I've looked all over the forums, but i can't find an answer, could someone tell me if i can root my phone using SuperOneClick?
Here's what it says when i boot into bootloader:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT ENG S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 2.00.2002 (PG8810000)
RADIO - 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
I would like to install cyanogen mod, and i'm on t-mobile uk if that helps
How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
oddoneout said:
How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
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It was originally like that, haven't done anything to it
Your HBOOT says that your phone is S-OFF, which means you have full access to it.
On the other hand, not knowing your OS version, I'm not sure you can root using SuperOneClick - since it only works for Gingerbread.
Since you have S-OFF, just go and find "root for S-OFF users" thread in Development and do what is written there.
Download a rooted custom rom (usually a custom rom is rooted) then flash via recovery. You'll have your DS rooted.
Sent from my Desire S
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
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yaonos said:
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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4EXT is a Recovery - has nothing to do with being rooted or not rooted
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Judging by your answer, I strongly advise you to stay away from rooting your phone, and reading a lot instead.
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
Sywepd form my DsereiS
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC. It may not be necessary if a custom recovery has already been flashed to your phone. Check your recovery before proceeding to flash a custom one.
Once you have a custom recovery installed, your can flash SuperSu from this recovery to your ROM. You'll then have rooted your current ROM and will be able to make backups before trying to flash alternate ROMs. At minimum you should make a nandroid backup from the recovery ; it will allow you to come back to your current ROM in case your not satisfied with the alternate ROMs.
But take your time and read the stickies in order to be sure you understand what you are doing before proceeding further.
ben_pyett said:
One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Yes, i did buy my device new
alpha192 said:
Yes, i did buy my device new
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New device and already S-OFF?
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miwanr said:
New device and already S-OFF?
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Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
yaonos said:
Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC.
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Not necessarily at all. Regular bootloaders, even when S-OFF, don't allow fastboot commands. If you try executing it on phone that was S-OFF-ed with XTC-Clip, for example, it'll fail.
For that the bootloader has to be re-engineered (or engineering bootloader flashed).
why exactly do u want to root your phone? do u want to flash a custom rom or do u want root access for the heck of it?
if u want to flash a custom rom then i suggest you go through this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850574
it has links to some other threads.. finally please do make a backup of your original rom in case u dont like the custom rom
SimonTS said:
Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
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In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
yaonos said:
In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
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I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
SimonTS said:
I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
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I got my phone new from T-mobile and the only thing i've done to my phone software wise would be upgrading sense to 3.0 which was via the ota.
i thing best for u is to unlock ur bootloader flash r ecovery and superuser , flash a custom rom and follow this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919 good luck
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I need to S-OFF, Install ClockWork Recovery,and obtain SuperCID, then I install the custom rom.
I don't need to root it first, right?
You only need to root and install recovery,personally I never did the siper cid etc and I flash roms on mine.
It will take you ten mins tops but just make sure you read all the documentation first. Oh, do the nandroid back up also incase it goes tits up
p1yke said:
You only need to root and install recovery,personally I never did the siper cid etc and I flash roms on mine.
It will take you ten mins tops but just make sure you read all the documentation first. Oh, do the nandroid back up also incase it goes tits up
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I thought you need supercid to install custom rom. And if you want supercid, you need to install ClockWork Recovery and s-off. Am I right?
nick_martin said:
I thought you need supercid to install custom rom. And if you want supercid, you need to install ClockWork Recovery and s-off. Am I right?
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Super CID helps when you need to flash official HTC Roms/RUU from different carriers or unbranding a carrier phone using the HBoot method. It really doesn't come into play with custom Roms flashed with a custom recovery.
You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. Then you can either root your current Installed Rom or flash a custom rooted Rom.
tpbklake said:
Super CID helps when you need to flash official HTC Roms/RUU from different carriers or unbranding a carrier phone using the HBoot method. It really doesn't come into play with custom Roms flashed with a custom recovery.
You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. Then you can either root your current Installed Rom or flash a custom rooted Rom.
