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There is no update available TF101

Hi there,
I read almost every thread about no updates available and still don't found answer...
My tab was rooted and CWM installed.
because this is B60, I used NVflash to flash totally stock 8.6.5.13 from here:
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
after that, I tried to use "system firmware update" but "There is no update available" message appears,
so I decided to update it manually, put 8.6.5.21 zip on sdcard and now have 8.6.5.21 android,
but still "There is no update available"...
I also tried to root this 8.6.5.21 put CWM again, used SuperWipe Full script, and again installed 8.6.5.13 with NVFlash, still same situation.
I also tried tricks with clear cache/data of CMClient and DMClient,
I can push ICS via NVflash but last version i found is .24, i tried this also, but can't get update to .27 and noticed battery draining during night,
my plan is come back to totally stock where OTA will work and give this tab to my wife.
Anybody can help me ?

_Pablo_ said:
Hi there,
I read almost every thread about no updates available and still don't found answer...
My tab was rooted and CWM installed.
because this is B60, I used NVflash to flash totally stock 8.6.5.13 from here:
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
after that, I tried to use "system firmware update" but "There is no update available" message appears,
so I decided to update it manually, put 8.6.5.21 zip on sdcard and now have 8.6.5.21 android,
but still "There is no update available"...
I also tried to root this 8.6.5.21 put CWM again, used SuperWipe Full script, and again installed 8.6.5.13 with NVFlash, still same situation.
I also tried tricks with clear cache/data of CMClient and DMClient,
I can push ICS via NVflash but last version i found is .24, i tried this also, but can't get update to .27 and noticed battery draining during night,
my plan is come back to totally stock where OTA will work and give this tab to my wife.
Anybody can help me ?
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Use BRK's tool and download the latest firmware from Asus. This tool works great and will even get you rooted after nvflashing 9.2.1.27 for you.

sidneyk said:
Use BRK's tool and download the latest firmware from Asus. This tool works great and will even get you rooted after nvflashing 9.2.1.27 for you.
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BRK tools is great "Everything in one place" tool.
I can use it to install ICS .27 from Asus web site, and this is great,
but I don't know if in the future OTA will come...
I tried to install 8.6.5.21 using this tool, and after that still had message "There is no update avaiable"
as I wrote, want to be 100% sure, future OTA will come.

_Pablo_ said:
BRK tools is great "Everything in one place" tool.
I can use it to install ICS .27 from Asus web site, and this is great,
but I don't know if in the future OTA will come...
I tried to install 8.6.5.21 using this tool, and after that still had message "There is no update avaiable"
as I wrote, want to be 100% sure, future OTA will come.
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My understanding is that FOTAs will be allowed if you nvflash a stock firmware with this tool, so long as it's not rooted and you keep the stock recovery. All has to be stock and the proper SKU, i.e. US, WW, CN, etc. and it should work the same as if it came from the factory that way.

I have a rooted, deodexed stock(ish) rom and I still get updates, but of course they won't flash. I don't think ASUS is constantly pushing old updates since the only ones who haven't upgraded yet are either rooted or haven't used their tablet. The updates are incremental, so you need the current stock rom to update with the lastest OTA. The full roms can be downloaded from the ASUS site.
If you want to get updates straight from ASUS, then flash the latest rom and keep it stock. Otherwise, you'll just get useless updates that won't flash. You need a stock system and a stock recovery to flash the ASUS OTAs. No voodoo, no overclocking kernel, no CIFS/SAMBA, no XBMC, no nothing, no fun.

