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[Q] Keep TF or wait for Galaxy Tab?

With all the issues that seem to be plaguing the TF, would it be advantageous to wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1? I was under the impression it would have a TW overlay, but an article I read today said it is a stock Android Experience Device.
Without factoring in the Dock, should I wait for the Tab?

Looking at google i/o special edition there was no sd slot or hdmi port on the tablet. I havent found any site that show it will come with the either. So, you are going to spend more for a tablet where you cant expand the space. Samsung will have issues too, minor or major we just dont know yet. Samsung record of release updates are not great. Samsung wil also have terga 2 like the TF. Pls screen vs ips screen, wow 10% brighter then ips. Imho, Tab 10.1 will be a failure.

nebrando said:
With all the issues that seem to be plaguing the TF, would it be advantageous to wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1? I was under the impression it would have a TW overlay, but an article I read today said it is a stock Android Experience Device.
Without factoring in the Dock, should I wait for the Tab?
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I'm almost 100% certain that the GT2 will have the samsung UI, I can't remember the name now.
What I'm 100% certain is that the google IO Samsung tabs were only standard android HC.
Hope this helps,
rio

dazz87 said:
Looking at google i/o special edition there was no sd slot ... on the tablet.
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There should be a DS slot. Look at androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-special-edition-20110511

according to http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/
it will have samsung touchwiz ui.
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there may not be an sd slot on the limited edition,but it may has one on the final edition.
One of the videos shows that it has an sd card slot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBNXHk-9sTg
at 0:52,the guy says, "of course the micro sd card slot"...

Touchwizz is actually becoming good. At least better than stock android. Look at the mini app tray and additional widgets (which you are free to remove and use stock ones instead anyway).

http://gadgetian.com/10288/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-specs-price-2/
Price & Availability
The Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 hit the markets on June 8th, and the 16GB version will cost you $499 and the 32GB goes for $599.
Read more: http://gadgetian.com/10288/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-specs-price-2/#ixzz1M8srRLQc
Any price info. about the Dock?

Same price as iPad 2 if I remember correctly.
$499 16gb, $599 32gb.

Yeah everything is just a rumor still but it may very well have no SD card support and Samsung has been calling it touchwiz ux. I had my heart set in a galaxy tab but if they are not going to have SD card it HDMI or USB support i may just get a tansformer
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Yeah, it looks pretty nice but I must have a microsd slot and I really like mini hdmi. (Hooked it up last night to a HDTV and it looks really good!)
I can't believe I read that this is actually THINNER than the iPad 2. The iPad 2 is pretty dang thin.

The weight and thin factors had me very intrigued at first. Then I heard it would have Touchwiz which I hated on my phone when it was stock, so that pretty much turned me off from it. Then yesterday, I read somewhere it wasn't going to have TW. I see now that was just the Google IO version.
Thanks for the answers and I guess I will be sticking with the TF. I do like the fact that I can expand the storage capacity as well.

No matter what, TouchWiz should have the option to be disabled, that is a must for an Android device.
There should be some way of expanding/connecting the device to other devices, so there will be at least USB (possibly mini) or SD card slot (probably micro SD). But the problem with our guesses is that the design might still be fluid. Look at the TF, according to the reviews as of 1 month before I got mine, there were various buttons, and it was still running Froyo or something.
rio

I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.

I'm also considering getting it as well. I like the TF, blows the Xoom away, but the thinness of the GT is really appealing. I also have an iPad 2 and love the way it feels in your hand, the thinness really makes a big difference. The TF feels slightly more "clunky" than the iPad 2, but not as bad as the Xoom.
Samsung does make nice screens, I'm sure the GT's will look good. I have some slight backlight bleed on my TF and it's starting to drive me nuts.
I was looking at the images on Samsung's website GT section, and the UI looks pretty much stock HC to me, perhaps they're using a stripped down version of TouchWiz on this (I hope). Also, on the image of the side view, it does appear to have a MicroSD slot there, but not sure, could be for the sim card?

tornadog said:
I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.
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Oh **** I accidentally clicked thanks instead of quote.
http://consumerist.com/2011/02/why-does-best-buy-need-my-id-to-return-a-purchase.html

bleclair said:
Yeah, it looks pretty nice but I must have a microsd slot and I really like mini hdmi. (Hooked it up last night to a HDTV and it looks really good!)
I can't believe I read that this is actually THINNER than the iPad 2. The iPad 2 is pretty dang thin.
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So it will break even easier

Kermode said:
So it will break even easier
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Exactly. What bends more when u accidentally sit on it: a book or a playing card? Hope people get the analogy.

