[Q] OTA updates - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I cant stop reading about people losing root with these OTA updates and was wondering if I can freeze the OTA update process in TiBu or any other way to not except the OTA. Im new to samsung and not sure how they work, been on my HTC thunderbolt for 2 years and now working on my DNA, but I dont have problems with OTA's being forced onto my phone devices.Of course both my thunderbolt and DNA and/are rooted s-off. Is it different with tablet OTA's?+

MrLoompa said:
I cant stop reading about people losing root with these OTA updates and was wondering if I can freeze the OTA update process in TiBu or any other way to not except the OTA. Im new to samsung and not sure how they work, been on my HTC thunderbolt for 2 years and now working on my DNA, but I dont have problems with OTA's being forced onto my phone devices.Of course both my thunderbolt and DNA and/are rooted s-off. Is it different with tablet OTA's?+
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Root can prevent OTA updates installing leading to a failed/ part install .Far better to use Kies then reroot .That is if you have to update me i never update unless the update is really worth while . Freeze OTA in TB yes i think so not 100% sure as i rip the FOTA apk out of the rom before installing .
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MrLoompa said:
I cant stop reading about people losing root with these OTA updates and was wondering if I can freeze the OTA update process in TiBu or any other way to not except the OTA. Im new to samsung and not sure how they work, been on my HTC thunderbolt for 2 years and now working on my DNA, but I dont have problems with OTA's being forced onto my phone devices.Of course both my thunderbolt and DNA and/are rooted s-off. Is it different with tablet OTA's?+
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Turn it off. Settings ,about device software update

I just firewall'd the updater, so it's unable to download them.
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[Q] Updating after root

I searched through the rooting thread, but that only said it was ok to root the phone after installing the latest update from verizon. Now that my phone is rooted, can I still apply the updates verizon pushes down?
oakdog8 said:
I searched through the rooting thread, but that only said it was ok to root the phone after installing the latest update from verizon. Now that my phone is rooted, can I still apply the updates verizon pushes down?
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No no no NO!
You will lose root.
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You wouldnt even get the updates Verizon pushes. You could manually flash the RUU's and you would loose root or you could just wait until the ROM you use starts basing their future versions off of the updates which wont lose root.
If you look on the TB forum sites you will usually be able to find the update for rooted phones to if you are not using a custom ROM.

Atrix 2 restore

He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
hemanbond said:
He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
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Wiping won't unroot I don't think, but root should not affect the update. You will lose it when you update, but there will probably be a way we can make some changes before the update to avoid that.
The supercharger script might be an issue but probably not. It should have an option to unsupercharge anyways, but you should be fine without it.
The update will check to make sure you have not deleted any of the bloat that is not removable without root. so if you have done that your best bet would be to fxz back to stock if it will not update.
Nopes....didnt remove any bloatware....ok so wont that brick my phone as uts rooted...i read somwhere in xda forum that an atrix 2 was soft bricked because the guy rooted
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
Fall of Enosis said:
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
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that won't work for the ICS update. at least with the leaked international ones. No it won't brick you, you will just loose your root. If you wan't the updated to stay rooted, don't do it right away and give us a few days to figure out how to keep it.
Even if you did softbrick you could almost certainly fxz back to stock.
Thanx alot sir..... i wont update until an official update or till we get a fully working ics custom....no hurries

Updates for rooted devices

If this has already been asked/answered I apologize but I am new to these forums. I recently purchased an HTC One S and have rooted it. My question is will I still receive software updates for the phone such as if Jellybean or HTC sense updates were to be rolled out for the device?
pistl_pete said:
If this has already been asked/answered I apologize but I am new to these forums. I recently purchased an HTC One S and have rooted it. My question is will I still receive software updates for the phone such as if Jellybean or HTC sense updates were to be rolled out for the device?
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My understanding is that you can still receive OTA updates as long as you don't change the ROM. Though, I could be mistaken.
Root only is fine. You must not have modified the ROM in anyway, ie deleting "bloatware". You must also retain the stock recovery.
Remember you will loose "root" with OTA update. You could use OTA RootKeeper or re-root afterward.
baseballfanz said:
Root only is fine. You must not have modified the ROM in anyway, ie deleting "bloatware". You must also retain the stock recovery.
Remember you will loose "root" with OTA update. You could use OTA RootKeeper or re-root afterward.
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Well after the root I downloaded titanium and uninstalled a bunch of the apps that the phone came with which I had no use for. I was unaware that OTA updates will cause me to loose "root". What exactly is OTA RootKeeper
pistl_pete said:
Well after the root I downloaded titanium and uninstalled a bunch of the apps that the phone came with which I had no use for. I was unaware that OTA updates will cause me to loose "root". What exactly is OTA RootKeeper
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OTA RootKeeper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
You can run the T-mobile RUU to get back to totally stock if you have deleted some apps.

