Sup all would anyone have the actual TRRS pinouts for the audio jack for the desire I would like to make a up a lead that will allow me to plug an ordinary pair of headphones in using a proper TRRS jack instead of a TRS jack. thanks. There are definately issues plugging in a headphone directly or maybe it is my unit faulty?
Edited, this topic will show you the best way to connect your headphones to your desire as some people will experiance problems with pluggin in normal 3.5 jack plug headphones, this is due to the desire using a trrs socket for the microphone instead of a trs socket that normal headphones use.
pretty sure it is:
tip - left audio
ring 1 (closest to tip) - right audio
ring 2 - data of some kind
shield - ground
Hope this helps
cheers for that, im having some peeps tell me that i can just plug in an ordinary pair of headphones into the phone without any ill effects, i am concerned that i will have a problem because headphones are trs jacks and the desire has the trrs 3.5 jack. can anyone confirm any details on this for me please
nah you can use a normal TRS 3.5mm jack with no problems. I guess that when you use a normal TRS jack then shield and ring 2 on the connector are both connected to shield on the jack so it adjusts the software accordingly. But yea, no problems.
cheers for that
edited, we have since discovered that this is not the case, please read the entire topic for the correct way to connect headphones to the desire.
standard 3,5 mm (TRS) headphones DO CAUSE ISSUES
Was about to resend my HTC Desire, because it randomly called, skipped music stopped the music, FM-radio freeze etc. from the moment I connected my high-end 3,5mm headphone (TRS type: 3 contacts).
No issues with the standard headset delivered with the HTC Desire (TRRS type: 3,5mm 4 contacts).
So, you might need a TRS -> TRRS adapter.
Anyone with other experiences???
Basically what I have found is that many of the normal headphones are not working correctly because it is a trrs socket that is used. To me this would mean that normal headphones shouldnt be used, I have tried various headphones but there are definately issues with them,
The main issue I was having was as you have said above and also the base wasnt right with them
I have since bought this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130384433476&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
which arrive today and when I am using this in conjunction with my headphones I now have the proper base to the set and NONE of the problems I was having when i was plugging them into the phone directly......... they just didnt sound right, now using griffin smarttalk this i can definately tell the difference now especially in the base, also this unit will lower the volume and allow you to make a call automatically with built in mike, clicking it twice doesnt skip the track suggested instead it will ring the last number dialled in the phone so a bonus actually to me
the straight adapters ie trrs to trs are very nearly the same price as this if not more expensive so i would recommend this all day long to you. At £9.75 delivered bargain m8, bought late evening on the 20th arrived this morning what more can i say, but if you are having issues it is definately in my eyes because of the difference in the trrs socket to the trs socket,
the base is fantastic on this phone now, before it was terrible, now i just need an equaliser to remove some of it
When you speak of "normal headphones", are you referring to simple 3.5 TRS headphones, or headphones with a mic ?
Cause if the majority of the headphones (without mic I mean) won't properly work with the Desire, it's a major flaw according to me.
I confirm: TRS (3 contacts, without mic) do not work...
...I tried 4 different 3,5mm stereo headsets (TRS type, 3 pole, without mic). NONE of them worked correctly (phenomenons as described above).
When you plug a 3 pole TRS headphone in the Desire 4 pole TRRS headphone output, a short circuit is generated between the first 2 internal contacts (seen from connector input: ground + control line).
I suspect that the Desire firmware cannot detect/handle this situation, and so it causes random actions (prev, next, call numbers, stop, play, ....)
I suspect that this issue could be solved with a firmware upgrade....
there is no way they would release hardware with a 3.5mm socket that you cant plug a 3.5mm jack into right? the firmware does detect when you use a TRS instead of a TRRS. You get a different icon on your notification bar for each of them. As ive said before my AKG's have worked perfectly so far and have shown none of the problems listed above.
This afternoon I quickly tested my Seinheiser PX100 headphones with a friend's desire and the Htc music player.
