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picked up 2 Nexus S on release day, went home happy. Preoccupied with work, so I only powered them up last night.
To my Surprise, both phones have dust under the glass! WTF Samsung? Removed the plastic sheet on the front to make sure, and yes, it's under the glass.
on one phone the dust was smack in the middle, while on the other phone it was a little left of the middle.
Can't be seen on a dark screen, but once you switch to a white background like the web or texting you can see it.
I know I am probably being OCD and anal about this, but heck I paid over $1k for both phones out of contract.
Went back to BestBuy and returned them promply, of course now they are sold out, and I have to wait for the next shipment.
Just wondering if others have similar experiences? BTW, I also had a Galaxy Tab and before returned it, it also had some dust specs under the glass...
I also own an HD2 and G2, seems HTC is better at QC.
Shame, really want this phone but WTF samsung?
Nope you sure its under the glass?
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No dust under the screen here.
It seems that this first batch of phones is a rather mixed bag; some have defects and others are fine. It was a good idea to return them, hopefully your replacements will be free of issues.
My first S had a little speck of something. I initially thought it was a dead pixel, but I could see it when the screen was off also so I assumed it was dust. I returned it and checked the next one out before I left the store and it seems to be good.
slowz3r said:
Nope you sure its under the glass?
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100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.
jdm_cars said:
100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.
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this happen when you have 2 layers for the screen. the internal part and the upper part where you touch.
there is an advantage for this. if god forbid you dropped and broke the screen, only the upper part gets replaced. and wouldnt cost you much to do so " and you wont get another screen with dead pixel and being OCD whatever the new screen is good or not. because the actuall inner screen isnt touched.
the bad thing about is what you said. dust can enter in the middle between both layers of the screen.
even if you get a new nexus S without dust under the screen, if you leave it in the open area with sun and wind always hitting it, you will get a dust somehow inside as well. so make sure your phone is in a pocket most of the time.
the only phone i remember right now that had both layers of the screens touched as 1 part is the iphone 2G and the iphone 4 " i am sure there are others but i dont know "
this result to no dust under the screen no matter what " unless the dust came from factory while they were attaching both screens on top of each other and glue them "
but if you break your screen in the iphone 4.... god help you.
Yeah, after about a week and couple of days of usage, I've got my first spec of dust in the top left area of the screen. Really, it's nothing noticeable but I do have some sort of OCD with my phone (god help me if I get a visible scratch on the screen).
I don't think it's really worth taking it back to get it changed as this Nexus S I have currently has no problems whatsoever, I don't even have the pink or yellow screen issue with this one. I think I'm just gonna have to live with that one spec of dust for now...
I think this may be just bad QC. I looked at ifixit taking apart the NS. Basically they said the trickiest part to the disassembly was the screen, and they had to use a heat gun to soften the glue just to separate the 2 screens. So dust entering between those 2 screens would be pretty difficult unless the glue wasn't properly applied from the assembly line.
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I don't have dust under my Nexus S screen... but I do have dust under my front facing camera! And its only recently just got there - I remember playing around with it extensively when I first got it 6 months ago and the camera was really clear and sharp.
Now it is all fuzzy and white haze. And I can see all the dust particles on the underside of the glass. Annoying!
Anyone know if there's an easy way to clean it? Or is it a case of back to Samsung?
So, I was lucky enough to get my transformer today. Though I do love it, is anyone else having these problems?
-Light bleed
-Creaking/flex on the right side of the tablet, but not on the left
-Some dead pixels(not very noticeable, but I was able to catch around 3-4)
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So, I was lucky enough to get my transformer today. Though I do love it, is anyone else having these problems?
-Light bleed
-Creaking/flex on the right side of the tablet, but not on the left
-Some dead pixels(not very noticeable, but I was able to catch around 3-4)
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I have minor light bleeding but no creaking or flex.. How are you checking for dead pixel?
There are a few other threads about the flexing and the light bleed. I haven't experienced any dead pixels, but there is a specific paragraph on it in the warranty i.e how many and how close together in order to qualify for a warranty repair.
My Transformer is flexing at the top rim near the camera. I don't really think its a huge problem though. Just feels weird if you grip there.
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So, I was lucky enough to get my transformer today. Though I do love it, is anyone else having these problems?
