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Sup all would anyone have the actual TRRS pinouts for the audio jack for the desire I would like to make a up a lead that will allow me to plug an ordinary pair of headphones in using a proper TRRS jack instead of a TRS jack. thanks. There are definately issues plugging in a headphone directly or maybe it is my unit faulty?
Edited, this topic will show you the best way to connect your headphones to your desire as some people will experiance problems with pluggin in normal 3.5 jack plug headphones, this is due to the desire using a trrs socket for the microphone instead of a trs socket that normal headphones use.
pretty sure it is:
tip - left audio
ring 1 (closest to tip) - right audio
ring 2 - data of some kind
shield - ground
Hope this helps
cheers for that, im having some peeps tell me that i can just plug in an ordinary pair of headphones into the phone without any ill effects, i am concerned that i will have a problem because headphones are trs jacks and the desire has the trrs 3.5 jack. can anyone confirm any details on this for me please
nah you can use a normal TRS 3.5mm jack with no problems. I guess that when you use a normal TRS jack then shield and ring 2 on the connector are both connected to shield on the jack so it adjusts the software accordingly. But yea, no problems.
cheers for that
edited, we have since discovered that this is not the case, please read the entire topic for the correct way to connect headphones to the desire.
standard 3,5 mm (TRS) headphones DO CAUSE ISSUES
Was about to resend my HTC Desire, because it randomly called, skipped music stopped the music, FM-radio freeze etc. from the moment I connected my high-end 3,5mm headphone (TRS type: 3 contacts).
No issues with the standard headset delivered with the HTC Desire (TRRS type: 3,5mm 4 contacts).
So, you might need a TRS -> TRRS adapter.
Anyone with other experiences???
Basically what I have found is that many of the normal headphones are not working correctly because it is a trrs socket that is used. To me this would mean that normal headphones shouldnt be used, I have tried various headphones but there are definately issues with them,
The main issue I was having was as you have said above and also the base wasnt right with them
I have since bought this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130384433476&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
which arrive today and when I am using this in conjunction with my headphones I now have the proper base to the set and NONE of the problems I was having when i was plugging them into the phone directly......... they just didnt sound right, now using griffin smarttalk this i can definately tell the difference now especially in the base, also this unit will lower the volume and allow you to make a call automatically with built in mike, clicking it twice doesnt skip the track suggested instead it will ring the last number dialled in the phone so a bonus actually to me
the straight adapters ie trrs to trs are very nearly the same price as this if not more expensive so i would recommend this all day long to you. At £9.75 delivered bargain m8, bought late evening on the 20th arrived this morning what more can i say, but if you are having issues it is definately in my eyes because of the difference in the trrs socket to the trs socket,
the base is fantastic on this phone now, before it was terrible, now i just need an equaliser to remove some of it
When you speak of "normal headphones", are you referring to simple 3.5 TRS headphones, or headphones with a mic ?
Cause if the majority of the headphones (without mic I mean) won't properly work with the Desire, it's a major flaw according to me.
I confirm: TRS (3 contacts, without mic) do not work...
...I tried 4 different 3,5mm stereo headsets (TRS type, 3 pole, without mic). NONE of them worked correctly (phenomenons as described above).
When you plug a 3 pole TRS headphone in the Desire 4 pole TRRS headphone output, a short circuit is generated between the first 2 internal contacts (seen from connector input: ground + control line).
I suspect that the Desire firmware cannot detect/handle this situation, and so it causes random actions (prev, next, call numbers, stop, play, ....)
I suspect that this issue could be solved with a firmware upgrade....
there is no way they would release hardware with a 3.5mm socket that you cant plug a 3.5mm jack into right? the firmware does detect when you use a TRS instead of a TRRS. You get a different icon on your notification bar for each of them. As ive said before my AKG's have worked perfectly so far and have shown none of the problems listed above.
This afternoon I quickly tested my Seinheiser PX100 headphones with a friend's desire and the Htc music player.
It worked flawlessly. Volume was good and it didn't play/pause/skipped tracks.
