I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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When you get it, deplete it, but do not let it die. Ever. Then just cycle it normally.
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When you get it, deplete it, but do not let it die. Ever. Then just cycle it normally.
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What do you mean by "die".... like to 0%, if so what should we take it down to?
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What do you mean by "die".... like to 0%, if so what should we take it down to?
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Yes, by letting your battery "die", per se, you're letting it deplete to 0%. I'd say for safe measure, between 5%-9%. But if you're in the vicinity of a charger take it down to 2%. If not, turn it off at 5%, then plug it in before powering it back on. My devices' daily life lasts so long (on all devices I own) because I properly know how to cycle a battery.
If you let your battery die (0%), it'll lose more and more charge (on a 0.00% level) every time. When you get it tomorrow though, it should have ~50%-60% charge.
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I'm going to try to purchase my Nexus S before class tomorrow when they open. Don't want to take any chances on it selling out. Would it be wise to turn it on and use it a while during the morning? Or does the battery need to be fully charged before using it to condition it and ensure a good battery life? I've read many battery tips but i'm still a little confused on whats better for a new battery.
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There's no need for that, only if it doesn't have any juice.
More info: batteryuniversity dot com
Battery life?
So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
You gotta give it a few charging cycles for the battery to reach it's full potential. Give its few days, you'll notice it will get better after you charged it a few times.
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The battery life on mine is chugging along pretty well. I gave it a full charge before hitting the streets. Its been 4 hours with wifi and GPS on with a couple dozen pictures taken and a bunch of apps dl and installed. used maps 5.0 and periodically hit the GPS for my position getting really good accuracy while driving and the battery level still has a little more than 4/5s battery life still remaining
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So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
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You haven't broken it in yet, use your brain.
The phones barely been out that long, it takes a while to have good statistics about battery life.
Myth on lion
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You haven't broken it in yet, use your brain.
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I haven't even reached the full 100% charge yet, been using it then charging it some then using it then charging it some. Lol
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So how are your batteries doing? Mine is kind of crappy. What supposedly changed in 2.3? I see no difference in the reporting of apps in Battery Use and they took away Battery History in the hidden system settings. Where is the graph everyone talked about?
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Myth on lion
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That's funny because every company that sells back up batteries tell you to go through 4-5 full cycles before it reaches its potential. I guess you're right, and they're all wrong.
They are wrong. Google it
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how do I train my battery it was halfway charged when i got it do I let it die and then put it on the charger thanks!
EDIT:WRONG SECTION DELETE THIS MODS!
I've always charged all the way up then ran the battery all the way down, then charged all the way up again. Then periodically, I will run the battery all the way down just to give it a little exercise. So far out of all the cell phones I have had I have had 1 battery go bad on me, that was 8-10years ago.
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how do I train my battery it was halfway charged when i got it do I let it die and then put it on the charger thanks!
matter of opinion really.... I would kill it by playing with it.... then do a full charge
that is what I am doing
Generally the suggested method is to charge it for 8-12 hours as soon as you can, then use it until it gets very low, then charge for another 8-12 hours. Do this cycle about 3 to 4 times and you've got yourself a healthy battery.
Killing the battery entirely, despite popular belief, can have some negative effects on its health. Especially during is conditioning phase.
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I was wondering if anyone had a good app to drain the battery. I have heard that with Lithium Ion batteries it is a good idea to charge them to 100%, drain them, charge it back up, wash, rinse, repeat a few times in order to get the battery to the maximum amount of life.
1) Is there any truth to this practice?
2) Is there an app for this process?
From what I was told on other forums is the exact opposite. It is the old batteries that had what was called a memory and would not hold as good of a charge over time. I was told lithium ion actually works good when giving little charges here and there and does not need to be drained. I don't remember if I was told that here or on howard forums.
its called 4g on jk but thats what they say
if you wanna kill you battery super fast run killer instinct in snesoid
Freelancerx said:
if you wanna kill you battery super fast run killer instinct in snesoid
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super mario RPG lol
Turn on 4G and put it in a closet.
LOL! nuff said
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It's really not needed with a lithium ion battery, but some people still feel good doing it. There is an app called Screen Test. Once you load that you can switch to an all white screen at max brightness. Play some streaming music in the background and that should do it
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From what I was told on other forums is the exact opposite. It is the old batteries that had what was called a memory and would not hold as good of a charge over time. I was told lithium ion actually works good when giving little charges here and there and does not need to be drained. I don't remember if I was told that here or on howard forums.