Don't over analyze
nebrando said:
With all the issues that seem to be plaguing the TF, would it be advantageous to wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1? I was under the impression it would have a TW overlay, but an article I read today said it is a stock Android Experience Device.
Without factoring in the Dock, should I wait for the Tab?
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Don't over analyze and worry about if I wait will I get something better. In six months all of these devices will be replaced with something better. It is the nature of the business. Decide what your currents needs are and decide what best fits your current needs. Remember these are tools nothing more.

tornadog said:
I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.
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Doesn,'t your Best Buy have a 15% restocking fee for returns?

tornadog said:
I will get the galaxy 10.1 for sure. If I like it I will keep it, else it goes back or resold depending on the market. Same goes for every gadget I buy. One of the perks of shopping at bestbuy, use for 45 days then return for full refund.
I will also be getting the htc flyer whenever that gets released but most likely will use it for a week and give it back.
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Do you do that to show off that you have the latest gadgets? Sure, technology changes quickly but that's not the reason for the return policy. I'm sure BB will figure it out soon.

Confirmed: iPad 3 has a 2048x1536 Retina Display

http://www.macrumors.com/

This is an ASUS Transformer Prime forum. Please do not post about iPads. We bought TFP's because we (or at least I,) don't care to hear about Apple constantly.

Wow, that is an insane res...
I tend to really Really dislike apple, for a multitude of reasons, but it becomes harder and harder to cling to my ways sometimes...
I mean I totally prefer everything about Android, except the fact that what makes it great is also one of its biggest challenges. Segmentation.
I thought the TFP would be the answer to the Ipad2, and possibly be able to hang with the ipad3 in terms of specs...but we all know how that is going.
Still going strong with android, still hating on apple (and admitting it)....still a closet case for their hardware and build quality.

Competition is a good thing. I posted this for all of those ATP would be owners like myself on their 3+ ATP system in pursuit of a working Prime. Instead of complaining about the ATP and cluttering up the forum, I have posted a viable solution, soon to be announced then released.
There is light at the end of the tunnel.......................trust me

taylorgrandorf said:
This is an ASUS Transformer Prime forum. Please do not post about iPads. We bought TFP's because we (or at least I,) don't care to hear about Apple constantly.
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I don't know, its interesting to hear what the competition has to offer, especially when the prime is littered with so many bugs that Asus refuses to fix, but would rather release a "fixed" version as a new model.

Even the fixed model's(TF700t) resolution pales in comparison. Back to the drawing board Asus.

AndroidPhanboy said:
I don't know, its interesting to hear what the competition has to offer especially, especially when the prime is littered with so many bugs that Asus refuses to fix, but would rather release a "fixed" version as a new model.
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My TFP is perfect, no issues here. I'm not posting constant Android news in iPad forums.

So go get an ipad3 and bounce from these forums.
COOL STORY BRO
(yeah i said it)

"A UNHAPPY owner of a 32GB Grey Asus TF201 Transformer Prime & Dock full of pre-production "Out of the box" problems returned on 2/6/12 for a full refund"
If you do not have one why are you here?
Should be interesting to see it stream video at that resolution.

taylorgrandorf said:
My TFP is perfect, no issues here. I'm not posting constant Android news in iPad forums.
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Guess your one of the lucky ones, I went through 5 primes until I gave up. I frequent these forums but never bothered posting since most of my problems were already listed, especially by users like Skygunner here.

David522d said:
So go get an ipad3 and bounce from these forums.
COOL STORY BRO
(yeah i said it)
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No need to be rude. You should have posted this pic with your post
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can we erase this post admin....
....not because we hate apple but rather because this is the Asus TF forum.

AndroidPhanboy said:
Guess your one of the lucky ones, I went through 5 primes until I gave up. I frequent these forums but never bothered posting since most of my problems were already listed, especially by users like Skygunner here.
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I'm posting an alternative to all the users constantly cluttering up these forums with negative Prime experiences. Most of you guys constantly complain about users with real problems....well here you go. It's not my fault that Apple just did a backflip over Asus.

