Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
djp76 said:
Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
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Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
djp76 said:
I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
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ok forgive my stupidity does unlocking your boot oader give you root access?
If i use the official htc bootloader unlocker will it be the same as using one of the unlocking progs on here or do different versions have different benifits?
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
djp76 said:
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
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no, unlocking bootloader doesnt unlock most partition (you cant flash firmware), S-OFF unlocks all partition (its like actually owning the phone)
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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S-off directly. Don't bother unlocking bootloader. Avoid potential headaches
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app
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so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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I'd go straight to S-OFF because with the newer version of JuopunutBear S-OFF you dont need to have htcdev unlock
The JuopunutBear download is here and the guide you need to follow by ganeshp is here
Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
Here let me do some explaining for you. when you purchase your device it comes with the security on or what is referred to as S-ON. It also comes with a locked bootloader. Now what that means is that as long as you are S-ON you only have read permissions on the internal storage partitions of the device. The locked bootloader will not let you flash unsigned software to the device and it limits the fastboot and ADB commands you can use with the device. When you S-OFF your device you gain read and write permissions to all the partitions. But even after you S-OFF your device you still have to flash a unlocked bootloader or what is commonly called a eng Hboot to be fully unlocked as you can see by the above explanation.
Now to cover the difference between HTC Dev unlock and S-OFF via JuopunutBear. When you use HTC Dev unlock you gain write permissions to your system partition, recovery partition, and your boot partition. But unlike when you are full S-OFF and you just simply flash the ROM as one package via recovery. After using HTC Dev unlock you have to extract the boot.img and flash it via fastboot commands, or you can install 4EXT recovery and the 4EXT Recovery Updater app then enable Smart Flash to flash the boot.img. Now because you do not gain write permissions to all the partitions you can not flash splash screens, radios, or firmware packages when you use HTC Dev unlock.
Now to talk about root, when you root your device you essentially fully open up the line of communication between the OS and the Linux kernel. It allows the OS to have more access to hardware and to a certain extent software. This allows the user to get the full potential out of the device. Now to root the Sensation you just need to flash Superuser or SuperSU via recovery and then install BusyBox from the Google Play store. Now I had originally plained to go into further details and tell you what both are for but I will not right nowcause my stupid phone erased the original much longer post I had wrote when I went to another tab o my browser.
Go to Recognized Contributor malybru's stickie thread " A great starting point for all new Sensation owners" here in the Sensation General forum for links to everything you need to know.
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Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
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Bugger! my HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported by revoloutionary what do i do now?
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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On your details abouit your phone it states that you s-offed using rev but rev said that hboot 1.27.000 is not supported
Any ideas?
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
djp76 said:
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
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Use soff by juopunutbear or do htc-Dev unlocked lock and flash roms while being SON.. For both there re guides in general section
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
djp76 said:
thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
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no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
rzr86 said:
no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
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Ah yes thanks, i shall do that and see what happens
Related
This may be old news, but i followed these directions and got bootloader unlocked... now i just need to figure out s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426179
Nice find...now you should be able to root with Mr root or revolutionary
Revolutionary says I'm not supported.... ;(
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using XDA App
(I will try) and make a script that downgrades your boot loader for compaitability
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Nice find...now you should be able to root with Mr root or revolutionary
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I am going to see if mr. root can help. I haven't tried your tools yet... anything I need to know before i do?
Well mr root is highly based off revolutionary's code, just tweaked to my liking....so I I doubt it will say you compaitable.....however a try won't hurt. ..but if not ill start work on a downgrade tool
Just says my bootloader is not compatable... Downgrading would be great.... I tried flashing a recovery file to backdoor it but came back as " older than current" and stopped...
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are you able to install cwm recovery through fastboot?
nlarge said:
Just says my bootloader is not compatable... Downgrading would be great.... I tried flashing a recovery file to backdoor it but came back as " older than current" and stopped...
