Hey guys I just upgraded to the extended battery and was wondering the best way to properly break in and how long to charge for the first time, any help would be appreciated thanks
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The best way I've seen, in my experience, to "train" a battery is to use it until it dies and then leave it charging overnight.
Yeah I would just let the battery do a couple charge and discharges
z06mike said:
The best way I've seen, in my experience, to "train" a battery is to use it until it dies and then leave it charging overnight.
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No need to do that with lithium batteries, they have no memory. This practice is from the old days of nickel cadmium batteries.
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No need to do that with lithium batteries, they have no memory. This practice is from the old days of nickel cadmium batteries.
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That may be true of the battery but is not for the phone.
Li battery's don't have a liner discharge and each battery has a different personalty lot to lot.
The phone learns the curve of the battery through discharge, so letting it discharge completely once or twice helps the phone more accurately display how much battery is left.
Oh okay guys, thanks fyi this battery is a huge improvement, I def recommend it, I actually used my phone quite a bit and from all day use only used 27 percent of battery and had data on, normally with barely any use id lose around 60 percent if not more with data off.. def like my thunderbolt again
edit: I'm on 3g only so I don't know how battery life would improve on 4g..
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just to warn you.. i dont know what rom you are using, but keep an eye on the battery gauge while you are actually using the phone and make sure it's not 'sticking'.. i was running froyo bamfs on my extended and my percentage wouldn't properly update and i would have to restart it to update it or it would jsut randomly show up after a while... anywho i ended up going to GB and back to the stock battery, i hate how f***ing big that stupid thing is... its like holding a house phone.
You should probably clear battery stats and run a battery calibration app so it doesn't stick
Drive it like ya stole it!
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Yeah I always calibrate with every new rom install, but went ahead and did it on the new battery once I was at 100, the battery isn't so bad once you get used to it, the case can have a big difference on the feel of extended battery.
Mostly I love the fact I can use the phone to the fullest and not have to sacrifice anything and still have 70 percent at the end of the night
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For users who purchased the extended battery (2200mah), how much bigger (physical size) is it then the 1500mah default battery?
2200 mAh is actually a fairly nice battery. My Droid X extended battery is only 1930 mAh but i get ~13-17 hours of battery life and the X has a huge LCD display. I could only imagine what the Fascinate would get with that big a battery and Super AMOLED haha.
The word according to a bunch of tests is the Droid X has the best battery life, about 3 hours than the SGS line on a single charge. On average with my Epic I'm getting about 12 hours without recharge, so a 2200 mAh battery should go roughly 18 hours. Again, mileage will vary from user to user. I do what I would consider is around heavy usage.
Just traded Droid X in for Fascinate and had the extended battery for the X. They gave me the extended battery as an even exchange for the SGS and I am seriously considering returning the thing. It is Ginormous and makes the phone look disgusting. The X's extended battery at least kept the phone looking good.
i'm very curious about the extended battery and the cover that comes with it. could you post a pic of the phone with them installed, plz?
The thing is huge.
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Huge battery with no case protection In sight.
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OMG, that is hideous.
Wow that's probably the ugliest thing I have ever seen. Is it really worth it?
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Well with a full charge at 6pm it now 440am and I am at 91% left with heavy web and texting.
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Hmmmm makes he think twice about it now... I can't go twelve hours on standby without the phone going completely dead. The battery life I'm getting is the worst ever. How can it die so fast when its not being used at all?
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Hmmmm makes he think twice about it now... I can't go twelve hours on standby without the phone going completely dead. The battery life I'm getting is the worst ever. How can it die so fast when its not being used at all?
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i get 12-14 hrs without dropping down to 1/2 battery with calls paired w/bluetooth headset ,web,texting,emails,twitter, and beautiful widgets all running !! this is one of the best batteries on a android phone ive had so far !! right up there with my droidx !!
I gotta say it a great battery but I must decide what is more important to me longer battery or a case with belt clip hmmmm.
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I'd rather carry an extra stock battery, then deal with that.
