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hey guys, first post around here and I have a question for the masses. Currently I'm on AT&T with the Captivate but we are going to have to switch off Ma Bell due to coverage issues at our house (we are going cell-only). My decision to get the Captivate earlier was easy: I had to stay with AT&T and it easily the best phone they had. And I actually like the phone now that I've gotten a Froyo build and the GPS works. But now that we are out of contract I'm unsure where to go and what phone to get (or to wait).
I know that T-Mobile and Verizon get the best coverage at our house and those are the two carriers I'm considering. As far as Android phones are concerned, if I'm coming from the Captivate, which phone do you think I would be most satisfied with? Droid 2? G2? MyTouch 4G?
Or should I wait for this Nexus S to come out? Having quick updates is huge and as a former iPhone owner, its nice to not have the carriers put their grubby mitts on them.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
nexus one, droid 2 or vibrant if you like the galaxy s series, but thats my opinion
T-Mobile has WiFi calling as well and that's a great asset to have. If you're 100% positive that T-Mobile has the coverage you need you should go with them and get a G2 or myTouch 4G.. the DEFY is nice but it's more mid-range. I would wait for FroYo before getting the Vibrant. Then you have Windows Phone 7 if you're looking at one of those.
See if T-Mobile is offering "4G" speeds in your area. If they are, you might want to grab the myTouch 4G or the G2. The G2 looks awesome IMO.
BTW, I used the GPS on a G2 and it was flawless
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Agraceffa said:
hey guys, first post around here and I have a question for the masses. Currently I'm on AT&T with the Captivate but we are going to have to switch off Ma Bell due to coverage issues at our house (we are going cell-only). My decision to get the Captivate earlier was easy: I had to stay with AT&T and it easily the best phone they had. And I actually like the phone now that I've gotten a Froyo build and the GPS works. But now that we are out of contract I'm unsure where to go and what phone to get (or to wait).
I know that T-Mobile and Verizon get the best coverage at our house and those are the two carriers I'm considering. As far as Android phones are concerned, if I'm coming from the Captivate, which phone do you think I would be most satisfied with? Droid 2? G2? MyTouch 4G?
Or should I wait for this Nexus S to come out? Having quick updates is huge and as a former iPhone owner, its nice to not have the carriers put their grubby mitts on them.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I vote for waiting on the Nexus S and at least see what it's about. If you get a phone and discover the Nexus S is a much better phone, you'll be kicking yourself for the next two years.
T-Mobile -G2
Verizon - Droid 2/ Droid X (depending upon the keyboard want/need. I'd go D2)
Sprint - Evo
I personally love Android, and at this point in time, can't imagine using another smartphone OS.
Get a Microcell
If it is just a coverage issue, get an AT&T Microcell. No contract required, just uses your existing minutes and internet connection. I have one at work due to zero signal...works like a champ!
second the microcell.
call ATT and politely tell them that you plan on leaving because the coverage inside your house is not up to par. when they send you to retention services, tell them that you'd stay if the coverage was better IN YOUR HOUSE and most likely they'll offer you a microcell for free
Sprint ---> EVO
Verizon ---> Droid X or 2 depending on your stance on QWERTY
T-Mobile ---> G2 or HD7 depending on your stance on WP7
AT&T ---> Cry
I like this option to start, I never thought of complaining to AT&T as a first step. Since I have other options, whats the worst that could happen, right? That broadband pipe is going to get some serious traffic . . .
For the other phone, I was thinking Droid X or G2. I love the design of the Cappy and in my opinion, the myTouch 4G and the Vibrant/Fascinate seem to be a step down. Most likely it will be the Droid X or waiting until the Nexus S "issue" is resolved. I'm a little skeptical of the G2 hinge after seeing it in store.
If you go with t mobile you can use your captivate until you figure out what phone you want. (if you unlock it)
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sblees said:
If you go with t mobile you can use your captivate until you figure out what phone you want. (if you unlock it)
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true but no 3g service, right?
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true but no 3g service, right?
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Well that I'm not sure about.
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T-Mobile exclusively uses the AWS 1700/2100 MHz frequency-band. Not compatible with other 3g services in the U.S.
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T-Mobile exclusively uses the AWS 1700/2100 MHz frequency-band. Not compatible with other 3g services in the U.S.
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that's what I thought. Same as using an iPhone on T-mobile. It'll work but you'll just be stuck on Edge like speeds.