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not much helpful, but on htc g2 in a similar situation, when root was done, next step was to push some changes to the partition where the Version number was stored. After that downgrading was possible the way you tried, and after that the S-Off tool worked. But as of now, i think there's no information how to cheat the version in the partition which it contains, or even which that partition is. Or maybe someone already knows this?
Then maybe we try a dd if= command on the right partition to overwrite it?
I'm not sure how you got this to work, because nobody else with the OTA has...
However, if you've gotten it to work, you can root just by flashing a superuser image from: http://androidsu.com/superuser/
You won't have S-Off, but I'm not sure of the appeal of S-Off, to be honest. The only thing you can't do with the HTC tool is flash radio files and the like.
I only tried by placing the pdsumthin.zip on SD card and it wouldn't allow it...
Theoretically an unlocked bootloader should allow that... Even if s-on
nlarge said:
I only tried by placing the pdsumthin.zip on SD card and it wouldn't allow it...
Theoretically an unlocked bootloader should allow that... Even if s-on
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Your bootloader is still locked.
EDIT: in the unlikely event it is unlocked, you'll need to flash a custom recovery before flashing root. There's a guide somewhere on xda that explains all this.
Bootlader even says unlocked at the top... So I am free there...
nlarge said:
Bootlader even says unlocked at the top... So I am free there...
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You found nothing. We've known about this for a while now and is "officially" (HTC) sanctioned, hence it being THEIR WEBSITE AND INSTRUCTIONS.
Now find yourself a nice recovery image (CWM), boot phone into fastboot mode, "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img".
When this is done (don't ask how, the instructions on doing this are EVERYWHERE, including google's dev site -- you can figure it out yourself with google....), you will have a free and open recovery image, and can use that to write/install the su binary and apk (either with flashable zip or through adb shell, either will work).
There is NO NEED for any kind of downgrade.
Edit: And do change your avatar... this is a hacker site, not a sex dating site. Nobody here is interested in seeing that.
Well... No one has been able to unlock it as of when I posted... It was failing... I will try flashing with fastboot... As long as I can use titanium afterwards, s-off isn't that important
Why is the 4gs community so on edge? No one was ever this rude with 4G or any other HTC forum
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Well... No one has been able to unlock it as of when I posted... It was failing... I will try flashing with fastboot... As long as I can use titanium afterwards, s-off isn't that important
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I don't believe that's correct. I believe the issue is that the official HTC Bootloader Unlock process will not work -- and here's the key factor -- on devices that have already used the Revolution S-OFF procedure. I'm absolutely certain that people before you (who had not used Revolutionary) have successfully unlocked their bootloader via HTC's walkthrough.
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Why is the 4gs community so on edge? No one was ever this rude with 4G or any other HTC forum
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Maybe it's because...
You created two threads that have nothing to do with doubleshot development
You didn't even check the General forum to see if there was an active thread about this (there is)
You can't even follow the rooting instructions posted in a thread on this very subject
As dhkr234 points out, all you need to do is flash the recovery zip and then flash the superuser zip. Just please try that. And then change your avatar.
HebrewToYou: I don't believe that's correct. I believe the issue is that the official HTC Bootloader Unlock process will not work -- and here's the key factor -- on devices that have already used the Revolution S-OFF procedure.[
I have been reading that it just kept hanging for everyone even with s-on... that is why I posted that I unlocked... I dont believe flashing recovery will work(yes i know how and tried zip method first).
What is the problem with my avatar? In the year that I have been on the MT4G thread no one has ever once complained about it... why you?
I'm not trying to be rude, I really just want to know why after all this time is it a problem?
ok, unlocked, SU and clockwork recovery all on board.. just stuck at S-on... directories are still read only, and I really would like to be able to use titanium!! but I am closer!!
I am really a noob at rooting, though there are easy steps. However this confuses me. So if anyone can find a very good guide for rooting my Sensation XE running on ICS, that is noob-friendly.
EDIT: All I need to do is to downgrade my HBoot version to 1.17.xxxx - but I want to find the easiest way to do that.
