Why do my inspire 4g seem slower than my 3g nexus1 on t-mobile network? I get a better experience watching YouTube video on my 3g nexus1. On the inspire its slow to load and I get a lot of error message that pops up during a video. I paid $580 for my n1 so I could leave when I want. I think I have 15 days trial with this cell. I don't want to be trapped in a 2 yr contract and I'm not satisfy .
And what the help is up with this black screen while I'm trying to type? I thought it was just text messages but its happening now
I am not impress with your grammar.
If you're not happy, like you said, you can always return it and go back to the N1. It's a solid phone. As for speeds? Maybe you live in an area where T-Mobile has their "4g" on and AT&T doesn't. (As in, AT&T doesn't have much if any of their backhaul implemented.)
I get around 3Mbps down and 2Mbps up at peak. Videos are smooth and this phone is fast. For me anyway.
As for the black screen...don't know what to tell you. Texting is peachy for me too.
I am very impress with this phone.
I dont know whats up with the texting issue but my speeds vary by location.
Hope you get it figured out.
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Why do my inspire 4g seem slower than my 3g nexus1 on t-mobile network? I get a better experience watching YouTube video on my 3g nexus1. On the inspire its slow to load and I get a lot of error message that pops up during a video. I paid $580 for my n1 so I could leave when I want. I think I have 15 days trial with this cell. I don't want to be trapped in a 2 yr contract and I'm not satisfy .
And what the help is up with this black screen while I'm trying to type? I thought it was just text messages but its happening now
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Are you using Inspire on Tmobile? I believe you can only get EDGE. This phone is for AT&T...
alex4lex said:
I am not impress with your grammar.
If you're not happy, like you said, you can always return it and go back to the N1. It's a solid phone. As for speeds? Maybe you live in an area where T-Mobile has their "4g" on and AT&T doesn't. (As in, AT&T doesn't have much if any of their backhaul implemented.)
I get around 3Mbps down and 2Mbps up at peak. Videos are smooth and this phone is fast. For me anyway.
As for the black screen...don't know what to tell you. Texting is peachy for me too.
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This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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Are you using Inspire on Tmobile? I believe you can only get EDGE. This phone is for AT&T...
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I left T-Mobile to come to at&t for the inspire .
Nope phone is not perfect... well for me it is
this phone was dirt cheap
i have not experienced the black screen while texting... you might want to look into getting a replacement
as far as 3g/4g it is pretty lame we get "4g" in april but i cannot really speak on that since i am on wifi. well hope all goes well for you if not there **** load of android phones coming out
I upgraded from Fuze, definite improvement in hardware there, but even compared to my wife's HTC Aria, the Inspire is a better experience for hardware and software.
However... AT&T where I live (Yolo County, CA outside of Sacramento) does not have 4G yet. I have not achieved the speeds and cell calls can drop because of poor reception in very specific neighborhoods. AT&T did not lie when they marketed this is the 4G phone. The coverage areas suck right now for 4G, that's all. Buyer beware, especially if you don't do your research. Your other problems with the phone may be specific for that phone itself. Get it exchanged for a new one. If AT&T wants to keep your account, they should help you.
Papa Luigi said:
I upgraded from Fuze, definite improvement in hardware there, but even compared to my wife's HTC Aria, the Inspire is a better experience for hardware and software.
However... AT&T where I live (Yolo County, CA outside of Sacramento) does not have 4G yet. I have not achieved the speeds and cell calls can drop because of poor reception in very specific neighborhoods. AT&T did not lie when they marketed this is the 4G phone. The coverage areas suck right now for 4G, that's all. Buyer beware, especially if you don't do your research. Your other problems with the phone may be specific for that phone itself. Get it exchanged for a new one. If AT&T wants to keep your account, they should help you.
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The main reason why I switched from iPhone to Android was all the drop calls & esp when calling another iPhone. Lucky for me, my Inspire has yet to experience any drop calls *Knocks on wood* in the Bay Area.
@OP
I would take the phone back & ask for another one. Maybe you were unlucky & got a lemon.
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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Exchange it. No one else here is seeing this black screen and getting the error messages you're talking about. As for the network speed, T-Mobile's network is just faster than AT&T's in some places right now.
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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The phone is 4G capable as advertised. Just because you have a 4G phone, it doesn't mean that you live in a 4G coverage area. 4G speeds don't just magically appear by themselves.
If you don't like the phone, take it back. Nobody is stopping you.
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Why do my inspire 4g seem slower than my 3g nexus1 on t-mobile network? I get a better experience watching YouTube video on my 3g nexus1. On the inspire its slow to load and I get a lot of error message that pops up during a video. I paid $580 for my n1 so I could leave when I want. I think I have 15 days trial with this cell. I don't want to be trapped in a 2 yr contract and I'm not satisfy .
And what the help is up with this black screen while I'm trying to type? I thought it was just text messages but its happening now
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ATT has changed the inspire firmware so it has slow upload speeds. root fixes it so it will be like the nexus one. right now you are limited to 0.3Mbps upload speed, which sucks.
