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Title says most. I am going to be getting my charge on tuesday and have been doing some research about what rom to try, and gave it narrowed down to these two. which one do you like more and why? I have read the threads on both and they seem pretty even, just wondering which one you prefer and why...thanks for any and all responses!
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Perhaps you did not research enough, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171270&highlight=humble
they are both good but I prefer Humble because of the battery savings...Gummy is very snazzy looking though and works pretty much flawlessly and quick. Its a tough choice honestly but I personally want/need the battery to be as efficient as possible and for the Rom to do everything I need it to do.....Humble does that for me..as an example I have been unplugged for 9 hours---dropped 31% battery! I say thats a pretty nice win!
Of course your mileage may vary and everyones battery life is different...I think either way you will be happy...I say try both for a few days each and see
I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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Heard that, thats why I never work on my familys phone anymore. Lol.
Why do you have to flash it on both of their phones? Just try it yourself and then give out the goods lol,
rand4ll said:
I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
nitsuj17 said:
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
chiahead52 said:
I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
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There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
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There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
I was using imnuts pbj voodoo kernel and decided to try gummycharged and it just locked up the phone, sloooooow reaction to moving screens, scrolling, opening apps, etc and would lock up all the time... might've been my imagination but data (3G/4G) seemed flaky too, even after several wipes and reflashes. Guess my Charge doesn't like it Oh well I just loaded up the debloated EE4 and it flies with imnuts kernel
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge
hockeybpr25 said:
I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
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First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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uhmmmm i want better battery life. i'm a CS major too so i'm fine with technology, i just never wanted to pay the 30 a month for data until now. and i've had the phone for a few weeks now.
Humble has great battery life, don't want to disregard what Nitsuj said but I swear I have much better battery life switching over to Humble then I did on GC. It might just be the battery gremlins but the battery life was noticeably different, maybe it's just my imagination since its advertised to be a low power ROM.
Humble has some cool animations, it's sort of a love hate thing. You may get incredibly sick of it after awhile but you can easily turn the option off.
Humble is updated very frequently, that might not be a good thing for you. It's very easy to flash the updated versions if you're already on Humble but you may not want to keep downloading new updates every few days, I personally love it. Keeps the ROM fresh.
Humble doesn't have that nasty freeze/reboot issue that happened about once every day or two on GC. Might have been a bad flash but I read about others saying it happened to them as well.
I believe Humble has an increased Dalvik cache which supposedly is the source of increased battery life. I have personally never used GC, but flashed Humble on day one and fell in love with it compared to the stock ROM.
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
kejar31 said:
I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
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how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
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Because like it or not your opinion is based on perception and perception is easily fooled when it comes to battery life on these phones. I have seen it again and again. People believe that one ROM has better battery life than another bla bla bla.. Most if not all those people have no numbers to back up their assumption.. To top that off I am sure you did not recondition your battery stats before using each ROM.
And on top of all that its almost impossible to create an environment where you actually test each phone equally.
So what we have to go by is what is actually changed.. And I can tell you here and now... Its almost nothing, nothing under the hood is that much different at least in the modules and drivers and radio and kernel. And as someone who is a dev I can tell you that nothing about either ROM can make that much difference in battery life.
I have gotten good results and battery life from humble. First time i used gc it didnt do well on my phone. Not sure why. Second time around it was much better.
I also used altered beast v4 and it was just awful on my phone. Exchanged my phone for a new one and installed the same v4 as before and it was like a totally different rom.
I have had similar experiences with blackberries as well and if i remember correctly people always said roms act differently with other same model phones
I always set my phone up the same way and with the same apps and widgets.
I am of course referring to this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I tried to implement it about two months ago, and it did not work for me. Phone went into a loop at boot. I just gave up.
Anyone?
It would be really nice to find out if we can benefit from this as well.
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I am of course referring to this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
I tried to implement it about two months ago, and it did not work for me. Phone went into a loop at boot. I just gave up.
Anyone?
It would be really nice to find out if we can benefit from this as well.
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Instead of starting a new Thread why not post in the one you linked to. I am sure the ones there that tested it would be able to help. Any time you post in an old thread it will bring (bump) it to the top and btw it is still an active thread.