EDIT2: I unlocked my phone's bootloader. Doesn't help with S-Off though. :/
I will have to wait for Revolutionary to update their tool so that my phone can S-Off (since my phone is 1.27.0000)
May I can downgrade my phone back to Gingerbread, but how? And it looks risky, will that can brick my phone?
I'll press the Thank button if your post is helpful enough.
I have found this to be a very useful guide with ICS https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KEQCpmcLGjbkeLmVU0mpLSwZvjNqLSAmNBqyKMus3Ag/edit?hl=en_US
You may also want to check youtube for the unlockr video tutorials, they typically refer back to xda, but will help if you need a visual reference.
socaljohn said:
I have found this to be a very useful guide with ICS https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KEQCpmcLGjbkeLmVU0mpLSwZvjNqLSAmNBqyKMus3Ag/edit?hl=en_US
You may also want to check youtube for the unlockr video tutorials, they typically refer back to xda, but will help if you need a visual reference.
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Thanks for your help.
though the link does not help me
This is the guide to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
If anything in the guide is confusing, Google it as once you get your head around it it's simple!
EddyOS said:
This is the guide to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
If anything in the guide is confusing, Google it as once you get your head around it it's simple!
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So how does this officially root my phone? Which steps shall I take to get it rooted?
i'm SUCH a newb :/
Read the guide, it's all there...Steps 1-3 will do the job
My Hboot version is 1.27.0000
I don't think I can root.
If you're not already S-OFF then you won't be able to root yet
EddyOS said:
If you're not already S-OFF then you won't be able to root yet
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I know.
I rather have to wait for Revolutionary tool to update or try to solve this: [Guide] Successful S-OFF after (wrong S-ON) brick for ICS/GB ,Downgrade S-ON firmware
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ThomasAndroid said:
I know.
I rather have to wait for Revolutionary tool to update or try to solve this: [Guide] Successful S-OFF after (wrong S-ON) brick for ICS/GB ,Downgrade S-ON firmware
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Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
I hope you have been s-off before update because unrevoked won't support it right now. If it show LOCKED on bootloader, this is how I root my Sensation XE.
1. Unlocked the phone using htcdev.com account since no other's method seem possible right now. But if you device already unlock you do not have to do this.
Go to hTCDEV register, click "Unlock Bootloader" and follow the instruction.
2. Install custom recovery, since htc recovery won't flash/install flashble zip correctly. For this I use "Android Recovery Manager". Reboot the phone after unlocked process. Connect the phone with usb cable. Open the Android Recovery Manager > Start > ** Download a recovery ** > HTC Sensation > ClockWorkMod 5.0.2.0 (Pyramid) > follow the instruction on the software. If stuck when device reboot to flash hboot but not yet flash it because can recognised the FASTBOOT(Android Recovery Manager waiting for FASTBOOT). Take out battery, reconnect usb and boot to FASSBOOT.
3. Flash the supersu, as the Android Recovery Manager finish flash the ClockWorkMod you have to install Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip. If fail retry flash 2-3 times, but I am just done 1 time, before on GB I flash two time because fail at 1st time. And now you rooted and reboot your phone.
Try at your own risk.
Summary :
Download Android Recovery Manager and Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip, place the Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip on sdcard. Unlock the phone on htcdev.com, install custom recovery with Android Recovery Manager and flash the supersuser.
* use Superuser version 3.0.7 because the lower version won't support ICS. Use link given and download the right version.
I am using this method on Sensation XE, so try at your own risk. I will not responsible to anything happen. And please do make sure you backup your device first.
# Just hit the thanks button so I and other's will know this method also work for you ;p
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XaQi 101 said:
Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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Man, this solved my problem thank you very much.... btw what rom would you recommend? ARHD? or any?
appreciate the help
I'd start with ARHD as it is close to stock, stable and offers SebastianFM kernel which is great.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA
Raven2k said:
I'd start with ARHD as it is close to stock, stable and offers SebastianFM kernel which is great.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA
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thanks,
btw, do you happen to know how to solve this,
superuser can't update latest SU binary update, it says failed to gain root access.
titanium backup says the same too "no root access"
do you know a link for the latest su binary update? I flashed the
superuser - 3.0.7-d-signed
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Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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that su zip didnt work on my ICS but this one did Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip thank man for pointing me on the right direction
XaQi 101 said:
Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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Thanks but I only unlocked my bootloader. doesn't help with S-Offing.
