Seeder - lag reduction app - Kindle Fire Themes and Apps

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032&nocache=1
has anyone tried this on their kindle fire? Notice any significant performance improvement? Increased battery life consumption?

Try the apk... I felt It's quite a battery drainer.
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I love it, it acts weird and shuts off, but really works well

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Urahara said:
But wouldn't that just be a huge waste of development since it's free?
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$1.50 in the play store. The dev has made thousands off this snake oil.

Ok, I'm probably wrong, but I believe placenta is a body part found in women. The umbilical cord goes through it, or something. Probably wrong, but, YOLO.
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veeman said:
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I can't speak for the KF1 because I haven't loaded this app on mine yet, but I can say that certain things do load faster with this app. I'm not saying that games run better, but there is a noticeable difference when navigating back to the home screen or launching the messaging app on my phone. I would assume that this might help the KF1 because of the somewhat older hardware, since the consensus seems to be that newer hardware already uses this sort of tactic to reduce CPU lag. Obviously I didn't read all one billion pages of the "discussion" about whether this works or not, so please let me know if I'm super wrong.

Gave it a spin on my kindle fire 1 and noticed absolutely zero performance difference. I'd have to agree it is a placebo, at least on the kf1
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I felt that it slowed it down especially when playing games.
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(Q) GTA3 working on Charge

Anyone have GTA3 from market working on their charge?
Mine downloaded fine but then just sits at a black screen the goes back to launcher after about 5 seconds.
I'm running infinity 1204
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Sorry to say, but our Samsung Charges don't have the nVidia Tegra 2 that GTA3 for Android was built around... You're SOL man. Might still be able to refund your purchase and get yourself a PSP. All jokes aside though I did the same thing and looked it up after. Only phones with the chipset Tegra 2 can operate GTA3.
Have you tried using Chainfire 3D?
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Tried with Chainfire, no luck. Chainfire emulates Tegra's decoding and processing, but can't emulate its hardware, IIRC, so some games (Riptide GP) work perfectly, some games (Galaxy on Fire 2) are glitchy as hell but playable, and some (well, this) just don't work at all.
There's some people without tegras workings. Just depends I guess.
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Probably need better hardware...
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There may be hope. I was poking around in the Galaxy Tab forums (I have one, plus it has the same CPU and GPU). lo and behold, I found the same thread there. One person said this:
misterjom said:
Might be good news:
I found out through LogCat that the problem might lie within the PowerVR SGX540. Which is in fact the same GPU as the Galaxy Nexus, in which Rockstar states will fix soon. So yeah, it should work, just wait a bit for an update.
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It works fine now after update.
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Still not working for me after the update
It worked for me after the update, however, the game lagged pretty bad and eventually froze. It didn't FC, it eventually came back but it wasn't playable. I haven't tried it again since.
So after uninstalling GTA3, I am not unable to re-install it. The Market claims my device in not compatible with it. How did I download it before then??? Any ideas here?
JoeVsFox said:
So after uninstalling GTA3, I am not unable to re-install it. The Market claims my device in not compatible with it. How did I download it before then??? Any ideas here?
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Apply Market Fix. I think it's in jrummy's ROM toolbox
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kvswim said:
Apply Market Fix. I think it's in jrummy's ROM toolbox
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Did the trick. Runs fairly smooth enough to tolerate. Thanks.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
It worked for me after the update, however, the game lagged pretty bad and eventually froze. It didn't FC, it eventually came back but it wasn't playable. I haven't tried it again since.
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This sums it up for me, our poor Hummingbird can't keep up
Still worth the $3, it's nostalgic, and good to keep for a future more powerful device
adrenaline_rush said:
This sums it up for me, our poor Hummingbird can't keep up
Still worth the $3, it's nostalgic, and good to keep for a future more powerful device
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Luckily, I just got an ASUS Transformer and GTA3 runs amazingly well.

Battery Life test Results

I was pretty pleased with my results here, so I thought I'd share. This is done with both OC and UV and making use of the the 3500mah batt and with moderate/normal use.
I can get that on stock battery, you must play some games and leave your phone on full brightness at all times or something.
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mt3g said:
I can get that on stock battery, you must play some games and leave your phone on full brightness at all times or something.
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No, I play one game in particular, and I spend more time on the web on my phone than most people do on their computer. I could get that on a stock battery too, if I never actually used my phone Before the the changes I made, I was getting significantly less life. Especially with OC.
It looks like the moment you turn your screen on your battery life plummets.
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redmonke255 said:
It looks like the moment you turn your screen on your battery life plummets.
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Thats from Oc'ing to 1560 lol
It's more useful to post test results on a standard battery and standard voltages and clock speeds so others can compare. I've gotten 3 days on stock CM7 nightly before, it really depends on how much one uses their phone. The biggest clue to how a ROM or kernel affects battery is to look at the idle drain (maybe with data off too). It should be flat or with < 0.5%/hr drain.
Where'd you get the 3500 Mah battery you are using? I've been trying to find a decent maker for one.

