He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
hemanbond said:
He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
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Wiping won't unroot I don't think, but root should not affect the update. You will lose it when you update, but there will probably be a way we can make some changes before the update to avoid that.
The supercharger script might be an issue but probably not. It should have an option to unsupercharge anyways, but you should be fine without it.
The update will check to make sure you have not deleted any of the bloat that is not removable without root. so if you have done that your best bet would be to fxz back to stock if it will not update.
Nopes....didnt remove any bloatware....ok so wont that brick my phone as uts rooted...i read somwhere in xda forum that an atrix 2 was soft bricked because the guy rooted
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
Fall of Enosis said:
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
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that won't work for the ICS update. at least with the leaked international ones. No it won't brick you, you will just loose your root. If you wan't the updated to stay rooted, don't do it right away and give us a few days to figure out how to keep it.
Even if you did softbrick you could almost certainly fxz back to stock.
Thanx alot sir..... i wont update until an official update or till we get a fully working ics custom....no hurries
I am doing an incremental update of my tablet and I need to know what the chronological order of the updates where. My tablst came with 9.4.5.26 and I see references to .16, ,18, .30 etc. Which ones do I need before I can do the 10.4.4.20 update. I'm not sure but I believe I should do the .30 next. If so can I use the WW.30 update because the thread I am using to do this only offers it and not a US.30. Still new and do not know the difference, if there is one.
lartomar2002 said:
I am doing an incremental update of my tablet and I need to know what the chronological order of the updates where. My tablst came with 9.4.5.26 and I see references to .16, ,18, .30 etc. Which ones do I need before I can do the 10.4.4.20 update. I'm not sure but I believe I should do the .30 next. If so can I use the WW.30 update because the thread I am using to do this only offers it and not a US.30. Still new and do not know the difference, if there is one.
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The order is .30, .16, .18, then .20. Incremental is nessessary to retain root. If you unlocked, you could flash the full version .20 and done.
buhohitr said:
The order is .30, .16, .18, then .20. Incremental is nessessary to retain root. If you unlocked, you could flash the full version .20 and done.
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Thank you, how about using the ww.30 update is that okay? There is not a link to a US .30 update. Do not want to unlock at this time I unlocked my first TF700 and rooted it but when I tried to setup NVflash I ended up bricking it. Thankfully I was still with in the 30 day Amazon return period so they sent me a new one. I am now out of the return period with this one and if I brick it now all I will have is a $479.00 door stop. Not only that but I will have to put up with my wife's outrage.
lartomar2002 said:
Thank you, how about using the ww.30 update is that okay? There is not a link to a US .30 update.
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OTA updates must be done on the same SKU - if you start with an US firmware, you must continue with US dlkpkgs.
lartomar2002 said:
Thank you, how about using the ww.30 update is that okay? There is not a link to a US .30 update. Do not want to unlock at this time I unlocked my first TF700 and rooted it but when I tried to setup NVflash I ended up bricking it. Thankfully I was still with in the 30 day Amazon return period so they sent me a new one. I am now out of the return period with this one and if I brick it now all I will have is a $479.00 door stop. Not only that but I will have to put up with my wife's outrage.
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Haha, but if you unlock, you wife will be a lot happier!! Actually, unlock is very safe and even less risk than rooting. Either it works or just fails. With the poor performance of the tf700, it's a huge different if you unlock and install Cleanrom. Anyway, you don't do .30 incremental update and no, you can't use WW instead of US. Since there is no US file, you should do a Full version update then do root and then do incremental from there on. Here is link for full .30.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734005
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Haha, but if you unlock, you wife will be a lot happier!! Actually, unlock is very safe and even less risk than rooting. Either it works or just fails. With the poor performance of the tf700, it's a huge different if you unlock and install Cleanrom. Anyway, you don't do .30 incremental update and no, you can't use WW instead of US. Since there is no US file, you should do a Full version update then do root and then do incremental from there on. Here is link for full .30.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734005
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I am rooted using Debug's (?) tool. can I just go ahead and unlock while rooted, will I need to use the OTA Root Keeper?
I forgot to add the cost of the dock into that price so it would be a $600 door stop. Even more rage, OUCH!
Also, in the thread I am using for the incremental updates say's I have to use a "dlpkg" file is that different from the regular firmware?
lartomar2002 said:
I am doing an incremental update of my tablet and I need to know what the chronological order of the updates where. My tablst came with 9.4.5.26 and I see references to .16, ,18, .30 etc. Which ones do I need before I can do the 10.4.4.20 update. I'm not sure but I believe I should do the .30 next. If so can I use the WW.30 update because the thread I am using to do this only offers it and not a US.30. Still new and do not know the difference, if there is one.
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My tablet came with US 4.xx.xx.20 JB and flashed US 9.xx.xx.30 ICS by renaming zip file and copy to root of sd. Did this so I can root ICS. After I downgraded I was prompted with OTA to JB 4.xx.xx.20. I rooted first of course and installed OTA rootkeeper and after the OTA finished I restored root via OTA rootkeeper and didnt have any issue with jumping straight to JB .20. Although I hated JB on the tf700 as it caused so much lag so I flashed back to ICS .30 which is the only version that will work via micro sd card method.
