Hey folks, forgive me if this is the wrong section but i could not find a section dedicated to the XE, only the standard sensation and XL.
I've done some serious looking arround and there are so many guides & tools across the various guides i'm confused. Some require htcdev, some don't and other stuff.
What i'm looking to do is simple
Permanently root the my phone with NO custom recovery (but the option to do so later cause it will be rooted) so i can still receive official updates because the HTC Sensation XE is scheduled for a android 4.1 or 4.2 update
My basic phone stuff is:
HTC Sensation XE
Android 4.03
HTC sense 3.6
Softwarenumber 3.33.401.154
Hboot 1.27 if i recall correct
What's the easiest way to do this.
Rooting procedure for sensation and sensation xe is same...
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda app-developers app
you can use htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader or
use this guide to S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
Every guide, rom or tweak for the 'normal' Sensation will work fine on the XE, as it has the exact same hardware. The XL has different hardware though.
That first link already "confuses".
first it starts talking about doesnt need htcdev unlocked bootloader, 2 lines below it sais it does need it. Then it links to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
I am registered on HTCDev.com but my device isnt listed, only the normal sensation (eu). I suppose i can pick that one? Then even further down that thread it talks about a new version that only requires temp root, or even a wire trick
see where i'm getting confused?
I'm on the stock rom (and plan to remain that way), no s-off (i was rooted when the phone had android 2.3.4 but flashed the update before i rerooted so i lost root). I'd rather not unlock the bootloader to void warrant and just gain s-off to be able to install superuser from the android market, cause i know thats the tool that actually grants aps root access
Actually if you have done htcdev then use the guide you mentioned
But if you haven't done htcdev then use the guide i linked to you
About temp root it must be done in order to have success for S-OFF
In any case follow the guide to the letter
Edit:you said that you were rooted when you were at 2.3.4 android
That means you did S-OFF with revolutionary method
Are you sure that you aren't still S-OFF;
About devices list you can choose all other supported devices
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
UPDATE: it is assumed that you have stock ROM and stock recovery and/or HTC unlock is failing
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So i should first try the HTCDev method?
Confirmed i'm no longer S-OFF, the update to ICS 403 failed because of the CWM recovery that got installed. I had to reset to factory settings in order to flash it, but after restoring i forgot to root again and straight updated to ICS so lost the root.
I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
Then there's this
but it's always recommended to follow HTCDEV unlock way as the wire trick there is easier
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See my whole confusing thing? I need simple instructions
As said i only want root access with no custom recovery so i can continue to get phone updates. If there's a non-stock version of like CWM that will let me do that well either is fine.
Mine fits this topics title. hboot 1.27 & FW 3.33(401.154) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870233
Then there's afaik this guide that fits too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
Ch3vr0n said:
I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
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it means that after htcdev unlock method you have to be rooted which means installed also custom recovery in order to use this S-OFF guide
so you don't need that in your case
so you have 2 options
use htcdev and leave it as it is or
use ganeshp S-OFF guide(i haven't seen anywhere for installing custom recovery or maybe i am so blind!)
Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps
Ch3vr0n said:
Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps
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in your case then i suggest you to follow htcdev method
because the guide you posted requires htcdev unlock method
also the tool that provides,you are using it to install custom recovery and then use root
i mean that you can't use the tool to root your device without installing first custom recovery
so proceed with htcdev unlock method
Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do
Ch3vr0n said:
Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do
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Then in this case best solution is my way of soff.. Guide Link in my signature..
In the pre-requisites of the unlimited.io official site you can skip the htcdev unlock part.. As this is special case..
1. just follow the guide to the letter... Then once soff is done.. Do the one clock root tool that's all
(the reason I quoted to do HTCDev unlock over this method is because the wire trick is kinda easier that way.. But you don't want HTCdev unlock and custom recovery so.. Just do what I said)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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Edit: based on your previous posts I want to confirm something first.... Dont do any thing now and just part the complete bootloader details here.. Then I'll guide you further
(I suspect you are already SOFF... But let's see)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access
Ch3vr0n said:
It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access
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you are S-OFF already
also no root access
no custom recovery
then don't do nothing
well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.
Ch3vr0n said:
well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.