As I said it was a really quick test so I can't say for sure that everything's was okay.
Nonetheless apparently a lot of people experienced problems with numerous headphones. To me it's really a shame you can't even plug ANY 3.5mm jack headphones with the desire ...
I hope a software update could fix this.
I also had this problem when connecting my Desire to my car radio using an standard 3.5mm AUX cable. Will this cable solve my problem or will my car radio not be able to recognize a 4 pole cable?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/3-5mm-Male-TRRS-...erAccess_RL&hash=item5d28c530c1#ht_1252wt_939
I think this might be an issue of certain cables not making a full connection due to the shape of the case surrounding the socket. I had no problems with my headphones, sound was good and loud enough although I could see how it might not be loud enough for some.
I did start having issues when I plugged the aux lead in my car into the phone. The lead has a large shroud that obstructed the plug from being plugged all the way in. This gave the same problems as described in other posts, skipping tracks and also crashing the music software at one point.
I replaced the lead with another that had a better fit and the problems went away but I did notice when I leaned against the lead while it was playing music in my car it started skipping track again.
I wonder what HTC have to say about this....
DHel01 said:
I also had this problem when connecting my Desire to my car radio using an standard 3.5mm AUX cable. Will this cable solve my problem or will my car radio not be able to recognize a 4 pole cable?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/3-5mm-Male-TRRS-...erAccess_RL&hash=item5d28c530c1#ht_1252wt_939
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I solved those problems with this lead- i dont think the one your showing will work for you
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220593400305
they come from china etc however only 5 days to arrive from ordering.
and I now enjoy trouble free music. I also have ordered the Griffin Smart Talk so i can listen to my headphones and be able to answer the phone as well however I didnt want to use it for plugging into a car stereo etc etc so i wanted a straight lead conversion.
Just a quick warning the first lead i ordered from this person was faulty, however i had also ordered 3 other leads from the same person as an after thought which were all perfect.. as they are only pennies it is worth ordering one or two spare for redundancy purposes. I decided to order 3 as backups more in case i broke one and the person stopped selling them etc etc
These leads will allow you to connect the htc to any other source including external speakers which didnt work when putting them in normally but did work when i used this cable in conjunction with it.
this cable is a trrs to trs jack plug and is used to convert a 4 pin socket to a 3 pin socket jack plug.
I've been using a pair of JVC Gummy Air on my Desire since I got it, not a single problem.
Re: TRRS Pinouts for Desire
I've used some headphones, and 2 different aux connector for the cars and all 3 work absolutely perfectly. No issues at all.
Sent from my HTC Desire
I have been using my Yuin PK3 earbuds for music since I got my Desire and it has been working without any problems.
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I've been using a pair of JVC Gummy Air on my Desire since I got it, not a single problem.
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Oh yeah and I've also hooked it into the tv via a standard audio cable!
Not sure what you guys are talking about but my AIAIAI headset works fine with the Desire
Mic working too!
aiaiai.dk/headsets/tracks-headsets/tracks-headset-black.html
^those
Sennheiser PXC 250 with NR, no problems
The right channel is the only one that works with any pair of 3.5mm speakers/headphones, i have not tested bluetooth.
The internal speaker plays both channels fine, but with speakers/headphones there is just a VERY faint buzzing/humming in the left one.
Tested Sennheiser CX475, Logitech X-240, JVC Marshmallow, older altec lansing and harmon kardon PC speakers, all with the same result. All of them work as intended when connected to another source.
Running stock 2.3.6 with k0nane's rooted kernel and shabbypenguin's CWM
Not sure if this is a HW or SW problem but i bought the phone on saturday 4/28 so i still have until the 12th for a T-Mo store replacement exchange.
Update: Sound is fine over bluetooth, so it's probably not a software problem, guess i'll just trek to the T-Mobile store again.
This may sound stupid, but do you have the jack plugged all the way in? I had a car aux cable plugged in a couple of times with this phone when it would sort of work, but was not clicked in all the way.