Until Apple changes iOS.. does it really matter what the resolution is? Ironically, I can say the same about Android.. until we see "apps" to actually take advantage of the display/resolution... WHO CARES??
Oh yea, I guess it does matter to those who like to watch movies....

I dont believe it.......... They gonna run it with a dual core? I dont think so
Remember the iPhone5 with LTE and NFC and all the other BS... Guess what none happened not one thing nada...... Rumor got started from some Wall St butthole right... Gonna drive the price of Apple through the roof and bamm drop like rock and cash in on the poor sucker fanboys

JMQUINT00 said:
....not because we hate apple but rather because this is the Asus TF forum.
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True, but what better place to discuss the direct competition? Asus is coming out with a prime that runs at 1920 by 1200 if I am not mistaken, and Apple is coming out with an iPad that runs at 2043 by 1536.
Also for the previous commentor who mentioned videos, it doesn't matter as nobody would be watching content at that resolution anyways, just because the prime runs at 1920 by 1200 will you be upscaling your video to that resolution? if so thats kind of idiotic
It will definitely glide through 1080p videos though, which is what today's standard is after all.

AndroidPhanboy said:
Also for the previous commentor who mentioned videos, it doesn't matter as nobody would be watching content at that resolution anyways, just because the prime runs at 1920 by 1200 will you be upscaling your video to that resolution? if so thats kind of idiotic
It will definitely glide through 1080p videos though, which is what today's standard is after all.
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Well... 1920 X 1200 is the 1080p resolution...
Thus the benefit for those who like to watch movies.....

ilostmypistons said:
I dont believe it.......... They gonna run it with a dual core? I dont think so
Remember the iPhone5 with LTE and NFC and all the other BS... Guess what none happened not one thing nada...... Rumor got started from some Wall St butthole right... Gonna drive the price of Apple through the roof and bamm drop like rock and cash in on the poor sucker fanboys
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An A6 is in the works which is believed to be a quad core, why is it impossible for Apple to have a quad core cpu when nVidia has tegra 3? Does nvidia know some magic voodoo the rest of the tech companies are not aware of?
Also I won't lie everybody was fooled by the iPhone 5 rumors, but again that's because they believed Apple would go out of their cycle of new design then S model. With the iPad its completely different, and this is hardware were talking about, a leaked SCREEN, a physical object that is in the hands of Macrumors. So its just as legit as when the iPhone 4 was leaked by Gizmodo. Unless someone out there is making a screen for fun that is running at the rumored res of the iPad 3, I think its fair to say this is legit.

skygunner27 said:
I'm posting an alternative to all the users constantly cluttering up these forums with negative Prime experiences. Most of you guys constantly complain about users with real problems....well here you go. It's not my fault that Apple just did a backflip over Asus.
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Asus transformer prime forum talk about the God damn device or leave you're just as bad as the others in this forum

shinzz said:
Well... 1920 X 1200 is the 1080p resolution...
Thus the benefit for those who like to watch movies.....
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Um, are you sure you have your facts straight? do you even know what 1080p is? 1080p is a resolution that is defined as 1920 by 1080, the prime is running at 1920 by 1200 which is higher than that of 1080p, albeit but not that much. Also 1080p is 16:9 while 1920 b 1200 is 16:10, so expect some pretty black bars like what Apple owners have been seeing.

Question to transformer owners

I was wondering, with the edges being a bit "sharper" is it comfortable to hold for long periods of time, especially on a couch or lying down face up? I was wondering what your experiences are with this thing, especially holding it above one's head (if facing ceiling). I currently have the Galaxy Tab (the original, not 10.1), if that helps any. Either this or a Xoom...

Feels fine to me..no more uncomfortable than a book..

Comfort
I use the transformer for reading a fair amount of the time. You can either lie on your side or on your back and support your elbows on the mattress or whatever. If you have a case you can flip it and sit it on a table.
Hope this helps.