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This is absolutely true. The only thing a full discharge does for you is increase the accuracy of the battery meter.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
what i did, was set my hero so it wouldn't turn the screen off, connected to my WiFi to get internet, and have music streaming till it dies, I've done it twice already to my Evo battery, I've got my hero battery in my Evo for now
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if you wanna kill you battery super fast run killer instinct in snesoid
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M-M-M-M-M-M-Monster Combo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just to actually contribute, I'll confirm what jeffrimerman said. The memory effect is most seen using Ni-Cd batteries, and somewhat (very little) on Ni-Mh batteries. Lithium Ion batteries actually aren't good to drain completely every time. Charging here and there, or even leaving your phone on the charger should, in theory, have absolutely no negative impact at all on the battery.
Hey,
Been getting great battery life on CM7, with texting, calls mostly, nothing extra.....
Just wanted to share.
I see it was put back on charger.....
Looks like it was charged from 30% to 75% halfway through.
Just noticed the spike up. How long was it on your charger?
it says 3day 13hrs but on battery it says 3d 11hrs right now
Well can you explain the spike? Induction charger? Bug? I've seen some custom battery drivers included with some kernels that make the battery level go up at times. That was after only a day of use, perhaps it evens and lengthens out over a period.
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Well can you explain the spike? Induction charger? Bug? I've seen some custom battery drivers included with some kernels that make the battery level go up at times. That was after only a day of use, perhaps it evens and lengthens out over a period.
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Spike is because it was charged.
G2X CM7
hah massive fail
If the 2 hour charge was halfway through the graph then 41 hours(1 day 17 hours) before hitting ~30% is pretty impressive.
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If the 2 hour charge was halfway through the graph then 41 hours(1 day 17 hours) before hitting ~30% is pretty impressive.
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Not if he's using an extended life battery, which he didn't speficy either way. My 4500mah battery lasted 64 hours on a single charge and still had like 10% left before I put it on a charger.
G2X CM7
Its the default battery that comes with G2X
I also calibrated the battery using the app in market, which seems to be giving pretty good battery nowadays.
Hmmm, I am not sure about the charge, I dont remember I charged it, might be when I was transferring stuff to phone using usb, which shouldnt been that long.....
Anyway, just wanted to share that getting good battery nowadays....thats the main point wanted to share
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Its the default battery that comes with G2X
I also calibrated the battery using the app in market, which seems to be giving pretty good battery nowadays.
Hmmm, I am not sure about the charge, I dont remember I charged it, might be when I was transferring stuff to phone using usb, which shouldnt been that long.....
Anyway, just wanted to share that getting good battery nowadays....thats the main point wanted to share
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That'd be a charge.
awaisuk said:
Its the default battery that comes with G2X
I also calibrated the battery using the app in market, which seems to be giving pretty good battery nowadays.
Hmmm, I am not sure about the charge, I dont remember I charged it, might be when I was transferring stuff to phone using usb, which shouldnt been that long.....
Anyway, just wanted to share that getting good battery nowadays....thats the main point wanted to share
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It charged at least 45%.....
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Not if he's using an extended life battery, which he didn't speficy either way. My 4500mah battery lasted 64 hours on a single charge and still had like 10% left before I put it on a charger.
G2X CM7
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Got a link for that battery? That sounds bad ass..
BS
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Amused.
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smashpunks said:
Got a link for that battery? That sounds bad ass..
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http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...tery-for-lg-optimus-2x-p990-t-mobile-g2x.html
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http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...tery-for-lg-optimus-2x-p990-t-mobile-g2x.html
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That's great if you don't mind carrying around a brick in your pocket. That thing more than doubles the thickness of the phone!
CrazyCharlie said:
That's great if you don't mind carrying around a brick in your pocket. That thing more than doubles the thickness of the phone!
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Ya not the most practical. But a long day out say needing to take pics, this would be perfect. Our like me around the house playing games on the tegra..
Thanks to the guy who linked
Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Had my baby for a little over a year and a half, been nothing but a great phone in that time. This is where the problem starts... I'll be using it like normal, texting and surfing, and will have 98% battery, the phone will shut down, and when it decides to start back up, I will have 14% battery or less.... But it will go up if I leave it alone..... I've tried wiping the battery stats, even charging with the phone off, nothing is working. I will attach screenshots so you can see what's up.
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Your battery is bad. Same thing happened to me, I recommend just buying a new OEM battery from a reputable dealer on Amazon, that's what I did. Try setting it down on a table and push on one side and if it rocks back and forth its bad. Or you can just look at it and see its swollen
Mine did that and it was just a bad battery. If you take the battery out and place it on a flat surface you may notice that it rocks left and right. If it rocks a lot or if you feel the middle and it feels swollen it may be symptoms of a bad battery.