May not be your problem, but it's an easy thing to check.
Yeah, I'd agree. It seems like Samsung headphone jacks are "tighter" than what a lot of other devices are. My samsung hs3000 headphone adapter and the headphone jack on the phone itself, are both much "tighter" than my sony mw600 jack.
Yeah, I know what you're thinking!
Just saying that it's pretty easy to think you're plugging in the headphone plug all the way on some jacks, when really you're not.
jenbek said:
The right channel is the only one that works with any pair of 3.5mm speakers/headphones, i have not tested bluetooth.
The internal speaker plays both channels fine, but with speakers/headphones there is just a VERY faint buzzing/humming in the left one.
Tested Sennheiser CX475, Logitech X-240, JVC Marshmallow, older altec lansing and harmon kardon PC speakers, all with the same result. All of them work as intended when connected to another source.
Running stock 2.3.6 with k0nane's rooted kernel and shabbypenguin's CWM
Not sure if this is a HW or SW problem but i bought the phone on saturday 4/28 so i still have until the 12th for a T-Mo store replacement exchange.
Update: Sound is fine over bluetooth, so it's probably not a software problem, guess i'll just trek to the T-Mobile store again.
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Go to settings/Accessibility and uncheck MONO ;-) This feature is for listening to one earpiece (Wired)
Hi all, I got a Moto G 8gb from Phones4U, and my Bose QC15 noise canceling headphones made a nasty clicking noise every time they were plugged in. The clicking would happen no matter if something was playing or not. Nothing would play out of either channel, and the software would randomly pause whenever they were plugged in, as if they were being unplugged. Various cheap earbuds worked, but not my QC15s. I factory reset it three times, and obviously tried the headphones on about a half dozen devices, including a Galaxy IV, iPhone 5C, Nexus 5, my laptop, my desktop, and an old iPod Classic -- all worked perfectly.
I took it to Phones4U and exchanged it for another model, which had the exact same problem. We tried a 16gb version and it had the exact same problem too. Then we tried it with various other phones and my QC15s worked, so they told me that my headphones must obviously not be compatible with the Moto G line. Then they said I wasn't even eligible for a refund because it was about compatibility, not a defect. I raised hell and finally got them to refund it, but now I don't know what to do. Anybody else have noise canceling headphones, especially the QC15s, that they have successfully or unsuccessfully used?
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Hi all, I got a Moto G 8gb from Phones4U, and my Bose QC15 noise canceling headphones made a nasty clicking noise every time they were plugged in. The clicking would happen no matter if something was playing or not. Nothing would play out of either channel, and the software would randomly pause whenever they were plugged in, as if they were being unplugged. Various cheap earbuds worked, but not my QC15s. I factory reset it three times, and obviously tried the headphones on about a half dozen devices, including a Galaxy IV, iPhone 5C, Nexus 5, my laptop, my desktop, and an old iPod Classic -- all worked perfectly.
I took it to Phones4U and exchanged it for another model, which had the exact same problem. We tried a 16gb version and it had the exact same problem too. Then we tried it with various other phones and my QC15s worked, so they told me that my headphones must obviously not be compatible with the Moto G line. Then they said I wasn't even eligible for a refund because it was about compatibility, not a defect. I raised hell and finally got them to refund it, but now I don't know what to do. Anybody else have noise canceling headphones, especially the QC15s, that they have successfully or unsuccessfully used?
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You were probably a bit hasty returning the phone just for this, but you're right there's something screwy about the Moto G's handling of wired earphones that are more complex than basic stereo. I can't get any 3-button remote headset to work with it properly, for example. No doubt Motorola will deal with this in future updates ... unless they only want us to buy the Sol Republic Jax earphones, which would not be good ...
I'm also surprised you got a refund, as Motorola doesnt claim compatability with your headset. Also surprised that Phones4U now have 16GB in stock
ghtop said:
You were probably a bit hasty returning the phone just for this, but you're right there's something screwy about the Moto G's handling of wired earphones that are more complex than basic stereo. I can't get any 3-button remote headset to work with it properly, for example. No doubt Motorola will deal with this in future updates ... unless they only want us to buy the Sol Republic Jax earphones, which would not be good ...
