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Hey guys I just upgraded to the extended battery and was wondering the best way to properly break in and how long to charge for the first time, any help would be appreciated thanks
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The best way I've seen, in my experience, to "train" a battery is to use it until it dies and then leave it charging overnight.
Yeah I would just let the battery do a couple charge and discharges
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The best way I've seen, in my experience, to "train" a battery is to use it until it dies and then leave it charging overnight.
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No need to do that with lithium batteries, they have no memory. This practice is from the old days of nickel cadmium batteries.
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No need to do that with lithium batteries, they have no memory. This practice is from the old days of nickel cadmium batteries.
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That may be true of the battery but is not for the phone.
Li battery's don't have a liner discharge and each battery has a different personalty lot to lot.
The phone learns the curve of the battery through discharge, so letting it discharge completely once or twice helps the phone more accurately display how much battery is left.
Oh okay guys, thanks fyi this battery is a huge improvement, I def recommend it, I actually used my phone quite a bit and from all day use only used 27 percent of battery and had data on, normally with barely any use id lose around 60 percent if not more with data off.. def like my thunderbolt again
edit: I'm on 3g only so I don't know how battery life would improve on 4g..
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just to warn you.. i dont know what rom you are using, but keep an eye on the battery gauge while you are actually using the phone and make sure it's not 'sticking'.. i was running froyo bamfs on my extended and my percentage wouldn't properly update and i would have to restart it to update it or it would jsut randomly show up after a while... anywho i ended up going to GB and back to the stock battery, i hate how f***ing big that stupid thing is... its like holding a house phone.
You should probably clear battery stats and run a battery calibration app so it doesn't stick
Drive it like ya stole it!
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Yeah I always calibrate with every new rom install, but went ahead and did it on the new battery once I was at 100, the battery isn't so bad once you get used to it, the case can have a big difference on the feel of extended battery.
Mostly I love the fact I can use the phone to the fullest and not have to sacrifice anything and still have 70 percent at the end of the night
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Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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foxxx5oh said:
Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Your battery is bad. Same thing happened to me, I recommend just buying a new OEM battery from a reputable dealer on Amazon, that's what I did. Try setting it down on a table and push on one side and if it rocks back and forth its bad. Or you can just look at it and see its swollen
Mine did that and it was just a bad battery. If you take the battery out and place it on a flat surface you may notice that it rocks left and right. If it rocks a lot or if you feel the middle and it feels swollen it may be symptoms of a bad battery.
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Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
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Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
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It is dangerous because battery acid can get on you and cause sever skin irritation. You can continue like this for 1 to 2 days MAX until you get your new battery. Try not to use it because using it more will cause it to swell more, DUH try to only use it for emergencies and then once you get the new battery clean the terminals and you'll be good to go
I used mine got a while like that because i didn't know it was the battery lol
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Thank you all, I wasn't sure what it was cause I can still pull over a day of battery life when it wants to lol. Looks like I'm on the hunt for a new one
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
I'm still using my old vibrant battery (at times). I don't think that it's as strong as the spare that I purchased a few months ago, but, is on par with the 18 month old battery that came with the phone. I zap them all the way down a lot of the time (then swap to a fully charged one). I do(try) to recharge to full before use though.
Mine does it but only when I'm using wifi or data could that still be a bad battery
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
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I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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Hechoen.......I use mine till under 10% or so and then full charge it. Been doing that over a year now. My wife however plugs hers in off and on throughout the day without letting it full charge all at once and she has a bad battery....
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Shallow discharge cycles are generally accepted to be better for Li-ion batteries than deep ones.
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I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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That is probably a bad idea. I would try to plug it in around 15-20% with 20% being the best time. According to the batteryuniversity website 20-80% is ideal for li-ion batteries because it keeps the heat down. Charging from less than 15% creates heat because that is a low level and takes a bit longer to charge from therefore exposes the battery to more heat. A good charger and battery will shut off the charger once it hits 100% and only allow for a trickle charge if the battery drops below 100%. But I have seen my phone get hotter from about 85% to 100% if Im using it ie: plugged in and streaming music or using navigation.
IDK but i am facing random power off...when i turns it back on it again powers off after the bootanimation...
Chinmay said that it must be a kernel prob and i sholid change the frequency to 1000 ...i changed it and my phone remained on for half an hour and then powered off eralier it used to power off itself within 15 min...
Can someone suggest me that is it the kernel prob or battery prob...
If kernel prob tye suggest me a good gb based kernel...
Thanks You
Btw i am on xda bam rc15
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/\can it go into recovery?I had the same problem and it worsened over a few days and my phone finally stopped switching on completely.had to replace motherboard.
