Hi all,
I'm a little confused with rooting and updating, tried searching and still not certain.
I am not unlocked, don't really want to, and am rooted on 4.0.1. I had earlier rooted and used OTA Rootkeeper and then loaded .23 but then I could not get root back.
I put .30 ICS on and am again rooted. I guess I can only do OTA's to keep root? Despite that being in the name of Rootkeeper I was under the impression it kept it regardless.
One problem I was having that led me to load firmware manually was that this new tablet has the 'check update' function greyed out under the firmware update section.
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
carpboy said:
Hi all,
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
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Yes if my understanding is correct but i could be wrong
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carpboy said:
Hi all,
I'm a little confused with rooting and updating, tried searching and still not certain.
I am not unlocked, don't really want to, and am rooted on 4.0.1. I had earlier rooted and used OTA Rootkeeper and then loaded .23 but then I could not get root back.
I put .30 ICS on and am again rooted. I guess I can only do OTA's to keep root? Despite that being in the name of Rootkeeper I was under the impression it kept it regardless.
One problem I was having that led me to load firmware manually was that this new tablet has the 'check update' function greyed out under the firmware update section.
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
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If using OTA, you need to install OTA root keeper to save root then after the upgrade you then restore root with the OTA root keeper app. If you unable to update through OTA, you could use dlpkgfile to upgrade, again use OTA to preserve and restore root. If you flash the full firmware from Asus, it's going to wipe out your root and you have to go back to ICS .30 version to re root again.
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He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
hemanbond said:
He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
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Wiping won't unroot I don't think, but root should not affect the update. You will lose it when you update, but there will probably be a way we can make some changes before the update to avoid that.
The supercharger script might be an issue but probably not. It should have an option to unsupercharge anyways, but you should be fine without it.
The update will check to make sure you have not deleted any of the bloat that is not removable without root. so if you have done that your best bet would be to fxz back to stock if it will not update.
Nopes....didnt remove any bloatware....ok so wont that brick my phone as uts rooted...i read somwhere in xda forum that an atrix 2 was soft bricked because the guy rooted
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
Fall of Enosis said:
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
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that won't work for the ICS update. at least with the leaked international ones. No it won't brick you, you will just loose your root. If you wan't the updated to stay rooted, don't do it right away and give us a few days to figure out how to keep it.
Even if you did softbrick you could almost certainly fxz back to stock.
Thanx alot sir..... i wont update until an official update or till we get a fully working ics custom....no hurries
If this has already been asked/answered I apologize but I am new to these forums. I recently purchased an HTC One S and have rooted it. My question is will I still receive software updates for the phone such as if Jellybean or HTC sense updates were to be rolled out for the device?
pistl_pete said:
If this has already been asked/answered I apologize but I am new to these forums. I recently purchased an HTC One S and have rooted it. My question is will I still receive software updates for the phone such as if Jellybean or HTC sense updates were to be rolled out for the device?
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My understanding is that you can still receive OTA updates as long as you don't change the ROM. Though, I could be mistaken.
Root only is fine. You must not have modified the ROM in anyway, ie deleting "bloatware". You must also retain the stock recovery.
Remember you will loose "root" with OTA update. You could use OTA RootKeeper or re-root afterward.
baseballfanz said:
Root only is fine. You must not have modified the ROM in anyway, ie deleting "bloatware". You must also retain the stock recovery.
Remember you will loose "root" with OTA update. You could use OTA RootKeeper or re-root afterward.
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Well after the root I downloaded titanium and uninstalled a bunch of the apps that the phone came with which I had no use for. I was unaware that OTA updates will cause me to loose "root". What exactly is OTA RootKeeper
pistl_pete said:
Well after the root I downloaded titanium and uninstalled a bunch of the apps that the phone came with which I had no use for. I was unaware that OTA updates will cause me to loose "root". What exactly is OTA RootKeeper
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OTA RootKeeper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
You can run the T-mobile RUU to get back to totally stock if you have deleted some apps.
Hi folks.
I've just bought an Infinity. When booting it for the time, I updated it to Jelly bean. Now I'd like to know how can I root it? Unfortunately the debugfs method does not work anymore. So am I stuck ?
Thanks.
I have the same issue!
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You will have to wait for a new method to come out which may be a while. At this time if you lose root or have not rooted prior to JB you cannot get it back.
slainer68 said:
Hi folks.
I've just bought an Infinity. When booting it for the time, I updated it to Jelly bean. Now I'd like to know how can I root it? Unfortunately the debugfs method does not work anymore. So am I stuck ?
Thanks.