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The phone is 4G capable as advertised. Just because you have a 4G phone, it doesn't mean that you live in a 4G coverage area. 4G speeds don't just magically appear by themselves.
If you don't like the phone, take it back. Nobody is stopping you.
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This. If you don't like the phone, get rid of it. My guess is, you don't like it because it doesn't support your language... Which by the tone of your posts, is not english
Is anyone else getting tired of the "this phone is not 4G" line? I read the at&t page about their 4G plans and they are VERY CLEAR about what they are doing. No this phone does not have LTE, yes it will have HSPA+ as it gets rolled out. With this phone we are pretty much early adopters of AT&T's network. Those of us that have been early adopters before don't seem to be too worked up, those that clearly have not been early adopters are pretty ticked off it seems.
Do I wish I had faster download speeds? Sure I do, but I knew coming into this that there would be a bit of a delay with that because I READ the AT&T 4G page. Is this the perfect phone...??? Of course not, because we all know the perfect phone has a laser beam built into it and this one clearly does not, other than that glaring weakness I think it is pretty good.
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This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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Let me chime in here. It's NOT the phone's fault. It definitely IS AT&T's fault. Their "4G" isn't really 4G. It is what they call HSPA+. Pretty much the device is AWESOME, but AT&T's service SUCKS.
Ok as alot in this post has said 4g is not turned on in many areas, the phone is 4g capable, even 3g phone isnt always on 3g it drops to regular edge, 4g simply means that it can connect to there towers at 4g if the tower has the software upgrade. Now for the other misconceptions, 4g what is it well different people have been defining it differently, lte is considered to be 4g while it can achieve speeds up to 100 mb theoretically it does not get that, any of the lte networks that are up are running much much lower then that, hspa+ which is also considered 4g which was done first by tmobile can achieve speed up to 45 mb theoretically. U wont see those speeds for some time its room for expansion is all it is they are not going to max those speeds anytime soon. So att is rolling out hspa+ which is technically 3.5g and calling it there 4g network and also rolling out Lte which both are considered 4g and using them to overlap each other.
Same thing as cable we keep getting upgrades I have over 50mb connection wasnt long ago it was way slower, no matter what they wanna call it, u will keep seeing speed increases as they upgrade to handle the load.
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This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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So what do you want from us? Don't like it? Return it! Problem solved.
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simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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1. It is marketed as 4G because it supports att's 4th gen network which is rolling out this year and is available in major cities only at the moment. Until then, you will get 3.5G speeds on 850/1900mhz frequencies. Tmobile does NOT use this.
2. Black screen? Dunno what that's all about but I'd either get a video of it for us to see or return it for another one.
3. And this phone is the best thing since sliced bread brotha. Haha. Can you say 3000 in quadrant? Wow, lets see your N1 do that.
it doesnt support lte only hspa+
simonti said:
This is not English class. You sound like a fan boy. I read many post with grammatical errors and if I could reply with a helpful comment I will.
The phone is not perfect so stop acting like it is the best thing since slice bread.
The phone was marketed as at&t first 4g phone. Is it 4g? Not.
No cell phone is perfect but having slow 4g and black screen popping up while typing in landscape mode is really annoying. If these issue cannot be resolve then I would leave when I'm ready to
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I'm not sure how you got the phone, but AT&T's return policy is 30 Days, not 15. You have a while before you make a decision to return it. If your text box is acting up or whatever, I'd exchange it... that's not a common problem. As for 4G? I think everyone here has said enough about it. It's not the fastest phone... yet. Like I said before, you need the backhaul in place. AT&T is rolling that out, but they haven't said when and where.
Am I Fanboy? No. I have logic and reason to back up why I want to defend this phone's honor. There's a reason for all your complaints (except that black text box issue, get a new phone)
It's a great phone at a great value. How many android phones can you run at stock and have it be this smooth? Camera is wicked fast, display is great, gps is awesome, and for me? Internet is speedy, and will only get faster.
I'm happy with my phone. I'm sorry you aren't. You could return/exchange it. You have options, man.
Inspire 4G>Sliced Bread
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I stopped by a corp store on Monday and compared speeds of the Inspire to my Captivate. After getting same speeds on both phones I spoke to the store manager that assured me 4G would be operational the following day. I stopped by again today and ran speed test on both devices. The Captivate actually had slightly faster speeds at 2.77 up and .37 down while the Inspire did 2.61 down and same(.37) up. When I asked CS rep about 4G today, I was told that 4G will not be implemented until May. What BS! They are advertising 4G everywhere as if it is running now. How many of you are getting 4G speeds? Anyone hear anything different regarding time frame?
I am strongly considering the Inspire and am looking for a few good reasons to purchase it! Aside from no 4G speeds until May, I have read about, crappy speaker, choppy video playback, poor call quality, crappy camera, and terrible battery life. I have owned the Aria and I gotta say, some of it sounds familiar. Any input will be appreciated.
i was told they're start rolling out 4G in march but i guess it might depend on your area, i'm in chicago.
edit: my speaker is fine, louder then my iphone, excellent call quality, camera is fine, only thing i noticed is when sending a mms, it compresses it too much. batter life seems fine, i've been using it more then my phone (setting it up and playing with it) and its comparable considering the huge screen over a iphone.
http://www.att.com/network/?