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"You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. " what do u mean by "or"? I just need to s-off to install custom rooted rom or I still need install ClockWork Recovery?
nick_martin said:
"You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. " what do u mean by "or"? I just need to s-off to install custom rooted rom or I still need install ClockWork Recovery?
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You need to have ClockworkMod recovery installed to flash custom Roms.
There are 2 methods that allow you to flash ClockworkMod. 1. Run revolutionary to S-off your phone. 2. Use the HTC Unlocker to unlock the boot loader. Method 1 is the best option.
Sorry for the nooby question but what would be an advantage to having superCID and being able to flash other official Roms/RUU's?
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Marioag_0412 said:
Sorry for the nooby question but what would be an advantage to having superCID and being able to flash other official Roms/RUU's?
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I suppose if you bought a phone from a private seller that was unbranded or branded for another area, and you want to use the official ROM for your area.
Some people just like to play with stuff, so...
Other than that, I can't think of any, but who knows?
You can flash any custom ROM you want without SuperCID.
P.
Hello,
I have finally decided to go down the path of custom roms. Have read around quite a bit and decided that the best idea would probably be to root using the downgrade method instead of using the HTC unlock method so that I would also get S-OFF (to be able to change kernel and radio).
Q1: Do you think this is a good choice?
Q2: If I indeed use the downgrade method, would it then in som way be possible to flash 4ext recovery and do a system backup of my current setup before downgrading?
Q3: Do I actually need to be able to change kernel/radio? Will many custom roms need a change of kernel?
Q4: Is it possible to return to stock recovery/rom from both of these methods in case need of warranty?
Many thanks!
/Neorth
1) Hell Yes. Best thing i did to my phone.
2) On your current setup, you'll need to flash the boot.img file from each ROM via fastboot after you flash it. If you use downgrade, This step is not needed. I reccomend you downgrade.
3) Every ROM has a built in kernel (boot.img) which will automatically change when you flash it. Do not mess with your radio, changing it does not make a lot of difference and it's risky. (if you don't downgrade, you can't change radio at all)
4) From downgrade, yes. From HTC Dev unlock, only partially. You can restore ROM an recovery, but your bootloader will only say Re_locked.
Thanks for your answers!
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2) On your current setup, you'll need to flash the boot.img file from each ROM via fastboot after you flash it. If you use downgrade, This step is not needed. I reccomend you downgrade.
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I think you missunderstood me on this one. My current setup is stock (S-ON, unrooted). What I want to do is to backup before I wipe the current rom, would that be possible?
shrome99 said:
3) Every ROM has a built in kernel (boot.img) which will automatically change when you flash it. Do not mess with your radio, changing it does not make a lot of difference and it's risky. (if you don't downgrade, you can't change radio at all)
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I think I will downgrade but would this work even if I use the HTC unlock method? Think I read that you can't change kernel if you're only root with S-ON.
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4) From downgrade, yes. From HTC Dev unlock, only partially. You can restore ROM an recovery, but your bootloader will only say Re_locked.
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Then I guess downgrade it is!
Oh yes i did To answer question 2, yes you can. Unlock your phone Via HTCDev.com, flash 4ext recovery.img from fastboot and nandroid backup.
Ok, so if I want a backup I'll still have to unlock via HTCDev.com. Guess I better start to write down my current settings..
Now I've downgraded! Have also run revolutionary but not quite there yet as I have some questions so I won't do anything stupid
Q5. I want 4ext recovery instead of the clockwork mod so I answered no when revolutionary asked me to install that one. After that I've become a little nervous because I don't know if it's safe ro reboot without flashing a custom recovery, is it?
Q6. Can I reboot and install 4ext recovery from the phone (from market or apk)?
Q7. Why does revolutionary has it's own hboot (6.98.1002) and am I supposed to stick with it?
Thanks again!
Neorth said:
Now I've downgraded! Have also run revolutionary but not quite there yet as I have some questions so I won't do anything stupid
Q5. I want 4ext recovery instead of the clockwork mod so I answered no when revolutionary asked me to install that one. After that I've become a little nervous because I don't know if it's safe ro reboot without flashing a custom recovery, is it?
Q6. Can I reboot and install 4ext recovery from the phone (from market or apk)?
