Title says most. I am going to be getting my charge on tuesday and have been doing some research about what rom to try, and gave it narrowed down to these two. which one do you like more and why? I have read the threads on both and they seem pretty even, just wondering which one you prefer and why...thanks for any and all responses!
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA Premium App
Perhaps you did not research enough, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171270&highlight=humble
they are both good but I prefer Humble because of the battery savings...Gummy is very snazzy looking though and works pretty much flawlessly and quick. Its a tough choice honestly but I personally want/need the battery to be as efficient as possible and for the Rom to do everything I need it to do.....Humble does that for me..as an example I have been unplugged for 9 hours---dropped 31% battery! I say thats a pretty nice win!
Of course your mileage may vary and everyones battery life is different...I think either way you will be happy...I say try both for a few days each and see
I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA Premium App
Heard that, thats why I never work on my familys phone anymore. Lol.
Why do you have to flash it on both of their phones? Just try it yourself and then give out the goods lol,
rand4ll said:
I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
nitsuj17 said:
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
nitsuj17 said:
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
chiahead52 said:
I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
nitsuj17 said:
There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
I was using imnuts pbj voodoo kernel and decided to try gummycharged and it just locked up the phone, sloooooow reaction to moving screens, scrolling, opening apps, etc and would lock up all the time... might've been my imagination but data (3G/4G) seemed flaky too, even after several wipes and reflashes. Guess my Charge doesn't like it Oh well I just loaded up the debloated EE4 and it flies with imnuts kernel
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge
hockeybpr25 said:
I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
msticlaru said:
First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
uhmmmm i want better battery life. i'm a CS major too so i'm fine with technology, i just never wanted to pay the 30 a month for data until now. and i've had the phone for a few weeks now.
Humble has great battery life, don't want to disregard what Nitsuj said but I swear I have much better battery life switching over to Humble then I did on GC. It might just be the battery gremlins but the battery life was noticeably different, maybe it's just my imagination since its advertised to be a low power ROM.
Humble has some cool animations, it's sort of a love hate thing. You may get incredibly sick of it after awhile but you can easily turn the option off.
Humble is updated very frequently, that might not be a good thing for you. It's very easy to flash the updated versions if you're already on Humble but you may not want to keep downloading new updates every few days, I personally love it. Keeps the ROM fresh.
Humble doesn't have that nasty freeze/reboot issue that happened about once every day or two on GC. Might have been a bad flash but I read about others saying it happened to them as well.
I believe Humble has an increased Dalvik cache which supposedly is the source of increased battery life. I have personally never used GC, but flashed Humble on day one and fell in love with it compared to the stock ROM.
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.4
chiahead52 said:
well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
kejar31 said:
I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
chiahead52 said:
well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
chiahead52 said:
how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because like it or not your opinion is based on perception and perception is easily fooled when it comes to battery life on these phones. I have seen it again and again. People believe that one ROM has better battery life than another bla bla bla.. Most if not all those people have no numbers to back up their assumption.. To top that off I am sure you did not recondition your battery stats before using each ROM.
And on top of all that its almost impossible to create an environment where you actually test each phone equally.
So what we have to go by is what is actually changed.. And I can tell you here and now... Its almost nothing, nothing under the hood is that much different at least in the modules and drivers and radio and kernel. And as someone who is a dev I can tell you that nothing about either ROM can make that much difference in battery life.
I have gotten good results and battery life from humble. First time i used gc it didnt do well on my phone. Not sure why. Second time around it was much better.
I also used altered beast v4 and it was just awful on my phone. Exchanged my phone for a new one and installed the same v4 as before and it was like a totally different rom.
I have had similar experiences with blackberries as well and if i remember correctly people always said roms act differently with other same model phones
I always set my phone up the same way and with the same apps and widgets.
