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I'm not very tech savvy when it comes to rooting. I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the articles about the update being sent OTA, but does manually updating the version to 4.0.3 require root? Because my Nexus S isn't rooted.
I'm presuming it does require root, though; so is there any other possible way to get the update? I'm impatient for it.
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No it doesn't require root. Just get the full OTA for your phone model and flash it via stock recovery.
Thanks!
Just wondering if the latest update from Verizon can still be rooted and unlocked with the current methods. Thanks.
Had the same question
whitlecj said:
Just wondering if the latest update from Verizon can still be rooted and unlocked with the current methods. Thanks.
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Tried Noxious Ninja's method from here, but no longer working for me after the VRALHE update. Looking at the original thread, it looks like someone did get it to work, though.
jiroveci said:
Tried Noxious Ninja's method from here, but no longer working for me after the VRALHE update. Looking at the original thread, it looks like someone did get it to work, though.
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Whether it still works or not I don't know. If it doesn't will have to wait for new exploit. This is why if you want to root and unlock you should NEVER take an OTA. You will eventually catch one that leaves you stuck on stock indefinitely until another exploit is found. EVO 4G LTE has already been locked back down with an OTA. All the releases are available as rooted rom and when firmware update is available the devs will modify it to make safe to flash. If you find yourself locked down only option I know of is to send it to Josh and spend the $60 to have it JTAGed back to older firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941334
Yes it works on the new ota. I rooted the new ota using that method this morning
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Ez unlock still work too?
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whitlecj said:
Ez unlock still work too?
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Yes I actually locked the boot loader before I accepted the ota, then rerooted and unlocked boot loader with ez unlock. Worked perfectly
Hit me up on Gtalk if u need help @musclehead84
Thanks guys. I am picking up a new phone from a guy and I am not sure if he has been accepting the OTA's. Just wanted to make sure I will be able to unlock and root it. Thanks.
whitlecj said:
Thanks guys. I am picking up a new phone from a guy and I am not sure if he has been accepting the OTA's. Just wanted to make sure I will be able to unlock and root it. Thanks.
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1. [ROOT][TOOL][VRALHD][VRALG7] SuperSU Root w/ Out Flashing worked perfectly to root the latest VRALHE OTA update.
2. VZW GS3 EZ-Unlock (Bootloader) Version 1.2 worked perfectly to unlock the bootloader on the latest VRALHE OTA update.
3. EZ-Recovery for VZW Galaxy S3 Version 2.2 worked perfectly to flash TWRP recovery on the latest VRALHE OTA update.
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1. [ROOT][TOOL][VRALHD][VRALG7] SuperSU Root w/ Out Flashing worked perfectly to root the latest VRALHE OTA update.
2. VZW GS3 EZ-Unlock (Bootloader) Version 1.2 worked perfectly to unlock the bootloader on the latest VRALHE OTA update.
3. EZ-Recovery for VZW Galaxy S3 Version 2.2 worked perfectly to flash TWRP recovery on the latest VRALHE OTA update.
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This worked perfectly! Anyone with the latest update from Verizon, should try this method! It really works
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Just so Im 100% sure before I do something I'll regret, if I accept the OTA update that was released a couple of weeks ago (?) I will still be able to root and unlock my phone later correct?
Ive been deferring the update for a while now and while I dont mind continuing to do that, I wouldnt mind not doing that as well.
I havent rooted or unlocked my phone yet so Im still running the same software that the phone came with way back in July.
Also, does this update alter the way Google searches? I vaguely remember Google losing a lawsuit regarding the way the search bar searches everything on the phone + the internet, but it may be much too soon for that to have any effect on current software.
So far can still root and unlock. Never know what the next one will bring. And yes Google Search was handicapped 2 or 3 updates ago.
i'm having trouble installing my update. i locked my bootloader via ez unlock, and flashed bkac to the stock recovery via ez recovery.
i ran the OTA update, downloaded fine, but when it installs, it fails half way during the install? anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
i'm rooted via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709 , and i have google wallet installed.
do i need to unroot and uninstall wallet inorder for this update to install?
prdog1 said:
So far can still root and unlock. Never know what the next one will bring. And yes Google Search was handicapped 2 or 3 updates ago.
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Maybe I wont update then since Im still running the software from June 15 2012.
Although I never use the search feature, and Im sure to lose it should I go to JB...
sooperwill said:
i'm having trouble installing my update. i locked my bootloader via ez unlock, and flashed bkac to the stock recovery via ez recovery.
i ran the OTA update, downloaded fine, but when it installs, it fails half way during the install? anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
i'm rooted via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709 , and i have google wallet installed.
do i need to unroot and uninstall wallet inorder for this update to install?
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The update will not install with Google Wallet installed. If you have a nandroid without it, you can revert back to that and update with no worries.