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the red tringle means that you have stock recovery
if you want to have root access try to install the su app from google play store
i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
when i install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu it sais no super user binairy is installed, does there lie the problem ?
Ch3vr0n said:
i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
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try this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5zdXBlcnN1Il0.
that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted
Ch3vr0n said:
that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted
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hmm,
the only thing i can tell you is from ganeshp guide use only the one click root tool
see if you will succeed
but see also the prerequisites
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Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
kleftisx said:
Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
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You may still be able to receive updates but I wouldn't recommend it.
I believe that you're either S-ON, no-root and apply updates or S-OFF, root and NO updates!
Ok. But what is the best method to root my ds??
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
Gingerbreak or superoneclick. I prefer Gingerbreak because I found the whole process much quicker
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Im not sure if you are able to use the revolutionary tool to s-off your device, because it currently only supports HTC Desire S (saga) 0.98.0000 and 0.98.0002 hboot versions, but not the 2.00..... (coming with android 2.3.5)
you might wanna check htcdev.com for the unroot
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
Search and you will find....
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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You need to go to the htcdev site and perform the hboot lock procedure. Search and you will find the post on how to do it.
htcdev method
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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moloto said:
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
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You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
Locked radio
tpbklake said:
You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
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With all the respect, yes you can install custom rom with open hboot and you can gain a root(su) user rights, BUT if your rom is not compatible with your RADIO the you are doomed, your wifi, sd card, and another drivers may not be working, and in this case you are unable to overwrite the radio as the S(ecurity)-ON is locking right this. That was exactly my case, i installed S-ON original hboot from RUU 2.00.0002 and the newest Desire S ROM, but my wifi was not working and my sd was not accesible from pc, i went into recovery a tryied to flash RADIO image, but it was not possible, everytime the recovery was parsing the image and then just went back to bootloader main screen like nothing happend, this is because the RADIO is locked, i have tryied more imeges to be sure the first one was not corrupted, everytime the same result..
Still didn't find a way to root my DS.
Can anyone provide me a link to do this?
Go to http://www.htcdev.com press unlock bootloader and follow the instructions to s-off your device. (instead of all the files there, you will need only this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=727371&d=1316684239. Desire S is not at the supported devices, but it works great.)
It says "unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings" which means that it will reset all your phone settings I suppose. If anyone has tried this please inform us what we loose and if there is a better way for avoiding that.
@kleftisx p.m.to me in Greek if you didn't understand something!
EDIT: Misread post
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Root Desire S
i am gonna try it.
thanks
I am really a noob at rooting, though there are easy steps. However this confuses me. So if anyone can find a very good guide for rooting my Sensation XE running on ICS, that is noob-friendly.
EDIT: All I need to do is to downgrade my HBoot version to 1.17.xxxx - but I want to find the easiest way to do that.
EDIT2: I unlocked my phone's bootloader. Doesn't help with S-Off though. :/
I will have to wait for Revolutionary to update their tool so that my phone can S-Off (since my phone is 1.27.0000)
May I can downgrade my phone back to Gingerbread, but how? And it looks risky, will that can brick my phone?
I'll press the Thank button if your post is helpful enough.
I have found this to be a very useful guide with ICS https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KEQCpmcLGjbkeLmVU0mpLSwZvjNqLSAmNBqyKMus3Ag/edit?hl=en_US
You may also want to check youtube for the unlockr video tutorials, they typically refer back to xda, but will help if you need a visual reference.
socaljohn said:
I have found this to be a very useful guide with ICS https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KEQCpmcLGjbkeLmVU0mpLSwZvjNqLSAmNBqyKMus3Ag/edit?hl=en_US
You may also want to check youtube for the unlockr video tutorials, they typically refer back to xda, but will help if you need a visual reference.
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Thanks for your help.
though the link does not help me
This is the guide to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
If anything in the guide is confusing, Google it as once you get your head around it it's simple!
EddyOS said:
This is the guide to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
If anything in the guide is confusing, Google it as once you get your head around it it's simple!
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So how does this officially root my phone? Which steps shall I take to get it rooted?
i'm SUCH a newb :/
Read the guide, it's all there...Steps 1-3 will do the job
My Hboot version is 1.27.0000
I don't think I can root.