Click on the "coverage" button on the bottom, that should show you where the 4G coverage is.
that explicitly says 4G not represented in that map in fine print
where are you in the US?
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where are you in the US?
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North Florida. Jacksonville
yeah, if you mouse over your area, there is no popup for 4g. Greater DFW has it, and if you mouse over it, you can then see a detailed 4g map.
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yeah, if you mouse over your area, there is no popup for 4g. Greater DFW has it, and if you mouse over it, you can then see a detailed 4g map.
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Being in DFW has its advantages.
Not many, but enough.
Thanks for the responses. I do see that there is no 4G coverage for my area listed on the map.
I guess I just have a problem being told by a store rep on Monday, that there would be 4G coverage, in my area, on Tuesday. I guess they are kept informed about as much as we are, or are just saying whatever customer wants to hear in order to sell a phone??? 4G was MY primary reason to upgrade phones now as opposed to later.
Oh well, I am glad I didn't grab the Inspire right away. I did that with the Captivate and well................... Actually, I have no issues with the Captivate after having it replaced with a new unit.
The FCC should launch an investigation into AT&Ts deceptive advertising. They are advertising a 4g network that doesn't exist for the most part.
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yeah, if you mouse over your area, there is no popup for 4g. Greater DFW has it, and if you mouse over it, you can then see a detailed 4g map.
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Have you ran any speed tests in a supposed 4g area? What kind of speeds are you getting if you have?
simulatordos said:
The FCC should launch an investigation into AT&Ts deceptive advertising. They are advertising a 4g network that doesn't exist for the most part.
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where is verizon when you need them? this BS about backhaul not implemented yet! if backhaul is not implemented yet, then dont call it hspa+/4G! cus you dont have hspa+/4G yet!
that is like saying we're the first in the world to have 5G!!!!! then telling people when we upgraded our networks! haha
btw: i'm in bayarea, CA which att map shows it DOES have hspa+/4g coverage, but my speed is the same! never over 3mb! i'm on rooted phone with attn1 rom. maybe i get higher speed with stock rom?
You won't get true 4G until they give out the 4G sim cards. I live south of Dallas and the most i've gotten is 4.3 down and 1.39 up.
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I got a new 4G SIM card on Sunday
No 4G here...I was getting faster speeds on my nexus one
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klquicksall said:
You won't get true 4G until they give out the 4G sim cards. I live south of Dallas and the most i've gotten is 4.3 down and 1.39 up.
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The 4G sims are to be compatible with LTE. They have nothing to do with data speeds on hspa+. You can use your old sim and it won't make a difference. They have not "flipped the switch" on it yet in most areas so we should see differences soon.
I got a new sim card as well when I purchased mines on launch day but it says 3g on it. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Inspire 4G isn't a true "4G" phone. I kind of knew this going in. It doesn't have LTE hardware (which is where everything is going). It has software tweaks that enables HDSPA+ which gives 4G speeds, but not real 4G.
I have to admit that my HSUPA enabled Captivate was faster in both DL and UP but the Inspire isn't bad and has a more consistent connection. It's also a much better phone overall but that's another story.
Today the Oaklawn Dallas AT&T store manager told me that they were not going to "flip the national hspa+ switch" for a month and a half. There is testing in some markets but not Dallas, the AT&T headquarters city. Per an internal email he showed me, the new SIM card is necessary for LTE. It also said 4g data must be enabled on the "user account configuration". My Aria data is configured for my old Blackberry and works fine so I question this. BTW, at the store my geeked out Aria (thanks attn1) had almost double the download speed of the demo Inspire. The response: speed tests are unreliabe, haha!
this is just thought but look for speed increase with the release of the atrix. this is obviously going to be there flagship phone for 4g. there has been no advertisement whatsoever for the inspire. I think for some reason that htc has a exclusive deal with these carriers to be the first 4g phone. Att has been advertising the atrix since January starting with that teaser and when on their website the atrix was on their main page with not even the mention of the inspire. Maybe they will turn hspa+ on once atrix is released tuesday. I wouldnt be surprised if the fooled the atrix people too. Ill keep the inspire but i do think its pretty cheap releasing phones before the network is ready.
ATT has done this over and over. First capped the max data plan. Now they rename their network to 4G and sell phones and cant even max out their network speed. I mean I wonder why they dont get in trouble for this kinda crap. Sprint released evo 4g with a bang with wimax ready to go, and AT&T cant even launch their fake 4g right.
They should be sued for faking the H+ symbol on top, but I dont sue people unless my life depends on it. I am just going to return this phone if thunderbolt comes out before my 30 days are up.
Why show h+ symbol when the network settings show you are only connected to HSDPA not HSDPA+. come out and say when you fake 4g network will be ready. Their graph says I have 4G all over my area up to like 60 miles, yet my crappy hacked captivate was getting the same speed as inspire plus 10 times better upload speeds. I get around 150kb upload speed.