gee one said:
I have a rooted, deodexed stock(ish) rom and I still get updates, but of course they won't flash.
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Exactly! Rooted rom or changed recovery don't stop to receive FOTA notifications, but will give an error if you try to install.
gee one said:
I don't think ASUS is constantly pushing old updates since the only ones who haven't upgraded yet are either rooted or haven't used their tablet. The updates are incremental, so you need the current stock rom to update with the lastest OTA. The full roms can be downloaded from the ASUS site.
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Something is strange here, and probably only Asus knows how it works.
I had rooted room, and my tab downloaded first update to ICS version, but of course I didn't install it. Now I tried to come bace to fully stock, tried 8.6.5.13, 8.6.5.21, and 9.2.1.24 and never received FOTA notification anymore.
Maybe my serial number is banned on Asus side ??? Who knows...
I spend a lot of time reading and some people had this problem, some not, nobody don't know the reason.
gee one said:
If you want to get updates straight from ASUS, then flash the latest rom and keep it stock. Otherwise, you'll just get useless updates that won't flash. You need a stock system and a stock recovery to flash the ASUS OTAs. No voodoo, no overclocking kernel, no CIFS/SAMBA, no XBMC, no nothing, no fun.
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I tried to come back to fully stock in order to give this tab to my wife, but if tab don't receive FOTA anymore, and I'll have to update it by hand every time using SD card it makes no sense to install stock firmware. Now I'm looking for most stable ROM and will install it. For now the winner is newest ARHD, but I still reading about diffrent roms.

To be clear, I think that ASUS only pushes out updates for the latest ROM. If you are on .24 or older, you probably won't get an update since .27 is the latest. This is just my theory. The updates are incremental, which means that you have to apply the .27 update on top of the .24 rom. It will fail if you try to flash it over an older rom, even if it is bone stock.
In your situation, I would recommend a custom ROM.

Gee one is right... once you root stock update won't install and yes its a incremental update and you can't install .27 over .21 it has to be in order (.21->.24->.27)... also you need a unrooted ROM to download and apply updates from Asus otherwise update will fail and u risk soft bricking ur tablet... I did that once coz I was having problems with 1st ICS versions....
If don't like/can't get to work then root it and install either android revolution HD or revolver ICS.. both are stock based ICS ROMs...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda app-developers app

Hmm...
Updates are incremental, this is true.
but... When i bought my tf, and come back to home, FOTAs coming few times and after one hour about I had nevest version.
Now, after NVFLASHing .24 I don't receive FOTA update since two days...
Somewhere I red, NVFLASH don't clean everything, maybe this is reason.
I would like to try, but i have no idea how to TOTALLY clean my tab,
I looked into SuperWupeFull script and it clean mmcblk0p1, p2 and p7.
Any idea about TOTAL clean ?

really dangerous way should be to execute dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/mmcblk0
but i don't know if it is good idea ))
this could break apx mode.

_Pablo_ said:
really dangerous way should be to execute dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/mmcblk0
but i don't know if it is good idea ))
this could break apx mode.
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Why don't u try downloading older version of Asus and do incremental update.. say first version of ICS for transformer...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda app-developers app

I tried versions, ICS .21, .24 and HC .13, .21.
Every time, same message:
"No updates available for your device"

Asus might not be pushing any updates. I bet they stop as soon as they post the latest rom on their website.
If you use nvflash to reflash your TF, it will format every partition, but you have to use the --create flag. If you just download the system or recovery, it won't touch the other partitions.

PLEASE HELP!! :S Bricked?

I installed the new jelly Bean ROM for the tf300, forced it really with a forum in the general section, everything was working fine except i had lost my recovery.
I tried installing the recovery back on but i couldent, then i tried wipe user data waited a long time for that but nothing happened so i rebooted and now it is stuck at the Asus logo and i cant access the boot loader!! please im desperate! hope its not totally messed up.