The edges, while blunt and thin, don't feel very "sharp" in the slightest bit.
The curvature of the back of the Transformer provides Siemens ergonomic function.
Holding the Transformer for long periods of time is comfortable and should not bring any complaints.
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

Don't buy Asus. Their customer support is a joke. Their software is released before proper testing. The wide form factor prevents you from using any 10.1 standard sleeves or cases. Hadn't I stupidly cracked the (unbreakable?)Gorilla glass, my tf would be owned by someone else.
If you insist on confronting Asus , buy the prime. It's amped up with a quad core tegra 3, it's much lighter and last but not least ICS runs without randomly rebooting every time the slate enters deep sleep.
Sorry for not being positive enough. I will never buy Asus ever again. OK maybe a motherboard but nothing else

Meh, I don't really care about customer support to be honest. I've learned to be my own customer support. The software issues, we got this forum for that. It's all good.

Calibrae said:
Don't buy Asus. Their customer support is a joke. Their software is released before proper testing. The wide form factor prevents you from using any 10.1 standard sleeves or cases. Hadn't I stupidly cracked the (unbreakable?)Gorilla glass, my tf would be owned by someone else.
If you insist on confronting Asus , buy the prime. It's amped up with a quad core tegra 3, it's much lighter and last but not least ICS runs without randomly rebooting every time the slate enters deep sleep.
Sorry for not being positive enough. I will never buy Asus ever again. OK maybe a motherboard but nothing else
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Why you so angry; sun?
Sorry I just saw the pic today and wanted to use it soOOooo badly.

I find the transformer quite comfortable, and with a case like the VIPERTEK Slim Leather Case Folio with Built-In Stand that I have, its even more so.

The edges are actually beveled, so its not as sharp as it might look. I read with it all the time and have no issues with holding it in portrait for extended periods of time. In landscape though the widescreen form factor makes it feel a bit clumsy, so holding it like that above your head while lying down in bed might be awkward.

Calibrae said:
Don't buy Asus. Their customer support is a joke. Their software is released before proper testing. The wide form factor prevents you from using any 10.1 standard sleeves or cases. Hadn't I stupidly cracked the (unbreakable?)Gorilla glass, my tf would be owned by someone else.
If you insist on confronting Asus , buy the prime. It's amped up with a quad core tegra 3, it's much lighter and last but not least ICS runs without randomly rebooting every time the slate enters deep sleep.
Sorry for not being positive enough. I will never buy Asus ever again. OK maybe a motherboard but nothing else
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You should thank your lucky stars you didn't buy a Lenovo K1 or Acer Iconia 500 instead. I've had issues with their support on both of those products. The Acer's screen went black after a couple of weeks of use, and Acer would not even reply to my support request in any reasonable time. Good thing it was still within return policy, so I just returned it instead. The Lenovo K1 bricked on any firmware update that touched recovery, a widespread problem for an unlucky group of more recent K1 owners across the web, but that problem is still unacknowledged to this day by Lenovo. The firmware the K1 came preinstalled with was buggy as heck and most of those problems were not resolved until an update in December. Even then, the K1 has a sleep of death issue involving the auto-brightness control since day one. Lenovo has not fixed it to this day and again doesn't even acknowledge it. Now there are grumblings in the Lenovo support forums that Lenovo is canceling any ICS update for the K1, after an ICS update had reportedly been mentioned previously by Lenovo for May and had been advertised on the product page of their online shop.
ASUS was the first to get ICS out the door for their tablets and left a few bugs, which they are working to fix. Big deal. Believe me when I say it can be alot worse.

Calibrae said:
Don't buy Asus. Their customer support is a joke. Their software is released before proper testing. The wide form factor prevents you from using any 10.1 standard sleeves or cases. Hadn't I stupidly cracked the (unbreakable?)Gorilla glass, my tf would be owned by someone else.
If you insist on confronting Asus , buy the prime. It's amped up with a quad core tegra 3, it's much lighter and last but not least ICS runs without randomly rebooting every time the slate enters deep sleep.
Sorry for not being positive enough. I will never buy Asus ever again. OK maybe a motherboard but nothing else
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The prime sucks, WiFi and GPS issues, and Asus customer support is fine. Don't listen to this guy.
The mere fact that he thinks gorilla glass is unbreakable shows he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.. and had his expectations way higher than reasonable.