Okay so i just left Sprint for Verizon to get the thunderbolt and was royally pissed off lol, but now i'm not. Okay, so i been on the fence contemplating going back to Sprint and decided not to. When i had my EVO (which i still do waiting to sell it), the support it got was amazing, but my 3g on it was sub-par. I live in New York, and i was seriously getting horrid connection. I even thought about all the graphic power the new one is getting, but then i said to myself "half the games in the market don't even use all that power", so isn't it redundant to desire such a powerful phone with so many games work fine on the thunderbolt? I mean, i sound like i'm trying to justify my switch, but just thinking out loud for anyone who feels the same as me. And what up with all the hate on the thunderbolt by Evo users? I thought the Android community was suppose to be together, some of them sound like whining Apple fanbois.
That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
I am not jealous of the new EVO. The reason is two. First I have a moto xoom, so I have a powerful device with a screen big enough to enjoy the power. Second, like you said, is that Sprint is crap. I would have said the opposite a week ago, but I would have been in denial .
The EVO was better than the iPhone 2g/3g/3gs' and Sprint was better than AT&T that I had had for the 3 years prior. As such I was happy with the phone, which was somewhat crippled by the sprint network. The biggest thing I hated about Sprint, was they were INCONSISTENT. Didn't matter if it was peak or off-peak hours everytime I grabbed the phone I had no way of knowing if it would give me an efficient or inefficient experience. In the car I used a Wilson Sleek signal booster which made things like streaming over Pandora or Slacker consistent, but it's a cradle so its not idea for much more than that.
The thunderbird thus far has proven to be a better phone than the old EVO, but more importantly it seems to have hardware that works well on the network. Anyone with an EVO even in a strong 4G area can attest to the 30+ seconds it takes to get a 4G connection, and how it never seemed to come back if the connection in the area was less than idea. The one time so far that my EVO went to 3G, it went back to 4G almost immediately. I live in North Las Vegas, but my part of town has not been the Boonies for 20 years.
In summation. Even if Sprint "does it again" and releases a super friggin awesome phone, as the EVO was, it wont make up for their less than ideal network. Sprint is not bad per se, they just aren't great.
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That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
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Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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Well of course i know that, just bummed as soon as i jumped ship they release this haha. The obvious, of course, is that we will get something similar also, but just wanted to speak my mind for those who feel like me. I focused more on the specs in the original post, but i was also curious why almost every website i got on about the thunderbolt you have some uptight mad Evo user bashing it, quite comical and sad at the same time.
@setite the 4g on sprint was horrid, especially indoors.
I too left Sprint (of 5 plus years) for the TB... I am jealous of the Sprint's new EVO, but not their 2.5 GHz WIMAX.. If hey get their 800MHz frequency up and running with LTE or even move WIMAX there or maybe even WIMAX 2, then I shall return
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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Zerotwistknife7 said:
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
Comment by Richard Yarrell March 19, 2011 at 1:43 am :
This makes the verizon thunderbolt look like a STEP CHILD… Verizon wanted to have a hand me down product they got it. Everyone knows htc doesn’t do business with Verizon never and they got exactly what they wanted last year’s evo but the funny part is our current 10month old htc evo 4g is still better there isn’t even a toggle 4g switch on there device it just keeps runing and too top it off there bootloader is locked another verizon trick. Evo owners on sprint REJOICE we have truly a WINNER in every way our 2011 lineup has all 4g devices and all the newly announced devices are running 2.3.3ginerbread straight out the box not 2.2 froyo like the thunderbolt and all other verizon products… Welcome our new KING OF ANDROID http://www.androidcentral.com/
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I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
i love how it says the bootloader is locked when it isn't
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I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
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verizon needs to get away from samsung i love my fascinate but samsung is sooooo bad with customer service since officially we are still on 2.1 but thanks to the devs i have froyo
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
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LOL wow big ego much? it still took them time to root and unlock their phones too...
I doubt it was anywhere as fast as AndIRC did it, first night=root, second night=unlock bootloader/custom recovery
If that's not a record or something, I'd be suprised...
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Amazingly accurate response.
mi7chy said:
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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+1
I will never go back to Sprint ever after they treated me terribly when I complained about getting 1x speeds in the city of Chicago outdoors in an area marked "best indoor 4g coverage" on their map. With Verizon I get 4g anywhere indoors and don't have to stick my head and arm way out the window to get decent data speeds. And on Sprint the decent data speeds are literally 400kbps. see thread "data speeds, wtf?" in the Evo general forum.
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I'm a longtime sprint drone...since nextel I1000 lol
I'm about ready to make the jump. I love my EVO but the data is very spotty, sometimes decent 5-6MB DL but quite often less than 1/2 meg. I live in a 4G city too.
Price is getting closer too. I have 3 smart devices...