Related
I looked around but it doesnt appear that we dont have an sbc kernel, so Im calling out to see if as dev would be willing to make one.
i second that. we def need sbc for nexus s and nexus s 4g. i love the phone, but it never charges to 100% always stalls at 94-95. I have used SBC on evo since it came it came out. never had any issues. and the battery life was amazing. hopefully someone takes the initiative and cooks a sbc kernel.
thanx in advance
zikronix said:
I looked around but it doesnt appear that we dont have an sbc kernel, so Im calling out to see if as dev would be willing to make one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think netarchy said it would not be possible on the ns 4g. He also recommends not using them anyway. I trust his judgement
The jury is out on that one. The SBC for the evo I used since the beginning and never had an issue, just amazing battery life. Though I am getting great battery life on this phone too. Not sure what the complaints are. Try an evo first then come to the nexus. The difference will be astounding.
•••Nexus S 4G•••
mikeyinid said:
I think netarchy said it would not be possible on the ns 4g. He also recommends not using them anyway. I trust his judgement
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it can be done. i respect netarchy's opinion, but at the end of the day its his opinion. not a fact. like many others i haven't had a single issue with SBC on my evo. if netarchy is worried about causing damage to the phone we shouldnt be using custom kernels at all. we should't be OC . he is contradicting himself. like i said i respect his work and his opinion, but it should be upto people to decide if they want to install SBC or not. SBC is just as bad as OC your phone. At the end of the day with OC you might ruin your phone with SBC you will just ruin your battery. i am willing to take that chance. i hope and wish someone will incorporate SBC. Hopefully its Tiamat. his kernels are a piece of work. i have used all of their kernels for my evo (netarchy, savaged, tiamat) and tiamat came out victorious time and time again.
SBC is for HTC kernels, you crazy bastards
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
matt2053 said:
SBC is for HTC kernels, you crazy bastards
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol, I didn't know that. I was hoping we would see it on the NS4G. I used ZenDroid and then SavagedZen SBC on my Evo and I would get a couple days with it. I loved it.
Ha ha, I wasnt gonna argue with em lol.
matt2053 said:
SBC is for HTC kernels, you crazy bastards
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
Sigh.. This is why the rest of the android world hates cdma users this topic has been already discussed elsewhere has been posted in the appropriate section
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
teshxx said:
it can be done. i respect netarchy's opinion, but at the end of the day its his opinion. not a fact. like many others i haven't had a single issue with SBC on my evo. if netarchy is worried about causing damage to the phone we shouldnt be using custom kernels at all. we should't be OC . he is contradicting himself. like i said i respect his work and his opinion, but it should be upto people to decide if they want to install SBC or not. SBC is just as bad as OC your phone. At the end of the day with OC you might ruin your phone with SBC you will just ruin your battery. i am willing to take that chance. i hope and wish someone will incorporate SBC. Hopefully its Tiamat. his kernels are a piece of work. i have used all of their kernels for my evo (netarchy, savaged, tiamat) and tiamat came out victorious time and time again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never said it couldn't be done. I said it would probably not end up in my builds.
I've made no contradiction to myself, I personally don't support it. I made it available in some evo builds by request with an -at your own risk, unsupported- approach.
There are established and definite risks with truly charging a lithium ion battery to full capacity. On the low end of the spectrum, you may simply be shortening some time off the full life of the battery. Whether or not you run into it is a crapshoot of course.
I believe the comment of mine you're going off of was from yesterday at a point in my day when I was already in somewhat of a foul mood from events happening in life, so I was probably a bit harsher than intended (and I've made an edit to try and clear up any possible confusion). ;D
That said, I believe you are more likely to damage the battery in the long term than you are to damage your phone by trying to overclock with the safety caps where they are in my builds.
I also happen to believe that there is a lot more to running a custom kernel than simply the ability to OC, so implying that one shouldn't run a custom kernel because of any potential to damage the phone from overclocking is silly.
Maybe I'm being overly paranoid on the topic of SBC. If that is the case, I can always reserve the right to admit that I was wrong on a topic. I've been wrong about something before, I'll be wrong about something again in the future; I'm human after all ;D.
All that said, the first thing to do if you want to adapt SBC over is most likely to see what power levels are used as caps in the charging code.
netarchy said:
I never said it couldn't be done. I said it would probably not end up in my builds.