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I flashed back to stock via Odin. From what I understand the phone has to be completely stock to except and complete ota, so that means wallet is a no go.
Like I said flashed back to stock, took the update went through fine rerooted using noxious ninja and unlocked via ez:thumbup: unlock 1.2
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I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!
All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?
Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.
You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?
You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?
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If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free
Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
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So, since the JB update for my Samsung Galaxy S2X is due for April and seeing as my device is rooted I was wondering if I can perform an update via Samsung kies while retaining my root? I also noticed that while looking around super user I noticed a feature that said "OTA Survival" and this leads me to believe that before the actual update I will be able to check that option and update and after the update I can uncheck that to have it back to root? I'm sorry this is just my assumption and I only recently rooted my device last month. I haven't done anything major with my rooted device besides download free games off google *cough*. If my assumption is incorrect, may someone provide me with a way to keep my root while updating to JB?
Thanks to those who reply
*edit* I just realized that the S2X has no option to update over wifi and that I must connect my usb to manually update.. which makes OTA survival mode pointless. Now I am totally lost on how to keep my root.
You don't. You will have to reroot. Also if running a custom ROM you can't update that way
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You could just flash it like any other ROM instead of OTA. If people do root injected stock ROMs for your device they will probably be posted pretty quickly after release.
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You don't. You will have to reroot. Also if running a custom ROM you can't update that way
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thanks for the reply! I am using a Koodo S2x t898d and I'm not running any custom roms or anything on my device. The only thing I've installed on my device after rooting it are root required applications on Google play and APKs off google. Does that mean I can just update my phone via samsung kies without any further required steps? At this point I'm more keen on updating to JB.
I was wondering if anyone found a way to take ota after rooting. I have always had rooted devices and always ended up on custom roms. For now I would like to stay on the official rom and debloat a bit. Any ideas?
Pretty sure you can just flash back to stock and take ota, then re root. You normally need stock recovery to take ota, and be unrooted
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I can't believe i didnt think of that after I did the same thing with the S4. Thx for shining some light into my clouded mind lol
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I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I tried this and update still wouldn't let me download the OTA.
Unless someone comes out with a way to revert the knox flag (which is said to be a perm flag) it won't ever be possible to be true factory again as all OTA's will now check for the tamper.
I think someone mentioned though you can manually install it, just the downloader/OTA wouldn't work.
If manually still wasn't possible I'm sure someone could remove the check from the update and you still get it that way but officially through Samsung you currently are probably stuck.
Ideally someone finds a way to reset the so called, perma flag.
If not the alternative might be finding a way to root the phone without flagging it, but in those cases it won't help those already flagged.
I know on HTC they had a similar type of flag, though didn't use it to check for update status. They flagged as Tampered or Re-locked for example.
However after some time we found how to reset those in some magical hidden area to blind write too (not talking about those that cheated to hide it via bootloader image edits)
At this point it's a wait and see game...
I hope someone finds fast though, I am stock and really want to get this bloat off my phone lol
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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roadrunnrr said:
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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When I tried this the update check still failed stating that I had a custom ROM.
Just checked for updates and it went through
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Just checked for updates and it went through
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Were you rooted then un-rooted?? Can you post the OTA file from your cache??
Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it. Let me know where I can find the OTA and I'll post it. But I'm unrooted now so I don't know if it will work
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Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it.
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Nice, Otherwise seems like a bad strategy on Samsung's part if they don't allow people who unroot and odin back to stock to take OTA's.. Why would a manufacture not want to offer a path back to stock for security updates and the chance to get a user back on a bloated rom full of there paid ad apps. Each time users do this there is a small percentage that won't either be able to re-root due to updates stopping the root method or just out of hassle. I understand the warranty flag but not why you wouldn't offer a path back to stock unless they are just being short sighted in an attempt to penalize people who root which won't have much effect..
I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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So root!!
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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roadrunnrr said:
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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I can't seem to do it. Once I rooted and tripped the Knox flag bit the Update check won't let me download. But the error message says that I can still download and install updates using Kies.
I just fixed it. The problem is not the Knox flag but rather the fact that Custom was showing in Download mode instead of Official. I had to flash twice without my SDcard inserted to get to Official. Once I got to Official the update started to download.
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Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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Patience.. I guess..
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but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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I gotta agree.. Most of my previous device OTA's were always dumped within hours of release really surprised this hasn't been yet. This is my first Samsung phone and I have liked the device but kinda disappointed in the XDA turnout so far. I am always appreciative of those who are here but I just thought with how popular the Galaxy line was there would be more dev support from day 1 but there hasn't been much so far. I know it's early and being CDMA/Sprint really limits us but seems like all my previous HTC devices on Sprint and the current M8 are getting way more action.. Oh well, but sure makes a jump to T-Mobile for the new Oneplus One Cyanogen phone sound tempting haha..
And thanks again to all those who are here and contributing!!!