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Humble vs gummy froyo

Title says most. I am going to be getting my charge on tuesday and have been doing some research about what rom to try, and gave it narrowed down to these two. which one do you like more and why? I have read the threads on both and they seem pretty even, just wondering which one you prefer and why...thanks for any and all responses!
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Perhaps you did not research enough, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171270&highlight=humble

they are both good but I prefer Humble because of the battery savings...Gummy is very snazzy looking though and works pretty much flawlessly and quick. Its a tough choice honestly but I personally want/need the battery to be as efficient as possible and for the Rom to do everything I need it to do.....Humble does that for me..as an example I have been unplugged for 9 hours---dropped 31% battery! I say thats a pretty nice win!
Of course your mileage may vary and everyones battery life is different...I think either way you will be happy...I say try both for a few days each and see

I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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Heard that, thats why I never work on my familys phone anymore. Lol.

Why do you have to flash it on both of their phones? Just try it yourself and then give out the goods lol,
rand4ll said:
I will be trying both personally...but I have to flash one on both my daughters and wifes phones as well..and they hate it when I change their rom after they her their phone setup
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No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results

nitsuj17 said:
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?

nitsuj17 said:
No one seems to get that battery life is 99 percentinfluenced by the kernel....most framework mods that claim battery savings are either placebo or stupidity
Humble gets good battery life because it packagesimnuts undervolt kernel in
Use the same kernel with gc and you will get virtually identical results
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I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry

chiahead52 said:
I used the same kernel on both..not the same battery consumption..sorry
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There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something

nitsuj17 said:
There is little to nothing in a rom that would impact battery life unless there is an app that is not letting the phone sleep if something
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well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one

I was using imnuts pbj voodoo kernel and decided to try gummycharged and it just locked up the phone, sloooooow reaction to moving screens, scrolling, opening apps, etc and would lock up all the time... might've been my imagination but data (3G/4G) seemed flaky too, even after several wipes and reflashes. Guess my Charge doesn't like it Oh well I just loaded up the debloated EE4 and it flies with imnuts kernel
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge

hockeybpr25 said:
I'm completely 100% as noob when it comes to this as my Charge is the first smartphone I've ever had and I really want gummyCHARGED but i want good battery life. So how do I do this?
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First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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msticlaru said:
First smart phone u have ever had and you want to mod it before u even have it? How do u even know about smartphone mods without having a smartphone as a frame of reference?
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uhmmmm i want better battery life. i'm a CS major too so i'm fine with technology, i just never wanted to pay the 30 a month for data until now. and i've had the phone for a few weeks now.

Humble has great battery life, don't want to disregard what Nitsuj said but I swear I have much better battery life switching over to Humble then I did on GC. It might just be the battery gremlins but the battery life was noticeably different, maybe it's just my imagination since its advertised to be a low power ROM.
Humble has some cool animations, it's sort of a love hate thing. You may get incredibly sick of it after awhile but you can easily turn the option off.
Humble is updated very frequently, that might not be a good thing for you. It's very easy to flash the updated versions if you're already on Humble but you may not want to keep downloading new updates every few days, I personally love it. Keeps the ROM fresh.
Humble doesn't have that nasty freeze/reboot issue that happened about once every day or two on GC. Might have been a bad flash but I read about others saying it happened to them as well.

I believe Humble has an increased Dalvik cache which supposedly is the source of increased battery life. I have personally never used GC, but flashed Humble on day one and fell in love with it compared to the stock ROM.
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chiahead52 said:
well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.

kejar31 said:
I hate it when people that obviously have no clue as to what they are talking about start making BS up.. Especially ones who disagree with people who obviously know a ton more than them like nitsuj17....
I can tell you right here and now that there is no way that Humble has significantly better battery life the GC or vice versa..
I am not here to rip on Humble its fine rom (Its built on the GummyCharges base) and if people like it better than GC than that is fine. But people who spread BS piss me off.
I have been making ROM's for the better part of a year now across multiple Phone(three) and will tell you that any ROM especially ones built from the OTA (such as these) will never see an increase of more or less than 5 ~ 10% better battery life with any tweak you can apply. The increase they do get is from removing bloat and install custom Kernels..
If both ROM's were set side by side with the same kernel they would more or lass last the same amount time under the same utilization.
Making a change to the heap size in the build.prop will not change battery life, anyone who tells you that is full of $hit or obviously clueless..
Sorry gotta call FUD when I see FUD
To the OP I suggest yo try out all the ROM's and make the decision based on your own opinion.. Most ROM's will be a vast improvement over stock.
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how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.