Q7. Why does revolutionary has it's own hboot (6.98.1002) and am I supposed to stick with it?
Thanks again!
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You should rerun rev and install cwm then u can replace it with 4ext by downloading the app from market and flashing it from within the app
You'll need to flash superuser using cwm first though.
Yes you should replace the rev hboot with a standard engineering hboot. There are advantages as in some instances the rev hboot cannot be overwritten.
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Is it really possible to run revolutionary on hboot 6.98.1002?
I rebooted without problem. So I guess the problem is that I don't have su access? Any walk around for this?
Yes, but you need CWM first, that'll give you EVERYTHING you want. Follow this to get CWM and get root access - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14693680 Then, download the 4Ext recovery control app (it needs root) and flash 4ext recovery.
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Ah, perfect! I'm working my way through the different guides and are now in this stage:
SAGA PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.98.2000 (PG8810000)
RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
Have also got 4ext as recovery so all is great so far
Now I just have to decide on which custom ROM to start with. Think Quattro, Endymion and Reaper are the top candidates
Btw, do you think I should upgrade to the latest hboot-2.00.2002? And should I upgrade to the latest radio? And should I in that case do that before or after ROM?
No need for touching your radio or hboot. I've never flashes an hboot and the one time i flashed a radio, my phone almost got bricked.
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Thanks for your help shrome99!
I'm now running Reaper v.1.5 and it runs smooth
Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced
dr69 said:
Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced
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Hi,
You should be OK to just install something like ARHD ROM
It contains root and recovery,which are installed when you flash the ROM...
On the [OP] is also a superwipe which will clean and prepare your phone for the new ROM.
Backup your stuff,place the superwipe and ROM on the root of your sd card and flash from recovery
Thanks for.your response but I'm really not interested in installing Custom Roms at the moment, just Stock Rom for now.
Can you please if u know or have any info on doing the.rooting and Custom Recovery by myself.
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Easy enough ..find chainfires supersu thread and at the bottom download the attachment flash it..but before that..put your device in fast boot via USB..flash any recovery like say cwr(cwm) by typing fastboot flash recovery recoverynamehere.img then flash root file on your SD let me know if your confused
Sent from an AOKP Sensation 4G
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
kgs1992 said:
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?
Yo_2T said:
I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?
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Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.
Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
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dr69 said:
Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
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4EXT touch. If you'd please care to read the tool thread.
kgs1992 said:
Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.
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Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?
Yo_2T said:
Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?
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You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.
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You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.
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So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.
Yo_2T said:
So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.
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Revolutionary is an engineering (ENG) bootloader
Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
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HOLY CRAP! can this be any more confusing. I've been following this thread waiting for a final answer and still nothing. If anyone gets this done, please do a step by step for those of us not willing to blaze new ground here.
I know there are tons of us in the same boat. Upgraded to ICS stock and wanting to keep the ROM, just open ourselves up to CWM flashing options and root required apps.
Based on what the original poster is going through here, most of us do not want to chase down link after link.
I'll keep watching hoping for a final answer. Make the last post a link to the STEP by STEP.
Thanks all for your patience.
Look, you basically need a bootloader that says *unlocked*, *revolutionary* & *juopunutbear*.
If you are S Off but locked, flash an ENG Hboot.
If you are S On & locked, unlock using HTC Dev or S Off using JB.
Now, after this, flash 4EXT recovery & then root the device.
If your Hboot version is less than 1.27 flash firmware.
I'm assuming you are already on stock, so you have a stock rooted rom with custom recovery.
All of these can be done using my tool.
That's about as much I can help you with.
Also, when you talk about being new, look at when I've joined & when you'll have.
I got my first android phone a month ago & I'm on XDA since less than 3 weeks!
(No offence meant, but please try searching)
dr69 said:
Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
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Just try my... One click root... Guide in my signature... No recovery required.. Just soff is enough
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves
Regarding ur tool v6.4.2
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I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it
dr69 said:
ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it
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Too many questions, seems you're confused.
Please head to IRC & find me there. SigPic (REALTIME IRC) has link.