I've made no contradiction to myself, I personally don't support it. I made it available in some evo builds by request with an -at your own risk, unsupported- approach.
There are established and definite risks with truly charging a lithium ion battery to full capacity. On the low end of the spectrum, you may simply be shortening some time off the full life of the battery. Whether or not you run into it is a crapshoot of course.
I believe the comment of mine you're going off of was from yesterday at a point in my day when I was already in somewhat of a foul mood from events happening in life, so I was probably a bit harsher than intended (and I've made an edit to try and clear up any possible confusion). ;D
That said, I believe you are more likely to damage the battery in the long term than you are to damage your phone by trying to overclock with the safety caps where they are in my builds.
I also happen to believe that there is a lot more to running a custom kernel than simply the ability to OC, so implying that one shouldn't run a custom kernel because of any potential to damage the phone from overclocking is silly.
Maybe I'm being overly paranoid on the topic of SBC. If that is the case, I can always reserve the right to admit that I was wrong on a topic. I've been wrong about something before, I'll be wrong about something again in the future; I'm human after all ;D.
All that said, the first thing to do if you want to adapt SBC over is most likely to see what power levels are used as caps in the charging code.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very good response and I respect both sides of the argument cause none of us really has definitive proof. I just came from an Evo and used SBC kernels for as long as they were out. I love them and miss having that "boost" on my Nexus 4G. Regarding the life of my battery, I figured that when that time came, I'd just buy a new battery.
Either way, thanks to the devs for their hard work.
Users that visit this site don't keep their phones long enough to see the battery degrade (my opinion). I used sbc since it was first released and I only experienced better battery life, nothing negative. I'll use your kernel with sbc or without, you do good work. Its your kernel.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
atoy74 said:
Very good response and I respect both sides of the argument cause none of us really has definitive proof. I just came from an Evo and used SBC kernels for as long as they were out. I love them and miss having that "boost" on my Nexus 4G. Regarding the life of my battery, I figured that when that time came, I'd just buy a new battery.
Either way, thanks to the devs for their hard work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree...My batt life on my evo sucked and I used sbc and it made it alot better...allthough on this 4g the stock kernel still blows away the evo in batt life period, i was just looking for that little extra ooomph
now for the person who said thats why the rest of the android users hate cdma. Im all for GSM but in arizona all gsm carriers suck. But I do envy the gsm technology it is power effiecent, slimmer, and generally better hardware.
I also searched for SBC in the forums...didnt see anything that really pertained, all though it was also midnight when I looked.
Thanks for your insight netarchy. I love your work, if I knew how to do It I would. I used to build roms for winmo devices...but for the life of me I cant wrap my head around this android dev ****.
I don't know what sbc is I guess I misread netarchy's post about it in the general section. My apologies.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
netarchy said:
I never said it couldn't be done. I said it would probably not end up in my builds.
I've made no contradiction to myself, I personally don't support it. I made it available in some evo builds by request with an -at your own risk, unsupported- approach.
There are established and definite risks with truly charging a lithium ion battery to full capacity. On the low end of the spectrum, you may simply be shortening some time off the full life of the battery. Whether or not you run into it is a crapshoot of course.
I believe the comment of mine you're going off of was from yesterday at a point in my day when I was already in somewhat of a foul mood from events happening in life, so I was probably a bit harsher than intended (and I've made an edit to try and clear up any possible confusion). ;D
That said, I believe you are more likely to damage the battery in the long term than you are to damage your phone by trying to overclock with the safety caps where they are in my builds.
I also happen to believe that there is a lot more to running a custom kernel than simply the ability to OC, so implying that one shouldn't run a custom kernel because of any potential to damage the phone from overclocking is silly.
Maybe I'm being overly paranoid on the topic of SBC. If that is the case, I can always reserve the right to admit that I was wrong on a topic. I've been wrong about something before, I'll be wrong about something again in the future; I'm human after all ;D.
All that said, the first thing to do if you want to adapt SBC over is most likely to see what power levels are used as caps in the charging code.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its cool dude. we all crappy days. i respect your work and your opinion and i/we don't take all you devs for granted. I know you guys do it bc you have a passion for it. Thanx for responding.
