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Hi All,
I`ve just purchased a NS and I want it to be rooted. It was quite easy on my previous phone (SG3), but now I`m unable to find any guides to do this without unlocking the bootloader.
Actually flashing a custom ROM, such as CM7 would be the next step but I can live with this original one(2.3.4), but rooting is vital, I`m unable to live without eg. titanium backup, but also need the 2 years warranty...
Do you have any idea for solving this?
Thanks in advance.
fishmong3r
You can try the Gingerbreak exploit. Other than that I know of no way without unlocking the bootloader.
I`v tried Gingerbreak yesterday but unfortunately it`s not working.
Any other idea?
No. I thought the Gingerbreak exploit might have been fixed in 2.3.4 but I wasn't sure. I don't know of any other way without unlocking the bootloader.
Why don't you unlock the bootloader? It is not like the nexus one. The bootloader can be locked again at ur wish with the command : fastboot OEM lock
You can unlock the bootloader, flash your recovery, flash your rom and lock it up again if that is your wish.
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This would be fine if this is not causing warranty issues.
To be honest I've read somewhere in this forum that unlocking the bootloader is irreversible and voids the warranty.
So please repose me.
deeren said:
Why don't you unlock the bootloader? It is not like the nexus one. The bootloader can be locked again at ur wish with the command : fastboot OEM lock
You can unlock the bootloader, flash your recovery, flash your rom and lock it up again if that is your wish.
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a helpful member on this forum also told me that :
Samsung can read out files to see if you unlocked the bootloader IF they want to
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So is there anyOther way to root without warranty void ??
dharmil007 said:
a helpful member on this forum also told me that :
So is there anyOther way to root without warranty void ??
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Gingerbreak, but it's not working with the latest Android versions anymore afaik.
rentaric said:
Gingerbreak, but it's not working with the latest Android versions anymore afaik.
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i'Ve read that in the previous post too.
anyOther way ?
dharmil007 said:
i'Ve read that in the previous post too.
anyOther way ?
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None that I'd know of, maybe someone got a private hardware approach/mod, but that I highly doubt.
Gingerbreak before 2.2 (I think) or unlocking bootloader via fastboot oem unlock.
This really shouldn't be a huge concern.
Look at the language on the unlock screen. Unlike the Nexus One which stated unlocking voids the warranty the Nexus S language has been tweaked to indicate unlocking *may* void your warranty.
Even with unlocked bootloaders HTC honored the warranty on the Nexus One for hardware issues. Don't expect to unlock, root, leave the LED on high for 20 minutes and then try to send it in for repair when it burns out though.
When you root, you void the warranty correct?
But, if you flash the stock rom and remove the root (am I saying that right), you can send it in for warranty correct?
What is the difference (if there is one) of rooting and unlocking?? What is the relationship to the warranty with the unlocking?
lardo5150 said:
When you root, you void the warranty correct?
But, if you flash the stock rom and remove the root (am I saying that right), you can send it in for warranty correct?
What is the difference (if there is one) of rooting and unlocking?? What is the relationship to the warranty with the unlocking?
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I wouldnt mention either of them in a warranty claim. But in general, root will not void your warranty and you can easily erase it by flashing the stock rom. Unlocking the bootloader MIGHT void your warranty, and there's no undoing it.
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I wouldnt mention either of them in a warranty claim. But in general, root will not void your warranty and you can easily erase it by flashing the stock rom. Unlocking the bootloader MIGHT void your warranty, and there's no undoing it.
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Ha, no I did not mean I was going to mention them.
That is exactly what I was looking for though, thanks!
Can someone explain (or point me to a wiki) that shows what unlocking bootloader is. I rooted my epic 4g, but have never heard of unlocking the bootloader. What is the difference and why is it necassary?
lardo5150 said:
Ha, no I did not mean I was going to mention them.
That is exactly what I was looking for though, thanks!
Can someone explain (or point me to a wiki) that shows what unlocking bootloader is. I rooted my epic 4g, but have never heard of unlocking the bootloader. What is the difference and why is it necassary?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/unlocked
Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
Osid said:
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Could you read my post first?
squid2 said:
Your bootloader must be unlocked to use this recovery.
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unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.
shawly said:
Could you read my post first?
unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.