Why do my inspire 4g seem slower than my 3g nexus1 on t-mobile network? I get a better experience watching YouTube video on my 3g nexus1. On the inspire its slow to load and I get a lot of error message that pops up during a video. I paid $580 for my n1 so I could leave when I want. I think I have 15 days trial with this cell. I don't want to be trapped in a 2 yr contract and I'm not satisfy .
And what the help is up with this black screen while I'm trying to type? I thought it was just text messages but its happening now
I am not impress with your grammar.
If you're not happy, like you said, you can always return it and go back to the N1. It's a solid phone. As for speeds? Maybe you live in an area where T-Mobile has their "4g" on and AT&T doesn't. (As in, AT&T doesn't have much if any of their backhaul implemented.)
I get around 3Mbps down and 2Mbps up at peak. Videos are smooth and this phone is fast. For me anyway.
As for the black screen...don't know what to tell you. Texting is peachy for me too.
I am very impress with this phone.
I dont know whats up with the texting issue but my speeds vary by location.
Hope you get it figured out.
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Why do my inspire 4g seem slower than my 3g nexus1 on t-mobile network? I get a better experience watching YouTube video on my 3g nexus1. On the inspire its slow to load and I get a lot of error message that pops up during a video. I paid $580 for my n1 so I could leave when I want. I think I have 15 days trial with this cell. I don't want to be trapped in a 2 yr contract and I'm not satisfy .
And what the help is up with this black screen while I'm trying to type? I thought it was just text messages but its happening now
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Are you using Inspire on Tmobile? I believe you can only get EDGE. This phone is for AT&T...
alex4lex said:
I am not impress with your grammar.
If you're not happy, like you said, you can always return it and go back to the N1. It's a solid phone. As for speeds? Maybe you live in an area where T-Mobile has their "4g" on and AT&T doesn't. (As in, AT&T doesn't have much if any of their backhaul implemented.)
I get around 3Mbps down and 2Mbps up at peak. Videos are smooth and this phone is fast. For me anyway.
As for the black screen...don't know what to tell you. Texting is peachy for me too.
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This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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Are you using Inspire on Tmobile? I believe you can only get EDGE. This phone is for AT&T...
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I left T-Mobile to come to at&t for the inspire .
Nope phone is not perfect... well for me it is
this phone was dirt cheap
i have not experienced the black screen while texting... you might want to look into getting a replacement
as far as 3g/4g it is pretty lame we get "4g" in april but i cannot really speak on that since i am on wifi. well hope all goes well for you if not there **** load of android phones coming out
I upgraded from Fuze, definite improvement in hardware there, but even compared to my wife's HTC Aria, the Inspire is a better experience for hardware and software.
However... AT&T where I live (Yolo County, CA outside of Sacramento) does not have 4G yet. I have not achieved the speeds and cell calls can drop because of poor reception in very specific neighborhoods. AT&T did not lie when they marketed this is the 4G phone. The coverage areas suck right now for 4G, that's all. Buyer beware, especially if you don't do your research. Your other problems with the phone may be specific for that phone itself. Get it exchanged for a new one. If AT&T wants to keep your account, they should help you.
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I upgraded from Fuze, definite improvement in hardware there, but even compared to my wife's HTC Aria, the Inspire is a better experience for hardware and software.
However... AT&T where I live (Yolo County, CA outside of Sacramento) does not have 4G yet. I have not achieved the speeds and cell calls can drop because of poor reception in very specific neighborhoods. AT&T did not lie when they marketed this is the 4G phone. The coverage areas suck right now for 4G, that's all. Buyer beware, especially if you don't do your research. Your other problems with the phone may be specific for that phone itself. Get it exchanged for a new one. If AT&T wants to keep your account, they should help you.
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The main reason why I switched from iPhone to Android was all the drop calls & esp when calling another iPhone. Lucky for me, my Inspire has yet to experience any drop calls *Knocks on wood* in the Bay Area.
@OP
I would take the phone back & ask for another one. Maybe you were unlucky & got a lemon.
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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Exchange it. No one else here is seeing this black screen and getting the error messages you're talking about. As for the network speed, T-Mobile's network is just faster than AT&T's in some places right now.
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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The phone is 4G capable as advertised. Just because you have a 4G phone, it doesn't mean that you live in a 4G coverage area. 4G speeds don't just magically appear by themselves.