chiahead52 said:
well at any rate it is a truth..I have tried gummy on 2 totally separate occasions and battery life on Humble(which I have also tried switched back and forth from) is a decent amount better..I dont know why but it is......I always flash the same exact kernel which is Imnuts non OC one
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chiahead52 said:
how is my personal experience making BS up? Like I stated I dont know why the battery life is better. I am not a dev or even super experienced in smart phones. but the fact is with the same Kernel and the exact same apps running that are restored from TB on all ROMs the battery life is different. I appreciate everything that everyone does here to improve and make these devices better than they originally came out. The things you guys do and the knowledge you have is crazy. Way more than I can ever understand personally.
Maybe it was an error on my part when I installed the other various ROM's. I dunno...but my own personal experience is not BS. Its upsetting to have someone claim that my honest experiences with my device are BS. I receive no benefit to claiming either is better or whatever. If you see post #3 I pretty much said what you said. try them out and form your own opinion.
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Because like it or not your opinion is based on perception and perception is easily fooled when it comes to battery life on these phones. I have seen it again and again. People believe that one ROM has better battery life than another bla bla bla.. Most if not all those people have no numbers to back up their assumption.. To top that off I am sure you did not recondition your battery stats before using each ROM.
And on top of all that its almost impossible to create an environment where you actually test each phone equally.
So what we have to go by is what is actually changed.. And I can tell you here and now... Its almost nothing, nothing under the hood is that much different at least in the modules and drivers and radio and kernel. And as someone who is a dev I can tell you that nothing about either ROM can make that much difference in battery life.

I have gotten good results and battery life from humble. First time i used gc it didnt do well on my phone. Not sure why. Second time around it was much better.
I also used altered beast v4 and it was just awful on my phone. Exchanged my phone for a new one and installed the same v4 as before and it was like a totally different rom.
I have had similar experiences with blackberries as well and if i remember correctly people always said roms act differently with other same model phones
I always set my phone up the same way and with the same apps and widgets.

So many choices! Which ROM are YOU using and why?

I'm torn between all these choices. Please tell me what you're using and why.
Make sure to mention battery life, performance, and useful features please.
Also, how does the rom mount the sd internal and external sd? Stock - as in there's a folder called _ExternalSD, or like how CM7 does it, using External as primary and having the emmc folder as secondary?

Trigger 2x...because I can make my clock blue to match my Steel Blue CM7 theme, lol. No, seriously...that's why.

Plain CM7 rom. The ability to have a relatively stock look, hide the clock and change the battery indicator to a percentage rather than just an icon.
I used to use Bionix2, but it still suffered instability issues (random reboots) etc.
Only complaint between both roms is that the pictures in my contact screen have a small little white bar underneath with thre little suqare dots which kind of irritates me.
I dislike the market that comes with CM7, but it seems that's the new stock look. (Which blows.)
I prioritize customization and battery life, and this rom gives me both.

CM7 -- Most stable and stock looking. I also like the fact that everything is customizable and nothing looks "cheap". Also battery life is important to me. If a rom drains my battery it's pretty much nixed.

I use CM7 because it just works great.
However I've been liking MIUI. I have Nandroids of both that I flip back and forth, and update where possible. So I have 2 current builds of Miui and CM7 that I run.
MIUI isn't quite where it needs to be for a final daily driver but with that I had, I made it work. The downfall was APN Cell data was hit or miss requiring resets, it would get blazing hot, the battery drain was horrible. I did 3 full charges through the day just to get by (morning wake up, around 2pm, around 7pm, then bed). I was hammering it though but shouldn't drain that bad. I did install a MIUI Digital Clock Widget which I'm thinking is causing the extra battery drain. Next time I boot into it I'll remove it and see where it gets me.
MIUI is ascetically pleasing to the eye. It is very pretty and fun to use. I love the dialer and the big icons and the Settings menu colors.
MIUI is based off CM7 so eventually it will be ironed out where it is just as stable but until then it is just my play OS.
I have just found out that I can replace Launcher Pro with Go Launcher or ADW EX finally because I found a LP Widget replacement called "Colorized Widgets". They work and feel just like the LP versions but work on GO and ADW.
So now I'm running CM7 with the Captivated theme, GO Launcher with a "Blue Theme" that has iPhone/MIUI icons and a glass look, and Colorized Widgets with the "Transparent" theme.
MIUI, I'm running Stock Launcher, Colorized Widgets, iTap Keyboard (iPhone themed Gingerbread keyboard).
Nice Setup.