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Yes, you are stuck. You will either have to develop a root method yourself or wait for someone else to do it for you unless you are willing to unlock. If you unlock, you should be able to flash alternate ROMs, etc, the sky's the limit. Be aware though, if you unlock, you will void your warranty and will not be able get OTAs. Flashing ROMs also comes with a certain amount of risk (especially w/out nvflash which you can't get since you upgraded).
Return it if you can. With the new one, Root and save with Voodoo OTA First, then run the JB update. It may be a long time before someone develops a root method for JB. The TF300 has been on JB for a while now and still no Root solution.
micaman said:
Return it if you can. With the new one, Root and save with Voodoo OTA First, then run the JB update. It may be a long time before someone develops a root method for JB. The TF300 has been on JB for a while now and still no Root solution.
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I think that's the best recommendation to the OP. Cause there's no telling when a native JB root solution will come. Especially since all the Devs are already rooted.
For anyone who has not applied JB yet, this is one thread you'd want to read before applying that update: Last chance to root.
micaman said:
Return it if you can. With the new one, Root and save with Voodoo OTA First, then run the JB update. It may be a long time before someone develops a root method for JB. The TF300 has been on JB for a while now and still no Root solution.
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Its sad but it is the Best option imo. Its a damn shame that asus ( and others ) have to go so far out of there damn way to stop root.
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i did the voodoo ota rootkeeper. it says I have root but when I try and open titanium backup, it doesn't work. any solutions?
I had an issue with the device at first with es File explorer. Had to install newer beta version of superUser and that fixed it. I have SU 3.1 installed now and all is working fine.
I found a jellybean root exploit in another thread I'll see if I can adapt it to work on the infinity. No guarantees though. I'm sure we'll be able to get this wild beast to submit once more!... eventually.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915598
might as well try downgrading if your just going to return it anyway.
dopapifreak34 said:
i did the voodoo ota rootkeeper. it says I have root but when I try and open titanium backup, it doesn't work. any solutions?
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Are you using Superuser or Supersu? SuperSu is better in JB in my experience. Anyway open it and have it forget Titanium. Then open TB again and grant access.
you dont have to wait. you can downgrade to .30 update root it. and upgrade and use vooodoo OTA root keeper to root JB
Downgrade, root, then upgrade to JB again.
[TIP] Downgrade from JB to 0.30 works!
I am doing an incremental update of my tablet and I need to know what the chronological order of the updates where. My tablst came with 9.4.5.26 and I see references to .16, ,18, .30 etc. Which ones do I need before I can do the 10.4.4.20 update. I'm not sure but I believe I should do the .30 next. If so can I use the WW.30 update because the thread I am using to do this only offers it and not a US.30. Still new and do not know the difference, if there is one.
lartomar2002 said:
I am doing an incremental update of my tablet and I need to know what the chronological order of the updates where. My tablst came with 9.4.5.26 and I see references to .16, ,18, .30 etc. Which ones do I need before I can do the 10.4.4.20 update. I'm not sure but I believe I should do the .30 next. If so can I use the WW.30 update because the thread I am using to do this only offers it and not a US.30. Still new and do not know the difference, if there is one.
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The order is .30, .16, .18, then .20. Incremental is nessessary to retain root. If you unlocked, you could flash the full version .20 and done.
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The order is .30, .16, .18, then .20. Incremental is nessessary to retain root. If you unlocked, you could flash the full version .20 and done.
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Thank you, how about using the ww.30 update is that okay? There is not a link to a US .30 update. Do not want to unlock at this time I unlocked my first TF700 and rooted it but when I tried to setup NVflash I ended up bricking it. Thankfully I was still with in the 30 day Amazon return period so they sent me a new one. I am now out of the return period with this one and if I brick it now all I will have is a $479.00 door stop. Not only that but I will have to put up with my wife's outrage.
lartomar2002 said:
Thank you, how about using the ww.30 update is that okay? There is not a link to a US .30 update.
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OTA updates must be done on the same SKU - if you start with an US firmware, you must continue with US dlkpkgs.
lartomar2002 said:
Thank you, how about using the ww.30 update is that okay? There is not a link to a US .30 update. Do not want to unlock at this time I unlocked my first TF700 and rooted it but when I tried to setup NVflash I ended up bricking it. Thankfully I was still with in the 30 day Amazon return period so they sent me a new one. I am now out of the return period with this one and if I brick it now all I will have is a $479.00 door stop. Not only that but I will have to put up with my wife's outrage.