It worked flawlessly. Volume was good and it didn't play/pause/skipped tracks.
As I said it was a really quick test so I can't say for sure that everything's was okay.
Nonetheless apparently a lot of people experienced problems with numerous headphones. To me it's really a shame you can't even plug ANY 3.5mm jack headphones with the desire ...
I hope a software update could fix this.
I also had this problem when connecting my Desire to my car radio using an standard 3.5mm AUX cable. Will this cable solve my problem or will my car radio not be able to recognize a 4 pole cable?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/3-5mm-Male-TRRS-...erAccess_RL&hash=item5d28c530c1#ht_1252wt_939
I think this might be an issue of certain cables not making a full connection due to the shape of the case surrounding the socket. I had no problems with my headphones, sound was good and loud enough although I could see how it might not be loud enough for some.
I did start having issues when I plugged the aux lead in my car into the phone. The lead has a large shroud that obstructed the plug from being plugged all the way in. This gave the same problems as described in other posts, skipping tracks and also crashing the music software at one point.
I replaced the lead with another that had a better fit and the problems went away but I did notice when I leaned against the lead while it was playing music in my car it started skipping track again.
I wonder what HTC have to say about this....
DHel01 said:
I also had this problem when connecting my Desire to my car radio using an standard 3.5mm AUX cable. Will this cable solve my problem or will my car radio not be able to recognize a 4 pole cable?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/3-5mm-Male-TRRS-...erAccess_RL&hash=item5d28c530c1#ht_1252wt_939
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I solved those problems with this lead- i dont think the one your showing will work for you
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220593400305
they come from china etc however only 5 days to arrive from ordering.
and I now enjoy trouble free music. I also have ordered the Griffin Smart Talk so i can listen to my headphones and be able to answer the phone as well however I didnt want to use it for plugging into a car stereo etc etc so i wanted a straight lead conversion.
Just a quick warning the first lead i ordered from this person was faulty, however i had also ordered 3 other leads from the same person as an after thought which were all perfect.. as they are only pennies it is worth ordering one or two spare for redundancy purposes. I decided to order 3 as backups more in case i broke one and the person stopped selling them etc etc
These leads will allow you to connect the htc to any other source including external speakers which didnt work when putting them in normally but did work when i used this cable in conjunction with it.
this cable is a trrs to trs jack plug and is used to convert a 4 pin socket to a 3 pin socket jack plug.
I've been using a pair of JVC Gummy Air on my Desire since I got it, not a single problem.
Re: TRRS Pinouts for Desire
I've used some headphones, and 2 different aux connector for the cars and all 3 work absolutely perfectly. No issues at all.
Sent from my HTC Desire
I have been using my Yuin PK3 earbuds for music since I got my Desire and it has been working without any problems.
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I've been using a pair of JVC Gummy Air on my Desire since I got it, not a single problem.
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Oh yeah and I've also hooked it into the tv via a standard audio cable!
Not sure what you guys are talking about but my AIAIAI headset works fine with the Desire
Mic working too!
aiaiai.dk/headsets/tracks-headsets/tracks-headset-black.html
^those
Sennheiser PXC 250 with NR, no problems
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I'm on my second Audio adapter from Pocket PC Techs: http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT01. The first one would sometimes only play the left or right speaker and I'd have to jiggle the wire on the adapter for it to play properly. I returned this for a second one which worked fine up until last week when it started to pop the speakers in the car when the slightest jostling of the wire occured (hitting bumps). I've got it connected to the XDA 2 and then to a cassette adapter with 3.5mm jack in the car. The cassette adapter works fine on the iPAQ H3970 and the XDA 2 works perfectly with the included stereo headset. Another problem with the PPCTechs audio adapter is that the microphone doesn't work in the 2.5mm headset jack part.