Big speed increase...Read here

If you haven't already heard about it.. 'SEEDER', new amazing App. Made my phone a good 3x faster. If you are rooted it can be found in the app store. I flashed the .ZIP. You can find it online here. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/01/0...n-nexus-7-and-others-with-seeder-application/
P.S this work with any Android device. Have fun
Yes I know this should be in apps and themes but everyone deserves to see this, especially us Tbolt guys.
This has been proven to be a placebo affect. I have tested it for almost 3 days now and it doesn't really help at all. Also someone mentioned in that forum it doesn't work properly with snapdragon processors because the rndg is different than others. If it does help at all I think it would help more for the lag that comes from not rebooting for a long period of time.
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disconnecktie said:
This has been proven to be a placebo affect. I have tested it for almost 3 days now and it doesn't really help at all. Also someone mentioned in that forum it doesn't work properly with snapdragon processors because the rndg is different than others. If it does help at all I think it would help more for the lag that comes from not rebooting for a long period of time.
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Proof? I am running liquid smooth and notice immediate improvement.
Here
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
I have been using it with unsense and it hasn't really improved anything. No difference in performance without it either. Like I said it's a placebo caused by the fact that the tweak actually wakes your processor repeatedly which is why your phone seems to react better. You can use it if you like but it is really just a battery drainer. You can get the same performance increase by setting your governor on performance.
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musicfreak190 said:
If you haven't already heard about it.. 'SEEDER', new amazing App. Made my phone a good 3x faster. If you are rooted it can be found in the app store. I flashed the .ZIP. You can find it online here. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/01/0...n-nexus-7-and-others-with-seeder-application/
P.S this work with any Android device. Have fun
Yes I know this should be in apps and themes but everyone deserves to see this, especially us Tbolt guys.
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What rom are you running?
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I ran it on nu sense and it drained my battery and noticed no improvement in speed. You see an increase because you want to see an increase. Its like throttle body spacers people puts on their cars. Suppose to improve performance and increase fuel mileage. They do no such thing but make a nice paper weight. People who had them swear they could feel an increase. One guy put his truck on a dyno and tested with it on and with it off. His results was with it on he lost a few hp. This is why butt dynos are so inaccurate because we make our selves believe we can see and feel a difference. When in fact there isn't.
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I've been using the seeder apk for a few days now and have noticed a decrease in input lag for sure. I also noticed a decrease in battery life when using the phone.
Ionace7 said:
I've been using the seeder apk for a few days now and have noticed a decrease in input lag for sure. I also noticed a decrease in battery life when using the phone.
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Like I mentioned in my earlier post. It cause a wake lock on the processor making it wake repeatedly which is the likely reason that anyone notices anything. It in no way shape or form affects entropy which was the original intent of the app. Google has also stated that the very issue this is supposed to fix was actually fixed with the release of ICS. Try it on a gb rom and see if it actually works. Also, after you run it for a few days disable it and see if there is a decrease in performance. I've ran it for about three days and there is no difference without it running.
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I am on Liquid Smooth 3.2 GB... and there is no doubt a BIG difference. No joke.. IDK about sense ROMS but, this literally is amazing.
musicfreak190 said:
I am on Liquid Smooth 3.2 GB... and there is no doubt a BIG difference. No joke.. IDK about sense ROMS but, this literally is amazing.
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Google devs have stated that there was an issue with entropy in gb roms so there is no doubt that it probably helps it.
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I have installed Seeder on my Gingerbread (SkyRaider Zeus) Thunderbolt and 4.2.1 Galaxy Tab 10.1.
In neither case has it improved speed, launching or operations.
I wanted to believe. In my testing, i call it wishful thinking.

Disappointing performance.