Buyer's Remorse

I Just order the Transformer Infinity and then I read this article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
Apparently the Adreno 320 GPU in the upcoming APQ8064 is an absolute beast in terms of performance and frankly kicks Tegra 3 to the curb. Does anybody know how long one would have to wait for a tablet featuring this processor? I'm not sure whether to return the Infinity and wait for this seeing as how the T33 has trouble keeping up with all the pixels on the Infinity. Thoughts?

if news of this new tablet come out in the next 30 days my tf700 goes back to newegg

engadget /2012/07/24/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-pro-quad-core-dev-tablet-now-available/
Products with this chipset are already available. Note the pricetag: $1300. I can imagine that this chipset will be exclusive to Qualcomm for sometime, at least now that they are producing entire tablets. It's not likely that you'll see this chip in products from manufacturers other than Qualcomm for a while, and when you do, the price will make your wallet cringe. No buyer's remorse here.

psych2l said:
I Just order the Transformer Infinity and then I read this article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
Apparently the Adreno 320 GPU in the upcoming APQ8064 is an absolute beast in terms of performance and frankly kicks Tegra 3 to the curb. Does anybody know how long one would have to wait for a tablet featuring this processor? I'm not sure whether to return the Infinity and wait for this seeing as how the T33 has trouble keeping up with all the pixels on the Infinity. Thoughts?
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I just saw this too,but it's a 1280x800 display, and did you see the size of that thing? For that money and that bulk you can get an i5 tab with windows and far better performance. It does look promising for the future though.

psych2l said:
I Just order the Transformer Infinity and then I read this article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
Apparently the Adreno 320 GPU in the upcoming APQ8064 is an absolute beast in terms of performance and frankly kicks Tegra 3 to the curb. Does anybody know how long one would have to wait for a tablet featuring this processor? I'm not sure whether to return the Infinity and wait for this seeing as how the T33 has trouble keeping up with all the pixels on the Infinity. Thoughts?
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This is a developer tablet. Its intended for companies who build devices, not consumers. I guarantee you, you will NOT see any devices with this CPU for AT LEAST a few months... more likely than not, probably around holiday season. Besides, the Tegra 3 was in the Nexus so it'll have support for quite a while. I wouldnt worry about it.

psych2l said:
I Just order the Transformer Infinity and then I read this article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-pro-apq8064-benchmark/
Apparently the Adreno 320 GPU in the upcoming APQ8064 is an absolute beast in terms of performance and frankly kicks Tegra 3 to the curb. Does anybody know how long one would have to wait for a tablet featuring this processor? I'm not sure whether to return the Infinity and wait for this seeing as how the T33 has trouble keeping up with all the pixels on the Infinity. Thoughts?
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The T33 does not have trouble with the pixels. It's ASUS's IO problem that's causing much of the stutter (like when installing apps) and what isn't fixed by ASUS with the IO fix will be with Jelly Bean in the coming months. Just stare at your tablet's screen and admire how pretty it is and watch your buyers remorse float away. Worked for me.

Hehe ok, I'm staying strong, it's just when you see benchies like these you start to worry a bit about futureproofing your investment. I'll try to enjoy it for what it is today
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview

I hate to be that guy...but could you please use more descriptive* thread titles in the future? It'd be swell.
* As in, mention that you're talking about a competing product.

psych2l said:
Hehe ok, I'm staying strong, it's just when you see benchies like these you start to worry a bit about futureproofing your investment. I'll try to enjoy it for what it is today
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
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See, and that's the thing, people are so caught up in the next big thing, and tech moves so fast that people fail to appreciate what they do have, and don't learn all of it's features before moving on.

californiarailroader said:
See, and that's the thing, people are so caught up in the next big thing, and tech moves so fast that people fail to appreciate what they do have, and don't learn all of it's features before moving on.
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I agree, that's why I'm happy with my tablet and my phone.
Also, benchmarks are a horrible way to show which device is better. There's too many factors to why something would get a lower score.

KilerG said:
I agree, that's why I'm happy with my tablet and my phone.
Also, benchmarks are a horrible way to show which device is better. There's too many factors to why something would get a lower score.
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Exactly! Benchmarks are meant to give you an idea, a starting point, and they can often be skewed to make the device being tested better than it is. Like my Nexus 7, it is scoring lower right now, but that's because it's running Jelly Bean and programs like Quadrant haven't caught up to that yet. I guess if you're wealthy, you can change devices weekly, me, I'm just Middle Class, aka an Endangered Species
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By the way, want to buy an extra, brand new TF700? Lol I got the replacement from Amazon today, so now I have the one from Best Buy running and this, I should probably send it back, but having two might be good for development, arrgghhh, what to do?!