I know there are people out there who have canibalized their included stereo headsets to make audio adapters and also people who have made their own USB adapters with audio out capabilities. Is anyone interested in making one for me?! I can send a canibalize-able stereo headset with the proper audio jack if needed.
I would like either:
- A modified stereo headset cable with microphone that connects to a female 3.5mm stereo headset jack.. or directly to a car cassette adapter.
...or...
- A serial port connection that can output stereo audio to a 3.5mm female audio jack, includes a microphone or 2.5mm mono headset jack, and provides charging capabilities.
I imagine the former choice would be easier, but none of my local electronics repair shops want to do it and I don't have the tools or experience to do it right. The latter would be nicer. I'd buy a car kit, but I havn't seen any that work with the XDA2 and provide audio out that can connect to the car stereo. I want both stereo music/movies to be played in the car stereo speakers as well as GPS navigation commands and (sometimes) phone calls... and I want Voice Command to work (hence the need for a microphone)!
Please PM me with costs if some one can do this for me.
Adamz- Did you push in the connector from the Audio all the way in? I used the handsfree set ( supplier with MMDA II) and it was not working properly and was also loose until I found that you have to really push it firmly.
I am suprised if you did do that and it still does not work as you said it has all the connectors
I am also looking for a similar solution using the same principle. The other sync input I use for mt GPS connector/ charger . was going to try the Audio adaptor that you are using with a mute box through to a speaker .
Can any one help?
Adamz:-
Did you read this topic?
Maybe this might work for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5061
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/images/accs/safetalk.jpg44
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Nah, I want stereo quality music to be played in the existing speakers in my car. I also want GPS navigator instructions to be played in the car stereo as well as phone calls. I've got a Bluetooth GPS reciever, so I don't really need a serial connection.
The PPCTechs adapter is fully inserted into the audio jack, although sometimes pushing it too far makes it stop working as well! But if I jiggle the wire, sometimes it does work... then if I hit a bump, maybe it will stop working.
I'm thinking the USB Cradle with Audio might be good. If that's got a 3.5mm female stereo jack in the back, I can plug the casette adapter into that. Plug the USB into a cigarette lighter adapter... and that should be all set sinc the Audio USB cradle supposedly has a microphone in it.
Those don't seem to be available yet though.
Found this on the net
http://www.boostaroo.com/products.html
Ok....I've fought with finding an adapter to go from 2.5mm to 3.5mm for ages now. Everything I've read indicates it needs to be 4 pole etc etc....I'm aware of that. However, every one I've tried is still producing mono output. For kicks, I've tried the following ALL with mono results:
-Blackberry Pearl stereo headset
-RadioShack catalog #274-004 3/32" to 1/8" Stereo Headset adapter (why wouldn't this work?)
-Just Wireless 08351 Stereo Adapter 2.5mm to 3.5mm from (Target/BestBuy)
-BodyGlove Stereo Sport Headset 7489401 (BestBuy)
Now, when I say these produce mono output, what I'm really saying is that there is only one channel of audio whatsoever...the other earpiece is totally silent.
Anyone had any luck finding something at a retailer without ordering online? I'll order if I have too though. Thanks.
Derek
here ya go:
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOR-Cell-Phone-...6158173QQihZ017QQcategoryZ20354QQcmdZViewItem
remeber google is your friend!
(btw, this is a 4 pole connector, the reason why all they othere ones youve tried doesnt work is cause they were three poled and the contacts dont match up)
The specs on this RadioShack adapter is specifically 4 pole....I checked that first. In fact, the packaging description reads:
"Turns a 3/32" 4-pole wireless phone headset jack into a 1/8" stereo headphone jack"
Check this link and you'll see what I'm talking about: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2603246&cp
I knew it needed to be 4 pole, and that's what I'm saying...every supposed 4 pole adapter I've tried hasn't worked.
Any other ideas?