I did EXACTLY the same. You are ****ed no way to fix it. I will be sending my tf300 for RMA later this day.

sparky28000 said:
I did EXACTLY the same. You are ****ed no way to fix it. I will be sending my tf300 for RMA later this day.
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Let us know how that goes - rumor has it that Asus doesn't service tablets with unlocked motherboards. So they'll throw your board in the trash, place in a new one, then charge you for it.

krhainos said:
Let us know how that goes - rumor has it that Asus doesn't service tablets with unlocked motherboards. So they'll throw your board in the trash, place in a new one, then charge you for it.
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what about locked tablets but w/ rooted w/ SU installed? any rumors that they wouldn't service it? I think I should be fine. My JB update is causing tons of Gapps force closings, must have been a corrupt update. Sending it in since I want to keep the BL/warranty intact

paedz718 said:
what about locked tablets but w/ rooted w/ SU installed? any rumors that they wouldn't service it? I think I should be fine. My JB update is causing tons of Gapps force closings, must have been a corrupt update. Sending it in since I want to keep the BL/warranty intact
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If your bootloader is intact, your warranty is completely intact. I think there are ways to force the unit to flash stock firmwares.
If you have your root, check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
Method 2 worked for me going back to 9.4.3.30/ICS, then I was able to go to JB afterwards. Bootloader unlock NOT required.

krhainos said:
If your bootloader is intact, your warranty is completely intact. I think there are ways to force the unit to flash stock firmwares.
If you have your root, check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
Method 2 worked for me going back to 9.4.3.30/ICS, then I was able to go to JB afterwards. Bootloader unlock NOT required.
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oh nice! I may need to try this. I assume you were unrooted when you tried Method 2. curious, why did you have to go back to .30/ICS before going to JB? and did the JB OTA update come down again for you or you had to try that workaround method?

paedz718 said:
oh nice! I may need to try this. I assume you were unrooted when you tried Method 2. curious, why did you have to go back to .30/ICS before going to JB? and did the JB OTA update come down again for you or you had to try that workaround method?
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The JB update script will fail when it tries to patch APK's that you removed. I removed a bunch to de-bloat, so you need a 100% complete stock 9.4.3.30 ICS before the JB update from Asus will work.
I was rooted and unlocked, so I couldn't use the traditional method -- I used a modified zip file that I flashed through TWRP.

krhainos said:
The JB update script will fail when it tries to patch APK's that you removed. I removed a bunch to de-bloat, so you need a 100% complete stock 9.4.3.30 ICS before the JB update from Asus will work.
I was rooted and unlocked, so I couldn't use the traditional method -- I used a modified zip file that I flashed through TWRP.
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thanks for the info

paedz718 said:
thanks for the info
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Couple other things -- you will lose TWRP or CWMR upon flashing, attempting to flash one* will brick your unit.
Make sure you back up your root with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and SuperSU (not Superuser) -- there's a couple threads about this floating around. I was following this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840504
* - they are currently working on making a new JB-compatible recovery after a bunch of us bricked our tablets

krhainos said:
Couple other things -- you will lose TWRP or CWMR upon flashing, attempting to flash one* will brick your unit.
Make sure you back up your root with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and SuperSU (not Superuser) -- there's a couple threads about this floating around. I was following this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840504
* - they are currently working on making a new JB-compatible recovery after a bunch of us bricked our tablets
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I read that about the custom recoveries since they need to be JB compatible. looks like TWRP is on the case. My instance, I kept my bootloader intact and wanted to keep it still like that just in case I screwed it up like cracking the screen. I've only had it for a few months. That's why I may have to try the Wolf method for rooted users w/ locked bootloaders. I just need to verify thru ADB that I still have root after I upgraded or try the unrooted method to go back to ICS.
Just read that link closely and I def did not have SuperSU installed only Voodoo OTA RK, guess I'm no longer rooted after the update then. I should have waited a few days before I updated and scoured the forums. oh well, I'm just hoping to get a working tablet back. I can only get to the "Welcome" setup screen on JB and immediately get gapps force closes, popping up one after the other. Def a corrupt flash.

How is the rma thing have u gotten word back? I bricked mine upgrading to jb. The fast boot USB method errors and locks up the unit.
So I opened an RMA ticket and am sending my tablet in a day... my boot loader is unlocked as well.

Happened to me too. I'm hoping that ASUS will fix it for a reasonable price. Otherwise I'm just going to get a Nexus 7.

Pre JB Rules?

Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?