So everyone using CM7 are you using RC1 or nightlies? Is there even a big difference? Would it be worth it to do the nightlies?

player911 said:
I use CM7 because it just works great.
However I've been liking MIUI. I have Nandroids of both that I flip back and forth, and update where possible. So I have 2 current builds of Miui and CM7 that I run.
MIUI isn't quite where it needs to be for a final daily driver but with that I had, I made it work. The downfall was APN Cell data was hit or miss requiring resets, it would get blazing hot, the battery drain was horrible. I did 3 full charges through the day just to get by (morning wake up, around 2pm, around 7pm, then bed). I was hammering it though but shouldn't drain that bad. I did install a MIUI Digital Clock Widget which I'm thinking is causing the extra battery drain. Next time I boot into it I'll remove it and see where it gets me.
MIUI is ascetically pleasing to the eye. It is very pretty and fun to use. I love the dialer and the big icons and the Settings menu colors.
MIUI is based off CM7 so eventually it will be ironed out where it is just as stable but until then it is just my play OS.
I have just found out that I can replace Launcher Pro with Go Launcher or ADW EX finally because I found a LP Widget replacement called "Colorized Widgets". They work and feel just like the LP versions but work on GO and ADW.
So now I'm running CM7 with the Captivated theme, GO Launcher with a "Blue Theme" that has iPhone/MIUI icons and a glass look, and Colorized Widgets with the "Transparent" theme.
MIUI, I'm running Stock Launcher, Colorized Widgets, iTap Keyboard (iPhone themed Gingerbread keyboard).
Nice Setup.
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Damn, you should setup my g2x! Lol I'm using miui, stock with faux kernel and xboarders rom ...I also switch between all three...miui is my favorite to play with, stock is the best for GPS, xboarders has bits of cm7 and stock...so basically im loving my g2x, even with all its bugs!
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player911 said:
... MIUI is based off CM7 so ...
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Really?
You sure about that?
I always thought that MIUI was custom done by some Chinese developers?

Flashing each stock CM7 nightly has been incredibly stable for me and the battery usage for the past couple of weeks has been amazing. Then again, I'm not overly hard on my phone by using the screen a lot like some folks do, I'm more prone to using my Transformer for gaming and general web browsing than I am my phone. I've never had any major bugs on CM7, but most of the general bugs that people complain about being on the phone are also completely foreign to me. I've also never used a fully stock G2x rom, my phone was shipped to me by another XDA user with a custom rom based on the GB release that I replaced with CM7 within a day or two, so my experience with with stock issues is absolutely non-existent.
I use CM7 because it was far less buggy than every other rom I tried in the dev section, and I used an iPhone against my will for almost a month, so MIUI is hideous to me by now aside from the bugs it still has. My first Android device was a first week release G1 and I still love stock Android. I've never been a fan of most of the UI overlays that vendors make (althogh the newer Sense is nice and some of the Touchwiz for 3.0 features are tempting) and I prefer to be allowed the choice of what I want my phone to look like. CM7 is the most stock rom I've seen that's also very stable. Also, I enjoy reading the CM changelogs. I'm trying to relearn how to code again and the diffs that the CM changelogs give are very enlightening and enjoyable to read.
I usually keep my phone underclocked a bit to 800Mhz max and screen off is underclocked quite a bit more. When I'm at home I leave data off and WiFi on (goes to sleep when the screen is off) and the battery can last for almost 3 days that way without hardly moving at all. When on data I get 8-20 hours or more depending on how much I'm traveling (switching towers drains battery) and how much I have the screen on. On full blast the shortest I've had the battery run was 4-6 hours of playing a game like Zenonia 3 without stopping. Using WiFi tethering the battery usually lasts 4-8 hours depending on how much I tax the phone's modem. Even underclocked the phone performs exceptionally well and I've never had any slowdowns during games or programs. I haven't had to reboot my phone, pull the battery, any random reboots or shutdowns, no APN issues, anything. Then again, I do reboot my phone every time a nightly is released which can be several days in a row or a lull for a few days at a time. I haven't had much luck running custom kernels but I haven't tried much other than faux's UV kernel so that's not much to go on. The stock CM7 kernel is just too stable for me for me to feel like changing it much.
I can only say that now that an official 2.3 release is out for this phone that roms will only get more interesting and hopefully more stable than they already are.. It already seems that there is a glut of developer interest in this device. Just one look in the development subforum shows the better part of a dozen choices in roms and much more activity than many places I've visited on XDA for a while.