If you don't like the phone, take it back. Nobody is stopping you.
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Why do my inspire 4g seem slower than my 3g nexus1 on t-mobile network? I get a better experience watching YouTube video on my 3g nexus1. On the inspire its slow to load and I get a lot of error message that pops up during a video. I paid $580 for my n1 so I could leave when I want. I think I have 15 days trial with this cell. I don't want to be trapped in a 2 yr contract and I'm not satisfy .
And what the help is up with this black screen while I'm trying to type? I thought it was just text messages but its happening now
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ATT has changed the inspire firmware so it has slow upload speeds. root fixes it so it will be like the nexus one. right now you are limited to 0.3Mbps upload speed, which sucks.
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The phone is 4G capable as advertised. Just because you have a 4G phone, it doesn't mean that you live in a 4G coverage area. 4G speeds don't just magically appear by themselves.
If you don't like the phone, take it back. Nobody is stopping you.
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This. If you don't like the phone, get rid of it. My guess is, you don't like it because it doesn't support your language... Which by the tone of your posts, is not english
Is anyone else getting tired of the "this phone is not 4G" line? I read the at&t page about their 4G plans and they are VERY CLEAR about what they are doing. No this phone does not have LTE, yes it will have HSPA+ as it gets rolled out. With this phone we are pretty much early adopters of AT&T's network. Those of us that have been early adopters before don't seem to be too worked up, those that clearly have not been early adopters are pretty ticked off it seems.
Do I wish I had faster download speeds? Sure I do, but I knew coming into this that there would be a bit of a delay with that because I READ the AT&T 4G page. Is this the perfect phone...??? Of course not, because we all know the perfect phone has a laser beam built into it and this one clearly does not, other than that glaring weakness I think it is pretty good.
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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Let me chime in here. It's NOT the phone's fault. It definitely IS AT&T's fault. Their "4G" isn't really 4G. It is what they call HSPA+. Pretty much the device is AWESOME, but AT&T's service SUCKS.
Ok as alot in this post has said 4g is not turned on in many areas, the phone is 4g capable, even 3g phone isnt always on 3g it drops to regular edge, 4g simply means that it can connect to there towers at 4g if the tower has the software upgrade. Now for the other misconceptions, 4g what is it well different people have been defining it differently, lte is considered to be 4g while it can achieve speeds up to 100 mb theoretically it does not get that, any of the lte networks that are up are running much much lower then that, hspa+ which is also considered 4g which was done first by tmobile can achieve speed up to 45 mb theoretically. U wont see those speeds for some time its room for expansion is all it is they are not going to max those speeds anytime soon. So att is rolling out hspa+ which is technically 3.5g and calling it there 4g network and also rolling out Lte which both are considered 4g and using them to overlap each other.
Same thing as cable we keep getting upgrades I have over 50mb connection wasnt long ago it was way slower, no matter what they wanna call it, u will keep seeing speed increases as they upgrade to handle the load.
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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So what do you want from us? Don't like it? Return it! Problem solved.
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simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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1. It is marketed as 4G because it supports att's 4th gen network which is rolling out this year and is available in major cities only at the moment. Until then, you will get 3.5G speeds on 850/1900mhz frequencies. Tmobile does NOT use this.
2. Black screen? Dunno what that's all about but I'd either get a video of it for us to see or return it for another one.
3. And this phone is the best thing since sliced bread brotha. Haha. Can you say 3000 in quadrant? Wow, lets see your N1 do that.
it doesnt support lte only hspa+
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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I'm not sure how you got the phone, but AT&T's return policy is 30 Days, not 15. You have a while before you make a decision to return it. If your text box is acting up or whatever, I'd exchange it... that's not a common problem. As for 4G? I think everyone here has said enough about it. It's not the fastest phone... yet. Like I said before, you need the backhaul in place. AT&T is rolling that out, but they haven't said when and where.
Am I Fanboy? No. I have logic and reason to back up why I want to defend this phone's honor. There's a reason for all your complaints (except that black text box issue, get a new phone)
It's a great phone at a great value. How many android phones can you run at stock and have it be this smooth? Camera is wicked fast, display is great, gps is awesome, and for me? Internet is speedy, and will only get faster.
I'm happy with my phone. I'm sorry you aren't. You could return/exchange it. You have options, man.