Sprint
130- 2 lines everything data 1500
20- extra line
30- 10 per line for smarty
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180 but I get 25% off the 130 for corp discount
150 = Bottom line plus taxes
Red
with my corp discount 18%~
110 2 lines talk/text 1400
10 3rd line
72 3 x24 data packs
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192 + taxes
I'm very close to jumping ship.
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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Yes it is. Just hope we don't have no android civil war ,because it seems that way with certain people.
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I have only ever seen it say 2g or 4g. I don't have the best coverage so I didn't think much of it, but a friend I'm Chicago is reporting the same issue.
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Same here. TMobile has to figure this out. My brother's G2 goes from 3G to H.
Mine goes from 2G to 4G.
Make it a standard as to what shows up on the screen. My understanding it even when it says 4G, you may be in 3G. Only way to know is go into network settings or run a speed test.
Kind of stupid in my opinion.
Yeah, it's not a big deal really, just annoying.
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the exact reason given to me by tmobile is that our phones only register gsm(2g) and wdcma(3G and 4G both fall under this on tmobile) so without really checking at anytime 4g could be 3g its fast either way but annoying none the less
Same here...
So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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From what I understand, if you go to Settings > About Phone > Status > Mobile Network Type.
If it says UMTS, then your on 3G
If it says HSDPA or HSPA or HSPA+ then your on 4G.
I could be wrong, when Im out and about driving, I can run a speed test and hit 10-12 Mbps and the settings will still read as UMTS even though that appears to be 4G speeds.
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So the phone just doesn't ever display 3g? When I'm on the 3g network it will show 4g? Sounds a little bit like false advertising to me. I really don't care too much, but if I am getting less than 1mb down and the phone claims to be on 4g it's kinda bs.
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Thats exactly what im going through now. My phone right now for example shows "4G" in the status bar, but Settings/About Phone shows "UMTS" doing a speed test right now, my speeds are Download-0.53 Mbps Upload 0.41
I agree this is BS.
Tried calling TMobile to explain how the coverage map for my area says 100% complete 4G coverage but my speeds are slow as ****. Tried complaining so I can get out my contract and go to Sprint but they say as long as voice calling works slow data speeds dont permit to break contract.
But TMobile and there whole 4G compain definetly is false advertising.
ive gotten 3 or 4 different answers from various reps at tmobile but there all terrible i get fast enough service all around me even edge runs well enough but i wish they would show 3g when its 3g they act like they have amazing 4g coverage but all the new 4g phones do this at least i know the sidekick 4g does and correct me if im wrong but the g2 does as well its just a marketing scam
Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed
Ummmmm oops....
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Helluva thing to forget. If it's true.
I hope they do!!!
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Personally, I think they need to do with the G2x like they did with the ipad... stop all manufacturing of the item, until all ends and malfunctions are corrected.
including software & hardware. They're just sending stuff out, and in the end sticking it to the consumer by giving them less than quality standard work for the same amount of money they would expect to receive for something put together and functioning "correctly"
(p.s. before i get the "apple made the ipad" bull, LG created the screens, hence the same "bleeding" "light leaks" in the new ipad 2, also Samsung took over when they halted the production of LG screens)
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Hey i work for t-mobile and have the G2x. I hosted an event for the launch of the phone and had my LG rep there. She explained that LG actually forgot to put the 3G indicator on the phone. LG is supposed to be putting out a software update for that as well as the terrible battery life on their website very soon. Lets keep our fingers crossed
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Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.
I think that might be going a little too far, but I haven't had too many major issues thus far. Just little annoying things that should be fixed with updates.
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I have an Evo and on the stock Sense ROM, the phone will display 3G even on 1x (the CDMA equivalent of EDGE). If I hop to CyanogenMod or any Sense ROM ported from another HTC phone, it'll show 1x when I roam/send a text. Also Sense ROMs have like 6 signal bars.
It's all about what the carrier wants. Hell, they could make it say 4G all the time if they want. It's weird though that they show 2G and not 3G.
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Well this is a lie they didnt forget anything LOL.
Look at the G2 for example which is made by HTC. It will show 2G/E or H. You will never see 3G symbol on the G2. Unless you install one of those custom roms where then the dev make the phone switch between H and 4G / 3G depending on data traffic.
Well I had bad 4G speeds in my part of town for years I finally gave up on tmobile today. Sold my G2x on craigslist and picked up a Nexus S 4G with Sprint.
I now get atleast 10 Mbps on avarage now. Proof is in the signature.
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You also won't get any indication that you're on hspa+, either. Just sayin', it goes both ways. You're losing something no matter what.
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I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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I have to put my two cents in on speeds.
I started (my smarty phone odyssey) on Metropcs in Feb....most speed test ever showed was like 1.6mbps...once. Mostly at 1.4-1.5. I was very unhappy with that. Between these speeds, battery issues, no support (from Samsung), I had enuff and went to Sprint. I saw around1.0 Mbps in the beginning. When I complained, they made an adjustment on their end amd it got worse! My average was .65 up and down. Then I went back to Metro. Seems they are suddenly having speed issues. Couldn't get more than about .80, with the same other issues as before. So I've purchased the G2x.