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Instead of starting a new Thread why not post in the one you linked to. I am sure the ones there that tested it would be able to help. Any time you post in an old thread it will bring (bump) it to the top and btw it is still an active thread.
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Thanks.
I posted it here because I am asking about LG G2x users. In the script thread, you won't find questions about specific devices so much. It's more on how to install, what does it do, and so on.
I tried it didn't bootloop or anything but I didn't notice any difference in performance etc.
I just started using the V6 supercharger about a month and a half ago on my LG G2x and have loved it. before this i was running minfree to change presets but I like V6 because it has lots of options for those that don't fully understand what the presets do. If you use a low setting you probably wont notice much of a difference and I must say that I notice the biggest difference when I am overclocked and using V6 at the same time. If I'm not overclocked and using V6 I don't notice much. same thing when I am just overclocked without V6, not much of a diff. Both together seem to be great.
Also to those with boot loop problems - how long are you leaving your phone before you decide it has looped...a few times i have just had to walk away from my phone for 15-20 minutes just so I'm not tempted to pull the battery and every time i have left it alone i come back to everything running fast, smooth and stable.
Currently running HellFire Phoenix 1.9
placebo effect.
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Yeah, "I get a performance gain when I'm overclocked with the script, but get no performance gain without OC and the script" so that would be the placebo effect.
However, V6 SuperCharger does work very well at setting the right OOM groupings and also makes everything a lot smoother for me. I'm underclocked to 750mhz and get the performance of the stock 1ghz.
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placebo effect.
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Eh, maybe, if you're on a lower end phone, I think the effect would be more noticeable as well, it would also be noticed if you ran alot of apps at once since multi tasking will take up more RAM than for someone like me who listens to music and browses the forum and maybe uses maps if I don't feel like paying attention to where I am at on the bus.
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Eh, maybe, if you're on a lower end phone, I think the effect would be more noticeable as well, it would also be noticed if you ran alot of apps at once since multi tasking will take up more RAM than for someone like me who listens to music and browses the forum and maybe uses maps if I don't feel like paying attention to where I am at on the bus.
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All true, but in hypocrats case it is complete placebo since he is using the lower setting.
He says he notices a performance gain with overclocking and the script, but none without overclocking and the script. Performance gain was all overclock.
But the higher settings work well, the script makes everything smooth, even for me at 750mhz, and will fix OOM groupings.
Maybe, but my battery life is better in standby and I have less issues with the stock internet browser. Below 100mb free and it became very buggy for me. I would love it if everyone shared what rom they are using and their settings. I am using close to the recommended settings.I am using New Clip (weapon based) and #5 unleaded.
Howdy, So I just got my first smart phone a few weeks ago, the AT&T Skyrocket. Kinda odd since I have been in IT works for many years that it took so long but could never afford the upgrade, my cars sap every spare penny lol.
After getting the phone I spent a few days getting to know it and then rooted it so I could use Titanium backup.
Now long story short due to an unrelated issue with ATT they sent me another phone to fix an issue I told them was on their end (and sure enough, it is, I think I figured it out though, anyone else get charged for a text message when the ATT family map "pings" the device?).
So for the time being I have 2 skyrocket phones and figured this was as good a time as any to try out another rom/kernal on the 2nd phone in case I don't like it my phone will remain untouched (I am picky about how my computers are setup).
So that is the history lesson, I have read sooo much the last few weeks it has gave me a good handle on the general process ect. My issue is picking out an actual rom/kernal to use, I have read so much they are all just one big garble of random info and I could use some advice to pick out what would work for me.
Here is what I want out of a rom/Kernal:
Clock speeds/voltages unlocked, I am an oldschool overclocker so naturally I feel everything can be made better.
Better battery life, Right now the battery life is ok but a bit too close for my tastes and I also feel it is just draining too fast for what I am doing (about ~8-10%/Hour average).
Some improvements like the light meter being linear vs having big steps would also be nice, I know the sensor itself can do it from the the screens but the software just goes in steps I guess.