-Light bleed
-Creaking/flex on the right side of the tablet, but not on the left
-Some dead pixels(not very noticeable, but I was able to catch around 3-4)
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Light bleed:yes,but not noticeable most time,and this issue seems to be common.
Creaking:sometimes,especially when holding TF by one hand,acceptable though.
No dead pixels,i've tested that using some pure color pictures.
On the 3rd day,i found a dust under the lens cover of rear camera...
iAndroidFan said:
Light bleed:yes,but not noticeable most time,and this issue seems to be common.
Creaking:sometimes,especially when holding TF by one hand,acceptable though.
No dead pixels,i've tested that using some pure color pictures.
On the 3rd day,i found a dust under the lens cover of rear camera...
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Light bleed yes
No Creaking
No Dead pixels
I do have audio sync issues when recording video
Light bleed yes
No creaking
one stuck lit pixel
No dust
Light bleed and creaking on the top and bottom near the corners on both sides. No dust under screen or dead pixels
TheRealBoat said:
So, I was lucky enough to get my transformer today. Though I do love it, is anyone else having these problems?
-Light bleed
-Creaking/flex on the right side of the tablet, but not on the left
-Some dead pixels(not very noticeable, but I was able to catch around 3-4)
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some creaking, protip: plastic creaks.
Some flex on the back, nowhere else though.
No dead pixels, extremely minimal bleed.
light bleed
1 stuck pixel
Light bleed: yes
Creak: it flexes a little but not too bad
Dead pixels: yes. At least 2.
Screen skewed: yes. Off center skewed display.
Returned for a replacement. Waiting for stock again.
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my main concern is that on day one i had no bleed nor creaking. but 6 days later now i have both. what happens a month from now? the paint flakes?
i don't plan on keeping it after kal-el tablets come out, but dammit i'd like for it to last that long.
i just picked up the pre-order from best buy that i was going to cancel b/c i wanted to see if it had less issues. the new one actually has more bleed than my current but no creaking. i'm pretty sure it'll start creaking if i put more handling on it.
Makes me wanna believe they glued the rim on thats why its creaking when the glue fails to stick ;o
light bleed.
No, the pixels and light bleed arnt anything super major, but I dont know if I am ocd, but the the creaking seems to be enough to bother me. The ride side of the tablet is perfectly fine and very sturdy feeling, but I feel like the left is just not the same. Would this be okay to be sent in for warranty or exchanged? Should I just return it and wait?
Man... lots and lots of issues. I know the majority of people without issues, don't report. But the number of new cases keep expanding every day that goes by. I'm still waiting for my TF101, but I'm more and more skeptical.
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Makes me wanna believe they glued the rim on thats why its creaking when the glue fails to stick ;o
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it has to be. it would be terrible if it's screws getting loose already. I can actually squeeze the front and back together on my left corner. the back is no longer flush with the bezel like the right side is. the right is only giving slight squeaks. hoping it doesn't get worse.
I hate to say this but this is typed out on my iPad. I really hate posting in this forum on my android tablets bc of the lag.
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it has to be. it would be terrible if it's screws getting loose already. I can actually squeeze the front and back together on my left corner. the back is no longer flush with the bezel like the right side is. the right is only giving slight squeaks. hoping it doesn't get worse.
I hate to say this but this is typed out on my iPad. I really hate posting in this forum on my android tablets bc of the lag.
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The issues you are describing are serious build quality problems, the unit is defective and should be replaced.
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So, I was lucky enough to get my transformer today. Though I do love it, is anyone else having these problems?
-Light bleed
-Creaking/flex on the right side of the tablet, but not on the left
-Some dead pixels(not very noticeable, but I was able to catch around 3-4)
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Maybe you go to RC to solve these problem.
Well, the more posts I see around, the less optimistic I am about seeing Asus fix the light bleed issues with the TF. For some reason, this is the only issue that is bothering me enough to consider returning it. If it wasn't for that, I would be a 95% satisfied customer.
Anyways, instead of waiting for answers, I figured I'd look for alternative methods of fixing the light bleed. I came across this post:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1125227
Do you think it's possible. First we need to know what exactly causes this light bleed to be able to address it. It could be simpler than we thought.
Have you guys tried this? Any other recommendations?
Well bang away and let us know what happens.....
P.S. Go JETS.