Got two yesterday!!
Both have bleed. Doesn't bother me as it is though. Just noticeable when screen is black. It IS bs, but not a dealbreaker, if it doesn't get worse.
I see people talking about speeds of 8 and 9Mbps and I say I'd be happy with a third of that.
Personally I don't think speedtest is accurate. But I never see that discussed.
T Mobile is supposed to activate these tomorrow. I'll post my speeds. If I get anything above 4.0, I'll be in heaven.
I have looked at youtube videos via wifi and am in awe of this device. Really smooth playback. Wow. Better than the Indulge AND the Evo IMO.
My new phone is supposed to activate tommorow. Can't wait
Oh and I'm in the Dallas market. I'm on top of DFW airport. Dallas is Metros home market so system is overall good here, but I'm in a bit of a dip so reception can be an issue in my home.
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Sprint's been having nationwide issues for like the last 5 months. On 4G, I used to get 15 Mbps, now I get 1 Mbps. On 3G, I get 300 kbps tops. Their network is overcrowded, according to higherups I spoke to. They said it'll be fixed end of June. Not good enough.
I just got the phone today me and fiance both got same phone we were told our area had 3g coverage i contacted tmobile support and the tech stated it is not availabe he actually suggested we seek another carrier anyone have any suggestions to getting better quality signal and data...
Since you bought it from Tmob you should ask and get the unlock codes for free and also should be opt out of the early contract termination fee as well because it was not your fault about the coverage area. Don't let them push you around. Stick to your guns that the tmob rep said you would have 3G and yet you do not.
Check with ATT and see if they have better coverage in your area. The G2X can work on ATT networks as well but you would have to do some research on the settings and etc.
Thats my two cents if your gonna leave Tmob and keep the phones.
As for getting better reception or data signal theres pretty much nothing you can do to make it better if the towers aren't there.
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Since you bought it.......
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Agree with all that, maybe you can get the phone as a Standard rate plan, which they don't offer with smart phones. You can then use it wifi all over the place. And when the merger hits, you might get better reception if they can share antenna....though some say the G2x will not work on any 3G ATT signals.
thanks for the responses
Yea ive been searching around seeing if there was a fix or noticable difference in rooted pre gb releases for better sig/data strength and such i even caled tmo when i got home and spoke with tech rep and he suggested that i just return devices and go to a diff network I felt that was a horrible way to represent the company. Didnt even try or make a feeble attempt to troubleshoot just blew it off to ah well you dont get 3g in your area so to bad basically.
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Since you bought it from Tmob you should ask and get the unlock codes for free and also should be opt out of the early contract termination fee as well because it was not your fault about the coverage area. Don't let them push you around. Stick to your guns that the tmob rep said you would have 3G and yet you do not.
Check with ATT and see if they have better coverage in your area. The G2X can work on ATT networks as well but you would have to do some research on the settings and etc.
Thats my two cents if your gonna leave Tmob and keep the phones.
As for getting better reception or data signal theres pretty much nothing you can do to make it better if the towers aren't there.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the G2X only works on the 1700mhz 3G band. ATT does not use this band so he would be stuck on 2g, which is exactly the problem he's having with tmobs now.
well i should have gone further in to detail
The issue is in the store i was told that i would be in a 3g area once i got home i was only staring at the letter G on the highway i had 2G but at home now even outside I am at G and tech on the phone said i was in 2g area then proceeded to tell me i should look in to another company problem is ive tried verizon which is incredible service horrible support and sprint which had great customer service but horrid service I can travel to mount vernon and data roam.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the G2X only works on the 1700mhz 3G band. ATT does not use this band so he would be stuck on 2g, which is exactly the problem he's having with tmobs now.
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Hmmm you might be right and i have to retract my statement cuz now ever since the phone was released it showed that it was quad band and had both bands for tmob and ATT for 2g/3g/4g bands and now LG says its not.
Even Tmobs site showed it had that capability. I'm reading into it now. Thanks for the refresh course.
No one suggested WiFi Calling? I use it at work and its awesome. Really cuts down on battery usage too. Plus WiFi Calling is now FREE on Tmobile so why WOULDN'T you want to use it at home or at work?
Beats paying AT&T for a $100 WiFi Extender and having it come out of your bank of minutes.
Plus WiFi Calling works over standard WiFi, so even at McDonalds it will work.
Of course this is under the assumption that there IS some coverage around your home. If there was NO service then I would probably just look elsewhere. If you can at least make calls in your neighborhood and calls, text, and surf the web at home (using WiFi Calling and WiFi) then that isn't so bad. Text messages work on any network grade. The only issue you'd have with a slower network is data. But if there is decent service "around" your house, then WiFi calling works wonders to make sure you are online around your home.
It would actually be kinda cool to reply on a WiFi router for service because at 10pm I could just pull the plug and cells go off. No kids texting at 2am.
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Hmmm you might be right and i have to retract my statement cuz now ever since the phone was released it showed that it was quad band and had both bands for tmob and ATT for 2g/3g/4g bands and now LG says its not.