I just rooted a couple days ago. I went with imnuts Voodoo Lagfix Kernel and also his EE4 Debloated v4.2.1. Coming from the HTC world this is all a little new to me. The #1 reason i rooted was for tethering(I'll take my chances with Big Red) so I know that it doesnt matter which ROM I use for that. But I also want to take advantage of possibly having better battery life and if its possible, increasing my 4g signal. Im in the charge and drain battery process of battery calibration now so i know that should help. But what about the 4g signal? Ive read that gummychared may help that, but is that claim substantiated? One thing is that I DO NOT want to sacrifice stability. I really dont care much about theming or customization, Im actually satisfied with LauncherPro, it customizes all I need. So I guess the question is, which ROM offers the best functionality rather than customization?
I don't think a rom effects signal strength.. Thats more of the radio.. I could be wrong tho.. Alot of people go to humble cus it has great battery life after calibration.. Go with the EE4 edition because its froyo and more stable.. You will need to recalibrate your battery again after you flash tho...... ALSOOOO post questions in general
Sent from the mind-controlled device of @Rsqweezy
just my two cents but i would stay on stock if you want stability since no custom rom is "perfect" (not saying stock is either).
that being said, i've been using gummy for a while and haven't had any major issues. yea, i've had a few random reboots (once every few days) but other than that its great and everything just works.
ahh. sorry. can a mod please move this to general?
I would go Eclipse or Humble if you want more of a stock/non-customized experience.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1
eclipse 1.3.1 is the best.
Battery life is 99% dependent on your kernel -- the ROM really doesn't matter at all. And you'll get the best battery life with imnuts' non-overlock PBJ kernel.
Anyways, as far as ROM goes, I'd also recommend Eclipse. Definitely the best ROM if you want to just flash it and be done.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
I'm like you, that my first priority is stability and useability. I started on WM then was in iOS for awhile, and now to Android. As much as I can't stand a lot of the draconian pieces of Apple, I will give them a lot of credit for putting together something that is consistent, seamless and just seems to work.
I've been lukewarm on Eclipse there's some things missing that I need to either repair or go back to Humble for (Namely missing the bluetooth voice dial functionality). I've also experienced some odd anomalies with Eclipse that I didn't see with Humble. I'm curious to try out one of the Gingerbread ROMs- mainly to see if the updated radios make a big difference or not (signal strength=>Battery life). I've also just been waiting on updates to Humble etc too. Haven't tried Gummy yet, and with either Humble or Eclipse I've experienced zero reboots.
As far as battery life goes, I've found that the biggest difference is where you're at (Kernel too)...meaning that when I'm at home or work and on wifi, I get reasonable battery life...if I'm commuting, or out downtown it starts plummeting...I tend to leave 4G on just for convenience...3G seems to be a bit better on battery life, but more often than not I end up on a call and need to look something up and end up turning 4G back on anyway. This is as you've noticed that when Wifi is enabled the cellular data goes off, and wifi is a much lower drain on battery than cellular data.
Check out "Setting Profiles" it's a pretty good app that lets you define profiles for location, time of day etc to control radios etc. If you set location based on GPS that can kill battery, but you can also define location by WiFi SSID which works like a charm. This way when I get home I can crank ringer volume etc, but when at work it's on silent etc. I've noticed minimal if any impact to the battery because of it too.
Thanks for that reply. I think I'm leaning more towards Humble. From what I've read it seems like the simplest, just put it on and leave it alone, type of ROM out there. I wasn't too worried about the look of it as I use Launcherpro but I just also read that Launcherpro might be a bit of a battery drain. So I think I'll load Humble up and see how I like it.
I really liked Humble. I'm running Eclipse right now, because I really liked the color scheme and feel of the theme. Functionally, I think they're both up to par (as was gummy).
I feel like I got better battery with Humble, but I'm not sure. I know its dependent on the kernel, but I also don't know if the packaged kernel was undervolted to make a difference. I just installed pbj oc on my phone today (was running the non oc version before) and am going to see if undervolting makes a tangible difference in battery life. It could just be that the phone has lost that "new feeling" or that Humble was advertised as having great battery life that skewed my perception.