"...The child is grown, the dream is gone..." - Pink Floyd.
No no its not that worse..
My phone is working fune just it powers off sometime..hetalk told me that i have to replace the battery!!
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simratcs said:
No no its not that worse..
My phone is working fune just it powers off sometime..hetalk told me that i have to replace the battery!!
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I mentioned this earlier somewhere.remove your battery and try to rotate it.if it does the battery's swollen and probably gone.
"...The child is grown, the dream is gone..." - Pink Floyd.
loneagl said:
I mentioned this earlier somewhere.remove your battery and try to rotate it.if it does the battery's swollen and probably gone.
"...The child is grown, the dream is gone..." - Pink Floyd.
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My doubt
How much could be the life of a batttey?
probably a year atleat.
How do I know that my battery is weak.
I dont understand you
you mean battery will buldge
wrishaba said:
My doubt
How much could be the life of a batttey?
probably a year atleat.
How do I know that my battery is weak.
I dont understand you
you mean battery will buldge
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When u over charge your phone, the battery seems to bulge.. Its when u keep it for charging whole night or somthing like that.. When u do that repeatedly, battery bulges.. N thus it become weak.. Low back up n all that..
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If it still persists try using the kernal made by adi_pat. I have been using it for a month and still no problem. Also good battery life!!
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My old LG battery bulged up like a balloon after 2.5 years and it just died every time i try to use, e.g. connecting wifi or making calls. Or even at random times. And yes, if you can spin it on a flat surface it's probably gone. Mine was at the extent of pushing against the battery cover..
I read somewhere that overcharging the current new type of Li-ion battery is unlikely (some regulating mechanism in the phone that will stop charging even at plugged in) and spoilage is probably due to too many cycles used or simply meaning aging; or manufacturing fault.
i think my battery is completely gone..cant handle my phone for more than 15 min..Around 20 % drain in 10 mains of continous use...this is all because of my foolishness...as this was my first phone i didnt knew about this battrey thing...when the battery used to get at 99% used to charge it again to 100% ...i did this for 1 month or so....at last i ****ed my battrey very deep....
thank u guys for ur consideration and awesome comments....i have ordered a battrey from flipkart !!
Even my battery spins quite well on the floor. Maybe I need a new battery too...
Hey , yesterday i left my phone plugged in overnight. After it has completed charging , the battery icon stops showing any signs of charge and lockscreen shows battery 100%. Anyways , from this i may conclude that the battery stops taking power after charging full . So all i want to ask is dose our htc gets overcharged / battery gets damaged due to stay plugged in overnight?
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Hey , yesterday i left my phone plugged in overnight. After it has completed charging , the battery icon stops showing any signs of charge and lockscreen shows battery 100%. Anyways , from this i may conclude that the battery stops taking power after charging full . So all i want to ask is dose our htc gets overcharged / battery gets damaged due to stay plugged in overnight?
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Most probably yes, it damages the battery may be, i have explorer from about 10 months and my use is Hardcore! and i really mean that so many times ive put my phone on charge on night and it gets overcharged, everything was fine from 9 months but now ive started to have problems with battery like, phone normaly charges to 65% in less than an hour then takes 3-4hours to reach 100. So its better if u charrge it when its needed.
Hope this helps.
Ya, but I've noticed that after teaching 100% the phone stops charging by itself., somewhere i read that if devices battery has been charged , the charger itself stops producing more power. That means device or the charger dose not allows overcharging of the battery than how are you experiencing problems when your device has never been overcharged ? I have a busy schedule and only have time to charge my explorer at Night . It would be a big problem for me if you say phone gets overcharged and battery gets damaged.
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Ya, but I've noticed that after teaching 100% the phone stops charging by itself., somewhere i read that if devices battery has been charged , the charger itself stops producing more power. That means device or the charger dose not allows overcharging of the battery than how are you experiencing problems when your device has never been overcharged ? I have a busy schedule and only have time to charge my explorer at Night . It would be a big problem for me if you say phone gets overcharged and battery gets damaged.
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I dont think so that charger stop charging itself, but if u want to u can left the phone for charge in the night, but dont make it a routine atleast.
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Wow .this is insane ! 107 people has opened this thread but only 1 has replied . Come on ! I need ur advise.
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Acc. To me if u charge ua fone over night it won't make any problem cz fone automatically disconnects. With ma past experience I saw mani fones like I have used Corby, cyber shot, w200 evry day I did same thing but those fone never give problem. Till now those giving battery working. And some guy said that from 0 to 65% comes in hour like then its takin time mine also doin same thing. Every mani of ma Samsung fones also same thing. So its manufactureed like dat.