I'm also surprised you got a refund, as Motorola doesnt claim compatability with your headset. Also surprised that Phones4U now have 16GB in stock
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Just for the record I have a 16gb Colors edition from Brazil and I use a Sennheiser bluetooth headphone with my Moto G (PX 210 BT) and it works beautifully!
I can use all its buttons with no problem: play/pause, volume up and down and skip track forward/backward.
One interesting thing I noticed was: the headphone did not perform very well with Google Play Music. Both sound quality (it would constantly click during playback) and the buttons (play/pause button would only work with screen on) were not up to standard.
However when I installed my player of preference, PlayerPro, and messed a little bit in the settings of the app with audio priority and with the keyguard settings both audio quality and buttons were working great!
shd_cheap_cigar said:
Just for the record I have a 16gb Colors edition from Brazil and I use a Sennheiser bluetooth headphone with my Moto G (PX 210 BT) and it works beautifully! e
I can use all its buttons with no problem: play/pause, volume up and down and skip track forward/backward.
One interesting thing I noticed was: the headphone did not perform very well with GooglPlay Music. Both sound quality (it would constantly click during playback) and the buttons (play/pause button would only work with screen on) were not up to standard.
However when I installed my player of preference, PlayerPro, and messed a little bit in the settings of the app with audio priority and with the keyguard settings both audio quality and buttons were working great!
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Yes, bluetooth is another matter of course. But I guess he has a reason to be sore when those wired Bose QC15 headphones cost twice as much as the phone itself
Workaround to make them work
I have the same problem connecting my QC15 with moto G. With some experimenting I somehow made them work and they are perfectly fine now. Follow the below steps to make them work with your phone.
1. Disconnect the headphones to the phone and start music on any player(Google play or your choice) on the phone.
2. Once the song starts playing insert the headphones into the jack. Imp Note: remove the headset part from the wire.you should only insert the wire without having the headset piece.
3. Now the song will continue to play. Now switch on the headphone and insert the wire into the headphone. It should work now.
I know this shouldn't be the actual scenario, but engineers at Motorola have made up some mess which cannot be cleaned up now with respects to hardware. The phone is little wierd on headphones port. Its not working with aux cables in my car too
I have SMS street by 50 cent and every thing works fine. skip/pause and previous track
Sent from my XT1032 using xda app-developers app
Same problem
I've experienced the same problem with Bose QC15 and the Moto G. Motorola support were rude and unhelpful, first assuming that the QC15 were bluetooth and telling me flat out that it was not a fault of their hardware. Eventually I got a ticket raised so we'll see what happens. Not holding my breath.
bonthukarthik, your fix works - thank you for sharing - although I must add that this step has to be repeated whenever playback is stopped or paused (including when Spotify plays an advertisement). If I find anything out from Motorola, I will share it here.
I just got some qc15's and they only worked out of the left ear with the moto x. I used the work around above and they now work. weird. play/pause button now works but the volume does not on the inline headphone controls.
What kind of connector this headset/headphone has?
CTIA or OMTP?
I have skullcandy 2xl single button headphones and it doesn't work
when i attach the headphones the music pauses
Confirmed
I can confirm this issue with Moto X and also the workaround. I have contacted Motorola but so far no luck in getting through to someone who can open an issue internally
Skullcandy not working
Have the same problem
I have the skull candy inkd 2
It only works when its 3/4 inside but when I push it all the way in a clicking noise plays
Please find a solution
Hi.
I just got a moto g, I have a bose qc3 and the same problem.
It seemed tome that it seemed to me that it was connection or impedance related... so I tried a few things.
The best way I found to make it work fast is plugging it in using the airplane jack adapter. It works perfectly fine but the remote won't work.
I guessed that it means that it's remote/impedance related.
Like it was said before, unplugging the jack on your headset, playing something on the phone and plugging it it afterwards works too... But I really don't know why !