Inspire 4G>Sliced Bread
Okay so i just left Sprint for Verizon to get the thunderbolt and was royally pissed off lol, but now i'm not. Okay, so i been on the fence contemplating going back to Sprint and decided not to. When i had my EVO (which i still do waiting to sell it), the support it got was amazing, but my 3g on it was sub-par. I live in New York, and i was seriously getting horrid connection. I even thought about all the graphic power the new one is getting, but then i said to myself "half the games in the market don't even use all that power", so isn't it redundant to desire such a powerful phone with so many games work fine on the thunderbolt? I mean, i sound like i'm trying to justify my switch, but just thinking out loud for anyone who feels the same as me. And what up with all the hate on the thunderbolt by Evo users? I thought the Android community was suppose to be together, some of them sound like whining Apple fanbois.
That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
I am not jealous of the new EVO. The reason is two. First I have a moto xoom, so I have a powerful device with a screen big enough to enjoy the power. Second, like you said, is that Sprint is crap. I would have said the opposite a week ago, but I would have been in denial .
The EVO was better than the iPhone 2g/3g/3gs' and Sprint was better than AT&T that I had had for the 3 years prior. As such I was happy with the phone, which was somewhat crippled by the sprint network. The biggest thing I hated about Sprint, was they were INCONSISTENT. Didn't matter if it was peak or off-peak hours everytime I grabbed the phone I had no way of knowing if it would give me an efficient or inefficient experience. In the car I used a Wilson Sleek signal booster which made things like streaming over Pandora or Slacker consistent, but it's a cradle so its not idea for much more than that.
The thunderbird thus far has proven to be a better phone than the old EVO, but more importantly it seems to have hardware that works well on the network. Anyone with an EVO even in a strong 4G area can attest to the 30+ seconds it takes to get a 4G connection, and how it never seemed to come back if the connection in the area was less than idea. The one time so far that my EVO went to 3G, it went back to 4G almost immediately. I live in North Las Vegas, but my part of town has not been the Boonies for 20 years.
In summation. Even if Sprint "does it again" and releases a super friggin awesome phone, as the EVO was, it wont make up for their less than ideal network. Sprint is not bad per se, they just aren't great.
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That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
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Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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Well of course i know that, just bummed as soon as i jumped ship they release this haha. The obvious, of course, is that we will get something similar also, but just wanted to speak my mind for those who feel like me. I focused more on the specs in the original post, but i was also curious why almost every website i got on about the thunderbolt you have some uptight mad Evo user bashing it, quite comical and sad at the same time.
@setite the 4g on sprint was horrid, especially indoors.
I too left Sprint (of 5 plus years) for the TB... I am jealous of the Sprint's new EVO, but not their 2.5 GHz WIMAX.. If hey get their 800MHz frequency up and running with LTE or even move WIMAX there or maybe even WIMAX 2, then I shall return
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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Zerotwistknife7 said:
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
Comment by Richard Yarrell March 19, 2011 at 1:43 am :
This makes the verizon thunderbolt look like a STEP CHILD… Verizon wanted to have a hand me down product they got it. Everyone knows htc doesn’t do business with Verizon never and they got exactly what they wanted last year’s evo but the funny part is our current 10month old htc evo 4g is still better there isn’t even a toggle 4g switch on there device it just keeps runing and too top it off there bootloader is locked another verizon trick. Evo owners on sprint REJOICE we have truly a WINNER in every way our 2011 lineup has all 4g devices and all the newly announced devices are running 2.3.3ginerbread straight out the box not 2.2 froyo like the thunderbolt and all other verizon products… Welcome our new KING OF ANDROID http://www.androidcentral.com/
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I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
i love how it says the bootloader is locked when it isn't
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I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
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verizon needs to get away from samsung i love my fascinate but samsung is sooooo bad with customer service since officially we are still on 2.1 but thanks to the devs i have froyo
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
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LOL wow big ego much? it still took them time to root and unlock their phones too...
I doubt it was anywhere as fast as AndIRC did it, first night=root, second night=unlock bootloader/custom recovery
If that's not a record or something, I'd be suprised...
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Amazingly accurate response.
mi7chy said:
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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+1
I will never go back to Sprint ever after they treated me terribly when I complained about getting 1x speeds in the city of Chicago outdoors in an area marked "best indoor 4g coverage" on their map. With Verizon I get 4g anywhere indoors and don't have to stick my head and arm way out the window to get decent data speeds. And on Sprint the decent data speeds are literally 400kbps. see thread "data speeds, wtf?" in the Evo general forum.