Even Tmobs site showed it had that capability. I'm reading into it now. Thanks for the refresh course.
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No one really knows but Tmobile is releasing lots of "Quad-band" phones in the event the AT&T merger goes through. They've even stated they ONCE the merger goes through, they will unlock the other frequencies.
So while there is no absolute answer whether our phones are truely quad-band until we crack it open and actually test, it would be odd that it passed FCC, had it listed on the website, and touted as one of the biggest features... only to NOT have no such hardware.
Makes more sense that Tmobile just "locked it up" for now.
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Yea ive been searching around seeing if there was a fix or noticable difference in rooted pre gb releases for better sig/data strength and such i even caled tmo when i got home and spoke with tech rep and he suggested that i just return devices and go to a diff network I felt that was a horrible way to represent the company. Didnt even try or make a feeble attempt to troubleshoot just blew it off to ah well you dont get 3g in your area so to bad basically.
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There really isn't much the csr over the phone can do. If you don't have service the person on the phone can't magically teleport a tower into your hood.
They offered you the chance to return the phone and get your money back. How else would you like them to proceed when they can't provide you with service?
Thanks all for the responses
Yea thats what ive been doing just got it set up to wifi in the house honestly out and about not that big an issue as i already have everything i need on the phone at that point unless its a game using data based connectivity which i can deal the phone in itself is just to nice for me to let go of and as for the last post honestly youve waited your breathe and I dont appreciate the rudeness really there is no magic tmo fairy to pop out of my ass and stick a new tower in my back yard gosh there goes that idea. but yea def love the phone testing out root lol i couldnt wait day 1 rooted and working on a good rom/kernel combo in the near future you can look forward to me buildling from aosp soon as this has been something i have been nearing for quite a while now just couldnt find a decent enough phone to dev on so be on the look out for the Triumph Rom coming soon to your neck of the woods.
I was rude? I thought I was just being logical and asked what you would have done if you were the csr.
I'm glad you are at least trying the phone out via wifi, 99% of the people here would have ditched it.
well if i mistook you i apologize
But i def would not recommend someone leave my business for another without prior checking thoroughly to see what other options there may be this guy spent 5 minutes on the phone with me he was in tech support and did no do any literally anything to troubleshoot why i was listed in a 2g area but only getting 1g was my big issue but honestly ill take this over sprint any day i cannot leave the house 5 minutes in any direction without data roaming so just pushed over dark and sin with faux kernel going to set it up and test drive I will be working up some gb roms once official release is out which from the reads i have found is only sometime soon. heres to hoping.
I was curious if anyone thinks that HTC's impending Gingerbread update for the Inspire 4G will fix the issues with the crappy speaker volume and tinny sound?
Probably not being as the DesireHD still suffers from it I believe even after the GB update.
I am not really into rooting, so the rooting arguments aren't valid. I prefer to stay stock.
Also on a different note, how do you tell if you are on 4G? Eventhough I am in a so-called 4G area, my network status always says HSDPA. I though I read somewhere if you are on 4G it says HSPA or HSPA+.
thanks for the info.
It might have a new radio that will fix bugs, but if I were to take a guess I would say no since the ROMs out there now do not.
If it says H+ then you're running 3.5/4G.
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It might have a new radio that will fix bugs, but if I were to take a guess I would say no since the ROMs out there now do not.
If it says H+ then you're running 3.5/4G.
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Acutally no, the H+ does not mean you are on 4G. It always says that, even in areas i know for a fact are still 3G. I remember when I got the phone it had the H+ even when AT&T didn't have the 4G network up yet.
I'm pretty sure when you look at the Network status under about phone it changes there. I noticed yesterday that an Atrix with the new GB update now says HSPA under network status.
You could always check into getting a warranty replacement cause even before I rooted my speaker hasn't suffered from any sound problems so maybe you have a bad speaker. Also you say you want to stay stock, there is a rooted stock rom in the developers thread.
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Acutally no, the H+ does not mean you are on 4G. It always says that, even in areas i know for a fact are still 3G. I remember when I got the phone it had the H+ even when AT&T didn't have the 4G network up yet.
I'm pretty sure when you look at the Network status under about phone it changes there. I noticed yesterday that an Atrix with the new GB update now says HSPA under network status.
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That's weird, because mine switches back to 3G sometimes. Maybe it's due to the ROM I'm running. Sorry if I provided wrong info.
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You could always check into getting a warranty replacement cause even before I rooted my speaker hasn't suffered from any sound problems so maybe you have a bad speaker. Also you say you want to stay stock, there is a rooted stock rom in the developers thread.
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I know it's not a bad phone. I've had mine before the general public got them. Everyone I know that went to that HTC conference complained about the bad speaker volume and clarity. Actually there are many threads on here and other forums with a ton of people complaining about it. Even the Devs made patches to try and fix it.
So I know it's a design issue.