KilerG said:
Also, benchmarks are a horrible way to show which device is better. There's too many factors to why something would get a lower score.
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This. When the Atrix got CM7, it increased the score in quadrant compared to the stock rom by a little over 1,000 points. It felt smoother, yes, but not drastically smoother. If something works fine, why bother with stupid meaningless numbers? Devices with this processor coming out in ~6 months dont make the Tegra 3 any less of a slouch.

californiarailroader said:
See, and that's the thing, people are so caught up in the next big thing, and tech moves so fast that people fail to appreciate what they do have, and don't learn all of it's features before moving on.
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+1 -- Moore's Law and so on. If you wait to buy better, you'll end up in your grave (or any other location, in any desired way, shape or form) before having bought anything. (Same for goes for not buying a device having 'issues'.)

MartyHulskemper said:
+1 -- Moore's Law and so on. If you wait to buy better, you'll end up in your grave (or any other location, in any desired way, shape or form) before having bought anything. (Same for goes for not buying a device having 'issues'.)
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Well said Marty!

As soon as we get an unlock tool from Asus I'll appreciate my 700 much more.
This thing will fly with cm10.
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humdrum2009 said:
As soon as we get an unlock tool from Asus I'll appreciate my 700 much more.
This thing will fly with cm10.
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Unlock tool now available on Asus' site!
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If you wait a month or two you can almost certainly get a better tablet for the money. But then when you find that tablet and you are ready to buy it, you could then wait another month or so for the next tablet. Then when its out...get where I'm going? Buy the tablet, enjoy the tablet, if something comes out and you can still return, then hell go for it and buy the next greatest thing. There will ALWAYS be the next best thing around the corner.

Yeah... I'll put my money on a MINIMUM of 6 months, before we see a consumer product that sports this new hardware.
That's the perils of staying on the bleeding edge... by the time something finally comes to market, something ELSE is already being announced. It is what it is.

psych2l said:
Hehe ok, I'm staying strong, it's just when you see benchies like these you start to worry a bit about futureproofing your investment. I'll try to enjoy it for what it is today
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I don't think that you can see the difference of 97 and 251 FPS with a naked eye. No device is future proof.

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I don't think that you can see the difference of 97 and 251 FPS with a naked eye. No device is future proof.
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Especially not on a screen that is only physically capable of rendering 60 frames per second.

should i wait for nvidia 2?

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i am thinking in buy nvidia shield, but im afraid do you think they will sell nvidia 2 on this year? i dont want to buy nvidia 1 if nvidia 2 come out in next months

I'm in the same boat. Nvidia hasn't announced anything yet, but they are definitely working on it and it's going to pack the k1, which could be very interesting.

If you don't already have one, I'd wait to see more details on the k1 model. I mean the Nvidia Shield 1 isn't getting any more expensive....so worst case scenario you can just buy the Nvidia Shiel 1 cheaper.

Ya, i gonna wait for nvidia shield 2 or get a cheap shield 1
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I picked mine up on Swappa for a very reasonable price, might check there. Personally I use mine quite a lot and will probably upgrade if it has a enough of a benefit over the current gen.

there some far more interesting android devices cheaper than the shield if its for streaming games. now that we have limelight and splashtop running smooth:
http://obscurehandhelds.com/
Much i5 has dual sim great controls and an ips screen, im planning on buying the i5s version
http://obscurehandhelds.com/?p=2311

But even shield 1 with tegra 4 is already too much for android games...
If shield 2 will have 1080p it will be a big flop, because 1080p won't give anything to 5 inch screen, but drain the battery.
Shield 2 will be interesting only if:
720p
Better battery
250$
Less heavy
Maybe 5.5 inch screen

sf3 said:
But even shield 1 with tegra 4 is already too much for android games...
If shield 2 will have 1080p it will be a big flop, because 1080p won't give anything to 5 inch screen, but drain the battery.
Shield 2 will be interesting only if:
720p
Better battery
250$
Less heavy
Maybe 5.5 inch screen
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Or if they make the shield be their first handset, where the screen detaches as a phone. Mind blown.

It has been my personal experience with technology that it really does not matter if you have the fastest gadget. I always wait six months to a year to buy new tech because the price is always cut in half
the current Nvidia Shield can run EVERYTHING on android at FULL SPEED as far as I know.