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I'm a longtime sprint drone...since nextel I1000 lol
I'm about ready to make the jump. I love my EVO but the data is very spotty, sometimes decent 5-6MB DL but quite often less than 1/2 meg. I live in a 4G city too.
Price is getting closer too. I have 3 smart devices...
Sprint
130- 2 lines everything data 1500
20- extra line
30- 10 per line for smarty
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180 but I get 25% off the 130 for corp discount
150 = Bottom line plus taxes
Red
with my corp discount 18%~
110 2 lines talk/text 1400
10 3rd line
72 3 x24 data packs
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192 + taxes
I'm very close to jumping ship.
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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Yes it is. Just hope we don't have no android civil war ,because it seems that way with certain people.
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We all know that the Thunderbolt can talk and surf over 3G and 4G.. why doesnt Verizon promote this? This seems like it'd be a cool selling point since ATT constantly uses this as a knock against VZ's network.
Does talk and surf not work in all markets? Does Verizon not want to confuse owners of other phones? I cant see why they dont advertise this more..
i know right i rub it in peoples faces lol
It isn't quite up to Verizon standards. At least that was what was on the initial info material for the Thunderbolt. Seems to work fine the couple times I've tried it.
There have been creative differences on how to present the "Can you hear me now? Good.. Oh, and I just got your e-mail" tv commercials.
Plus only having 1 phone that can do it ATM might be a little premature gloating for the entire network.. Although yes I do it.
It would also advertise to most folks that aren't aware (the non-techies) that talk & data is not available on every other phone... It's a fine line. It's as if Verizon would admit that the lack of this feature is a problem that only 1 phone could resolve.
I'm guessing the marketing weenies took a hard look at this
just my $.02
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It's as if Verizon would admit that the lack of this feature is a problem that only 1 phone could resolve.
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Technically that's the case because of the way the radios are used. The Thunderbolt could be the only one for a while capable of simultaneous voice & data over 3G.
I don't know many people who see that as a must have feature. Including friends who have ATT. Never seen anyone use it.
because AT&T iDouches need something to keep them feeling like they have the better phone/network..
verizon's just bein nice..and how would it look if they came along after all this time and advertised the one phone in the entire lineup that could do it?
There really isn't any point. LTE isn't large enough, only one phone out (as of now). And really how many times would you need to use it?
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There really isn't any point. LTE isn't large enough, only one phone out (as of now). And really how many times would you need to use it?
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it works over 3g too dude
I use it at least once a day. Doesn't the Charge do it also? If so thats two phones and I believe all the future LTE phones will be able to do it.
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I use it at least once a day. Doesn't the Charge do it also? If so thats two phones and I believe all the future LTE phones will be able to do it.
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It should do it when on LTE or Wifi but not necessarily 3G like the Thunderbolt. My understanding is that with the cpu and radio chips being made by Qualcomm, it was easier to get the voice and data working over 3G in addition to the other two.
Yeah I was over in one of the Charge forums and they were talking about how they could not talk and surf at the same time over 3G. The TBolt is definitely still unique in this regard.
As to why they don't push the issue in advertising, I agree that with only one device being able to do it over 3G, it's a little premature. Plus, they are trying to push 4G LTE and going back and touting 3G simultaneous data and voice would be taking a step back in some ways(especially when it's only one device).
When there are more LTE devices available I would expect to hear more about it's advantages, including voice+data.
this is a little bit off topic, is it just me or it seems to that there are no dual core phones with lte coming out? seem like the only one was the bionic and that got trashed
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I don't know many people who see that as a must have feature. Including friends who have ATT. Never seen anyone use it.
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I always felt this was a useless feature too that att kept gloating about to make the pompous Iphone owners feel superior with their phones. I always would run into an iPhone user who would constantly compare his phone saying "can your phone do this.. can your phone do that".
I agree Verizon should hammer back that the tbolt can do that plus other things the iPhone can't. I think its worth while for Verizon to advertise who is superior now regardless if it is a useless feature.
you can talk and surf at the same time on the tbolt? haha i honestly did not know that. thanks for the tip!
I use it everyday many times... On conference calls, sending/receiving emails, looking things up, send maps links, etc. My crew calls for info, I can pull it up, countless things.
And yes, it works on both 4G and 3G. Always.