If you're not already S-OFF then you won't be able to root yet
EddyOS said:
If you're not already S-OFF then you won't be able to root yet
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I know.
I rather have to wait for Revolutionary tool to update or try to solve this: [Guide] Successful S-OFF after (wrong S-ON) brick for ICS/GB ,Downgrade S-ON firmware
:/
ThomasAndroid said:
I know.
I rather have to wait for Revolutionary tool to update or try to solve this: [Guide] Successful S-OFF after (wrong S-ON) brick for ICS/GB ,Downgrade S-ON firmware
:/
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Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
I hope you have been s-off before update because unrevoked won't support it right now. If it show LOCKED on bootloader, this is how I root my Sensation XE.
1. Unlocked the phone using htcdev.com account since no other's method seem possible right now. But if you device already unlock you do not have to do this.
Go to hTCDEV register, click "Unlock Bootloader" and follow the instruction.
2. Install custom recovery, since htc recovery won't flash/install flashble zip correctly. For this I use "Android Recovery Manager". Reboot the phone after unlocked process. Connect the phone with usb cable. Open the Android Recovery Manager > Start > ** Download a recovery ** > HTC Sensation > ClockWorkMod 5.0.2.0 (Pyramid) > follow the instruction on the software. If stuck when device reboot to flash hboot but not yet flash it because can recognised the FASTBOOT(Android Recovery Manager waiting for FASTBOOT). Take out battery, reconnect usb and boot to FASSBOOT.
3. Flash the supersu, as the Android Recovery Manager finish flash the ClockWorkMod you have to install Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip. If fail retry flash 2-3 times, but I am just done 1 time, before on GB I flash two time because fail at 1st time. And now you rooted and reboot your phone.
Try at your own risk.
Summary :
Download Android Recovery Manager and Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip, place the Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip on sdcard. Unlock the phone on htcdev.com, install custom recovery with Android Recovery Manager and flash the supersuser.
* use Superuser version 3.0.7 because the lower version won't support ICS. Use link given and download the right version.
I am using this method on Sensation XE, so try at your own risk. I will not responsible to anything happen. And please do make sure you backup your device first.
# Just hit the thanks button so I and other's will know this method also work for you ;p
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XaQi 101 said:
Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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Man, this solved my problem thank you very much.... btw what rom would you recommend? ARHD? or any?
appreciate the help
I'd start with ARHD as it is close to stock, stable and offers SebastianFM kernel which is great.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA
Raven2k said:
I'd start with ARHD as it is close to stock, stable and offers SebastianFM kernel which is great.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA
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thanks,
btw, do you happen to know how to solve this,
superuser can't update latest SU binary update, it says failed to gain root access.
titanium backup says the same too "no root access"
do you know a link for the latest su binary update? I flashed the
superuser - 3.0.7-d-signed
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XaQi 101 said:
Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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that su zip didnt work on my ICS but this one did Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip thank man for pointing me on the right direction
XaQi 101 said:
Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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Thanks but I only unlocked my bootloader. doesn't help with S-Offing.
XaQi 101 said:
Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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Hi sorry i happened to come across this thread.
I did your method, was able to unlock but i couldnt acheive S-OFF on it.
Qiwei said:
Hi sorry i happened to come across this thread.
I did your method, was able to unlock but i couldnt acheive S-OFF on it.
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Me too.
Actually, that method only unlocks bootloader. :/
ThomasAndroid said:
Me too.
Actually, that method only unlocks bootloader. :/
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ya.. haha trying to find out how to get s-off on it..
Update: Hey say thomas you able to get into clockworkrecovery? cause i managed to get in.. just wondering how to flash the Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip.
Any idea?
hey managed to get it rooted! many thanks for the guide and help!!
wow. how can you manage to get your phone rooted, when your phone is not even S-Off :/
ThomasAndroid said:
wow. how can you manage to get your phone rooted, when your phone is not even S-Off :/
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Thomas follow the guide that XaQi 101 gave. Its possible to root without having S-OFF.
Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced
dr69 said:
Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced
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Hi,
You should be OK to just install something like ARHD ROM
It contains root and recovery,which are installed when you flash the ROM...