Here's an example. If my iPhone is sitting downstairs on the table and I am upstairs, I can hear if I get a text or email. With my Inspire, I can't even hear it if it is on my belt and I am standing outside. If I didn't have it on vibrate I wouldn't even know I received a text. A few co workers who have the Inspire have the same issues, and their from different batches.
Bluetooth is also weird. If I have my BlueAnt on and get more than 10 feet from the phone it disconnects. With my iphone I can be on the other side of the house away from my phone and it still stays connected.
But anyway, I'm still trying to figure out the 4G indicator to know when I'm actually in 4G. I thought I remembered people here talking about it awhile back, but can't find any threads on it.
In reality the H+ will always be on regardless of if ure actually on 3.5, 3.0 or 4.0, atleast with the inspire. The only way is to look under about phone under settings. The reason AT&T put it like that as to make u believe that their 4g is everywhere and better. But in reality it really doesn't matter as At&ts 4g is not 4g regardless of what they call it.
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In reality the H+ will always be on regardless of if ure actually on 3.5, 3.0 or 4.0, atleast with the inspire. The only way is to look under about phone under settings. But in reality it really doesn't matter as At&ts 4g is not 4g regardless of what they call it.
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Well regardless of it not being true 4G, there has to be an indicator somewhere on what 3G variant you are on.
Being as the Atrix now displays HSPA on the new GB rom, unlike when it still said HSDPA in the same area with an Atrix which was still on 2.2 leads me to believe the radio in GB must be more accurate in showing what network you are on.
I am guessing that the Inspire is currently not displaying correctly being as it still says HSDPA sitting right next to an Atrix on GB which says HSPA under About Phone and Network.
My Inspire always says HSDPA regardless if I am in a so-called "4G" area or not.
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Well regardless of it not being true 4G, there has to be an indicator somewhere on what 3G variant you are on.
Being as the Atrix now displays HSPA on the new GB rom, unlike when it still said HSDPA in the same area with an Atrix which was still on 2.2 leads me to believe the radio in GB must be more accurate in showing what network you are on.
I am guessing that the Inspire is currently not displaying correctly being as it still says HSDPA sitting right next to an Atrix on GB which says HSPA under About Phone and Network.
My Inspire always says HSDPA regardless if I am in a so-called "4G" area or not.
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It is most likely that the inspire just wasn't configured to show the HSPA. Att might have thought they were gonna get an update out first. Could be the atrix is set if the data speed hits a mark it changes the HSPA and the Inspire isn't set for it yet. The only true test would be doing a speed test on both.
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I know it's not a bad phone. I've had mine before the general public got them. Everyone I know that went to that HTC conference complained about the bad speaker volume and clarity. Actually there are many threads on here and other forums with a ton of people complaining about it. Even the Devs made patches to try and fix it.
So I know it's a design issue.
Here's an example. If my iPhone is sitting downstairs on the table and I am upstairs, I can hear if I get a text or email. With my Inspire, I can't even hear it if it is on my belt and I am standing outside. If I didn't have it on vibrate I wouldn't even know I received a text. A few co workers who have the Inspire have the same issues, and their from different batches.
Bluetooth is also weird. If I have my BlueAnt on and get more than 10 feet from the phone it disconnects. With my iphone I can be on the other side of the house away from my phone and it still stays connected.
But anyway, I'm still trying to figure out the 4G indicator to know when I'm actually in 4G. I thought I remembered people here talking about it awhile back, but can't find any threads on it.
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Its not just you, the speaker is crap and so is the bluetooth, and so is the cell radio,and so is the battery, and the screen pops up, and.... LOL
I have 2 inspires and have had nothing but trouble. First htc that has let me down. I had a friend that went through 3 inspires trying to get the bluetooth fixed and they were all the same, he has since moved on. Hell I can put my phone right next to my radio and cover the bluetooth ant with my hand and get it to break up, pure crap. If I use a bluetooth headset it will start to get staticy if I put the phone in my pocket.I honestly think it has allot to do with the metal body.
I hate to be debbie downer but its true. You will be hard pressed to find allot of negative posts here because we have pride in ownership. I personally dont care. I call a spade a spade, and this phone has some serious issues. Not to say I dont like the phone because I do. But without the dev support I would have chucked this flacker a long time ago. With the proper rom its just so fast.
Now I will say that ever since I moved to virtuous unity my speaker is worlds better. I have flashed a **** ton of roms and vu has the best speaker performance for my inspires by far. I tried +20% kernels,dsp manager,volume apk and all that stuff. sure it made the volume louder some but it sounded like ass and still wasnt even close to being loud. with virtuous unity I am actually somewhat satisfied. Youtube videos and stuff still lack, but its worlds better.
As for actually being on the hspa+ signal or not, I dont know. On the stock rom I am almost certain the 3g,hspda, and hspa+ are all signified by h+. I know that allot of dev roms differentiate between 3g and hspa. But quiet honestly the speed difference is not night and day anyway. Your iphone probably gets damn near the same speeds. Some guys are getting 8megs and ****, but I have yet to go over 5 and I can get that with an iphone or other 3g android. And yes I am in a hspa+ area with increased backhaul.