XaQi 101 said:
Maybe you will try to use Unlock Bootloader from htcdev.com but I can't make sure because I already S-OFF before rooted. But if you find a way to S-OFF you may would like try method above which I use.
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Hi sorry i happened to come across this thread.
I did your method, was able to unlock but i couldnt acheive S-OFF on it.
Qiwei said:
Hi sorry i happened to come across this thread.
I did your method, was able to unlock but i couldnt acheive S-OFF on it.
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Me too.
Actually, that method only unlocks bootloader. :/
ThomasAndroid said:
Me too.
Actually, that method only unlocks bootloader. :/
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ya.. haha trying to find out how to get s-off on it..
Update: Hey say thomas you able to get into clockworkrecovery? cause i managed to get in.. just wondering how to flash the Superuser-3.0.7-d-signed.zip.
Any idea?
hey managed to get it rooted! many thanks for the guide and help!!
wow. how can you manage to get your phone rooted, when your phone is not even S-Off :/
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wow. how can you manage to get your phone rooted, when your phone is not even S-Off :/
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Thomas follow the guide that XaQi 101 gave. Its possible to root without having S-OFF.
Hi, I have my Desire S totally with the stock system. So S-On, bootloader locked and oficial rom 2.3.5 branded from Vodafone Spain. Finally I decided to unlock my desire S and to change the rom, etc. After reading a lot, the following are the steps i want to do for that.
Before all I would like to back up my apps, sms etc, contacts are in google so i dont worry about them.. ¿How could I do it with my stock desire S?
Once i have the back up I will perform these steps:
1.- First to downgrade de Hboot ( mine is 2.00.0002 locked) following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443636
I read that this method has benefits over to unlock by htcdev when you want to fash custom roms, and you dont lose the warranty.
In this step what rom should I use to downgrade if my phone is vodafone Spain branded with rom version 2.10.161.3? maybe this RUU_Saga_Vodafone_UK_1.32.161.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.15_?
2.- Once I have the old Hboot 0.98.00000, unlock it and s-off with revolutionary http://revolutionary.io/
3.- Root with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
4.- Install 4 EXT recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377745
5.- and finally choose a rom, maybe MIUI, and flash it.
Any suggestion/correction or advice?
Thanks!
Which ruu to use I don't know. But step 3 is not necessary. All roms are pre rooted.
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app
Auke11 said:
Which ruu to use I don't know. But step 3 is not necessary. All roms are pre rooted.
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app
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Aha, so once I have unlocked with revolutionary and changed the recovery I could install any custom rom and it will have root already?
Maybe before install the custom rom I should flash the new eng Hboot so i can flash ics roms, right?
Thanks!
An alternative method that worked for me
cregi said:
2.- Once I have the old Hboot 0.98.00000, unlock it and s-off with revolutionary http://revolutionary.io/
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Hi I did not change my Hboot
Following various posts especially this one
"How to root, install EXT4 recovery and custom ROM on HBOOT 2.00.0002"
source http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
by N0elite ( thanks - sorry can't thank you on here yet)
I was able to root my phone with S-On
now it has an unlocked root using HTCDEV Unlock | S-ON | HBOOT 2.00.0002 | 4EXT Recovery v2.2.7 RC5
Note on the HTC dev website you have to Select the bottom option 'all other supported models' from the htc dev unlock root website
as desire S is not listed
then I downloaded a fantastic operating system ( rom) called virtuous Saga which has Sense version 3.6 and android 4.04.