To root or not

I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!
All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?
Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.
You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.
buhohitr said:
Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?
You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?
binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free
Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
buhohitr said:
There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest

HELP! 9.30.1 OTA (LOST ROOT) Is There a Different way to Gain Root Back?

Ok so heres my first question?........... Is there any possible way of gaining root access through linux for my android ? ....Like running certain commands to do so......I know u have to change permissions and make changes to the android file system......And was wondering since linux uses root in terminals and so on and so forth would it work to access root in linux and maybe use a file manager to open your android system files in linux to make these changes so u may root. .. Instead of waiting for a DEV to create a method or script that will work ... Isnt there a way we can gain this back without waiting for an actual script to release . I rely on my root for a vast majority of my apps and i am lost without it . I know it may be more complex and diffucult for some people but to gain root access back this way ... But it would be great.
I have a working linux set up on my comp already with working adb /sdk installed ..... If anybody can help me with rooting my phone it would be very much appreciated. Im not new to this at all im very familiar with linux and how to use it. i basically need help with the rooting process and what to do when it comes to that.
I do not have an unlocked bootloader if that makes any difference.
Took 9.30.1 OTA and lost root.
As far as i know there is no script/method to root for the new OTA 9.30.1 update.
Tryed rooting already with Linux but my file system wont allow anything to be written to it.. Its Read Only File System. I think it has to be Read/Write
I really hope there is a root script/method released soon if this way isnt possible
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you
No. Unless an exploit is found, you are out of luck.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD under an Eclipse.
iBolski said:
No. Unless an exploit is found, you are out of luck.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD under an Eclipse.
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Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
mnkurk1989 said:
Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
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I doubt there will be another exploit. This phone is a year old now and most devs are focusing on custom ROMs.
mnkurk1989 said:
Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
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Mostly likely none. Because at this point 95% of people know to protect root before taking an ota. Or just don't take it.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
My phone is the not-unlockable one and locked.
I happend to click yes when this update question came. After realizing what was happening, I set my phone to flight mode, and the update downloading is now paused. Is there anyway to cancel this downloading/update process?
I have installed safestrape and backup my stock ROM before this. The worst is that I restore the backup and the update question will be prompted again, right?
Or is there other way to stop the update downloading in progress?
Another question, if root is lost through the OTA update, can I restore the backup through Safestrape and get root again? Or is everything gone?
xknobi said:
My phone is the not-unlockable one and locked.
I happend to click yes when this update question came. After realizing what was happening, I set my phone to flight mode, and the update downloading is now paused. Is there anyway to cancel this downloading/update process?
I have installed safestrape and backup my stock ROM before this. The worst is that I restore the backup and the update question will be prompted again, right?
Or is there other way to stop the update downloading in progress?
Another question, if root is lost through the OTA update, can I restore the backup through Safestrape and get root again? Or is everything gone?
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Once root is lost after the ota has been fully applied, the backup will do you no good as there is a new kernel applied.
As for it being paused, I believe you should be okay. Just because you started the download doesn't mean it's been applied. Freeze the updater apk and reboot. I believe that will cancel the download and with the frozen updater, you won't get bothered again.
You could apply the update if you save root with voodoo root keep but if you ever have to reimage your phone, you will lose root permanently. I'd just hold off and wait and see if an exploit is ever found.
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iBolski said:
Once root is lost after the ota has been fully applied, the backup will do you no good as there is a new kernel applied.
As for it being paused, I believe you should be okay. Just because you started the download doesn't mean it's been applied. Freeze the updater apk and reboot. I believe that will cancel the download and with the frozen updater, you won't get bothered again.
You could apply the update if you save root with voodoo root keep but if you ever have to reimage your phone, you will lose root permanently. I'd just hold off and wait and see if an exploit is ever found.
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Thanks for the info. I have just restored the backup stock rom and all is good. Installed Root Keeper anyway.
Anyone working on a root exploit for 9.30.1
So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
deeje00 said:
Mostly likely none. Because at this point 95% of people know to protect root before taking an ota. Or just don't take it.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
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I had root with the 9.30.1 update. I backed up root with OTA RootKeeper but my phone was acting up so i factory reset it and all went to hell...!!! I protected everything and backed up hoping that would do the trick but unfortunately it didnt save the root like it should have now i sit I regret ever resetting it thats for sure. It was risky on my part playing with the reset option knowing there was no exploit out yet and i payed the price
richardjrdeal said:
So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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I have a few guys looking into it for me im hoping to hear back soon with some good news
richardjrdeal said:
So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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im assuming your bootloader is unlocked?
if so, search for a flash-able zip of SU. you can root any build, problem solved.
I know our RAZR HD's are old, but there's nothing better out there. At this point, I'm willing to pay cash money for anyone able to find a new root exploit for this dumb 9.30 update. I took all the precautionary steps and have an unlocked phone, yet for some reason as soon as the update applied I lost root. It happened during the last ota and I got lucky that the warranty covered me. Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty. So once again, please find a root exploit and I'll pay you. I dont want to get rid of my razr. Thanks yall
razrretard said:
I know our RAZR HD's are old, but there's nothing better out there. At this point, I'm willing to pay cash money for anyone able to find a new root exploit for this dumb 9.30 update. I took all the precautionary steps and have an unlocked phone, yet for some reason as soon as the update applied I lost root. It happened during the last ota and I got lucky that the warranty covered me. Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty. So once again, please find a root exploit and I'll pay you. I dont want to get rid of my razr. Thanks yall
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there is no need for a new exploit if you have an unlocked bootloader.
search for a flash-able SU zip or search razr forum for the rooting unlocked bootloader thread.
problem solved, cash payments preferred