On the [OP] is also a superwipe which will clean and prepare your phone for the new ROM.
Backup your stuff,place the superwipe and ROM on the root of your sd card and flash from recovery
Thanks for.your response but I'm really not interested in installing Custom Roms at the moment, just Stock Rom for now.
Can you please if u know or have any info on doing the.rooting and Custom Recovery by myself.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
Easy enough ..find chainfires supersu thread and at the bottom download the attachment flash it..but before that..put your device in fast boot via USB..flash any recovery like say cwr(cwm) by typing fastboot flash recovery recoverynamehere.img then flash root file on your SD let me know if your confused
Sent from an AOKP Sensation 4G
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
kgs1992 said:
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?
Yo_2T said:
I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?
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Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.
Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
dr69 said:
Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
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4EXT touch. If you'd please care to read the tool thread.
kgs1992 said:
Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.
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Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?
Yo_2T said:
Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?
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You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.
kgs1992 said:
You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.
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So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.
Yo_2T said:
So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.
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Revolutionary is an engineering (ENG) bootloader
Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
HOLY CRAP! can this be any more confusing. I've been following this thread waiting for a final answer and still nothing. If anyone gets this done, please do a step by step for those of us not willing to blaze new ground here.
I know there are tons of us in the same boat. Upgraded to ICS stock and wanting to keep the ROM, just open ourselves up to CWM flashing options and root required apps.
Based on what the original poster is going through here, most of us do not want to chase down link after link.
I'll keep watching hoping for a final answer. Make the last post a link to the STEP by STEP.
Thanks all for your patience.
Look, you basically need a bootloader that says *unlocked*, *revolutionary* & *juopunutbear*.
If you are S Off but locked, flash an ENG Hboot.
If you are S On & locked, unlock using HTC Dev or S Off using JB.
Now, after this, flash 4EXT recovery & then root the device.
If your Hboot version is less than 1.27 flash firmware.
I'm assuming you are already on stock, so you have a stock rooted rom with custom recovery.
All of these can be done using my tool.
That's about as much I can help you with.
Also, when you talk about being new, look at when I've joined & when you'll have.
I got my first android phone a month ago & I'm on XDA since less than 3 weeks!
(No offence meant, but please try searching)
dr69 said:
Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
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Just try my... One click root... Guide in my signature... No recovery required.. Just soff is enough
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Regarding ur tool v6.4.2
kgs1992 said:
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it
dr69 said:
ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it
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Too many questions, seems you're confused.
Please head to IRC & find me there. SigPic (REALTIME IRC) has link.
EDIT: To briefly explain, it doesn't matter Revolutionary S Off or Juopunut Bear S Off.
The ENG Hboot is compatible with both.
After this, you can choose to install custom recovery if you want to or, just root right away.
It is always advisable to have custom recovery installed.
Ok this is the pics of the.tool scroolong up all the time
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Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
djp76 said:
Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
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Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
djp76 said:
I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
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ok forgive my stupidity does unlocking your boot oader give you root access?
If i use the official htc bootloader unlocker will it be the same as using one of the unlocking progs on here or do different versions have different benifits?
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
djp76 said:
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
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no, unlocking bootloader doesnt unlock most partition (you cant flash firmware), S-OFF unlocks all partition (its like actually owning the phone)
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
djp76 said:
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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S-off directly. Don't bother unlocking bootloader. Avoid potential headaches
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djp76 said:
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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I'd go straight to S-OFF because with the newer version of JuopunutBear S-OFF you dont need to have htcdev unlock
The JuopunutBear download is here and the guide you need to follow by ganeshp is here
Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
Here let me do some explaining for you. when you purchase your device it comes with the security on or what is referred to as S-ON. It also comes with a locked bootloader. Now what that means is that as long as you are S-ON you only have read permissions on the internal storage partitions of the device. The locked bootloader will not let you flash unsigned software to the device and it limits the fastboot and ADB commands you can use with the device. When you S-OFF your device you gain read and write permissions to all the partitions. But even after you S-OFF your device you still have to flash a unlocked bootloader or what is commonly called a eng Hboot to be fully unlocked as you can see by the above explanation.