Stable! I want something rock solid stable that I can count on for a long time to come.
Thats about it, The stock rom works fine for my needs minus those complaints. The clock/voltages being the biggest complaint if I had to go with only a kernal to keep a stable ROM.
So what suggestions do ya'll have? Is there by any chance a modded stock rom that is just debloated ect but will still be stable, that would work nice if it helped battery life some combined with a kernal I think.
I don't mind trying a few combos of roms/kernals but only have a week or 2 before I have to send this phone back and would need to fully test each one so I figure I only have time to do that on a handful in that time frame (I am very through)
Rom I have no clue what would work best for me. Kernal the Faux looks pretty good for my goals but I am not sure.
Any advice would be great.
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
Mhx's ICS ROM
This is the kernel that I use Faux's Kernel
Kagenui said:
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
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If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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This article sums it up nicely.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
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This article sums it up nicely.
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Thanks for that, I had not seen a list of the features listed out like that before. I think I am starting to see what all the buzz is now.
I plan on flashing the rom/kernel you posted earlier tonight, if anyone else has a suggestion for a follow up combo to try feel free to share!
Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
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Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
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Ah, yeah that would put that off for a little while. Think I might try it out before returning the phone so at least I know if I am interested in it but just gonna stick with the most stable gingerbread rom for now.
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
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Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
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Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
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Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
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No, modern = radio. I always flash the radio before the ROM
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
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I just flashed the 010m kernel on the stock rom to play with that first and ran into something I am not sure about.
I tried both system tuner and fauxclock, at first everything was working as it should then I noticed that the 2nd core said "offline" and it won't seem to come on no matter what even while running stress tests. Any ideas?
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That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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I tried that, the 2nd core stays offline no matter what I do unless I run setcpu.
I would just run setCPU but then I would not be able to undervolt. I wounder if I could use one of these scripts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20946429&postcount=574
That would take care of the undervolt and then use setcpu to handle the clock speeds? That would seem to be the best of both worlds.
not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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I tried it but didn't care for it. Still didn't have the profiling options I want. I like the setcpu since I can set it to have different CPU speeds at different times/situations. Maybe that is not worth the power savings. Whats wrong with setcpu?
I also had the same problem with system tuner as well, it would not bring the 2nd core online.
Hopefully this will help new users know what to try first and perhaps kernel devs to get less requests in their threads. Feel free to make a list of your top 5 mods/features or whatever and comment on specific mods/features.
for example, have you noticed zRam to make a perceivable difference?
note that I am leaving overclock out of the poll since it is kind of a given in any custom kernel.
My apologies if I forgot your favourite feature!
Still not sure what the point of this thread is.
Anyway, I don't overclock with custom kernels because it makes scrolling not smooth. I would rather my phone be smooth than have some pointless number in my CPU app. Zomg 2.000000gHz!!1!11111111!!!!!!!!!
With zRAM enabled I can leave 10 tabs open, and come back to them in a month and they're all still loaded.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Still not sure what the point of this thread is.
Anyway, I don't overclock with custom kernels because it makes scrolling not smooth. I would rather my phone be smooth than have some pointless number in my CPU app. Zomg 2.000000gHz!!1!11111111!!!!!!!!!
With zRAM enabled I can leave 10 tabs open, and come back to them in a month and they're all still loaded.
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Ironic that the point of the thread is in the op, and then you contributed to it by the second half of the reply. So is this a pointless thread, or did you have something to contribute? Make up your mind. Let's try to keep this thread tidy.
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I dunno, I guess I envision noobies reading the first post of whatever kernel they which to flash, which lists the various features of the kernel and what each option does. Having said that, that makes this thread redundant in my eyes. But hey, if that's what you want then I'm all for it! (hence the contribution)
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ECEXCURSION said:
I dunno, I guess I envision noobies reading the first post of whatever kernel they which to flash, which lists the various features of the kernel and what each option does. Having said that, that makes this thread redundant in my eyes. But hey, if that's what you want then I'm all for it! (hence the contribution)
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Fair enough. But not all features work as intended. Reading a feature list doesn't expose which things actually make the biggest difference.