( also via this forum - more thanks to mdeejay - again unable to thanks you on the forum yet)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669497
I did not flash the firmware because I have no idea what that means and it sounded potentially hazardous and I read somewhere you cannot do it with S-ON ( whatever that actually means) - I only installed the saga ROM which works fine with nothing faulty that I have so far tested
I just installed the virtuous saga zip on my sd card, installed it from the recovery screen and then had to flash the boot.img from the zip file using flashboot from my PC
Result - Bluetooth works and my phone has lots of nice updated features also Bluetooth keyboard works perfectly now with this (Again not sure if it makes a difference but this keyboard works using a bluetooth mode called spp rather than HID) And I still have the lovely clock and weather widget - in fact it does not look much different to my old android version - just faster and smoother.
If you try this make sure that your Google account is synced and all contacts are backed up . I also used BookmarksSB to back up bookmarks, Astro to back up all my applications to the sd card, and SMS back up & restore to back up all my sms messages. all free in the Google market.
I also took my sd card out when following the steps to format and clear caches in recovery mode because I did not want to accidentally wipe my SD card.!!
hope this helps
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Hi, I have my Desire S totally with the stock system. So S-On, bootloader locked and oficial rom 2.3.5 branded from Vodafone Spain. Finally I decided to unlock my desire S and to change the rom, etc. After reading a lot, the following are the steps i want to do for that.
Before all I would like to back up my apps, sms etc, contacts are in google so i dont worry about them.. ¿How could I do it with my stock desire S?
Once i have the back up I will perform these steps:
1.- First to downgrade de Hboot ( mine is 2.00.0002 locked) following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443636
I read that this method has benefits over to unlock by htcdev when you want to fash custom roms, and you dont lose the warranty.
In this step what rom should I use to downgrade if my phone is vodafone Spain branded with rom version 2.10.161.3? maybe this RUU_Saga_Vodafone_UK_1.32.161.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.15_?
2.- Once I have the old Hboot 0.98.00000, unlock it and s-off with revolutionary http://revolutionary.io/
3.- Root with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
4.- Install 4 EXT recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377745
5.- and finally choose a rom, maybe MIUI, and flash it.
Any suggestion/correction or advice?
Thanks!
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Your goal is to change the rom and backup your phone's current state. Right? You can follow these simple steps:
a. Unlock bootloader by http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
b. Flash custom recovery (4EXT)
c. Backup your phone by using recovery
d. Install new rom, dont forget to flash boot.img separately (because of your phone was unlocked by htcdev.com)
e. [Optional] Root if need
The steps you're going to take are right. You should write down what RUU you have now in case you want to go back.
It looks like you know enough about rooting and flashing and the alpharev way is the best. Via HTCdev you can't install ICS if I am correct.
Good luck and welcome to the world of rooting!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
Imprest said:
Hi I did not change my Hboot
Following various posts especially this one
"How to root, install EXT4 recovery and custom ROM on HBOOT 2.00.0002"
source http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
by N0elite ( thanks - sorry can't thank you on here yet)
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vndnguyen said:
Your goal is to change the rom and backup your phone's current state. Right? You can follow these simple steps:
a. Unlock bootloader by http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
b. Flash custom recovery (4EXT)
c. Backup your phone by using recovery
d. Install new rom, dont forget to flash boot.img separately (because of your phone was unlocked by htcdev.com)
e. [Optional] Root if need
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Thanks but I wanted to do it without using the official unlock of HTCDEV to avoid to have to flash the boot everytime I flash a rom and lose the warranty.
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The steps you're going to take are right. You should write down what RUU you have now in case you want to go back.
It looks like you know enough about rooting and flashing and the alpharev way is the best. Via HTCdev you can't install ICS if I am correct.
Good luck and welcome to the world of rooting!
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Yeah I wanted to avoid HTCdev...
Is there any way to back up my rom before doing anything?
WIth astro can I back up my apps without beeing root?
Anyone knows what room should I use to do the downgrade being my phone branded from Vodafone Spain?
No, there is no "normal" way to keep your apps and their data.