Not sure if you could do this due to gorilla glass overlay
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From everything I've seen on the internet, I just think light bleed is problem of the technology, its what happens when you have a screen that is using a side lit LED screen vs a back lit LED screen. (Ipad2, Transformer, and multitude of LED Tv's). Its the drawback of having the thinnest screen that everyone is wanting.
I'm not so sure, mine didn't have bleed at all until after I'd had it a couple of days, it just appeared. I'd handled it with kids gloves. I'm wondered if the light bleed may be caused by the case distorting a bit due to internal heat and or the fact that the housing isn't particularly strong?
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I'm not so sure, mine didn't have bleed at all until after I'd had it a couple of days, it just appeared. I'd handled it with kids gloves. I'm wondered if the light bleed may be caused by the case distorting a bit due to internal heat and or the fact that the housing isn't particularly strong?
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If you carefully put pressure on the bezel you will notice that the light bleed is changing. It seems to be a dynamic process so your observation doesn't mean you "abused" the tablet. It's just the problem with having a flexible material (plastic) as case.
That means that it must be related to some pressure on those spots where the light bleed is originating from. Perhaps there is a way to relieve it some?!
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That means that it must be related to some pressure on those spots where the light bleed is originating from. Perhaps there is a way to relieve it some?!
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I have no idea if the following is true but I think I remember the light bleed is caused by insufficient sealing. So if you morph the case it might lift the seal more. To find the right spots to fix this is very difficult IMHO (acupressure ).
Flex your TF or press on areas of the bezel and you will affect the light bleed.
There is no way to fix without disassembling it and having right tech to reassemble in a way that is perfectly even.
What causes light bleed?
Kinda a dumb question.
You see, an LCD panel needs this thing called a 'backlight', that shines through the liquid crystal layer. It's filtered by the liquid crystals to produce different colors.
Well, sometimes this backlight can 'bleed' around the edges of the LCD because it's not sealed up properly.
The 'fix' for this on a device like a Transformer would require disassembly and reassembly to better seal the edges of the screen.
The best solution any of us will be able to get will be to RMA our units and hope the replacements are a little better built. Personally, the bleed doesn't bother me much at all, so I'm not going to bother.
Could ASUS not ad a this metal support border to the screen, to counteract some of the flexibility in the chassis? EK follows the same principal with their waterblocks (allbeit for different reasons)
Maybe ASUS could fix it by adding some felt around the glass before assembling it, let it act as a washer.
how about some ducktape ... that fixes everything.
the light bleed is def due to to much pressure on the screen
FrayAdjacent said:
What causes light bleed?
Kinda a dumb question.
You see, an LCD panel needs this thing called a 'backlight', that shines through the liquid crystal layer. It's filtered by the liquid crystals to produce different colors.
Well, sometimes this backlight can 'bleed' around the edges of the LCD because it's not sealed up properly.
The 'fix' for this on a device like a Transformer would require disassembly and reassembly to better seal the edges of the screen.
The best solution any of us will be able to get will be to RMA our units and hope the replacements are a little better built. Personally, the bleed doesn't bother me much at all, so I'm not going to bother.
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Really? Are you that obnoxious? You gave a pretty complex and technical answer to just a dumb question.
hello,
Are you satisfied with the tf300t screen quality? I think the black on mine is a little uneven with really faint lines when the screen is completely black.do you think it is normal?
thanks
It would be way better if it weren't for the large areas of light bleed around the edges and corners! Other than than, I'm satisfied.
I get loads of backlight bleeding on mine. The screen as a whole (including the glass surface) seems a step backward from the TF101.
I just started noticing light bleed on the left and right sides of mine. Nothing major, only really noticeable on the loading screen and to a lesser extent, my primarily black wallpaper (a style I tend to favor).
Other than that, I have no complaints. Although, if I fire up Angry Birds Space and put it right next to my girlfriends iPad 2, it definitely does not look quite as nice.
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My old Prime had some noticable bleeding several places around the edges, but that was only visible when displaying black and at a high brightness.
I've always hated light bleeding, and also uneven black-levels, but I always get devices with these errors no matter what... I've had 6 different LCD-TV's, and every one of them has had various problems with light bleeding / uneven backlight / black levels - so i started to think it wasn't possible to get it perfect, and that it was only me who was being too demanding.