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Haha, but if you unlock, you wife will be a lot happier!! Actually, unlock is very safe and even less risk than rooting. Either it works or just fails. With the poor performance of the tf700, it's a huge different if you unlock and install Cleanrom. Anyway, you don't do .30 incremental update and no, you can't use WW instead of US. Since there is no US file, you should do a Full version update then do root and then do incremental from there on. Here is link for full .30.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734005
buhohitr said:
Haha, but if you unlock, you wife will be a lot happier!! Actually, unlock is very safe and even less risk than rooting. Either it works or just fails. With the poor performance of the tf700, it's a huge different if you unlock and install Cleanrom. Anyway, you don't do .30 incremental update and no, you can't use WW instead of US. Since there is no US file, you should do a Full version update then do root and then do incremental from there on. Here is link for full .30.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734005
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I am rooted using Debug's (?) tool. can I just go ahead and unlock while rooted, will I need to use the OTA Root Keeper?
I forgot to add the cost of the dock into that price so it would be a $600 door stop. Even more rage, OUCH!
Also, in the thread I am using for the incremental updates say's I have to use a "dlpkg" file is that different from the regular firmware?
lartomar2002 said:
I am doing an incremental update of my tablet and I need to know what the chronological order of the updates where. My tablst came with 9.4.5.26 and I see references to .16, ,18, .30 etc. Which ones do I need before I can do the 10.4.4.20 update. I'm not sure but I believe I should do the .30 next. If so can I use the WW.30 update because the thread I am using to do this only offers it and not a US.30. Still new and do not know the difference, if there is one.
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My tablet came with US 4.xx.xx.20 JB and flashed US 9.xx.xx.30 ICS by renaming zip file and copy to root of sd. Did this so I can root ICS. After I downgraded I was prompted with OTA to JB 4.xx.xx.20. I rooted first of course and installed OTA rootkeeper and after the OTA finished I restored root via OTA rootkeeper and didnt have any issue with jumping straight to JB .20. Although I hated JB on the tf700 as it caused so much lag so I flashed back to ICS .30 which is the only version that will work via micro sd card method.
I'm wondering why the need for incremental upgrade?
lartomar2002 said:
I am rooted using Debug's (?) tool. can I just go ahead and unlock while rooted, will I need to use the OTA Root Keeper?
I forgot to add the cost of the dock into that price so it would be a $600 door stop. Even more rage, OUCH!
Also, in the thread I am using for the incremental updates say's I have to use a "dlpkg" file is that different from the regular firmware?
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Yes, it's the best way while you already rooted, then unlock. Once you unlocked, it's very simple to do the rest. Just install custom recovery (TWRP) using Goomanager app from the market, then use this to flash prerooted rom like Cleanrom/kernel etc...
The most common mistake ppl bricked their devices was flashing the wrong recovery or using wrong tool to flash recovery. Other wise is pretty much brick proof.
dlpkg file is incremental update, it will not wipe your stuff (same as OTA update) and you could preserve root with Rootkeeper. Firmware download from Asus site is a full rom upgrade, which will wipe everything before upgrade, included root, apps etc...
Rooting is not really help with tf700 performance issue. I recommend you should unlock then life is beautiful after that.....
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aznmode said:
My tablet came with US 4.xx.xx.20 JB and flashed US 9.xx.xx.30 ICS by renaming zip file and copy to root of sd. Did this so I can root ICS. After I downgraded I was prompted with OTA to JB 4.xx.xx.20. I rooted first of course and installed OTA rootkeeper and after the OTA finished I restored root via OTA rootkeeper and didnt have any issue with jumping straight to JB .20. Although I hated JB on the tf700 as it caused so much lag so I flashed back to ICS .30 which is the only version that will work via micro sd card method.
I'm wondering why the need for incremental upgrade?
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In your case, you already have everything installed (JB 20), like JB boot loader, drivers, firmware etc.. So when you downgrade, most of the stuff remain in your tablet (JB bootloader remain intact etc..). People that never upgrade before and they only at .30, the right way is to upgrade one version at a time, this ensure you don't miss anything.
Good to know. Thanks
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Hello,
Bit confused what to do. I have brand new TF700T ICS 4.0.3 and I think I would benefit with rooted device. But what to do first? Update to JB and then root or root and update? I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212 so I would like to use the NvFlash before I start flashing... Is there any catch?
Please help...
Otas
otas78 said:
Hello,
Bit confused what to do. I have brand new TF700T ICS 4.0.3 and I think I would benefit with rooted device. But what to do first? Update to JB and then root or root and update? I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212 so I would like to use the NvFlash before I start flashing... Is there any catch?
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You first have to decide if you want to void your manufacturer warranty by unlocking the boot loader (so that you can install custom ROMs). You do not need to unlock the boot loader if you only want to root it.