EDIT: To briefly explain, it doesn't matter Revolutionary S Off or Juopunut Bear S Off.
The ENG Hboot is compatible with both.
After this, you can choose to install custom recovery if you want to or, just root right away.
It is always advisable to have custom recovery installed.
Ok this is the pics of the.tool scroolong up all the time
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Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
djp76 said:
Hi everyone
I am finally going to take the plunge and root my sensation what i would like to know is can you essentially clone your phone/apps so you dont have to re-install every app when your done rooting?
Does z4root work on the sensation and would this be the best way to do it?
Thanks peeps
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Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
djp76 said:
I thought that unlocking the boot loader wipe you phone :/
I just want root access, time to look into it
Thanks for the reply :good:
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ok forgive my stupidity does unlocking your boot oader give you root access?
If i use the official htc bootloader unlocker will it be the same as using one of the unlocking progs on here or do different versions have different benifits?
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
djp76 said:
ok so unlocking the bootloader is the same as saying S-Off just different jargon yeah?
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no, unlocking bootloader doesnt unlock most partition (you cant flash firmware), S-OFF unlocks all partition (its like actually owning the phone)
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
djp76 said:
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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S-off directly. Don't bother unlocking bootloader. Avoid potential headaches
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djp76 said:
so should i bother with the htc bootloader unlocker or just go straight to s-off?
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I'd go straight to S-OFF because with the newer version of JuopunutBear S-OFF you dont need to have htcdev unlock
The JuopunutBear download is here and the guide you need to follow by ganeshp is here
Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
Here let me do some explaining for you. when you purchase your device it comes with the security on or what is referred to as S-ON. It also comes with a locked bootloader. Now what that means is that as long as you are S-ON you only have read permissions on the internal storage partitions of the device. The locked bootloader will not let you flash unsigned software to the device and it limits the fastboot and ADB commands you can use with the device. When you S-OFF your device you gain read and write permissions to all the partitions. But even after you S-OFF your device you still have to flash a unlocked bootloader or what is commonly called a eng Hboot to be fully unlocked as you can see by the above explanation.
Now to cover the difference between HTC Dev unlock and S-OFF via JuopunutBear. When you use HTC Dev unlock you gain write permissions to your system partition, recovery partition, and your boot partition. But unlike when you are full S-OFF and you just simply flash the ROM as one package via recovery. After using HTC Dev unlock you have to extract the boot.img and flash it via fastboot commands, or you can install 4EXT recovery and the 4EXT Recovery Updater app then enable Smart Flash to flash the boot.img. Now because you do not gain write permissions to all the partitions you can not flash splash screens, radios, or firmware packages when you use HTC Dev unlock.
Now to talk about root, when you root your device you essentially fully open up the line of communication between the OS and the Linux kernel. It allows the OS to have more access to hardware and to a certain extent software. This allows the user to get the full potential out of the device. Now to root the Sensation you just need to flash Superuser or SuperSU via recovery and then install BusyBox from the Google Play store. Now I had originally plained to go into further details and tell you what both are for but I will not right nowcause my stupid phone erased the original much longer post I had wrote when I went to another tab o my browser.
Go to Recognized Contributor malybru's stickie thread " A great starting point for all new Sensation owners" here in the Sensation General forum for links to everything you need to know.
djp76 said:
Thankyou both very much,i shall continue my quest tomorrow as its a bit late to start all this now.
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Bugger! my HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported by revoloutionary what do i do now?
MikeDVH said:
Once you've unlocked the boot loader and installed a custom recovery such as Clockwork or 4ext, you can do what's called a nandroid backup which basically takes an image of your phone - software, apps, data, the lot - which means that if anything goes wrong you can just restore that and it'll be exactly how it was when you backed it up.
Rooting your phone in itself shouldn't mean that you have to re-install any apps. Rooting just means that you give yourself full access to your phone's system. However, if you decided to install a new ROM, you would then need to replace your apps and one of the most popular and best ways of doing this is with an app called Titanium Backup - there are others, but this is what I use and it's never failed me.
I have no knowledge of z4root. I used a guide on here somewhere to root my phone, via something called Revolutionary.