Any clues, anyone (with advances electronic skills)?
With my former android phones I had troubles using the answer/play remote on some headphones/buds, but never like that. It was allways clear to me that iphone and android headset/buds remotes work in a different way, and sometimes even differently depending on your android model or brand...
My guess is that using a cable without a remote will work... but it's be nicer to have a working remote.
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I found something, just a clue, I don't mean it'll work for sure.
http://m.instructables.com/id/Galaxy-Nexus-and-others-headset-remote-with-medi/
Alright here are some more details / partial solutions :
- If you plug your qc using the jack with the remote/mic and the airplane adpter, the sound sill work, but you'll lose the mic and commands. Basically it's the same as if you plugged it in usgin a "regular" jack cable (that bose sells, or used to, btw)
- if you use the "play and then plug jack in headset" workaround, sound will work, the main button too : it'll play/pause, but if you stop and quit tha music app, the problem will come back
- almost the same with a call, if you call your phone and wait for it to ring before pluging the jack into your hedset the sound will work both sound and mic, but the button fonctions are weird : at first it'll aswer the call, but afterwards it'll work as an on/off switch for the mic.
- Best solution I found : when you plug your headset and have the parasite problem, just press the main button on your remote, it'll stop the problem... but the button won't work anymore, either to answer/hangup or play/pause. I use this solution ftm, even if I don't think it's good for the headset to have this clicking parasite, and I'm still waiting on a way to make everything work all the time.
Any ideas ?
Mat
Matlevo12 said:
Any ideas ?
Mat
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Have you tried with a CTIA to OMTP converter .
Hi, thanks.
No, i should, but I thought that all android phones were ctia now... I don't have my moto handless kit with me, but I'll try it with my gf's xperia sp to see if it works with it, since my bose headset works perfectly with the xperia.
Anyone knows if the moto g is ctia ?
Any other ideas ?
dunsanyun1999 said:
Have the same problem
I have the skull candy inkd 2
It only works when its 3/4 inside but when I push it all the way in a clicking noise plays
Please find a solution
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All Stereo Head phones normally use a 3 Pin Jack, Cell phones use a 4 pin, I found this out before with some other audio products..
I confirm all the informations about the problem and the workaround concerning a Moto X and the QC15 I just got. I hope a solution will be found. Does anybody tried that amazon product ?
[email protected] said:
I confirm all the informations about the problem and the workaround concerning a Moto X and the QC15 I just got. I hope a solution will be found. Does anybody tried that amazon product ?
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I have a Droid Maxx and the QC15. The android inline remote & mic kit from Amazon have the same problem as the iphone cable that comes with the QC15 headphones. Quite annoying. Also, I can't get the workaround to work. No matter what I do, I only get sound from the left speaker.
I had a similar problem (no audio, weird noise in right ear) with Moto-G and QC15. The workaround that succeeded for me was to change the headphone gain from Hi to Lo. The gain switch is in the plug that connects the wire to the left earcup.
This supports the suggestion that the issue is caused by some impedance measurement routine on the phone.
J
This is a strange problem i am facing
it started unexpectedly
the problem over here is that my phone is not able to recognize between earphones and speaker after connecting earphones
dont know whats the problem over here is
the earphones would work at first and then all of a sudden it stops to recognize it
this happened with two of my earphones (no earphone problem cause they work with other phones
is anybody else experiencing this problems?