Now to cover the difference between HTC Dev unlock and S-OFF via JuopunutBear. When you use HTC Dev unlock you gain write permissions to your system partition, recovery partition, and your boot partition. But unlike when you are full S-OFF and you just simply flash the ROM as one package via recovery. After using HTC Dev unlock you have to extract the boot.img and flash it via fastboot commands, or you can install 4EXT recovery and the 4EXT Recovery Updater app then enable Smart Flash to flash the boot.img. Now because you do not gain write permissions to all the partitions you can not flash splash screens, radios, or firmware packages when you use HTC Dev unlock.
Now to talk about root, when you root your device you essentially fully open up the line of communication between the OS and the Linux kernel. It allows the OS to have more access to hardware and to a certain extent software. This allows the user to get the full potential out of the device. Now to root the Sensation you just need to flash Superuser or SuperSU via recovery and then install BusyBox from the Google Play store. Now I had originally plained to go into further details and tell you what both are for but I will not right nowcause my stupid phone erased the original much longer post I had wrote when I went to another tab o my browser.
Go to Recognized Contributor malybru's stickie thread " A great starting point for all new Sensation owners" here in the Sensation General forum for links to everything you need to know.
djp76 said:
Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
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Bugger! my HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported by revoloutionary what do i do now?
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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On your details abouit your phone it states that you s-offed using rev but rev said that hboot 1.27.000 is not supported
Any ideas?
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
djp76 said:
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
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Use soff by juopunutbear or do htc-Dev unlocked lock and flash roms while being SON.. For both there re guides in general section
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
djp76 said:
thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
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no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
rzr86 said:
no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
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Ah yes thanks, i shall do that and see what happens
hello everyone, android user and my device s-off in the first year I want to do but how to do it without the support of htcdev? Is there a program available? When I unlock my device also has root? Am I going to root sturdy at the same time to s-off? I just want to get rid of device applications that official. 5 4.2.2 installed on my device, this device can sense it possible to root for?
Thank you.
I think you're confused as to what s-off is and unlocking is, they're two entirely different things. You don't use htcdev to get s-off. You use htcdev to unlock your bootloader, and no you cannot unlock your bootloader without htcdev. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't give you root, after unlocking the bootloader you must install a custom recovery and then you can gain root. After gaining root you can get SuperCID and then you can get s-off. If all you want to do is remove some system apps, then you'll just need to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and install root.
Sent from my Evita
You don't need s-off to delete bloatware (pre-installed apps). Just use HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. Then install custom recovery, then either flash SU or a rooted ROM to get root.
The process to s-off is simple (see Facepalm method in the Original Android Development subforum). However, it requires SuperCID. Since the CID is protected on Sense 5, you will not be able to SuperCID (and therefore S-off).
But as already mentioned, you don't need S-off to root and delete bloatware.
I'm at a loss and somewhat confused.
I read in one place that I need to s-off to update my radio, but in order to do that I need super-cid.
so I'm trying to change my cid from ROGER001 to 11111111.
Now I'm reading that I can s-off without super-cid? All I'd like to do is update my radio and kernel so my phone stops losing signal and stops rebooting. I should also mention that I already went to htcdev and unlocked my bootloader.
What I see in fastboot:
TAMPERED
UNLOCKED
Evita PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.14.0000
RADIO-0.23a.32.09.29
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Viper Xl 4.2.0(amazing Rom btw)
HTC Sense 5.0
I have tried the script, it failed, manual method, that failed.
manual method gets me this result after I fastboot oem readcid(ok), fastboot oem writecid 11111111
... INFO elite_init_sd, SD card already power on
INFOsdhw_7xxx_open: id=0
INFO[SD_HW_ERR] SD: No device attached
INFO902910 902E20
FAILED (status read failed (No such file or directory))
I'd like to resolve this as my signal stops, and device reboots randomly.
telaphoneguy said:
Now I'm reading that I can s-off without super-cid?
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Nope, wherever you read that, its completely incorrect.
It says right in the s-off method instructions, in big bold print that SuperCID is required: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
If you are having trouble with s-off, the other solution to random reboots on Sense 5 is to install the Beastmode kernel.
Release the hounds!!
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KungFuCracka94 said:
Release the hounds!!
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I actually started to type "as mentioned in a bazillion different places" after my Beastmode statement in the previous reply. But I decided to be nice!