For example, in my experience zRam helps multitasking, but often my phone grinds down to a slow pace with it. We might have noobs posting in Rom threads about how much lag the Rom has without realizing it's maybe the zRam they enabled just because it seems like a cool feature. Now there is more junk in the wrong threads.
Sure, they can read up on it elsewhere, but I thought it would be helpful to try and get one x specific info amalgamated into one place.
Also, with a new batch of kernels probably coming up soon with JB leaks maybe this will help kernel devs prioritize their development without a hundred people asking for stuff all the time.
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I see what you're saying.
What else do I like... I like the idea of OTG support although I have yet to use it. I also like the fps fix included with ElementalX for HDMI video.
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=JKT= said:
Fair enough. But not all features work as intended. Reading a feature list doesn't expose which things actually make the biggest difference.
For example, in my experience zRam helps multitasking, but often my phone grinds down to a slow pace with it. We might have noobs posting in Rom threads about how much lag the Rom has without realizing it's maybe the zRam they enabled just because it seems like a cool feature. Now there is more junk in the wrong threads.
Sure, they can read up on it elsewhere, but I thought it would be helpful to try and get one x specific info amalgamated into one place.
Also, with a new batch of kernels probably coming up soon with JB leaks maybe this will help kernel devs prioritize their development without a hundred people asking for stuff all the time.
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Zram shouldn't grind to a halt on this phone, maybe on older phones. Lowmemorykiller is still in effect and it's not writing to disk so it doesn't "thrash" like conventional swap. It's all written to fast ram and the performance penalty for compressing and decompressing is negligible with a fast dual core. I use it all the time.
flar2 said:
Zram shouldn't grind to a halt on this phone, maybe on older phones. Lowmemorykiller is still in effect and it's not writing to disk so it doesn't "thrash" like conventional swap. It's all written to fast ram and the performance penalty for compressing and decompressing is negligible with a fast dual core. I use it all the time.
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Well, If I can take anybody's word for it, its yours lol. It must have been something else then.
The only other thing I changed was starting to use chrome, and when I was multitasking between chrome and anything else it was super slow...even to reopen the keyboard.
This is the kind of discussion i'd like to foster in this thread. (even if it means being wrong)
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You're not necessarily wrong, I'm sure it could happen in certain situations. I find chrome to be very heavy on phones (complete opposite of chrome on the desktop). It may have kicked everything out of memory. That usually doesn't happen because most phone apps are fairly light.
Id love to see lulactive govener working on this phone but mabie thats not possible on my gs2 it is awsome for battery life.
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Id love to see lulactive govener working on this phone but mabie thats not possible on my gs2 it is awsome for battery life.
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Ya I agree, I usually underclock for battery purposes
Alright so I dont have a list but I am going to say that when I enable sweep2wake, I notice some lag all the way around the phone. Overclocking to 1728 has always been perfect for me. Can someone also look into otg on jellybean? I've been having alot of trouble getting that to work.
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Alright so I dont have a list but I am going to say that when I enable sweep2wake, I notice some lag all the way around the phone. Overclocking to 1728 has always been perfect for me. Can someone also look into otg on jellybean? I've been having alot of trouble getting that to work.
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I think otg is supported in the jb sense stock kernel. (NB If you go to storage, at the very bottom there is a bar for usb storage.)
However, I haven't tried it for myself yet. Reading around I saw that the first time you may need to leave it plugged in for a while for it to register. some users reported leaving the phone with otg plugged and coming back later and it had shown up.
I wish I could remember which rom thread that was...but that's basically all that was mentioned.
Edit: Also, I don't know if the stock jb kernel will self power the otg device. You may need the special cable, if you weren't already.
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So I keep hearing complaints about "lag" with the Galaxy S4. Some of you have it and some don't.
Well, debloating your ROM (removing junk apps that you don't use) will typically reduce lag since these extra apps aren't fighting for system resources. But that doesn't work for everyone.
Another thing to do is to flash an AOSP (android open source project) ROM. These ROM's (including gapps) are usually less than 300MB in total size, while a stock or even debloated stock TouchWiz ROM are almost always 800MB to 1.3+GB in size.