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I just want a better dpad. Something that uses a real cross pattern instead of a circle.

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I just want a better dpad. Something that uses a real cross pattern instead of a circle.
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I really like the hat-top Dpad that's on the Shield. I just dislike that it slides around.
It's miles better than some designs that just glue silicon feet to the Dpad and just stick it in there. ( I'm looking at you iControlpad )
I found a picture of what that looks like. Terrible design.:
But really, if it just had that fancy Dpad from the new xbox 360 controllers, (not sure if the Xbone does it) the one that you can twist up for a Plus pad, or twist down for a Hat top. I would not only enjoy using it because it's an extremely sturdy design, but it also fits the needs of any accustomed gamer, like yourself who prefers the Cross/Plus pad.
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They could actually make room for an ethernet port or even a secondary microusb port. (so that you dont have to fiddle (or even have to find)) an usb otg Y cable..
If not, they should really include those cables in the box (ethernet-usb, micro hdmi converter, usb otg y cable, ..)
I also agree with the DPad being a little less good
and I could also live with a slightly larger screen
For the rest, this thing is perfect!
also.. the analog sticks can make quite some noise when they hit the plastic.. which can hinder my girlfriend's sleep at night sometimes ^^ (i dont think the xbox or ps3 controller have the same "loudness" on that aspect..) but this is offcourse just a minor issue

For me I would like a thinner design and a possibly better quality screen. Though I would definitely not want any of those at the cost of it's amazing standby/battery life.
Would love to eventually be able to dual boot android and a window os

16 gigs of internal memory seems really slim. I don't know why 32 or even 64 couldn't have been chosen instead. I can't imagine the price being raised that much in return. Vibration would have been great too.
I mainly use the shield for emulation though. So I just wish there was a better N64 Android emulator than mupen. I don't think its a lack of shield capability though. Just not enough advancement in the android development community.

Check your local craigslists. The $200 retail price drop has encouraged alot of people in my area to list their Shields at $110-$140, and at that price I think it'd be a great deal even if a Shield 2 came out soon. The Shield has high enough build quality where I wouldn't feel sheepish buying one secondhand from a responsible owner.
I love the Shield but it needs a larger screen. The bezel is gigantic by modern standards and while I love virtually every other aspect of the Shield I still feel my shoulders sink a little when I flip it up to see that tiny 5 inch screen and a big ol' bezel.
What I wish Nvidia would release is a proper 7 or 8 inch gaming tablet up to the same standards as the Shield, not another controller with a flip up screen... But that's just me. I imagine there's room enough in the market for Nvidia to offer both devices though, a gaming tablet and a controller-with-a-screen format like the Shield... Maybe even a Xperia Play successor gaming phone.

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16 gigs of internal memory seems really slim. I don't know why 32 or even 64 couldn't have been chosen instead. I can't imagine the price being raised that much in return. Vibration would have been great too.
I mainly use the shield for emulation though. So I just wish there was a better N64 Android emulator than mupen. I don't think its a lack of shield capability though. Just not enough advancement in the android development community.
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bonapartist said:
Check your local craigslists. The $200 retail price drop has encouraged alot of people in my area to list their Shields at $110-$140, and at that price I think it'd be a great deal even if a Shield 2 came out soon. The Shield has high enough build quality where I wouldn't feel sheepish buying one secondhand from a responsible owner.
I love the Shield but it needs a larger screen. The bezel is gigantic by modern standards and while I love virtually every other aspect of the Shield I still feel my shoulders sink a little when I flip it up to see that tiny 5 inch screen and a big ol' bezel.
What I wish Nvidia would release is a proper 7 or 8 inch gaming tablet up to the same standards as the Shield, not another controller with a flip up screen... But that's just me. I imagine there's room enough in the market for Nvidia to offer both devices though, a gaming tablet and a controller-with-a-screen format like the Shield... Maybe even a Xperia Play successor gaming phone.
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I already have a 10" tablet but I really prefer the flip up screen on the Shield.
That said 5" is too small to enjoy PC games. For emulators its fine.
Shield 2 needs to have at least a 6" screen if I am going to consider purchasing it. 6.5" would be better. Making this fit on a controller will be an impressive design feat, but I feel its necessary to enjoy modern (non mobile) games.

There isn't plans for a shield 2.
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Sources? I'd bet they are going to follow up with another device. No reason not to.