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If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
I used to root in one click in just one method on my previous phone xperia sp but i dont know this phone have any toll which will work or not?
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Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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zephiK said:
Just unlock the bootloader and root. You're making it too difficult for yourself, the whole point of the bootloader being locked is to prevent changes being made to the system.
Its like saying, you're going to break your windows to get into your house when you can just unlock the door.
Just unlock the bootloader and flash supersu for root.
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Also this.
Ragarianok said:
Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, I also don't plan on using custom roms, I just want the root features so I can undervolt like I said and IF I could root it permanently without unlocking the bootloader, why not?
I'm not worried, it would just be convenient to have root without losing the warranty, that's it.
As far as I know you may be able to do it search kingroot in Google then download the apk and install it then open in and follow the instructions
shawly said:
Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, ...
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Then leave the device stock ...
If you want the best of both worlds (root & warranty), then go buy a Nexus. Motorola drew a line in the sand as to what they will support, while still empowering owners with the option to unlock the bootloader.
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If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Not really. While I've unlocked my previous phones, my new g3 I'm leaving locked for the first year, while the warranty lasts. But this site still has a few helpful stuff.
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...You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever...if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device...
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He just wants the warranty, but he doesn't care about rooting it because there's not really anything wrong with rooting if you know what you're doing and how to fix it.
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And to answer the question; you need to unlock the bootloader to root
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Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!
Jdwright0819 said:
Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!
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Towelroot is exploiting a bug in the Linux Kernel in order to root a device. This bug was already fixed in June 2014.
On all Kernels with a later build date Towelroot will most likely not work.
For sure it will not work on the Moto G3 with a kernel build date more than one year after this bug was fixed.
Thanks!
shawly said:
Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.
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It's probably been answered already but those exploits are security flaws with the SE Linux system and so with each release of android these have been patched, by 5.1 these security holes have been fixed and now by locking the bootloader
It's like just locking down and modifications to the system partition so unfortunately you can't root without unlocking, unless you have android versions lower down
shawly said:
Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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I have unlocked bootloader and i m on stock recovery amd on stock rom without rooted. Can i install twrp without pc
Are you root yet
I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?
Ankur1 said:
I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?
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What version of TWRP did you use coz I know there were some bugs on the moto range with TWRP 2.X.
I would completely wipe device using stock recovery, including dalvic/cache/data everything just to be on the safe side, then download the TWRP zip to your computer and flash it on using ADB.
Boot up normally and move the superSU zip from the link to your phones internal storage. Then reboot to TWRP, select install and pick the zip file.
superSU.zip:
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/6/5/5/4/0/1/BETA-SuperSU-v2.62-3-20151211162651.zip?key=u0OeGV4-4s02KJXqrXJ-gg&ts=1466705675
If you get stuck this might help:
https://motog3.com/unlock-bootloader-install-twrp-root-moto-g3/
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Osid said:
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Perhaps you can offer wisdom on this? I rooted my Moto G 3rd Gen once, wrecked something and had to go back to factory, then try to reroot again. Problem. No matter what I do in setting the device back to factory, the bootloader stays unlocked and reads the system software as "modified" which then seems to bork installing SuperSU. I install SuperSU via twrp and it goes fine, no errors, but when I reboot the system is lost in a loop of the "bootloader unlocked" screen.
So I cannot RE-lock the bootloader (ala setting the phone back to true factory) and after I flash SuperSU the phone refuses to successfully bootup.
Any aid? Ideas?
I had failed to backup my phone the first time with twrp and so to set to factory I downloaded the stock retail xml.zip for my phone and reflashed the entire thing via fastboot. Reinstall twrp, and try to root and the endless boot loop begins.
So I came to this thread to look into the possibility rooting my phone via another means that MIGHT work.
I just wondered as a new Honor user wether root without unlocking the bootloader was possible, or if anyone is looking into to it at all?
Perhaps dirtycow or other ways?
Thanks in advance
I think that this is not currently possible. But the return of the original factory state is not a problem, see this topic here & here.
why do you even want to root without unlocking??whn unlocking is the easeier one than rooting...:good:
scoobydu said:
I just wondered as a new Honor user wether root without unlocking the bootloader was possible, or if anyone is looking into to it at all?