I checked out this link again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038
i still get an error, it fails on step 6 with message [-] Failed.
I'll give beastmode another shot, i've tried it before, no success.
telaphoneguy said:
I checked out this link again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038
i still get an error, it fails on step 6 with message [-] Failed.
I'll give beastmode another shot, i've tried it before, no success.
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The x-factor exploit fails since its looking for the AT&T CID. For other CIDs, you need to edit it manually using the hex edit method.
If you have trouble with installing Beastmode, I think some folks have had to install Beastmode 2.0 before installing 3.5.
After many attempts, boot loops beastmode reloaded 3.5 finally took.
So now I need to ask if I need s-off, i've done everything except upgrade my radio.
I'll only update my radio if the antenna drops keeps dropping out.
Well, radio went out, no reboots yet, I'll see what else I can try.
no i want to only rooting device, this video help me ? cause title for htc one."but my device hox"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYAS2KN17Y&list=WL2E6DAD3D0702FB02
No it won't work, it's not for this phone. Only ever use guides specifically for this device or you could brick it. As I've already told you, you absolutely cannot root this device without unlocking the bootloader through htcdev first. I'm not sure why you're still searching for ways to do it, they do not exist. There's no point in coming here for advice if you don't even listen to the answers you're given.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
I think you're confused as to what s-off is and unlocking is, they're two entirely different things. You don't use htcdev to get s-off. You use htcdev to unlock your bootloader, and no you cannot unlock your bootloader without htcdev. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't give you root, after unlocking the bootloader you must install a custom recovery and then you can gain root. After gaining root you can get SuperCID and then you can get s-off. If all you want to do is remove some system apps, then you'll just need to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and install root.
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Tnx so much if i think rooting need to s-off but you say "thats two entirely different" .. then why people use to s-off? for change rom ? and i find this video for root its working for my hox ? or only working htc one.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYAS2KN17Y&list=WL2E6DAD3D0702FB02 again tnx. sorry for english
timmaaa said:
No it won't work, it's not for this phone. Only ever use guides specifically for this device or you could brick it. As I've already told you, you absolutely cannot root this device without unlocking the bootloader through htcdev first. I'm not sure why you're still searching for ways to do it, they do not exist. There's no point in coming here for advice if you don't even listen to the answers you're given.
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some people say me "when using htcdev for unlock your warranty get void" thats true ?
Absolutely nowhere within this forum does it say you need s-off to root, because you don't. I've already told you that. I can't view that video for some reason but unless it specifically says it's for the Evita don't use it. All you need is in the Everything Evita link in my signature, do not get information anywhere else, XDA is the only place you need to look.
As I've already told you, if you want to root you need to unlock your bootloader and install a custom recovery first. In the link I mentioned there are guides on how to do this, you need to follow the guide that pertains to your current firmware version.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
No it won't work, it's not for this phone. Only ever use guides specifically for this device or you could brick it. As I've already told you, you absolutely cannot root this device without unlocking the bootloader through htcdev first. I'm not sure why you're still searching for ways to do it, they do not exist. There's no point in coming here for advice if you don't even listen to the answers you're given.
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timmaaa said:
Absolutely nowhere within this forum does it say you need s-off to root, because you don't. I've already told you that. I can't view that video for some reason but unless it specifically says it's for the Evita don't use it. All you need is in the Everything Evita link in my signature, do not get information anywhere else, XDA is the only place you need to look.
As I've already told you, if you want to root you need to unlock your bootloader and install a custom recovery first. In the link I mentioned there are guides on how to do this, you need to follow the guide that pertains to your current firmware version.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 i searched someone info for s-off "s-off, hboot and radio flash only happens if I need to make" sorry i ask much question cause im noob; then give me root link for sense 4.3.3 and hasoon2000's working for me ?
What are your bootloader details?
Sent from my Evita
Cid: htc_m27; Softwarenumber:4.18.401.2 , radio: .51204.167.31 hboot: 1.72.0000 s-on RL htc one x
You're not even in the right forum, this is the HTC One XL / at&t One X (Evita) forum. You need to ask in the HTC One X forum. They're different phones.
Sent from my Evita