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I think AT&T tried to make it a bigger deal than it actually was.
I still have yet to use voice and data at the same time, even going back to my iPhone days.
They'll tout it once it becomes more common for the phones that Verizon has available. Since only one can do it now, they'd have to specifically focus on the Thunderbolt, and would have to say ONLY the Thunderbolt has that capability.
I too never saw the big deal of chatting on the phone and surfing the web at the same time, sure it's a cool feature, but for me personally I have the phone to my ear when I'm talking, and surfing would only be a distraction. I liked AT&T when I had them, but I've always hated the iPhone and detested the iPhone users that go out of their way to point out what it can do. Here's something for them, can it do 4G LTE? Yeah, didn't think so. Dual LED flash? Far more customization? No dice!
being able to take a phone call and use the navi is a huge plus... also looking up something on the web while on the phone is a great feature
For the last 12 years, I have been a Sprint customer. I haven't had any serious issues with them until they started rolling out the tower updates to LTE. Since then, I have not been about to get satellite locks or use their web network without becoming absolutely frustrated. After a bit of web searching, I decided it was time to make the move to Verizon, since I need the web, on the road, for work. I made the choice of the Galaxy S III. It's a great looking phone and the specs speak for themselves. But, I got terrible service in and around my home. Every phone call in my house was breaking up and dropping. I figured it must be Verizon because this phone was a step up from my Sprint Epic 4G touch and even from the same manufacturer. I made calls to customer service and they wrote up a ticket to check service in my area. My nextdoor neighbor came home with his new iPhone (I will never buy an iPhone or any mac product) and showed me that he had almost full bars. I asked him to come to my house and see if he still had great service. No change in or around my home. This caused me to think there was something faulty with my device. I immediately went to the Verizon store with my device for troubleshooting. I told the service rep what had happened and that I wanted to get my phone tested and possibly get a replacement. She told me that the problems I was experiencing were common with Samsung phones because they have weak antennas. She mentioned that the best phones for reception are going to be the iPhones and the Motorolas. I believe this to be true because in my pre-smartphone days, I had a sanyo flip phone and my work partner had the latest samsung doohicky that looked sweet but, where he would have little to no service, I would have full bars. Until I got my first smartphone, I stuck with sanyo phones from Sprint and never had any issues.
Now the lineup of Verizon phones is pretty much last year's model for the top of the liners. So, I've gone back to Sprint until the Razor Maxx HD arrives. It looks to be a beast of a phone that surpasses the galaxy S III and is sure to have a good antenna/radio to go along with it. I just hope it doesn't take very long.
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And you made this thread why? Are you asking something of the community? If not, this thread should be deleted
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I don't think the thread should be deleted (but that's just me). I didn't know Samsung phones had this issue and its always good to know general info. Thanks to the OP for it. Next time an issue like this happens with me or any of my friends and if they have a Samsung phone, I would know at least one more variable to take into consideration.
I agree 100%, my service is terrible. My og Droid always had great reception, this phone (although no calls dropped) Fluctuates a lot. I love this phone though, and have no intentions of changing. I just wish it was a bit better is all
I don't see how the RARZ Maxx surpasses the S3. It is a nice phone but doesn't bring anything new to the table that the S3 doesn't already have except the large battery but, battery is not an issue with the S3 anyway.
I'm on Sprint and thinking about switching to Verizon so this is helpful to think about. I might not have considered a Motorola but now I think I'll at least give them a closer look.
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Not sure of the issues or rumors about their radio or antenna, but at least my Galaxy S III has been connecting as well as my old feature phones - by which I mean, solidly.
4G is sometimes less available than I want - e.g., there's a space of 3 blocks nearby where it's dead (odd) - but that's the only issue.
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motorola phones are well known for getting exceptional reception.
if you live in an area where the signal strength is poor, i can understand when people end up hating certain phones.
in my case, i have never had any issues with the gs3 when it comes to reception.
BEFORE PEOPLE START BASHING TO OP, HE/SHE ISN'T SAYING THE GS3 IS A BAD PHONE FOR ITS HARDWARE (except the antenna). Yes, it is a beast of a phone.
But at the end of the day, it's still a phone and if you can't send/receive phone calls.. well, it should be replaced.