I used CM7 if I had a second G2X to put other roms on.
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Cm7 nightlies ftw..... Mounts to emmc bit men don't bother me... stable rom and good battery life..

Eagle blood 2.3.5. The most stable and coolest one I've tried.
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OrganizedFellow said:
Really?
You sure about that?
I always thought that MIUI was custom done by some Chinese developers?
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Yes, it's 100% based off cm7 source. (If you don't believe me, go to their forums, and look. Right now they are caught up to about nightly 85 I believe.)

JaiaV said:
Flashing each stock CM7 nightly has been incredibly stable for me and the battery usage for the past couple of weeks has been amazing. Then again, I'm not overly hard on my phone by using the screen a lot like some folks do, I'm more prone to using my Transformer for gaming and general web browsing than I am my phone. I've never had any major bugs on CM7, but most of the general bugs that people complain about being on the phone are also completely foreign to me. I've also never used a fully stock G2x rom, my phone was shipped to me by another XDA user with a custom rom based on the GB release that I replaced with CM7 within a day or two, so my experience with with stock issues is absolutely non-existent.
I use CM7 because it was far less buggy than every other rom I tried in the dev section, and I used an iPhone against my will for almost a month, so MIUI is hideous to me by now aside from the bugs it still has. My first Android device was a first week release G1 and I still love stock Android. I've never been a fan of most of the UI overlays that vendors make (althogh the newer Sense is nice and some of the Touchwiz for 3.0 features are tempting) and I prefer to be allowed the choice of what I want my phone to look like. CM7 is the most stock rom I've seen that's also very stable. Also, I enjoy reading the CM changelogs. I'm trying to relearn how to code again and the diffs that the CM changelogs give are very enlightening and enjoyable to read.
I usually keep my phone underclocked a bit to 800Mhz max and screen off is underclocked quite a bit more. When I'm at home I leave data off and WiFi on (goes to sleep when the screen is off) and the battery can last for almost 3 days that way without hardly moving at all. When on data I get 8-20 hours or more depending on how much I'm traveling (switching towers drains battery) and how much I have the screen on. On full blast the shortest I've had the battery run was 4-6 hours of playing a game like Zenonia 3 without stopping. Using WiFi tethering the battery usually lasts 4-8 hours depending on how much I tax the phone's modem. Even underclocked the phone performs exceptionally well and I've never had any slowdowns during games or programs. I haven't had to reboot my phone, pull the battery, any random reboots or shutdowns, no APN issues, anything. Then again, I do reboot my phone every time a nightly is released which can be several days in a row or a lull for a few days at a time. I haven't had much luck running custom kernels but I haven't tried much other than faux's UV kernel so that's not much to go on. The stock CM7 kernel is just too stable for me for me to feel like changing it much.
I can only say that now that an official 2.3 release is out for this phone that roms will only get more interesting and hopefully more stable than they already are.. It already seems that there is a glut of developer interest in this device. Just one look in the development subforum shows the better part of a dozen choices in roms and much more activity than many places I've visited on XDA for a while.
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Wow, that was very detailed! Thanks. Quick question, what are some main advantages of the nightlies vs RC1?

EaglesBlood CM7 + Faux's OC/UV kernel + launcherpro
it's fast, it's stable, has the notification power widget, runs netflix.. nothing more i could ask for
except maybe the LG cam.. but either that or the notification widget.. i chose the widget
E: from the post above I underclocked it to 800mhz.. will see how much battery life i get so far no noticeable slowdown

Trigger 2x
It's been the most stable and feature full experience on my G2x. I've been using it since build 11, I just flashed build 14, and am loving it.

MIUI/cm7 practically the same, love all the features.

hmichaelkim said:
Wow, that was very detailed! Thanks. Quick question, what are some main advantages of the nightlies vs RC1?
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The nightlies are more up to date and actually more stable than the RC. I'm running 93 right now and it's been going smooth all night.