Perhaps dirtycow or other ways?
Thanks in advance
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u should unlock but don't warry almost 90% of country's unlocking will not void warranty for huawei policies
Warranty issues and letting HW know that I've unlocked the bootloader.
Coming from Sony's previously you would lose DRM info for the camera and screen and audio tech if you unlocked without saving a TA partition.
Asume thats not the same with HW and its only a matter of them refusing to support you if you unlock?
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Warranty issues and letting HW know that I've unlocked the bootloader.
Coming from Sony's previously you would lose DRM info for the camera and screen and audio tech if you unlocked without saving a TA partition.
Asume thats not the same with HW and its only a matter of them refusing to support you if you unlock?
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when u go th unlocking website . they noted every thing regarding unlocking bootloader . so don't it will be up to you after u read to proceed or not !.
Romiui said:
when u go th unlocking website . they noted every thing regarding unlocking bootloader . so don't it will be up to you after u read to proceed or not !.
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Pretty sure he knows that. That is why we're interested in rooting the phone WITHOUT unlocking it...
His guys just got the xzp and wow what a phone my only concern is root I have a locked bootloader and it's not unlockable but to be fair I've never unlocked a Xperia bootloader due to loosing drm keys etc
So my question is will we be able to get root on locked bootloaders like we did with past Xperia phones or are we stuck unless we unlock which in my case would mead no root ever :crying:
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Probably not would be my guess. You still need to unlock bootloader on previous models such as XZ/XZS.
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Probably not would be my guess. You still need to unlock bootloader on previous models such as XZ/XZS.
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Darn I love this device too but to never be able to have root might be a deal breaker
In service menu it says unlock bootloader allowed no but in developer options it give me the option to unlock the bootloader does this mean it's possible for me to unlock the bootloader
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In service menu it says unlock bootloader allowed no but in developer options it give me the option to unlock the bootloader does this mean it's possible for me to unlock the bootloader
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That setting is there regardless. If it says no its not possible.
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That setting is there regardless. If it says no its not possible.
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Ah OK no root for me then ever think it might have to be the oneplus 5 then I love this phone too
Wait for an Android vulnerability or someone find a way to backup the TA partition
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Wait for an Android vulnerability or someone find a way to backup the TA partition
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But I cannot unlock the bootloader I was hoping for a root without unlocking the bootloader like the z3 which was my last Xperia device
One question if I stay with the xzp cam I at least flash the latest stock UK unbranded room with a locked bootloader so I can get rid of my carrier stuff thanks
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But I cannot unlock the bootloader I was hoping for a root without unlocking the bootloader like the z3 which was my last Xperia device
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It's what i'm saying
brockyneo said:
One question if I stay with the xzp cam I at least flash the latest stock UK unbranded room with a locked bootloader so I can get rid of my carrier stuff thanks
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yes
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It's what i'm saying
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So what your saying is they maybe a work around getting root ect on locked bootloaders?
Thanks again
Like always, if a security breach is found on Android that allow getting root access, it will be possible to backup the DRM partition, then after if you like, unlocking the bootloader and then restore your DRM partition.
At least, it finished like this for the Z5, but you had to downgrade to Lollipop to get root access.
AFAIK, there is no known way to get root on Nougat today.
ninjy said:
Like always, if a security breach is found on Android that allow getting root access, it will be possible to backup the DRM partition, then after if you like, unlocking the bootloader and then restore your DRM partition.
At least, it finished like this for the Z5, but you had to downgrade to Lollipop to get root access.
AFAIK, there is no known way to get root on Nougat today.
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So there is the Dirty Cow exploit that seems pretty pervasive and promising.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot, I didn't realize the dates on dirty cow.
Question still stands though, do we know if there is anyone on the XZ Premium working on it?
topherhead said:
So there is the Dirty Cow exploit that seems pretty pervasive and promising.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot, I didn't realize the dates on dirty cow.
Question still stands though, do we know if there is anyone on the XZ Premium working on it?
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I don't think so, there will be more involved ppl when XZ1 will be released, since it's the same specs
hoping for this with the XZs updated to Oreo...
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hoping for this with the XZs updated to Oreo...
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It's not possible anymore. You really need to unlock the bootloader in order to root. Something about patching the kernel.