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Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
brenduh said:
Same thing has been happening to me for the past two days. I just took out my battery and sure enough it is swollen. Thanks for input!
edit: Is it dangerous to keep using it like this for the next few days until the new battery comes in?
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It is dangerous because battery acid can get on you and cause sever skin irritation. You can continue like this for 1 to 2 days MAX until you get your new battery. Try not to use it because using it more will cause it to swell more, DUH try to only use it for emergencies and then once you get the new battery clean the terminals and you'll be good to go
I used mine got a while like that because i didn't know it was the battery lol
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Thank you all, I wasn't sure what it was cause I can still pull over a day of battery life when it wants to lol. Looks like I'm on the hunt for a new one
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
I'm still using my old vibrant battery (at times). I don't think that it's as strong as the spare that I purchased a few months ago, but, is on par with the 18 month old battery that came with the phone. I zap them all the way down a lot of the time (then swap to a fully charged one). I do(try) to recharge to full before use though.
Mine does it but only when I'm using wifi or data could that still be a bad battery
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I'm curious about charging habits of the people who have bad batteries. I have had my phone since the day it came out and my battery is still fine. I never let it get below 30% unless I'm testing a new ROM. Killing lithium ion batteries is really bad for them. So how many of you drain it all the way on a regular basis?
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I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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Hechoen.......I use mine till under 10% or so and then full charge it. Been doing that over a year now. My wife however plugs hers in off and on throughout the day without letting it full charge all at once and she has a bad battery....
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Shallow discharge cycles are generally accepted to be better for Li-ion batteries than deep ones.
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codealarms said:
I run mine down to 1 percent on a daily basis. Never let it die though. I was under the impression that if you let it drain to zero you're asking for trouble. I could easily change my ways though.
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That is probably a bad idea. I would try to plug it in around 15-20% with 20% being the best time. According to the batteryuniversity website 20-80% is ideal for li-ion batteries because it keeps the heat down. Charging from less than 15% creates heat because that is a low level and takes a bit longer to charge from therefore exposes the battery to more heat. A good charger and battery will shut off the charger once it hits 100% and only allow for a trickle charge if the battery drops below 100%. But I have seen my phone get hotter from about 85% to 100% if Im using it ie: plugged in and streaming music or using navigation.
hhi,
is it goot to charge the mobile frequently or only after battery drain?
shellx said:
hhi,
is it goot to charge the mobile frequently or only after battery drain?
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Lifehacker had an article on this a few months ago. It was more detailed than this but the main idea I gathered from the article was to charge it to around 90% then let it discharge to about 40% then charge it back to 90ish. Also avoid charging it/unplugging it often. I deliver pizza so I suck at abiding by those rules Cuz I'm in and out of my car so much.
Ps. I leave my laptop on and plugged in all the time and after a year it won't hold a charge at all. So I'm thinking leaving it charging after its fully charged might be the worst thing to do. Hope I helped.
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Please enjoy this awesome article.
Honestly, a big part of the reason I went for the Samsung Galaxy SIII is because I don't have to worry about babying the battery; a battery that will inevitably lose charge no matter what. If/when it gets old/abused enough to bother me, I can just get a new one if I'm still using the phone then. :good:
Is fast charging on the S7 ok for the battery or it damages it by time ? I mean i want my phone to hold on for at least 3 years.
Should i disable this option to increase the total battery health ?
With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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olafsand said:
With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.
InsanePostman said:
Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.
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It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!
So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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I have never heard anyone being able to prove fast charging causing shortened battery life. There are a lot of guessing around, but the only difference I have seen is that the phone gets slightly warmer to the touch both after fast charging with cable and wireless. Not so hot so that I would suspect damage. After all, since the charging ends a lot faster the total amount of heat surely isn't higher than that with slow charging. Using the phone will sometimes make it warmer than this.
One could perhaps suspect a higher risk for fire with fast charging, but there is no proof for that either.
The choice is yours!
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So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?
gerhard_wa said:
This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
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So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?
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You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?
RootNightmareX said:
So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?
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Disable fast charging if it heats up your battery too much. Otherwise no need.
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gerhard_wa said:
It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!
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That is a generalization based upon nothing but your personal opinion. All I said is that batteries absolutely last longer than 3 years.
Try this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=pt_PT
It gives information about charge/discharge and also battery health based on your use.