I'm still rockin froyo with Fauxs kernel on ultimate rom.
Those plus adw launcher equal silk. Lol
I would go with GB but im gonna wait a while till all this baseband and camera app get ported by the guru's. Still can't believe they dumbed down the functionality of the camera on an update lol
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Xboarders 2.3.3 tweaked because I like everything to work... cough.a2dp.cough
And the guy updates like a madman
Runs like hot knife thru butter and battery life is about 17 hrs

[Q] What is the best ROM so far?

I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!

IronMit said:
I follow the development thread every now and again. Recently so much stuff has sprung up i am confused. Reading it tells me so much and I don't want to install every single one to find out properly.
I currently have
[ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011)
which is pretty good.
But now there is Wanhus, CyanogenMod variations, XDA special?
Whats the difference, whats the most improved one? Help!
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The Wanhu and Special are similar but different. The Special is the way to go (but not yet b/c Hellmonger is working on the stuck at M problem). Wanhu with MZ patch works very well according to Libertymonger. CM6 is also very good-customizable, but it is still in development and may not be what you are looking for quite yet.
My suggestion is to go to front page of all three and see specs and what you want out of them. Most of us can't really stay on a ROM for more than a week anyways, so we are constantly flashing over and over to tweak this or mess with that.
Good Luck and always make back ups.

If I had to choose between any of the 2.2 ROMs it'd have to be WanHU stock, no patches. But I have to say my priorities have changed a lil after trying out each and every ROM. Stability issues have bothered me alot with most of the ROM's and I found coming from the 2.1 signapore SBF with Wanhu over it was the most stable. Not to mention the stock look, improved battery life and overall functionality. But people's tastes might be different. The special is based on WanHU with alot of customizations, from the theme to the inner workings of the ROM, and it is still in developement so there are some boot problems. Also people don't like the korean number format which is fixed in the special. CM6 is pretty cool too, loads of customizations right from the settings but its not without its problems, eg the stock google camera app doesnt take pictures at full resolution and there are also other tiny bugs here and there. I'd say try the special, or wanhu and watch the CM6 development.

I actually don't know when I will be content with the version of ROM on my phone. Theres always new ROMS released for any phones, and I always have an urge to update it to the latest. I think its becoming an obsession almost.
as a guideline, I wouldn't recommend any 2.3 roms from experience. I don't think our phones have the overall capacity and stability for 2.3.
And its also true about the battery life. 2.2 seems to drain battery on my phone faster.

Khalpowers WanHU
I would have to say for now, until Hellmonger releases his Special Hellmonger edition, Khalpower's WhanHU steelblue is the best, Very Very stable, ram is very stable between 50-85 constant, and when you kill apps it holds steady instead of just dropping again. Only downfall with it is 20% battery increments(being worked on) and phone number format( also may be fixed). If we didn't have Hellmongers Special after it is made stable, Khal's would be my choice for now. It is fully functional with fm radio and tv out and whatever else. I think Hellmonger's mod's to it is more to do with the whole phone like camera and recording and things too maybe. I know CM6 is super super fast but khal's is fast enough for me plus can handle the games and things. I will take fast and functionality over superfast with half functionality. My 2 cents! stick it in yo pocket or cash it in! lol

The CM6 rom is a potential rom to be the best... However there are several issues to fix like the camera/camcorder application(8mp/hd recording), FM etc....
As of now, I'm using the original Wanhu stock rom with the latest update from Mioze, Dark Froyo Theme and ADW-Ex launcher... overclock at 1200 MHz, 75 vsel, this rom rocks..... very fast and snappy.

After been useing cm6 its the best.
No memory leaks.
Its very compatiable with ardoidiani openrecovery.
You have reboot the phone everyday.
It blazing fast.
No radio support who cares its a crapy radio any way.
I have test them all and CM6 is by far the best.
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Cm6 is very competent in my opinion. Was on miui before this and I must say cm6 has beaten our miui rom in stability and speed. With stability I mean the general absense of force closes and reboots.
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I'm looking for the exact same answer and I thinking I leaning towards the stock roms.
Because most of those I have tried proved to be unstable at some point. One made my camera lose some features, the other made the fm radio stop working altogether.
And finally the last I've tried couldn't run Skype well, it would crash misteriously. Now I'm back to the stock rom, only this time is rooted and a newer version. So far so good, happy to have a stable phone again. I get enough headaches and crashes from my laptop and pc.