You can gain temp-root and manually zip+copy the /data/ directory (to retain permissions), I suppose. But I don't think it's something you're able to do. And restoring data from it would be quite some pain, too, and require fixing permissions as far as I remember.
cregi said:
Yeah I wanted to avoid HTCdev...
Is there any way to back up my rom before doing anything?
WIth astro can I back up my apps without beeing root?
Anyone knows what room should I use to do the downgrade being my phone branded from Vodafone Spain?
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No way. You should s-off OR unlock bootloader first.
If you dont want to use htcdev.com to unlock bootloader, you can downgrade hboot and then s-off. Search in the "Desire S General" box, there are 3-4 thread about hboot downgrading and s-off.
Ok so I will do it without back up of apps. Just need to know wich rom to use to downgrade...
Thanks to all!
You could back up the apps without the data using go launcher backup.
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jugg1es said:
You could back up the apps without the data using go launcher backup.
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Without the data means only the apk, right? So the file to install it that most of them are already in the play store. If it is like that, it has not many advantages, but thank you anyway.
I've looked all over the forums, but i can't find an answer, could someone tell me if i can root my phone using SuperOneClick?
Here's what it says when i boot into bootloader:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT ENG S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 2.00.2002 (PG8810000)
RADIO - 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
I would like to install cyanogen mod, and i'm on t-mobile uk if that helps
How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
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How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
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It was originally like that, haven't done anything to it
Your HBOOT says that your phone is S-OFF, which means you have full access to it.
On the other hand, not knowing your OS version, I'm not sure you can root using SuperOneClick - since it only works for Gingerbread.
Since you have S-OFF, just go and find "root for S-OFF users" thread in Development and do what is written there.
Download a rooted custom rom (usually a custom rom is rooted) then flash via recovery. You'll have your DS rooted.
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Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
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yaonos said:
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
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Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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4EXT is a Recovery - has nothing to do with being rooted or not rooted
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Judging by your answer, I strongly advise you to stay away from rooting your phone, and reading a lot instead.
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Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC. It may not be necessary if a custom recovery has already been flashed to your phone. Check your recovery before proceeding to flash a custom one.
Once you have a custom recovery installed, your can flash SuperSu from this recovery to your ROM. You'll then have rooted your current ROM and will be able to make backups before trying to flash alternate ROMs. At minimum you should make a nandroid backup from the recovery ; it will allow you to come back to your current ROM in case your not satisfied with the alternate ROMs.
But take your time and read the stickies in order to be sure you understand what you are doing before proceeding further.
ben_pyett said:
One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
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Yes, i did buy my device new
alpha192 said:
Yes, i did buy my device new
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New device and already S-OFF?
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miwanr said:
New device and already S-OFF?
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Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
yaonos said:
Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC.
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Not necessarily at all. Regular bootloaders, even when S-OFF, don't allow fastboot commands. If you try executing it on phone that was S-OFF-ed with XTC-Clip, for example, it'll fail.
For that the bootloader has to be re-engineered (or engineering bootloader flashed).
why exactly do u want to root your phone? do u want to flash a custom rom or do u want root access for the heck of it?
if u want to flash a custom rom then i suggest you go through this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850574
it has links to some other threads.. finally please do make a backup of your original rom in case u dont like the custom rom
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Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
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In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
yaonos said:
In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
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I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
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I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
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I got my phone new from T-mobile and the only thing i've done to my phone software wise would be upgrading sense to 3.0 which was via the ota.
i thing best for u is to unlock ur bootloader flash r ecovery and superuser , flash a custom rom and follow this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919 good luck
Hey folks, forgive me if this is the wrong section but i could not find a section dedicated to the XE, only the standard sensation and XL.
I've done some serious looking arround and there are so many guides & tools across the various guides i'm confused. Some require htcdev, some don't and other stuff.
What i'm looking to do is simple
Permanently root the my phone with NO custom recovery (but the option to do so later cause it will be rooted) so i can still receive official updates because the HTC Sensation XE is scheduled for a android 4.1 or 4.2 update
My basic phone stuff is:
HTC Sensation XE
Android 4.03
HTC sense 3.6
Softwarenumber 3.33.401.154
Hboot 1.27 if i recall correct
What's the easiest way to do this.