Another thing you can try is to install "Seeder". Some folks will suggest it doesn't really do anything for you. Some others will say it uses up a lot of battery. So I guess every application is different. Because for me, even with an AOSP ROM, I seem to get slightly faster system response time when I click on something. And I've left my phone alone over eight+hours and checked battery useage and don't see Seeder anywhere taking up any battery.
Here is the Seeder main application thread. There, you can "thank" the developer (lambgx02) and also ask questions about the app. You can also download Seeder from that thread for free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Or, you can be a nice person and "buy" the app from the Play Store. At less than $2, it's not very expensive.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en
You can either read about how/why the app works or doesn't. Or you can try it for yourself.
For me, it's a must-have on the S4 since even AOSP ROM's still have a small amount of lag when compared with the smoothed-out ROM's on the S3.\
REQUIREMENTS:
-Rooted ROM
-Canadian or USA or Euro S4's, it works for all of them.
-TouchWiz or AOSP, it doesn't matter which.
So, here's how to install it:
1) Download Seeder to your internal or external SD card. It doesn't matter where.
2) Using Root Explorer (or your file browser of choice), locate and click on the seeder.apk.
3) Select "Install".
4) Select "Install" again.
5) Click "open".
6) Read the disclaimer and click "OK".
7) Grant root permissions:
8) Make your settings identical to mine (to start with). I've actually since changed mine from "Moderate" to "Aggressive" because I noticed no change in battery life. So, why not.
9) Now reboot.
10) Wait two minutes after the phone comes back up (to allow background start-up processes to finish) and start using phone normally.
Good luck, hope it works for you as well as it works for me. This is not a "cure-all" for lag, but it should help speed up an otherwise healthy system.
Don't expect miracles either. Only a really fubard'd ROM might show HUGE differences. But this app will probably help a little bit.
I had tried this program on my ATT GNOTE after the new JB update that seemed to slow everyone's phones to a crawl. It did help somewhat, but not enough for it to become bearable.. Caved and bought the S4. Seems like the app DOES work.
This app is a myth that has been busted even by the xda portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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Try this instead
plwalsh88 said:
This app is a myth that has been busted even by the xda portal.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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I endorse the posting of this link. I actually intended to do so in the OP when I was typing up the original post (and lost it all to a BSOD).
The article refers more to the theory behind the "fix".
But end results are end results, and the app works for some people. It also does not work for some other folks.
Like I said in the OP, try it and see how it works for you.
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I endorse the posting of this link. I actually intended to do so in the OP when I was typing up the original post (and lost it all to a BSOD).
The article refers more to the theory behind the "fix".
But end results are end results, and the app works for some people. It also does not work for some other folks.
Like I said in the OP, try it and see how it works for you.
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Right, and it shows that the theory behind the "fix" is flawed, having no effect on app execution. The only positive performance you're seeing is a result of boosting CPU speeds. It's not saying you're not seeing results. It's just that you're seeing them for the wrong reason; the same of which can be achieved by changing your CPU governor.
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the same of which can be achieved by changing your CPU governor.
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Negative. Because I've seen results on top of overlocking and governor changes.
CZ Eddie said:
Negative. Because I've seen results on top of overlocking and governor changes.
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I highly, highly doubt any other positive effects can be discernible on top of overclocking.
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The system lags because touchwiz has many many features beyond those that you can just simply remove with titanium backup and such, there are a lot of features;what they seem to call them. That adjust color and lighting beyond ambient at all times no matter what. Samsung needs to release an update which I know they're cooking up, that optimizes these resource hog and debugs that are constantly running in the background... Let's just hope we get it soon and not have to wait till 4.3 to get it. The only way to get rid of all of the lag is to switch to also otherwise there will always be a tad amount of it, until samsung fixes it themselves; there's only so much developers can conjure up
The only way to get rid of the lag is by installing a custom ROM, either AOSP/AOKP or a TW based ROM like Omega or Winam. Then installing a custom, polished kernel like KT's kernel. Then disabling the scroll cache.
That makes this thing run like it should have in the first place.
Yeah seeder sucks sorry to say its not actually doing much.