Hope that helps. :thumbup::thumbup:
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On your details abouit your phone it states that you s-offed using rev but rev said that hboot 1.27.000 is not supported
Any ideas?
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
djp76 said:
Can anyone please tell me what to do next?
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Use soff by juopunutbear or do htc-Dev unlocked lock and flash roms while being SON.. For both there re guides in general section
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thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
djp76 said:
thanks ganeshp i just found the juopunutbear updated version,looks like im gonna have to htc devunlock first.
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no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
rzr86 said:
no wait with ganeshp's guide you can achieve S-OFF without htc dev unlock
take a look first
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Ah yes thanks, i shall do that and see what happens
Dear All,
I am a completely new to android apart from the fact that I just received a HTC Inspire 4G! I do not have AT&T service in my country and am currently using sim from a local service provider. So I updated my device to Android 2.3.5 and HTC Sense 3.0.
I want to try Jellytime Jellybean in my Inspire 4G. I read many articles (including those in XDA, but since I am very inexperienced, all of these just fly over my head!! I want some step-by-step instructions on how to root HTC Inspire 4G and install Jellytime JellyBean on this device. What's given in the Jellytime Google code webpage in few lines is very very abstract and I don't understand a word of it!
Can some experienced people help me..?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Ron
Read the Ace Think Tank thread linked in my signature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38571636
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You dont have to root S-Off to install custom JB Rom. I just unlocked bootloader.
bananagranola said:
Read the Ace Think Tank thread linked in my signature.
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So, If I got it right,
1. I have to use EasyAceRootTool given here to root.
2. To install custom ROMs in INspire 4G, I don't have to do S-OFF, but just unlocking the bootloader will be sufficient (which is the whole purpose of using EasyAceRootTool).
3. If at all I need to do S-OFF, I can use HTCDEV tool, but it is for advanced users (and I am not going to try that unless it is absolutely necessary)
4. So, after rooting Inspire 4G with EaseyAceRootTool, I can flash Jellytime ROM (JB 4.2.2 R8 probably..?).
Following are my further questions..
a) If I use EasyAceRootTool and followed the instruction given at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38571636 to root my phone, will I be able to unroot it to the stock ROM later so that I save my warranty? I've htc_inspire4g_att_RUU_3.20.502.52_US, the latest update for Inspire 4G downloaded from HTC/AT&T website, so If I want to unroot and change back to this ROM, will it be possible? or do I need to download any other apps/tools to accomplish this?
b) How do I practically INSTALL Jellytime..? Can't understand a word after reading their instructions (Which I am reproducing below):
Install Instructions:
Reboot into Recovery - How to I do this? Do I need to install anyother tools other than EasyAceRootTool?
Wipe data/factory reset(if using 4EXT recovery wipe everything except sd) Can I do this without any software and how?
Install zip from sdcard
Inspire users flash Inspiremod
Install latest gapps
Fix permissions What exactly do I have to do here?
Reboot!
Thanks a lot again,
I know most of these questions might have been answered, but I am completely lost in the sea of information and can't get to the right one. Please help!
Ron
Ron Shinde said:
So, If I got it right,
1. I have to use EasyAceRootTool given here to root.
2. To install custom ROMs in INspire 4G, I don't have to do S-OFF, but just unlocking the bootloader will be sufficient (which is the whole purpose of using EasyAceRootTool).
3. If at all I need to do S-OFF, I can use HTCDEV tool, but it is for advanced users (and I am not going to try that unless it is absolutely necessary)
4. So, after rooting Inspire 4G with EaseyAceRootTool, I can flash Jellytime ROM (JB 4.2.2 R8 probably..?).
Following are my further questions..
a) If I use EasyAceRootTool and followed the instruction given at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38571636 to root my phone, will I be able to unroot it to the stock ROM later so that I save my warranty? I've htc_inspire4g_att_RUU_3.20.502.52_US, the latest update for Inspire 4G downloaded from HTC/AT&T website, so If I want to unroot and change back to this ROM, will it be possible? or do I need to download any other apps/tools to accomplish this?
b) How do I practically INSTALL Jellytime..? Can't understand a word after reading their instructions (Which I am reproducing below):
Install Instructions:
Reboot into Recovery - How to I do this? Do I need to install anyother tools other than EasyAceRootTool?