after trying to figure out what is happening i opened up audio fx to see if its creating problems and this is what i saw
as u can see in the video above the phone is not connected to any earpiece
at 0.02 i connect the earphones and for just a second it recognizes the earphone and then keeps switching between headset and speaker mode
then the video contains various attempts of connecting earphones and getting the same result
Heres a logcat https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B--cxicb-CQGS2J1blVmUnVkNGM&authuser=0
(sorry cannot paste to pastebin ,since it exceeds max size limit)
Device:-XT1033
ROM:-AICP (happened with diff roms in the past too)
kernel:-hurtsky(again happened with another diff kernel in the past)
@matmutant
sorry to tag u here
i can think of nobody else when it comes to hardware probs
since u have knowledge about it
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@matmutant
sorry to tag u here
i can think of nobody else when it comes to hardware probs
since u have knowledge about it
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hmmm, ok,
Are they "simple" earphones ==> ones that doesn't have any call/music/volume triggers
Did you tried with the AUX-IN of a HiFi installation (with a jack-audio cable plugged to the AUX-IN of it)
Did you tried Apple vs non-apple earphones (the ground and microphones rings on the jack are usually reversed)
What i know about jack port is only that impedance is important for phones : that's the way the earphones are detected and how the triggers work when there are some.
At first read i have no idea about your problem, but it might be a dirty port OR an issue with the controller
You may read the following, and try to play with it:
https://source.android.com/accessories/headset-spec.html
matmutant said:
hmmm, ok,
Are they "simple" earphones ==> ones that doesn't have any call/music/volume triggers
Did you tried with the AUX-IN of a HiFi installation (with a jack-audio cable plugged to the AUX-IN of it)
Did you tried Apple vs non-apple earphones (the ground and microphones rings on the jack are usually reversed)
What i know about jack port is only that impedance is important for phones : that's the way the earphones are detected and how the triggers work when there are some.
At first read i have no idea about your problem, but it might be a dirty port OR an issue with the controller
You may read the following, and try to play with it:
https://source.android.com/accessories/headset-spec.html
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1>No they are not simple earphones
2>no never tried using AUX-IN on moto g
3>No,no apple earphones were connected to it
the earphones that i used here was from samsung and karbonn(a local brand,that is)
these two earphones used to work with my phone but all of a sudden it stopped!!
inserting them sometimes gives a repeated sound of distortion(cant explain that ....but theres some noise)
Im having the same problem! It's definitely a phone issue... Thing is, I used it with my hudl brand aux cable and that works just fine with the phone but my headphones won't? (I don't know if this inf helps or hinders but I figured it might be important)
A_Strange_Dwarf said:
Im having the same problem! It's definitely a phone issue... Thing is, I used it with my hudl brand aux cable and that works just fine with the phone but my headphones won't? (I don't know if this inf helps or hinders but I figured it might be important)
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So apparently it works better with two-ring headphones, ones that don't have any play/pause buttons or microphones built in? Turns out my headphones have 3 rings on the jack. So apparently, i just have to buy a whole new pair of headphones that only have 2 rings but I don't see why I should spend anymore money just because Motorola ****ed up?
Hello,
A few days ago my earphones were working fine in my lenovo P2 but then one day it started to produce muffled sound.
I pulled the headphone jack up a little bit and after some twists only the right side was producing normal music. The headphones are working fine in computer and tried some other headphones also but the problem persists. I even tried the headphones that came with the phone but they are also having the same issue. The strange thing is that my other headphone Sennheiser HD 203 (I think it is one ring jack while the other headphones are 4 ringed) is working fine in it. What could be the issue.
Thanks
I also had the muffuling issue.
I had the issue from the stock ROM only, then went to Oreo but it was still their thou my fix was simple.
I flashed the lineage os 7.1.2 provided by @Wonder Wicked Witch and the problem is gone....do try this BTW everything is working on the ROM.
So do try it.I am currently using it.
I suggest a Hardware caused problem.
Check for collections of dust, hair and other debris that got stuck in the headphone jack. Use pliers to get it out.
Because "normal" headphones work fine and ones that go deeper in (with mic or controls ) don't, I really suggest you check that, because all the dust gets stuffed in to the end of the port, so jacks that aren't as long won't have any issue.
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Hi. I have a audio problem in my Lenovo p2. The audio is very bad when using a normal earphones, but when I use an Universal earphones like Ubon etc etc., it has the setting in it which makes the audio good. The big problem is that I cannot use any other normal earphones instead I have to use universal earphones like UBON universal earphones. Please help me out with this. I have tried factory reset also many times, the issues is still the same.