However, once you upgrade to JellyBean, you won't be able to install NVFlash any more, so if you are planning to unlock it in the near future, you should seriously consider doing it now, and then install NVFlash.
If you decide to unlock, there's no problem in rooting it afterwards. If you decide NOT to unlock, but still want to root, you should do so BEFORE you upgrade to JellyBean, as there's currently no way to root a JellyBean installation on the TF700 (if you install JellyBean without root, you'll have to downgrade to ICS to root, and then upgrade to JellyBean again).
As you can see, it all depends on what you want to do with your device - now and in the future. There's no way to know if it'll be possible in the future to install NVFlash on a JB installation, but once you have installed JB, you CANNOT install NVFlash - not even if you roll back to ICS. So you have to decide if you want NVFlash or not, and if so, you need to unlock it while on ICS and proceed from there.
If you want to keep the locked bootloader and warranty: First, root it. Look for the tutorial here in the Forum, it's very easy, should be something like "Root with debugfs".
Then, download OTA Rootkeeper from the Market (Google Play). Use it to protect your root.
Afterwards, you can either try the normal OTA Update (Didn't work for me, too big of a jump), or follow the following tutorial to update from one revision to the next. (So you've gotta update around 4-5 times in total to get to the newest JB revision).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926147
How to update to JB and keep root (Locked Bootloader)
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ZeDroid said:
If you want to keep the locked bootloader and warranty: First, root it. Look for the tutorial here in the Forum, it's very easy, should be something like "Root with debugfs".
Then, download OTA Rootkeeper from the Market (Google Play). Use it to protect your root.
Afterwards, you can either try the normal OTA Update (Didn't work for me, too big of a jump), or follow the following tutorial to update from one revision to the next. (So you've gotta update around 4-5 times in total to get to the newest JB revision).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926147
How to update to JB and keep root (Locked Bootloader)
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So I see.
Option 1) Rooted only and keep warranty - can't flash it.
Option 2) Root and unlock, lost warranty but be able to flash it. For this I need unlock the bootloader. And I would need to unlock to bootloader to install NvFlash, is it right?
What will be your recommendation? Do I need to flash it? The use would be recreational (internet/video/games) and travel laptop.
Otas
I personally didn't flash mine, at the moment I just don't need it. Should be fine for you to, why don't you try root & locked bootloader first?
You can always unlock the bootloader later on, but you can't "relock" it
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ZeDroid said:
I personally didn't flash mine, at the moment I just don't need it. Should be fine for you to, why don't you try root & locked bootloader first?
You can always unlock the bootloader later on, but you can't "relock" it
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The only reason why I would be considering to unlock it NOW is the NvFlash. Because I definitely want to update to JB.
otas78 said:
Hello,
Bit confused what to do.
Otas
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Well you could always just use it for a day or two before you risk blowing it up.
Any manufacturing problems with it?
How familiar with the ins-outs of rooting\flashing are you?
If relatively new read then read some more.
The chances of a brick are low...then again you never know for sure.
Good luck...
So I did rooted using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588 and all went well and I was told that the device is rooted.
Then I installed JB OTA no issues.
But now OTA Rootkeeper is telling me that I'm not rooted??!! What is going on?
otas78 said:
So I did rooted using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588 and all went well and I was told that the device is rooted.
Then I installed JB OTA no issues.
But now OTA Rootkeeper is telling me that I'm not rooted??!! What is going on?
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Did you actually backup your root using OTA Rootkeeper?
Did you protect the root with OTA Rootkeeper? Otherwise you just lost it....
You should be able to downgrade to ICS and root again following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925230
7786 said:
Did you actually backup your root using OTA Rootkeeper?
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I see, f*** I updated before the I downloaded the OTE Rootkeeper. Any way out of it?
See my post on the first page. And guys, please don't do Full Quotes, we all know what you're replying to
Thank's I saw it later, looking to downgrade now.
So I downgraded already twice, run the OTA Rootkeeper, got the message that SU protected, run the JB update, run the OTA Rootkeeper again and no protected SU available... Where am I doing it wrong?
How exactly are you updating to JB? Per OTA?
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Yes, per OTA
Strange. Did you try the update files from the thread I linked previously? (in my first post) The OTA never worked for me, so I used those.
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Didn't need to because the OTA came on always automatically as soon as I rebooted. So I let it run.
I think I'm doing something wrong with the OTA Rootkeeper because it will not give me option to temp un-root...
Do you have Superuser installed? If not, try to install it from the Market, it will show you if you really got root.
From my perspective it sounds like you don't actually have root or just no application to control root.
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