Humble is awesome. It's kind of a bland, non customizable experience with great stability. Never once had any problems with Humble. If you're just looking to have a phone that "works" then I would suggest Humble, don't get it if you like to install themes or do other such things. What you see is what you get.
Eclipse on the other hand is more for customization(like gummycharged with all its themes). It's running a modified TW4 and it looks great, I LOVE all the Galaxy S2 widgets Nitro included in this ROM. That's the only reason I flashed it over humble. It's already got a great looking Honeycomb theme and soon there's going to be a red/black theme. There is only 1 real problem with Eclipse and that's the fact that 'clearing RAM' through your Task Manager can cause TWLauncher(TouchWiz) to close and force restart, basically freezing your phone for a good 15 seconds. It happens alot, I just kicked my habit of clearing RAM since apparently it does that by itself.
So the choice is yours, a bland non customizable ROM with great stability = Humble. An awesome looking ROM with tons of customizations and features = Eclipse
It would be doing a disservice both to the OP and to kejar and teamgummy to not point out that Humble is built off of GC.
They're all solid experiences.
I haven't had to tweak ... anything... really in gummy charged, it's clean and functional, the themes are a nice addition but I use the default theme anyway.
Please read this before you go crazy on me saying I haven't searched for this because I have. I've updated from every ROM of ICS thats dropped after reading up on them and the fastest and best working everyday ROM for ICS is BrainMaster's ICSv5 with Franco's Kernel 11/25. I haven't tried 11/26 but I've read the colors are much better on 25 and I believe it because its the best my screen has ever looked. SHARP!
So here's my issue. I want this as an everyday user, and I'm sure it can be. I just need to know how to set up the battery so that it lasts longer. I just restarted my phone and cleared all the battery info. Before I unplugged it at 6:30pm EST I had 91%. After very, very minor use (looked up the number for Home Depot and downloaded Amazon Market) I got back home at 9:30 and my battery was at 39%. Thats 60% in 3 hours. Thats terrible. How can I adjust the batter life? Can I use NSTools to do so or do I need to change code? I don't want to change the kernel completely because the colors truly are AMAZING with this version.
Please let me know, and thank you in advance!
Best regards,
Tula
Well, which app or function specifically is causing the drain? Did you look at the battery usage? Were you in an area with poor signal reception?
Before you trash a rom and kernel with a poorly conceived thread, try troubleshooting the problem.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
For what it's worth, the only time I've gotten that kind of battery life is when a NFC process decided to start and run nonstop. No idea why it was running (particularly since I don't have Wallet configured), but since then I keep NFC disabled.
When that happened it was similar battery life - lost about 70% in 3 1/2 hours.
I never once trashed the ROM or the kernel? What are you talking about? Before reading into something for more than what it is you should take it for what it is. I don't know what the problem is, everyone else seems to be having a great amount of battery life. I'm asking on here, in this forum, because I figured someone (maybe a programmer who knows these things) can tell me how to "properly" config it. Idk what the deal is with it but I was looking for insight. I love the ROM and the kernel and I do believe I stated in the post that I wanted to keep it as a daily user. SO, either you can help me and teach me how to fix the problem or teach me to give you what info you need or do me a favor and don't waste my time. I'm looking for answers or suggestions. Not accusations and negativity.
"Poorly concieved thread!" Whats "poorly conceived" about it? The fact that I reached out on a FORUM and asked for HELP? Go comment on somebody else with that bullsh*t.
Reread your thread title; calling something "garbage" is not trashing it?
Reread and answer the questions asked in post #2. Nobody can do anything to help if you don't provide basic information or perform rudimentary problem-solving procedure.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
Did you calibrate battery? I'm on this setup and I'm getting a day.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
FLyTula said:
Please read this before you go crazy on me saying I haven't searched for this because I have. I've updated from every ROM of ICS thats dropped after reading up on them and the fastest and best working everyday ROM for ICS is BrainMaster's ICSv5 with Franco's Kernel 11/25. I haven't tried 11/26 but I've read the colors are much better on 25 and I believe it because its the best my screen has ever looked. SHARP!