Rooting procedure for sensation and sensation xe is same...
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you can use htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader or
use this guide to S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
Every guide, rom or tweak for the 'normal' Sensation will work fine on the XE, as it has the exact same hardware. The XL has different hardware though.
That first link already "confuses".
first it starts talking about doesnt need htcdev unlocked bootloader, 2 lines below it sais it does need it. Then it links to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
I am registered on HTCDev.com but my device isnt listed, only the normal sensation (eu). I suppose i can pick that one? Then even further down that thread it talks about a new version that only requires temp root, or even a wire trick
see where i'm getting confused?
I'm on the stock rom (and plan to remain that way), no s-off (i was rooted when the phone had android 2.3.4 but flashed the update before i rerooted so i lost root). I'd rather not unlock the bootloader to void warrant and just gain s-off to be able to install superuser from the android market, cause i know thats the tool that actually grants aps root access
Actually if you have done htcdev then use the guide you mentioned
But if you haven't done htcdev then use the guide i linked to you
About temp root it must be done in order to have success for S-OFF
In any case follow the guide to the letter
Edit:you said that you were rooted when you were at 2.3.4 android
That means you did S-OFF with revolutionary method
Are you sure that you aren't still S-OFF;
About devices list you can choose all other supported devices
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So i should first try the HTCDev method?
Confirmed i'm no longer S-OFF, the update to ICS 403 failed because of the CWM recovery that got installed. I had to reset to factory settings in order to flash it, but after restoring i forgot to root again and straight updated to ICS so lost the root.
I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
Then there's this
but it's always recommended to follow HTCDEV unlock way as the wire trick there is easier
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See my whole confusing thing? I need simple instructions
As said i only want root access with no custom recovery so i can continue to get phone updates. If there's a non-stock version of like CWM that will let me do that well either is fine.
Mine fits this topics title. hboot 1.27 & FW 3.33(401.154) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870233
Then there's afaik this guide that fits too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
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I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
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it means that after htcdev unlock method you have to be rooted which means installed also custom recovery in order to use this S-OFF guide
so you don't need that in your case
so you have 2 options
use htcdev and leave it as it is or
use ganeshp S-OFF guide(i haven't seen anywhere for installing custom recovery or maybe i am so blind!)
Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps
Ch3vr0n said:
Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps
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in your case then i suggest you to follow htcdev method
because the guide you posted requires htcdev unlock method
also the tool that provides,you are using it to install custom recovery and then use root
i mean that you can't use the tool to root your device without installing first custom recovery
so proceed with htcdev unlock method
Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do
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Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do
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Then in this case best solution is my way of soff.. Guide Link in my signature..
In the pre-requisites of the unlimited.io official site you can skip the htcdev unlock part.. As this is special case..
1. just follow the guide to the letter... Then once soff is done.. Do the one clock root tool that's all
(the reason I quoted to do HTCDev unlock over this method is because the wire trick is kinda easier that way.. But you don't want HTCdev unlock and custom recovery so.. Just do what I said)
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Edit: based on your previous posts I want to confirm something first.... Dont do any thing now and just part the complete bootloader details here.. Then I'll guide you further
(I suspect you are already SOFF... But let's see)
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It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access
Ch3vr0n said:
It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access
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you are S-OFF already
also no root access
no custom recovery
then don't do nothing
well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.
Ch3vr0n said:
well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.
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the red tringle means that you have stock recovery
if you want to have root access try to install the su app from google play store
i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
when i install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu it sais no super user binairy is installed, does there lie the problem ?
Ch3vr0n said:
i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
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try this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5zdXBlcnN1Il0.
that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted
Ch3vr0n said:
that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted
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hmm,
the only thing i can tell you is from ganeshp guide use only the one click root tool
see if you will succeed
but see also the prerequisites