A relationship without trust is like a cell phone without service ... all you do is play games
I am a diehard Motorola guy but I went ahead and tried the SGS3. What the OP is stating is true, the Samsung radio sucks in comparison to Motorola. I am now fortunate enough to have strong enough Verizon signal at my house so I was able to keep my SGS3. Now I get 3 bars at home when with my Motorola DroidX was always full. I looked at the Droid RAZR MAXX hard and heavy, kept trying to talk myself into it, but ... it just didn't feel right in my hand. I am satisfied with my SGS3 but I still hope Motorola comes out with something good for my next upgrade.
I agree, I think this post is fine for the Verizon Galaxy S III General section of the forum!
Future modem updates will surely remedy the issue. It was the same way with the Fascinate, crappy until the radio got a couple updates.
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I get good reception at my house with the S3, but my territory at work is 920ish square miles of rural area. I've noticed areas where I had 3G before switching to Sprint 3 years ago when I had a Motorola phone I do not now that I'm back with Verizon. If anything, I would have thought in the 3 years it would have improved. Like the OP, I believe it to be the phone, not the service as other guys at work don't have that problem and don't have skips when streaming music like I do on the same roads.
I'm also waiting for the Razr HD Maxx to release. Our local retail agent has their demo already so they suspect it to be within a month or so. I'm eBaying this S3 as soon as it is released since I'm outside my window to return it.
In the meantime, hopefully the latest OTA helps reception.
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Future modem updates will surely remedy the issue. It was the same way with the Fascinate, crappy until the radio got a couple updates.<br />
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Hope you're right. Sometimes I wanna go back to my rezound.
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I have the same problem. Switched from Sprint to Verizon. GSIII. Unless the signal is nearly full strength, calls are unusable and data is inconsistent, and texts won't send. It's definitely the phone's fault, not the network.
Might be good for some folks here to call Verizon and submit a complaint, etc. When I called about a networking issue a couple months back, they told me a wi-fi and other reception/signal related issues were planned for an October update (which they called the second update from Samsung, so that seems to mesh with our getting the current OTA in September), but maybe those plans or the update contents have changed.
And, since the OTA, they can more easily diagnose issues with your phone remotely .
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Am I the only one that's satisfied with the GS3's signal strength? I came from a droid incredible and now I seem to have better signal across the board.
I've noticed that the phone manages signal poorly rather than the radios themselves being poor.
Example: If I use phone info and manually set my phone to 4g only or LTE w/ CDMA I will lock onto 4g and have a solid signal. If I rely on the default setting (LTE/EVDO/CDMA) to manage networks automatically I will end up with a weak 3g signal (with full data drops) despite medium/strong 4g being available.
Hopefully the future OTAs will take care of the network selection logic.
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Am I the only one that's satisfied with the GS3's signal strength? I came from a droid incredible and now I seem to have better signal across the board.
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One more fully satisfied customer here.
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When I compare this phone to a Razr Maxx or my old Droid X2, the difference in dbm is about -5. I live in an area with good coverage so I really haven't had any issues. What this phone SUCKS at is sticking with 4g and the hand off from 4g to 3g. It switches to 3g too quickly...should hold on to 4g. When it switches there's a pretty good lag during the switch so you lose data briefly.
The modem update gave me an additional 1-2 bars in my house at times (Still fluctuations, but it would anyhow here). I can't say it's any worse than my Droid Inc.
As for Verizon having a "poor phone choice"... Meh. It goes in cycles. Sometimes they have all the good phones, sometimes AT&T does. It's all variant as to when you are looking to buy.
lets be honest here. No company is 100% stable in all areas. Theres always a tradeoff, and as our lives change, as well as our residences, places of work, and hangouts, our choice of company may change to meet our new needs. In my area Verizon meets my needs best, but my neighbor might have a different story.
I think its unfair to judge a carrier in absolutes unless you're talking about a very densely populated area like a major city. If you set foot in the middle of manhattan and have 1 bar, I think that's an appropriate time to speak in absolutes.
And on the topic of smartphones, I think its an exercise in futility. My S3 is the best phone I've ever owned, despite the small glitches and imperfections. Did I buy it because it was the best phone out there? Absolutely. Did I know at the time of purchase it could be obsolete by the time I reached my car? I counted on it. Am I boring you all by answering my own rhetorical questions? Undoubtedly.
As long as you're happy with your phone and it meets your needs, good for you. If you're unhappy do something about it. But be warned, if you spend time comparing your phone to another one already out or soon to come out, you'll almost never feel good with the results.