Wipe data/factory reset(if using 4EXT recovery wipe everything except sd) Can I do this without any software and how?
Install zip from sdcard
Inspire users flash Inspiremod
Install latest gapps
Fix permissions What exactly do I have to do here?
Reboot!
Thanks a lot again,
I know most of these questions might have been answered, but I am completely lost in the sea of information and can't get to the right one. Please help!
Ron
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1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. No. HTCDEV does not give you S-Off. Easy Ace just automates the HTCDEV process.
4. Yes. Each time after you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img from the ROM zip. Instructions for that are in my signature.
A. No. Once unlocked there is a record.
B. Reboot into recovery by holding power and volume-down. Everything else is an option in the recovery. Easy Ace Root Tool isn't installed on your phone, it is a tool run from your computer to unlock your phone.
bananagranola said:
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. No. HTCDEV does not give you S-Off. Easy Ace just automates the HTCDEV process.
4. Yes. Each time after you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img from the ROM zip. Instructions for that are in my signature.
A. No. Once unlocked there is a record.
B. Reboot into recovery by holding power and volume-down. Everything else is an option in the recovery. Easy Ace Root Tool isn't installed on your phone, it is a tool run from your computer to unlock your phone.
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I I got you right, when you said "A. No, Once unlocked there is a record", you meant the device can not be unrooted to htc_inspire4g_att_RUU_3.20.502.52_US once it is rooted using EasyAceRootTool. RIght?
Sorry for being so noob. :
You can relock it and run the RUU, but the bootloader will say "relocked."
bananagranola said:
You can relock it and run the RUU, but the bootloader will say "relocked."
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In essense, I can not get the warranty back...
Ron Shinde said:
In essense, I can not get the warranty back...
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Yes.
bananagranola said:
Yes.
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I'm using the Inspire 4G with custom JB 4.2.2 Rom. I did use the HTCDEV to unlock bootloader.from there on your warranty is voided. It is a real improvement with google now and longer 20-30% battery life. i even put new bigger 1800mah battery off ebay from the original 1250mah one.
mikk65 said:
I'm using the Inspire 4G with custom JB 4.2.2 Rom. I did use the HTCDEV to unlock bootloader.from there on your warranty is voided. It is a real improvement with google now and longer 20-30% battery life. i even put new bigger 1800mah battery off ebay from the original 1250mah one.
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That's interesting...could you please then detail the steps you followed so that I will be able to follow that too..
Thanks in advance,
Ron.
Ron Shinde said:
That's interesting...could you please then detail the steps you followed so that I will be able to follow that too..
Thanks in advance,
Ron.
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Unlock bootloader was first thing i did @ htcdev than followed these steps >>>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31211732&postcount=396
What is this option S-Off used for..?And do i need to consider it while flashing a custom rom
You don't need to S-Off to flash Roms. I believe S-Off would indicate phone was rooted.
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qtpcert said:
What is this option S-Off used for..?And do i need to consider it while flashing a custom rom
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It allows you to flash to all partitions including radios, and you don't need to flash the boot.img separately each time you flash a ROM the way you do with an S-On unlocked bootloader. Bit both allow ROM flashing.
mikk65 said:
You don't need to S-Off to flash Roms. I believe S-Off would indicate phone was rooted.
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Root is completely separate from S-Off. Unlocked bootloader can also allow root.
Thanks <bananagranola>
So at what point I should think of flasing radios...and I am assuming that with the option S-Off, I can flash the rom not the radio right...
qtpcert said:
Thanks
So at what point I should think of flasing radios...and I am assuming that with the option S-Off, I can flash the rom not the radio right...
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1. If your radio works I wouldn't bother. S-On is easier than S-Off to get now. But with S-Off you can flash radios; with S-On you can't.
2. Yes.
When you mention flash radio is that reg music radio?
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mikk65 said:
When you mention flash radio is that reg music radio?
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Huh??