			
				
bweN diorD said:
there is no need for a new exploit if you have an unlocked bootloader.
search for a flash-able SU zip or search razr forum for the rooting unlocked bootloader thread.
problem solved, cash payments preferred
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I've tried every su time there is in here and other sites. They fail every time. I've tried recovery through twrp and cwm and they both fail. As a matter of fact since I took the update neither one of those will work now either. I'll keep trying new stuff until I succeed or brick this phone. All other devices that are currently available can't hold a flame to the RAZR.
razrretard said:
I've tried every su time there is in here and other sites. They fail every time. I've tried recovery through twrp and cwm and they both fail. As a matter of fact since I took the update neither one of those will work now either. I'll keep trying new stuff until I succeed or brick this phone. All other devices that are currently available can't hold a flame to the RAZR.
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Then are you sure you have an unlocked boot loader? If not, then you are hosed. We're just going by the fact that you posted " Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty".
iBolski said:
Then are you sure you have an unlocked boot loader? If not, then you are hosed. We're just going by the fact that you posted " Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty".
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I get the "warning, boot loader unlocked" message every time I power up. Used *#*#4636#*#* and checked that device shows root. I took all the precautionary steps before installing the ota, and I was having problems that both 9.20 and 9.30 fixed. Was running eclipse as a ROM before all this went screwy lewy
tried using motochopper (no winning)
All boxers are checked, however when I get the true ending to check my SU, it gives me some bogus message about needing to update SU, however it says I have an HTC device, I'm very confused on this, and don't understand what it is even referring too.
Anyone know what I'm reading about here?
razrretard said:
I get the "warning, boot loader unlocked" message every time I power up. Used *#*#4636#*#* and checked that device shows root. I took all the precautionary steps before installing the ota, and I was having problems that both 9.20 and 9.30 fixed. Was running eclipse as a ROM before all this went screwy lewy
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http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/topic/20473-[How-To]UNIVERSAL-Recovery-and-Root-ANY-{Unlocked-Bootloader-XT926-&-XT907}-Easy! I have used this twice after I've taken an update from vzw... If if your phones not being recognized it could be your drivers or the cable
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