CM6.
My reason its the best.
1. Have not had reboot fot five days.
2.you can under clock it to 650 and fast as hell.
3. Memory avg aound 70 but it can go high 110 i have had this high.
4. When under clock much better battery life.
5. The most staible rom i have used on xt720.
Many more reason picking this rom.
You need to use ardoidiani openrecovery with cm6.
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That's weird.. I don't overclock cm6 and it runs smooth at default 720 mhz. I then overclock it to 1 ghz, and back to 720 mhz, and its sluggish. I cannot imagine running it lower than 720. Not to mention by average free memory has gone down since i installed it a week ago. Average was 70-80, now its like: 20-30. I use autokiller memory optomizer and advanced task killer, but it still stays at 20-30 free mbs.
On the brighter side, battery seems to be extended a couple of hours for me on this rom. I can get 2+hours of phone call, texting all day, and some web surfing and game playing in for about 14 hours and have 20% battery left. It has yet to crash and restart, and I love the themes. It is really fast for me at 1 ghz. This is all updated over top the Cincinnati Bell froyo 2.2 "update".

I dont use minifree or any taskmanagers their a wast of memory.
I manage program memory through ardroidiani openrecovery.
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I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.

so its between wanhu and CM6.. interesting, no-one has the miui rom as their top choice....i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features? saves space and reduces amount of widgets needed. Also anyone know if MIUI has a push messaging problem?

IronMit said:
i really like the sync, brigtness, data, gps switching on the fly on the notification bar.
Do wanhu or cm6 have this features?
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CM6 has this. You can select/choose from up to 6 buttons in CM settings.

firzen_net said:
I also agree that CM6 is the best. I only have reboots every few days. FM radio and Camera as well are things I can live without.
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jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me

I had [ROM]MiuiXt_Final_V2 optimize english pack (update 29/6/2011) (my favorite)
Yestarday I installed Wanhus but I had problems with my signal, APN, etc. It is so fast, but I prefer SteelEpicBlue V4.
Today I'm gonna try with CM6.

IronMit said:
jus when i thought cm6 was going to be perfect for me...cm6 has a camera limitation?
what is it?
Miui's camera seems faster and less memory hungry that moto stock so thats a big plus for me
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Some things about camera on CM6: the menu that pops up for setting preferences (the top most of the six icons) actually scrolls, but it's impossible to have known that because it doesn't look like that at all. Also, milaq's CM 6.3.0 has updates to the camera--6.3.0 for XT720 should be out today or tomorrow depending on how testing goes this evening (it's built and sitting on my disk ). Mostly the CM camera doesn't offer to crop images to widescreen format by chopping off the top and bottom--so people expecting 8MP to be widescreen maybe get confused (I haven't tested this yet because of the camera updates that are in 6.3.0).
The other somewhat hassle with CM6 at the moment is that video playback isn't on par with WanHu/XDAspecial yet. Software decoding works as a workaround to playback some files, but WanHu/XDAspecial seems to be the media king. I also don't think HDMI output works yet on CM6, but it supposedly works well on WanHu/XDAspecial.

I agree with mchlbenner on the pluses of CM6 having tested Dexter 1.3, MIUI V2-V4, WanHu and the Cincinati Bell Froyo.I personally find that CM6 has the least Forced close and reboots and better power consumption of the ROMS I have tried.
IMHO, I reckon we cannot expect these modded ROMS to be 100% perfect since it is the work of the community as there will always be some small lingering issues - just try all the ROMS and then decide which ones suit your needs the best or closest.

haha jus as i was about to flash cm6 ..the final xda special hellmonger has been released...spoilt for choice again!
I have a feeling i might spend the whole day just flashing roms

CM7,RCMix 3.5,TripnMiui,InsertCoin, ArHD

So out of those 5 which do you guys recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
Also, of the sense roms which are protected from htc's security logging and if they aren't how would i go about fixing the problem without removing sense completely
And any aosp roms besides cm7 that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
And any other miui roms besides Trips that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
Also what is the best kernel: battery wise, performance wise
(THIS IS NOT A QUESTION BUT AN OPEN THREAD FOR FINDING INFORMATION BASED ON PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES)

I have tried most of the roms but keep going back to cm7.
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Yeah...I really thought I was going to love being back on MIUI with TripN but damn. CM7 is just too good. I tried using MIUI 3 times now and just had to go back to CM7 each time.