I'm wondering why the need for incremental upgrade?
lartomar2002 said:
I am rooted using Debug's (?) tool. can I just go ahead and unlock while rooted, will I need to use the OTA Root Keeper?
I forgot to add the cost of the dock into that price so it would be a $600 door stop. Even more rage, OUCH!
Also, in the thread I am using for the incremental updates say's I have to use a "dlpkg" file is that different from the regular firmware?
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Yes, it's the best way while you already rooted, then unlock. Once you unlocked, it's very simple to do the rest. Just install custom recovery (TWRP) using Goomanager app from the market, then use this to flash prerooted rom like Cleanrom/kernel etc...
The most common mistake ppl bricked their devices was flashing the wrong recovery or using wrong tool to flash recovery. Other wise is pretty much brick proof.
dlpkg file is incremental update, it will not wipe your stuff (same as OTA update) and you could preserve root with Rootkeeper. Firmware download from Asus site is a full rom upgrade, which will wipe everything before upgrade, included root, apps etc...
Rooting is not really help with tf700 performance issue. I recommend you should unlock then life is beautiful after that.....
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My tablet came with US 4.xx.xx.20 JB and flashed US 9.xx.xx.30 ICS by renaming zip file and copy to root of sd. Did this so I can root ICS. After I downgraded I was prompted with OTA to JB 4.xx.xx.20. I rooted first of course and installed OTA rootkeeper and after the OTA finished I restored root via OTA rootkeeper and didnt have any issue with jumping straight to JB .20. Although I hated JB on the tf700 as it caused so much lag so I flashed back to ICS .30 which is the only version that will work via micro sd card method.
I'm wondering why the need for incremental upgrade?
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In your case, you already have everything installed (JB 20), like JB boot loader, drivers, firmware etc.. So when you downgrade, most of the stuff remain in your tablet (JB bootloader remain intact etc..). People that never upgrade before and they only at .30, the right way is to upgrade one version at a time, this ensure you don't miss anything.
Good to know. Thanks
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Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.
OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.
rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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Hi all,
I'm a little confused with rooting and updating, tried searching and still not certain.
I am not unlocked, don't really want to, and am rooted on 4.0.1. I had earlier rooted and used OTA Rootkeeper and then loaded .23 but then I could not get root back.
I put .30 ICS on and am again rooted. I guess I can only do OTA's to keep root? Despite that being in the name of Rootkeeper I was under the impression it kept it regardless.
One problem I was having that led me to load firmware manually was that this new tablet has the 'check update' function greyed out under the firmware update section.
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
carpboy said:
Hi all,
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
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Yes if my understanding is correct but i could be wrong
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carpboy said:
Hi all,
I'm a little confused with rooting and updating, tried searching and still not certain.
I am not unlocked, don't really want to, and am rooted on 4.0.1. I had earlier rooted and used OTA Rootkeeper and then loaded .23 but then I could not get root back.
I put .30 ICS on and am again rooted. I guess I can only do OTA's to keep root? Despite that being in the name of Rootkeeper I was under the impression it kept it regardless.
One problem I was having that led me to load firmware manually was that this new tablet has the 'check update' function greyed out under the firmware update section.
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
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If using OTA, you need to install OTA root keeper to save root then after the upgrade you then restore root with the OTA root keeper app. If you unable to update through OTA, you could use dlpkgfile to upgrade, again use OTA to preserve and restore root. If you flash the full firmware from Asus, it's going to wipe out your root and you have to go back to ICS .30 version to re root again.
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I cant stop reading about people losing root with these OTA updates and was wondering if I can freeze the OTA update process in TiBu or any other way to not except the OTA. Im new to samsung and not sure how they work, been on my HTC thunderbolt for 2 years and now working on my DNA, but I dont have problems with OTA's being forced onto my phone devices.Of course both my thunderbolt and DNA and/are rooted s-off. Is it different with tablet OTA's?+
MrLoompa said:
I cant stop reading about people losing root with these OTA updates and was wondering if I can freeze the OTA update process in TiBu or any other way to not except the OTA. Im new to samsung and not sure how they work, been on my HTC thunderbolt for 2 years and now working on my DNA, but I dont have problems with OTA's being forced onto my phone devices.Of course both my thunderbolt and DNA and/are rooted s-off. Is it different with tablet OTA's?+
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Root can prevent OTA updates installing leading to a failed/ part install .Far better to use Kies then reroot .That is if you have to update me i never update unless the update is really worth while . Freeze OTA in TB yes i think so not 100% sure as i rip the FOTA apk out of the rom before installing .
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MrLoompa said:
I cant stop reading about people losing root with these OTA updates and was wondering if I can freeze the OTA update process in TiBu or any other way to not except the OTA. Im new to samsung and not sure how they work, been on my HTC thunderbolt for 2 years and now working on my DNA, but I dont have problems with OTA's being forced onto my phone devices.Of course both my thunderbolt and DNA and/are rooted s-off. Is it different with tablet OTA's?+
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Turn it off. Settings ,about device software update
I just firewall'd the updater, so it's unable to download them.
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