NOTE: Also note I said I tried the Blackberry Pearl headset, which is also a 4 pole headset jack on taht phone so theoretically that headset should have worked perfectly.
i used to work at radioshack and i can tell you they dont carry any adapters that work with smartphones, i cant tell how many customers came in looking for the same thing.. the adapter on ebay works its just like the one i have
The problem is simple. Look at the base of the 2.5mm jack on the headphones that came with your phone, then look at the base of the 2.5mm jack on the adapter. You will notice that the base of the adapter is way bigger than those on the headphones and this prevents you from pushing the adaptor as far in the hole as it needs to be.
Stupid idiots at The Source were trying to tell me that it wouldn't work because of voltage...
Anyways, when buying an adapter, just make sure that the base of the 2.5mm is small enough so that it'll fit into the recessed 2.5mm in your phone. It is okay if it's just the three pin plug, it will still be in stereo.
given that the sprint has a 3.5mm jack for earphones, does the standard htc plug (where you charge / sync) also have a connection to listen to music? and if yes, does that then mean that we can plug in 2 sets of earphones? one on the 3.5mm and one on the htc mini- usb jack? i don't have standard htc headsets and i'm tempted to buy a set just to check...
cheers
I was able to test this with my headphones from my old Mogul and yes, it does work with both headphones connected at the same time -- audio from both.
HTH
thanks mate! now i can go ahead and buy a set. it actually provides a good alternative to continuous plugging and unplugging from the 3.5 jack. there is also bluetooth but the mini-usb gives me another option for tunez.
cheers
I got curious and tried it.
Can't figure out why you'd need it, but it works on my usc tp2
g2tl said:
I got curious and tried it.
Can't figure out why you'd need it, but it works on my usc tp2
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thanks mate, just tried it and it works fine as well. as to where i would use it:
1) gives me an alternative to constantly plug into the 3.5mm jack. ages ago i read that the plug connections eventually wear out. not sure about statistics and all though for the tp2. but a mate of mine did return his 6-month old unit for this reason. claims that one day the sounds were all gone. only by plugging in his headphones did he hear anything. he sent it back for replacement and the diagnosis showed that the plug connections were worn out. well in all fairness he did listen to his tunez 2 times a day...that meant plugging in and out twice a day as well. seems the phone was "stuck" in headset mode.
2) i use an i-tech bluetooth set of which i can plug in my noise cancellers. if the battery ran out, i can then plug into the 3.5mm. or, i recently got a mini-usb to 3.55mm headset converter. again, good alternative to constantly plugging into the 3.5 jack
3) my wife =) on a recent trip to canada...of which took ages...we shared the headset plugged into the 3.5 jack. by plugging into the mini-usb, that way we can both have our own headsets at the same time. quite weird to have one ear listening to tunez while the other being bombarded by sounds from the plane =)
cheers mate
Sorry, I did not see the previous replies ...
TP2 uses USB-B for charging and syncing. This USB-B has audio out as well as video out. I don't know if one takes priority over the other (USB-B audio or 3.5mm audio out), or if both can be used together.
Last week I ordered a USB-B cable to output video/audio to external monitor & speakers (watch movies externally) via RCA jacks (Right/Left/Video).
Why not just use a 3.5mm audio splitter jack to get dual out audio? (personally, I'd rather put wear & tear on a 3.5mm audio jack than a mini-USB jack ...). Seems a 3.5mm splitter would be simple clean output method. Additionally, you could use BT-Audio paired possibly to more than one device headset for dual audio out ...?
Is there a cable similar to this for the Epic?
http://www.amazon.com/Charge-Synch-..._1_9?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1284477615&sr=8-9
I'll likely be upgrading from a TP2 next month. One of the main multimedia functions I use my phone for is for listening to podcasts in the car over the stereo's speakers. But obviously you also want to be able to charge it at the same time. And instead of having to fiddle with two cables for this every time it would nice if you could just use one.