Tried all of them. I can honestly say cm7 is far superior in every category you mentioned.

Melvins Beast rom w/No Sense!!

CM7 of course

for what you listed, CM7 is what you're looking for

InserCoin, if u like Sense, otherwise CM7
Your decision.

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So out of those 5 which do you guys recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
Also, of the sense roms which are protected from htc's security logging and if they aren't how would i go about fixing the problem without removing sense completely
Leedroid doesn't have the logging, neither does InsertCoin. I checked.
And any aosp roms besides cm7 that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
No
And any other miui roms besides Trips that you recommend: battery wise, speed wise, simplicity, and usefulness
You can find out yourself at modaco
Also what is the best kernel: battery wise, performance wise
Why don't u try some and get back to us. Contribute a little bit? LEEDROiDs kernel is great. Faux kernel always having issues. CM7 kernel is good. Stock is good
(THIS IS NOT A QUESTION BUT AN OPEN THREAD FOR FINDING INFORMATION BASED ON PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES)
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Lol the more I read this the more it bothers me.
Of the four requirements you listed two of them are subjective (simplicity, usefulness). If you're gonna call this an open discussion, frame the questions so we can compare facts against facts, rather than opinions.
Like what do u mean by usefulness? CM7 is useless to me since I hate the keyboard and camera. But based on the criteria u set, it's very fast with decent battery. Simplicity? Di u mean which Rom has the least settings so u can't make any changes to optimize the phone to suit your needs?
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Cm7 + faux kernel. As simple or complex as you like to make it, great battery life, no sense logging, and every interaction responds notably fatter than sense. Camera lacks a little its true but its good enough for now until they finish fixing it.
Remember also its an alpha release so not quite finished yet but its still very stable for daily use.s
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Tried ARHD, Insertcoin and CM7 v7.
First of all, I use Go Launcher EX (over Sense and ADW).
The fastest was ARHD 3.1.1 with built-in kernel. CF-bench scored higher than SGS2 and all 3d games worked perfectly, but battery life was weak. 100% to zero in 1,5 hour when using with screen on (stock battery).
Then I tried CM7 v7. Go Launcher worked perfect, like on other mentioned roms. But, CF-bench score was really low, much lower than Sensation should have according to CF-bench graphs. You probably say, that I shouldn't care about benchmarks. Yes, it's true, but... CM7 was also weak in games! I tested Let's Golf 2 on all these roms, and on CM7 it was almost unplayable. FPS was good, but there were many lags and I couldn't properly hit the ball. And there is no Sense camera and dialer and weak FB integration. So far - CM7 not for me.
Now I use InsertCoin 2.5.5-2 + bricked kernel and it's perfect. Battery life is very good, all games works perfect, no lags in Let's Golf 2, 3d issue games (f.e. Cordy, Roboto), also work great with no issues. Everything is very smooth and I'm not going to change it for a long time (maybe for ICS if it will be on Sensations).

Point blank coredroid or rcmix3.5 both are different than all these roms good battery and everything to me if you want cm7 just go buy a nexus s the new one all stock android and faster than cm7

all of them...
Tried ARHD and for a sense rom it was nearly flawless except for the battery life (i'd carry a second battery to get thru a day). Then I tried InsertCoin and it was everything i wanted it to be. Super speedy, rock solid and had all of the extras i would usually add in anyway like the advanced power menu and quick settings. But alas it was a sense rom and I wanted to unleash the horsepower my HTC Sensation is packing, so I tried the CM7 <i>ALPHA</i> and i knew i was home. There isn't even a nightly build out yet for my phone and i cannot see any reason i would ever switch to another! even in alpha it is fast, stable, powerful, theme-able, and my daily driver! I say try a few before you choose because if you dont likke it... just flash another. Happy Flashing.
Thanks to kmobs for the selfKANGs!!