With the extended battery in.... It looks like the phone is pregnant, lol.
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It is obviously a good battery, but the thing looks hideous. it does look pregnant!
what are the chances someone makes a better looking one
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Hmmmm makes he think twice about it now... I can't go twelve hours on standby without the phone going completely dead. The battery life I'm getting is the worst ever. How can it die so fast when its not being used at all?
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Not sure what's up with yours, but mine gets fantastic battery life. Full charge at 8am and I go a day and a half with moderate-to-heavy call/text/game/web use. I'm extremely impressed with the battery life. My girlfriend hardly uses her's except for web browsing on lunch, and she almost squeezes 3 days out of it!
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When is the due date? is it a boy or a girl? thats a huge *****.
I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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When you get it, deplete it, but do not let it die. Ever. Then just cycle it normally.
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When you get it, deplete it, but do not let it die. Ever. Then just cycle it normally.
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What do you mean by "die".... like to 0%, if so what should we take it down to?
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What do you mean by "die".... like to 0%, if so what should we take it down to?
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Yes, by letting your battery "die", per se, you're letting it deplete to 0%. I'd say for safe measure, between 5%-9%. But if you're in the vicinity of a charger take it down to 2%. If not, turn it off at 5%, then plug it in before powering it back on. My devices' daily life lasts so long (on all devices I own) because I properly know how to cycle a battery.
If you let your battery die (0%), it'll lose more and more charge (on a 0.00% level) every time. When you get it tomorrow though, it should have ~50%-60% charge.
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I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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There's no need for that, only if it doesn't have any juice.
More info: batteryuniversity dot com
Battery life?
So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
You gotta give it a few charging cycles for the battery to reach it's full potential. Give its few days, you'll notice it will get better after you charged it a few times.
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The battery life on mine is chugging along pretty well. I gave it a full charge before hitting the streets. Its been 4 hours with wifi and GPS on with a couple dozen pictures taken and a bunch of apps dl and installed. used maps 5.0 and periodically hit the GPS for my position getting really good accuracy while driving and the battery level still has a little more than 4/5s battery life still remaining
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hah2110 said:
So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
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You haven't broken it in yet, use your brain.
The phones barely been out that long, it takes a while to have good statistics about battery life.
Myth on lion
rashad1 said:
You haven't broken it in yet, use your brain.
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I haven't even reached the full 100% charge yet, been using it then charging it some then using it then charging it some. Lol
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So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
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Myth on lion
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That's funny because every company that sells back up batteries tell you to go through 4-5 full cycles before it reaches its potential. I guess you're right, and they're all wrong.
They are wrong. Google it
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how do I train my battery it was halfway charged when i got it do I let it die and then put it on the charger thanks!
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I've always charged all the way up then ran the battery all the way down, then charged all the way up again. Then periodically, I will run the battery all the way down just to give it a little exercise. So far out of all the cell phones I have had I have had 1 battery go bad on me, that was 8-10years ago.
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how do I train my battery it was halfway charged when i got it do I let it die and then put it on the charger thanks!
matter of opinion really.... I would kill it by playing with it.... then do a full charge
that is what I am doing
Generally the suggested method is to charge it for 8-12 hours as soon as you can, then use it until it gets very low, then charge for another 8-12 hours. Do this cycle about 3 to 4 times and you've got yourself a healthy battery.
Killing the battery entirely, despite popular belief, can have some negative effects on its health. Especially during is conditioning phase.
I'm interested in getting a spare battery for this phone, but I'm wondering if for some reason this would be bad for the phone? Like is swapping batteries some how messing up the calibration? Say I used the phone and killed 1 battery and then used other one the rest of the day and I did this every day. Would this impact anything negatively?
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I'm interested in getting a spare battery for this phone, but I'm wondering if for some reason this would be bad for the phone? Like is swapping batteries some how messing up the calibration? Say I used the phone and killed 1 battery and then used other one the rest of the day and I did this every day. Would this impact anything negatively?