So here's my issue. I want this as an everyday user, and I'm sure it can be. I just need to know how to set up the battery so that it lasts longer. I just restarted my phone and cleared all the battery info. Before I unplugged it at 6:30pm EST I had 91%. After very, very minor use (looked up the number for Home Depot and downloaded Amazon Market) I got back home at 9:30 and my battery was at 39%. Thats 60% in 3 hours. Thats terrible. How can I adjust the batter life? Can I use NSTools to do so or do I need to change code? I don't want to change the kernel completely because the colors truly are AMAZING with this version.
Please let me know, and thank you in advance!
Best regards,
Tula
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well man what i did with mine was calibrated the battery which means charge the battery completely then boot into recovery wipe battery stats then unplug and reboot then use it for 5 mins then charge fully again then unplug and drain completely till it shuts off on its own then fully charge again and it should be calibrated.. sounds like alot.. i kno lol but trust me it works and then if ur battery life doesnt extend after that (which it should) then i would look at what it is thats using the most matter (menu>settings>battery and go from there.. also make sure u have all the apps that will allow u to move to sd moved there it keeps them from running in the background and also make sure ur screen brightness is set low.. i took my auto brightness off and just turned it down just bright enough to see.. i know the colors looks fly like a bag of skittles when u got the brightness up wit franco kernel but it kills battery lol. hopefully that works for u pimpin and sorry for the novel lol just wanted to give u a few options to try.
JG & Freshie, thank you. And Braneless, you must be Braneless, because if YOU could read you'd see that my title says BATTERY LIFE is garbage. Not the ROM or the Kernel. BATTERY LIFE!
You seriously are 0 for 2 with trying to make me look like an idiot. I guess thats why you have almost 600 post and only 50 some odd thanks. Because half the time you're just bashing people trying to make it seem like you know it all when you can't even read a title correctly.
As far as the battery, I followed your instructions JG and also I started from the beginning and deleted all installs and reset to factory. I then installed each ROM from v1 all the way up and now EVERYTHING works and I got almost 2 hours out of my phone today and used 9%! WHOOHOOO!
Thanks again to the read Googlers who want to HELP OUT instead of trying to make people look like idiots.
AWESOME!
I had this problem too, but in my case it was the Google Wallet app. It drained the my battery in like 4 hours. After uninstalling it, all went back to normal.
Now if you said battery life on a rom kernel combo was FANTASTIC.
What would that imply? Thanks guys etc.
You go through all the trouble to make the thread but not spend a couple seconds to check what actually used up the battery.
Omfg this thread title just made lol all over the place haha
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
FLyTula said:
JG & Freshie, thank you. And Braneless, you must be Braneless, because if YOU could read you'd see that my title says BATTERY LIFE is garbage. Not the ROM or the Kernel. BATTERY LIFE!
You seriously are 0 for 2 with trying to make me look like an idiot. I guess thats why you have almost 600 post and only 50 some odd thanks. Because half the time you're just bashing people trying to make it seem like you know it all when you can't even read a title correctly.
As far as the battery, I followed your instructions JG and also I started from the beginning and deleted all installs and reset to factory. I then installed each ROM from v1 all the way up and now EVERYTHING works and I got almost 2 hours out of my phone today and used 9%! WHOOHOOO!
Thanks again to the read Googlers who want to HELP OUT instead of trying to make people look like idiots.