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Acc. To me if u charge ua fone over night it won't make any problem cz fone automatically disconnects. With ma past experience I saw mani fones like I have used Corby, cyber shot, w200 evry day I did same thing but those fone never give problem. Till now those giving battery working. And some guy said that from 0 to 65% comes in hour like then its takin time mine also doin same thing. Every mani of ma Samsung fones also same thing. So its manufactureed like dat.
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How much time ur phone take to charge fully? (Explorer)
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hsn97 said:
How much time ur phone take to charge fully? (Explorer)
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If I charge continuely it ll be for 3.5 hours. If not 4 hrs.
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my explorer get charge in almost 3hrbut it nevr gave bacup of more than a day on genral use right from the begning :crying::crying::crying::crying:
Battery doesn't get over charged, but it does keep charging the battery as fast and its being used, so yeah, in the long run its not a good idea to leave it on all night.
And btw, i still leave my dumbphone connected to charger all night, and its goin on its 3rd year and battery still going strong, but then again, those phones barely has any use of battery as compared to a smartphone.
Anyway, you shouldn't do it, it won't hurt overnight, but in the long run you will notice issues.
Charging for long hours will hurt your battery because it's only a 1300mAh 4142mV thing. But, even I have to keep my phone on charge whole night due to lack of time. If someday you find battery getting heated up, start taking care of it asap.
Remember, battery is the heart of your phone.
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Having the same problem as hsn97
yeah.. try not to leave it for charge for over an hour after its fully charged.. It can lead to serious problems.. Mine takes about 3 hours for a full charge and lasts a little over 1 and half days..
Well, yes. If you will notice, the phone charges in 3 ways:
1. From 0 to 90% it will charge in rapid speed.
2. 90% to 100% the incoming current will reduce significantly.
3. When it reaches 100%, the current falls really low, so that overcharge does not take place.
But if the charger is left overnight, the low charge can cause lot of problems. Overcharging reduces the battery life and performance.
I have been using explore for almost a year now and my battery has not decreased much.
I keep it everyday overnight for charge
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I have been using explore for almost a year now and my battery has not decreased much.
I keep it everyday overnight for charge
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Overnight charge is okay but if the phone reaches full battery and you still continue to charge it will reduce battery life
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Hi I have CM10 beta 3 and nose for some time because I ba battery in 6 hours or so by more than the minimum cpu September put in sleep mode there forma.Alguien not know how I can fix or is the beta 3? I calibration but there did not form, use official charger htc.un greeting.
Hi XDA
I was leaving my phone charging last night as usual, but when I wake up this morning, my phone is extremely hot, maybe at least 60 degree celsius(140F) for I literaly can't touch it, it burns. The phone is powered off and when I turned it back on (thank God it did turn on) after cooling down, it's only like half charged. And the battery itself appears to be normal as usual. This never happened before and my battery temp never goes above 40 degree.
The first thing I can think of it's a failing battery, but can any other things cause it too? What should I do? Will it be safe to charge it again?
BTW, I'm using the Sumsang Galaxy R I9103 and the stock battery, with CM 10.1 nightly builds.
Bump? I tried to carefully charge it a few times and it seems just fine, any ideas? I've already ordered a backup battery online just in case
you shouldn't put your phone to charge for the whole night... an average phone gets charged in almost 4 to 5 hours... hence you may risk damaging your battery.... other thing could be that your battery is already gone worse as you suggested.... it is good that you ordered a new battery. just don't keep it on charging the whole night...
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I leave my phone plugged in overnight to charge as well and I've never had such a problem. Seeing as your phone was turned off during the charging, my best guess is that your battery is failing or your charger is failing. If you have an extra charger, you could try that, if now I would just hop online and buy a new set.
Good luck!
RazaVakil7995 said:
you shouldn't put your phone to charge for the whole night... an average phone gets charged in almost 4 to 5 hours... hence you may risk damaging your battery.... other thing could be that your battery is already gone worse as you suggested.... it is good that you ordered a new battery. just don't keep it on charging the whole night...
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Well you just disappointed over 50 million people
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bbrad said:
Well you just disappointed over 50 million people
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I used to do that and it screwed up my phone. Like they say, thruth's bitter
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RazaVakil7995 said:
I used to do that and it screwed up my phone. Like they say, thruth's bitter
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Battery's is made to be charged 24/7 I've left my fascinate on charge all night every night for 4 years. It doesn't affect it and to pronounce it right truths bitter its safe to leave your phone charging
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