CM7 + Tiamat + GO Launcher EX
Came from the Nexus One, which I lost . I was running CM7, with Tiamat kernel, and GO launcher EX. I tried several Sense ROMs and several nonsense ROMs. Ending up going back to my Nexus setup. Plenty fast, all the features I want, battery life so far has been excellent. I don't like Sense.

nrvnqsrxk,
I understand that simplicity and usefulness are conflicting and confusing for some people so let me clarify it a bit more,
by simplicity I meant: user friendly-ness
by usefulness I meant: handy, basically on the opposite spectrum of simplicity
Each ROM could be clarified as either simple or more useful
For example, CM7 is useful but Sense is simpler, respectively of course
Does that help?
Also, since you accused me of not contributing, although I spent the time writing the thread and splitting it into categories, I will say this about the kernels, the faux kernel in my opinion is not very good on battery life but the bricked kernel is, in my opinion, stupendously fast when scrolling through the Sense homescreens and also good on battery life. With these opinions Sensation owners can then make their decision based on people's experience, therefore I do not need to frame the question you can if you would like and that is why it is called an open discussion.

dr.m0x how about battery life compared to android revolution HD 3.6.7 ?, the CM7 doesn't have sense i believe!!
lagging ? i never experienced lagging from neither stock neither the ARH
usefulness ? are you serious ? its an android, you can change it looks add launchers, customize it looks and all your daily apps will work on what so ever rom
it is YOU who make it useful

Insert Coin no other choice. Been with it since the start

maff's SENSE STOCK OPTIMIZED ROM is BETTER than ARHD in Battery LIFE and SNAPPY AS HELL. ALMOST LIKE CM7 no DELAY. Makes my friends Razor look like made in china i swear (the software atleast)

CM7 is the best rom in terms of my preferences.
CM9 (ICS) is just around the corner too.

Rc3d
No doubt about it specially since the new version 1.0
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[Q] Dlev Stability

I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now

Dlev is the best
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jmatt78 said:
Dlev is the best
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... Can you expand on that at all? The OP had three specific questions and you didn't answer any. You just stated your opinion and who knows if you've even tried Serendipity to compare the two.

I really liked S7 but it just decided one day that it was not gonna work. Everything started force closing. So I moved to CM7 but it was good. As for Dlev I didn't like the looks of it. So I was on it like maybe 1 hour or so didn't have issue with in that hour.
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I've been on both and I like things about both.
S7 - Good battery life, great stability, great performance..
--It is outdated, sometimes has the battery drain bug.
Dlev - Excellent battery life, like the theme, great stability, is sometimes "choppy", is newer version the S7.
--The developer is active and fixing problems.
If S7 was 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 JVT/JVT it would definitely be my choice of ROM.
I would go for DLEV since it's 2.3.4 and doesn't have the battery drain bug, and has a lot of great features.

MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.

Only problem for me is usb connectivity. Tried it without debugging on and all I got was a kies screen with no recognition from my pc (win7). With debugging on it just goes to a charge. I'm gonna play around with it some more, but everything else is super clean and smooth.

Mohammad_Adib said:
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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I don't want MIUI on account of the bluetooth issue, and I play games so there is that too. But thank you for the suggestion.
Anyone else on S7 vs. Dlev?

Mohammad_Adib said:
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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This guy ^^ really loves his MIUI lol but yes I've had both...Dlev, didn't like the theme of it and for some reason was choppy every other boot or so, and had data issues, got tired of it and flashed S7 and haven't changed since. Great battery, stability, speed, only negative is its still 2.3.3, not really a big deal for me.

EricNagel said:
I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
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I came from S7 to Dlev about a week ago. I had HUGE battery drain problems with S7 that weren't being fixed with a reboot, or uninstalling apps. I've been extremely happy with Dlev, paired with the Daily Driver kernel the battery life is very good, and the kernel makes charging faster. I have had no stability problems with the new update, I had some problems with the first one and the Touch Wiz launcher (fixed with a re-install). The new version has Go Launcher EX installed, which is an excellent theme-able launcher with lots of eye candy tweaks. Smoothness even at stock speed with all animations is good, would be even better if overclocked.

Dlev is the best for me, which has been running great all the time. I have not tried CM7, but since Dlev is actually based off of the captivate (very like the Infuse if you did not know), which seems like it would work better with the Fuse. Ha Mohammad_Adib knows I like it so much this from Android Forums ha. I would probably be running Infused though, because I just like the feel of running a rom that is actually meant for the Infuse, but with no updates for now I just have nothing to look forward to on that rom, where Dlev may just be my fav now.