidia so it will not void your warranty as the previous poster stated and you disregarded.
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Sorry, I was sick at the time and the lack of punctuation confused me.
Hi at all
I have my edge from 2 months and i a wanna root the device to install magisk ect ect...
But in the rules of motorola unlock bootloader website , i read that the unlock the device , void the warranty ...
It's real? Reflash and lock the bootloader to stock , warranty return?
Thanks
bmw320cd said:
Hi at all
I have my edge from 2 months and i a wanna root the device to install magisk ect ect...
But in the rules of motorola unlock bootloader website , i read that the unlock the device , void the warranty ...
It's real? Reflash and lock the bootloader to stock , warranty return?
Thanks
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Yes unlocking the bootloader does void warranty.
Motorola rarely enforces it, and will fix or replace if there was a manufacturer problem.
sd_shadow said:
Yes unlocking the bootloader does void warranty.
Motorola rarely enforces it, and will fix or replace if there was a manufacturer problem.
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I have the screen that already tends to green on greyish colors so I'm afraid that by unlocking the BL then maybe when I decide to send it to assistance, they won't recognize the damage