AWESOME!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad i can help
I'd recommend trying out Nexus MV 2.xx its the best daily driver so far. battery will make it through the day, i used it for a quite a while. Now trying out the alpha 13, but will go back to MV if this doesn't cut it. I tried BM too but didnt notice too much difference from Kwiboo and the earlier CM9 A 11.
looking in the samsung infuse's super thread i saw some tweaks that could improve the battery life of my device. One is thunderbolt tweak by pikachu01 and the other one is Universal Adrenaline Shotv13 by dsexton702.. Which one has better results in battery life? or if i could use the two tweaks and if it would be okay? i flashed catyrom and infusion kernel about a week ago and already calibrated the battery but i still want to get more battery because it doenst last too much any other recommendation to improve this would be all right too
Try ZEUS ROM, The best battery life i have got on any infused rom so far.
tuto3324 said:
looking in the samsung infuse's super thread i saw some tweaks that could improve the battery life of my device. One is thunderbolt tweak by pikachu01 and the other one is Universal Adrenaline Shotv13 by dsexton702.. Which one has better results in battery life? or if i could use the two tweaks and if it would be okay? i flashed catyrom and infusion kernel about a week ago and already calibrated the battery but i still want to get more battery because it doenst last too much any other recommendation to improve this would be all right too
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't calibrate the battery. It does nothing to your life, I promise. Studachris posted a link to a Google Engineer saying it does nothing but mess stuff up. I'm with the guy above me, Zeus. Take the jump.
Oh.. Define: Bad battery life
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Try NumasX v1.1 Has the same battery life Zeus. Battery life mostly depends on use and user.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using Tapatalk
Avoid USAS - Some of the changes it makes trade off data integrity for performance (without notifying the user of this fact - probably because the creater doesn't even know what the hell he actually did). So I would avoid it.
In general, most of these comprehensive tweak scripts are bad news - very often the creater throws crap in there that they don't even understand.
v6 Supercharger nearly destroyed a few Tab Plus users' batteries by screwing around with kernel reboot-on-panic settings.
When it comes to tweak scripts - research tweaks, learn what they actually do, THEN apply them individually.
Quite a few of these are also valid for Infuse (but not all) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378080
rkkaranrk said:
Try ZEUS ROM, The best battery life i have got on any infused rom so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Zeus was the first rom i tried and i had problems with wifi it was constantly disconnected and i didnt found a solution, so i changed the rom haha but i will give it another try later, maybe it was a flashing problem
rkkaranrk said:
Oh.. Define: Bad battery life
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
less than 12 hours haha i start my day at 8 am and at 6 pm it is at 15%... i do normal use of the cellphone, i dont even have 4g so i only use internet when a wifi network is around haha
Entropy512 said:
Avoid USAS - Some of the changes it makes trade off data integrity for performance (without notifying the user of this fact - probably because the creater doesn't even know what the hell he actually did). So I would avoid it.
In general, most of these comprehensive tweak scripts are bad news - very often the creater throws crap in there that they don't even understand.
v6 Supercharger nearly destroyed a few Tab Plus users' batteries by screwing around with kernel reboot-on-panic settings.
When it comes to tweak scripts - research tweaks, learn what they actually do, THEN apply them individually.
Quite a few of these are also valid for Infuse (but not all) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378080
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info haha i will give them a try
I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?
Daedalus_ said:
I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.
bhundven said:
Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
Daedalus_ said:
The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then just leave the phone off?!? That's the best battery saving rom EVAH!
Daedalus_ said:
The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.
th3controller said:
I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.
Daedalus_ said:
You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda app-developers app
gregcapps said:
Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please state with reasons and what variables there are and what the tradeoffs are or you are talking out of your ass. Of course people's usages vary, but if you keep your usage constant while changing roms like you typically would or have a composite number than your can compare roms for battery life.
It's seriously not that hard to quantify which roms last longer on battery. This is ridiculous.
If it's that easy to you (may be?), do the testing and post the results. Document and publish your methodology so it can be peer reviewed. Please keep it up to date as ROMs are updated.
I look forward to your findings.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda app-developers app
I just told you that gingerbread roms have great battery life.
There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .
eollie said:
There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I've said before, usages vary but it's pretty reasonable to think that some people have used a few roms while keeping their usage constant. What makes it frustrating is that the people on this thread spew some faux wisdom that it's impossible to compare which it isn't.
I've had pretty good battery life so far with HebMIUI when it comes to ICS. Of course, GB ROMS such as Valhalla Final, Valhalla Black, and Octane are known for the excellent battery life.
Thread closed
All of this is far too subjective. Try them and make your own decision.