However, my TF300T seems perfect - guess I'm lucky with this one
I just bought this tablet and there is one spot (about the size of my thumb, in the lower left quadrant of the screen) that shows up lighter against a dark background-- for ex. when it's booting up.
It's bothering me but I haven't decided if I'll attempt to get it exchanged (I could get a worse one?).
well,I just found a tiny little dot on the screen.It doesn't seem to be a dead pixel but a tiny hole in the polarizer...
On my second device. Traded my 16 for a 32gbversion when they first released them. My 16 screen was perfect out of the box, no bleed, no dead pixels. My 32 looks like a shop light when booting but i don't notice it during use. Watch out,the screens scratch soooo easy. Definitely pick up a screen guard, this isn't gorilla glass.
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On my second device. Traded my 16 for a 32gbversion when they first released them. My 16 screen was perfect out of the box, no bleed, no dead pixels. My 32 looks like a shop light when booting but i don't notice it during use. Watch out,the screens scratch soooo easy. Definitely pick up a screen guard, this isn't gorilla glass.
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i can confirm this as well although it doesn't bother me at all, the scratches are light so you don't see them when the screen is on. i'd rather have a few light scratches then a screen protector since i always get lint or dust stuck under the protector, even when i'm extra carefull and this bothers me more than scratches.
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After 2+ weeks, I just noticed light bleed (in total darkness) at the bottom left corner, corner of recent menu button. Anyone else getting light bleed?
You can only see it while the recent button light flashes on.
Not on a screen tough....
You talking about gap between screen and metal side (left corner)...yes at night I see light coming from there...we all got that.
Cheap ass samsung:victory::laugh:
Actually, I have it on the right side at where the curved glass meets the metal. Didn't notice it for the first week though which is weird honestly because I scrutinize my devices when I first get them. But yeah it's only a minor annoyance, not worth exchanging it.
Yes, the gap between the screen and the metal ring. Anyone Not have this issue?
I get led bleed.
When the green charging led is on and its really dark in the room. You can see the green bleeding under the black trim and onto the lcd.
Other then that i havent seen any bleeding.
I remember the white models of some of the samsungs phones had bad bleeding.
white note edge
I have it all around the screen on the top and bottom and 2 sodes it looks like its glowing
I guess I'm lucky. No led bleed here but I also have the black version. Are yall using the white?
white note edge
Ok thanks for reply and yes i have the white one
white note edge
It was a fault with the fone i took it back to carphone warehouse and swoped for a black one rhanks for u help
Yeah ive heard quite a few people with the white one complaining of the bleed. I played with the white one in the AT&T store and saw the same thing. Thats why i went with thevplain ol' black. The white looks much better imo but i couldnt deal with the bleeding
white note edge
Yh samsung told me it was a fault so i took it back and got black i do think blsck is better the back is cheap feeling and the edge looks cheap to glad i got black now
I haven't seen any bleeding from the black Verizon Edge so far, at least from the screen to the home button area. Verizon has a cheap, but very awesome and good feeling case that covers the light bleed between the framework. I never noticed it in the 3 days before I got the case though. Has anyone noticed light bleed on their black Edge's so far?
white note edge
Kainoa3 said:
I haven't seen any bleeding from the black Verizon Edge so far, at least from the screen to the home button area. Verizon has a cheap, but very awesome and good feeling case that covers the light bleed between the framework. I never noticed it in the 3 days before I got the case though. Has anyone noticed light bleed on their black Edge's so far?
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No as i said i bort the white on sim free in the uk lucky really and it was reli bad on the white so took it back to shop and swoped for the black what i wanted in the first place and not one little bit have i seen the white just felt cheap and with the light leakin i mean the whole fone around the edge of the screen was like green wear it was leakin i am not payin £700 for that no way
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No as i said i bort the white on sim free in the uk lucky really and it was reli bad on the white so took it back to shop and swoped for the black what i wanted in the first place and not one little bit have i seen the white just felt cheap and with the light leakin i mean the whole fone around the edge of the screen was like green wear it was leakin i am not payin £700 for that no way
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Yeah I read your post about swapping them out. I originally wanted the white because it looked cleaner, but now that I have the black and after reading all the posts I'm so glad Verizon only has the black one available. I don't blame you, I wouldn't pay that much for something I wasn't completely happy with either.