So I have the US version and I've had it for a while (about a month) and I'm really disappointed with the performance. Scroll lags, the notification shade pulls down smoother on a galaxy player (that has less than 500mb of ram and is single core) and the 3d gaming performance is laggy. Like GTA3 should be able to run on max settings! Just disappointed and expected more.
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OK? Why post this? Why not just get a new phone? Have you tried any other ROMs?
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I played Tactics Ogre on my phone and Dead Trigger with no problems. Plus with most ROMs I don't encounter the same lag you have experience.
Maybe Powersave mode is on...
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OK? Why post this? Why not just get a new phone? Have you tried any other ROMs?
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Sorry, the rest got cut out for some reason. I was asking if anyone else had this problem.
And a new phone is not an option. My family is on forclosure on the house right now so I might just cancel my data plan and use this as like an iPod.
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ericsdeadinside said:
Maybe Powersave mode is on...
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Trust me I checked that.
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Idk man, I've not had much lag at all. I've been rooted since the day I got it of course, so I've been running custom ROMs for a while.
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Try flashing Cyanogen Mod from the original android section. General ui is much snappier and it doesn't have game lag like all the 4.1.2 TW ROMs.
Samsung really dropped the ball with the 4.1.2 updates. A phone this powerful should not lag playing temple run.
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I get some lag while playing ingress and minecraft. Kinda annoying but it's better than my old phone and I hope my next is better than this one.
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Are you running it stock? Phone runs great with custom stock ROMs & Kernals, but everyone has their own opinions. The games i've played ive not have any lag, but i'm running a custom kernal and ROM. That probably has is the difference, but i'm not overclocked.
well there's only two things that are certain in this world.... no tech device is ever perfect and taxes always increase.
If you expect anything different you will always be disappointed.
That being said, I had ANdroid phones since the HTC Eris and they keep improving. S3 is really nice, maybe the best of this generation, but its not perfect.
Lots of people are looking for infinite gaming speed + infinite battery life... well the two don't go together. There are always trade-off. speed vs. power, vs. size, vs. cost.
Oh and by the way, multi-core is mostly a marketing gimmick. The GPU does most of the graphics work and most apps are not multi-threaded, so a fast single core beats a slower multi-core every time. It's cheaper to make a slow multi-core processor than to make a faster single core.
I also noticed lag on the device which i put off was caused by Touch Wiz. I confirmed this when i finally rooted and started trying different ROMs.
The lag is there in all TW ROM's for me; however if you really want to stick with TW, the smoothest running TW ROM I've tried so far is Goodness. That is what i'm currently using. I don't experience lag during gaming or Apps though even with touch wiz... so might be just your phone.
However, if you can do without touchwiz, the AOSP ROMs are like butter and i experience no lag at all. At least the 4.2.2 ROMS. I've tried Liquidsmooth, paranoid android, Pac-man and Chameleon.
Crazy I'm 100 % stock and my phone runs awesome! I don't do much gaming so I can't chime in on that but I don't have lag at all like you describe. Do you have a live wallpaper installed??
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I've tried a lot of the TW based ROM, Synergy, Hyperdrive , others and all the well developed one's run great for me. I don't see any lag. I also tried CM10 and no noticeable difference, I think a lot of the comment are caused by placebo effec, some people just hate OEM stufft. Also people will load up their home screens with 3000 widgets and say wow this phone / rom sucks, LOL m Then they load some new ROM with no widgets yet and go, wow this is really smooth....... until they load 3000 widgets and it sucks again. Hey , there really is a limit to performance on any phone.

[Q] Safe to overclock?

Would it be safe to overclock to 2.8GHz with the CPU Governor as "intelliactive" and leave it there for normal use?
ROM: HD Revolution 5.5
Kernel: Faux
Probably.
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With some tweaking it should be stable. My one question though... Why? Who needs that much power lol
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wtoj34 said:
With some tweaking it should be stable. My one question though... Why? Who needs that much power lol
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The real question is why not? LOL. Honestly though I just like finding new things to do with my phone and coming from a locked Galaxy S4 I have to say I'm enjoying the amount of things I can do with this device that I couldn't on the S4. The extra 600MHz was because I was hoping it would drop any chances of lag with my favorite apps & Xposed which always seems to cause a delay or two for me. On the other hand I like squeezing what I can out of it. Same with my Desktop too, get maximum stable over clock and stick with it. ;D. If there's some downsides such as life shortage feel free to mention it though because I'd rather know early on than when it's too late. Sorta the point of this thread
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S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
The real question is why not? LOL. Honestly though I just like finding new things to do with my phone and coming from a locked Galaxy S4 I have to say I'm enjoying the amount of things I can do with this device that I couldn't on the S4. The extra 600MHz was because I was hoping it would drop any chances of lag with my favorite apps & Xposed which always seems to cause a delay or two for me. On the other hand I like squeezing what I can out of it. Same with my Desktop too, get maximum stable over clock and stick with it. ;D. If there's some downsides such as life shortage feel free to mention it though because I'd rather know early on than when it's too late. Sorta the point of this thread
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I've got my i5 2500k overclocked to 4.3 GHz now stock voltage . As for life shortage its hard to say. I would monitor temps on stock vs over clocked and compare. As long as it doesn't get considerably warmer which for mobile would be 10° more or less you should be fine
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wtoj34 said:
I've got my i5 2500k overclocked to 4.3 GHz now stock voltage . As for life shortage its hard to say. I would monitor temps on stock vs over clocked and compare. As long as it doesn't get considerably warmer which for mobile would be 10° more or less you should be fine
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Well with normal use it gets like 40-55 C (CPU) and during an Antutu benchmark just at the beginning it hit 75C sooo not very happy with that.... especially considering that's in the highs for a lot of desktop processors, can't even imagine how bad that must be for a phone processor LOL. It was @2.803 MHz with voltage of "1130" & ondemand governor. Not so sure as to what "1130" is based on though as I'm new to mobile over clocking, guess I'll figure it out tomorrow!
Edit: Forgot to include that just a few minutes ago I flashed a new kernel due to some random lag, old one never hit above 50 even on tests (with intelliactive). Also using ondemand/interactive now. Gonna re check the differences on those two governors tomorrow and decide which one I wanna go with! : D
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Very cool. Now you got me wanting to overclock. Bad things happen when I cross paths with those numbers
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