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Definitely would throw off the calibration, but with the extra kick of a fresh charge you shouldn't feel it
How long have you had your phone? The first could of days the battery life was horrible, but once everything settled, the battery life doubled.
That being said, i found a battery and charger on ebay for 8.95. It's one of the cheap ones, but it's hard to go wrong on a 9 dollar battery.
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How long have you had your phone? The first could of days the battery life was horrible, but once everything settled, the battery life doubled.
That being said, i found a battery and charger on ebay for 8.95. It's one of the cheap ones, but it's hard to go wrong on a 9 dollar battery.
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Until it melts down in your battery compartment.
For Christmas I got a 3500mAh extended battery for my g2x. After I depleted the charge that came on it and gave it a full charge I went ahead and deleted the batterystats file. That first full charge seemed pretty meager and it wasn't until the next full charge did I get the life I expected. I figured it was due to the calibration. Now my question is when I switch back to the stock battery from time to time am I going to get funky readings? Do I have to calibrate each time I switch? And if so, will doing this always give me strange readings/short life by never allowing an accurate and complete batterystat file to build?
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For Christmas I got a 3500mAh extended battery for my g2x. After I depleted the charge that came on it and gave it a full charge I went ahead and deleted the batterystats file. That first full charge seemed pretty meager and it wasn't until the next full charge did I get the life I expected. I figured it was due to the calibration. Now my question is when I switch back to the stock battery from time to time am I going to get funky readings? Do I have to calibrate each time I switch? And if so, will doing this always give me strange readings/short life by never allowing an accurate and complete batterystat file to build?
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Since they are different mAh I would recalibrate. I also recalibrate when I change Roms.
OK and what about the other questions?
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Get Battery Manager Widget Pro from the marketplace. It lets you swap batterystats.bin files when you change batteries so you can keep your calibrations.
Would that be Battery Monitor Widget Pro?
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Where did you buy the battery from?
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Got it for Christmas. It was bought from Amazon for about 15 dollars that's all I know. But it works like a charm!
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Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Your battery is bad. Same thing happened to me, I recommend just buying a new OEM battery from a reputable dealer on Amazon, that's what I did. Try setting it down on a table and push on one side and if it rocks back and forth its bad. Or you can just look at it and see its swollen
Mine did that and it was just a bad battery. If you take the battery out and place it on a flat surface you may notice that it rocks left and right. If it rocks a lot or if you feel the middle and it feels swollen it may be symptoms of a bad battery.
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Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
brenduh said:
Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
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It is dangerous because battery acid can get on you and cause sever skin irritation. You can continue like this for 1 to 2 days MAX until you get your new battery. Try not to use it because using it more will cause it to swell more, DUH try to only use it for emergencies and then once you get the new battery clean the terminals and you'll be good to go
I used mine got a while like that because i didn't know it was the battery lol
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Thank you all, I wasn't sure what it was cause I can still pull over a day of battery life when it wants to lol. Looks like I'm on the hunt for a new one
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
I'm still using my old vibrant battery (at times). I don't think that it's as strong as the spare that I purchased a few months ago, but, is on par with the 18 month old battery that came with the phone. I zap them all the way down a lot of the time (then swap to a fully charged one). I do(try) to recharge to full before use though.
Mine does it but only when I'm using wifi or data could that still be a bad battery
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
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I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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Hechoen.......I use mine till under 10% or so and then full charge it. Been doing that over a year now. My wife however plugs hers in off and on throughout the day without letting it full charge all at once and she has a bad battery....
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Shallow discharge cycles are generally accepted to be better for Li-ion batteries than deep ones.
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I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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That is probably a bad idea. I would try to plug it in around 15-20% with 20% being the best time. According to the batteryuniversity website 20-80% is ideal for li-ion batteries because it keeps the heat down. Charging from less than 15% creates heat because that is a low level and takes a bit longer to charge from therefore exposes the battery to more heat. A good charger and battery will shut off the charger once it hits 100% and only allow for a trickle charge if the battery drops below 100%. But I have seen my phone get hotter from about 85% to 100% if Im using it ie: plugged in and streaming music or using navigation.