I don't think so. The reason the HTC phones had that was because they didn't have a 3.5mm jack on most of their older phones (correct me if I'm wrong about the TP2 but my Vogue required 2 adapters just to get a 3.5mm jack to plug my headphones in).
radar5 said:
I don't think so. The reason the HTC phones had that was because they didn't have a 3.5mm jack on most of their older phones (correct me if I'm wrong about the TP2 but my Vogue required 2 adapters just to get a 3.5mm jack to plug my headphones in).
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I had a feeling this probably wasn't available, but I had to ask as I've gotten accustomed to the ease of just plugging one cable in to my TP2.
I'm also not crazy about the USB slot being on the top as that creates some weird docking issues (not only for the car, but also at home.) But it's either this or the Evo and I was much more impressed with the Epic.
radar5 said:
I don't think so. The reason the HTC phones had that was because they didn't have a 3.5mm jack on most of their older phones (correct me if I'm wrong about the TP2 but my Vogue required 2 adapters just to get a 3.5mm jack to plug my headphones in).
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TP2 has a 3.5mm jack
The fact that desktop dock only has a micro-USB connection yet has a stereo out jack on the back (even though it doesn't work until 2.2) has me at least hopeful that maybe we'll eventually see a similar style adapter for the Samsungs. Heck, I'm tempted to try just slipping my miniUSC-to-micro-USB converter on my HTC version and seeing if that works.
Of course I don't have the phone yet. And it's not a big deal really as I just like having to only fiddle with one cable in the car.
Belkin Makes an adapter
I bought an ipod adapter that is suposed to convert the ipod style 3.5mm earphone jack with volume control to a standard 3.5mm headphone jack. When plugging standard headphones into my phone it would continue to play sound through the phone speaker, plug this Belkin Headphone adapter in and it seems to work perfectly. It in essence just ends the mic wire from the jack and disables the phone speaker.
I have been researching online about using car aux-in cable for making phone calls.
I heard that some phones work and some do not. In those cases, when it doesn't work, it means that the person in the phone cannot hear what you say, because by default the mic is muted when something is plugged in to the jack.
With HTC Sensation, does this happen? Is the phone mic muted when a headset/aux cable is plugged in to the phone? If yes, is there any workaround? What is the general solution to make phone calls via aux cable?
I heard that some people might use the griffin cable with mic, but since my aux port is located where the shifter is, I am not sure how the quality would be. Any idea?
Thanks
absolution8 said:
I have been researching online about using car aux-in cable for making phone calls.
I heard that some phones work and some do not. In those cases, when it doesn't work, it means that the person in the phone cannot hear what you say, because by default the mic is muted when something is plugged in to the jack.
With HTC Sensation, does this happen? Is the phone mic muted when a headset/aux cable is plugged in to the phone? If yes, is there any workaround? What is the general solution to make phone calls via aux cable?
I heard that some people might use the griffin cable with mic, but since my aux port is located where the shifter is, I am not sure how the quality would be. Any idea?
Thanks
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well, i hope this answers ur question
i have made calls/received calls via aux (when im listening to music in da car n get a phone call i dont uplug it, just answer)
i talk thru the mic normally and i hear the other person from tha car speakers.
so i guess the mic is not muted
From previous experience - though not with Sensation, as I'm all blue-tooth now, the following was true
If you plug in a normal 3.5mm TRS jack (stereo headphone / line-in / etc) the phone detects it as headphones and not headset, so the device realised there was no "in-line" mic, and used the phone's microphone itself.
A better option (which I did) was to fashion my own lead - using another HTC headset, but removing the two earphones, and soldering the cables to an in-line socket. This worked well, because I had a microphone clipped to me, with remote control for music (don't want to touch the phone when driving now, do we!!) and the stereo audio feed back to the car speakers. Cost me about £3 in total, including the second headset.
I would imagine this to be the same for the Sensation too, as all these sockets have various detection mechanisms, to make the right things happen, depending on what you connect.
Good luck, and safe driving!