Haha I was actually in the process of rooting/unlocking and after reading this post, I think i'm going to hold off until my buddy here gets his questions answered. Good questions to ask.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803343
I'm gonna go ahead with unlocking and use the above info to install OTA JB i reckon.

So, If the TF300 forums are indicitive of what we should do, root before JB is THE only way to do root...can NOt be done after JB.
But the unlock bootloader is what I am ignorant on.....still OTA with unlocked bootloader, that is my main concern...

as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader

vegandroid said:
as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader
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The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.

okantomi said:
The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.
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i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.

To the OP
If you unlock you will not receive the OTA update regardless. If you download and flash it won't you brick your device as once unlocked any ASUS builds/updates brick?

If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?

wpbear said:
If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?
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If I was going to take the ota I would completely wipe/factory reset first just like flashing any other rom.

vegandroid said:
i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.
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Sorry, I just hit reply to the wrong comment.

sumnerm1 said:
Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?
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If you want to use the OTA update than my best advice is to stay with the stock firmware, no root and no unlock. OTA updates with rooted devices are like the lottery could work for one user and don't work for another and mostly because after you root the device you will start messing with system filles, you will try various tweaks, etc.
As for the Asus Unlock Tool it seems that is working well on Jelly Bean, at least for the TF300 device.So imo you have this options:
1) Stay stock and without rooting so you will get OTAs just fine ( and have no guarantee that you can root after JB update)
2) Stay stock but root your device and pray that OTA update and Root keeper will work just fine
3) Unlock and root/install a custom rom now then wait until Asus will upload JB firmware on their site (in this case you need to manually install JB but you don't need to worry about rooting because with an unlocked device rooting is working on JB.
PS: To be honest i find this kind of threads a bit pointless because we don't have an ETA for Jelly Bean so maybe when this come out we already have a working root method for JB.
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Why would you not be able to root with JB?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

As long as ASUS releases Source Code and the Full ROM ZIP shortly after the OTA hits the device.
You can Unlock and root now because there will be a JB ROM with Root very soon.
Yes with Unlock and Root you don't get OTA, but you can still flash the Full-ROM ZIP from ASUS as soon as they release it.
And I'm sure there will be a rooted stock ROM not a day after the Full-ROM and Source Code is available.
Thats why I choosed ASUS Tablet!

Rooting

Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks

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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.

zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?

Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.

The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.

OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.

Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.

usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.

Quacker said:
In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.

Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.

Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?

usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.

I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984

nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?

Quacker said:
Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.

rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!

newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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Roots & Updates

Hi all,
I'm a little confused with rooting and updating, tried searching and still not certain.
I am not unlocked, don't really want to, and am rooted on 4.0.1. I had earlier rooted and used OTA Rootkeeper and then loaded .23 but then I could not get root back.
I put .30 ICS on and am again rooted. I guess I can only do OTA's to keep root? Despite that being in the name of Rootkeeper I was under the impression it kept it regardless.
One problem I was having that led me to load firmware manually was that this new tablet has the 'check update' function greyed out under the firmware update section.
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.

carpboy said:
Hi all,
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
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Yes if my understanding is correct but i could be wrong
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carpboy said:
Hi all,
I'm a little confused with rooting and updating, tried searching and still not certain.
I am not unlocked, don't really want to, and am rooted on 4.0.1. I had earlier rooted and used OTA Rootkeeper and then loaded .23 but then I could not get root back.
I put .30 ICS on and am again rooted. I guess I can only do OTA's to keep root? Despite that being in the name of Rootkeeper I was under the impression it kept it regardless.
One problem I was having that led me to load firmware manually was that this new tablet has the 'check update' function greyed out under the firmware update section.
So staying locked and wanting to maintain root I can only use OTA?
Thanks.
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If using OTA, you need to install OTA root keeper to save root then after the upgrade you then restore root with the OTA root keeper app. If you unable to update through OTA, you could use dlpkgfile to upgrade, again use OTA to preserve and restore root. If you flash the full firmware from Asus, it's going to wipe out your root and you have to go back to ICS .30 version to re root again.
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