Hello,
I have finally decided to go down the path of custom roms. Have read around quite a bit and decided that the best idea would probably be to root using the downgrade method instead of using the HTC unlock method so that I would also get S-OFF (to be able to change kernel and radio).
Q1: Do you think this is a good choice?
Q2: If I indeed use the downgrade method, would it then in som way be possible to flash 4ext recovery and do a system backup of my current setup before downgrading?
Q3: Do I actually need to be able to change kernel/radio? Will many custom roms need a change of kernel?
Q4: Is it possible to return to stock recovery/rom from both of these methods in case need of warranty?
Many thanks!
/Neorth
1) Hell Yes. Best thing i did to my phone.
2) On your current setup, you'll need to flash the boot.img file from each ROM via fastboot after you flash it. If you use downgrade, This step is not needed. I reccomend you downgrade.
3) Every ROM has a built in kernel (boot.img) which will automatically change when you flash it. Do not mess with your radio, changing it does not make a lot of difference and it's risky. (if you don't downgrade, you can't change radio at all)
4) From downgrade, yes. From HTC Dev unlock, only partially. You can restore ROM an recovery, but your bootloader will only say Re_locked.
Thanks for your answers!
shrome99 said:
2) On your current setup, you'll need to flash the boot.img file from each ROM via fastboot after you flash it. If you use downgrade, This step is not needed. I reccomend you downgrade.
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I think you missunderstood me on this one. My current setup is stock (S-ON, unrooted). What I want to do is to backup before I wipe the current rom, would that be possible?
shrome99 said:
3) Every ROM has a built in kernel (boot.img) which will automatically change when you flash it. Do not mess with your radio, changing it does not make a lot of difference and it's risky. (if you don't downgrade, you can't change radio at all)
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I think I will downgrade but would this work even if I use the HTC unlock method? Think I read that you can't change kernel if you're only root with S-ON.
shrome99 said:
4) From downgrade, yes. From HTC Dev unlock, only partially. You can restore ROM an recovery, but your bootloader will only say Re_locked.
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Then I guess downgrade it is!
Oh yes i did To answer question 2, yes you can. Unlock your phone Via HTCDev.com, flash 4ext recovery.img from fastboot and nandroid backup.
Ok, so if I want a backup I'll still have to unlock via HTCDev.com. Guess I better start to write down my current settings..
Now I've downgraded! Have also run revolutionary but not quite there yet as I have some questions so I won't do anything stupid
Q5. I want 4ext recovery instead of the clockwork mod so I answered no when revolutionary asked me to install that one. After that I've become a little nervous because I don't know if it's safe ro reboot without flashing a custom recovery, is it?
Q6. Can I reboot and install 4ext recovery from the phone (from market or apk)?
Q7. Why does revolutionary has it's own hboot (6.98.1002) and am I supposed to stick with it?
Thanks again!
Neorth said:
Now I've downgraded! Have also run revolutionary but not quite there yet as I have some questions so I won't do anything stupid
Q5. I want 4ext recovery instead of the clockwork mod so I answered no when revolutionary asked me to install that one. After that I've become a little nervous because I don't know if it's safe ro reboot without flashing a custom recovery, is it?
Q6. Can I reboot and install 4ext recovery from the phone (from market or apk)?
Q7. Why does revolutionary has it's own hboot (6.98.1002) and am I supposed to stick with it?
Thanks again!
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You should rerun rev and install cwm then u can replace it with 4ext by downloading the app from market and flashing it from within the app
You'll need to flash superuser using cwm first though.
Yes you should replace the rev hboot with a standard engineering hboot. There are advantages as in some instances the rev hboot cannot be overwritten.
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Is it really possible to run revolutionary on hboot 6.98.1002?
I rebooted without problem. So I guess the problem is that I don't have su access? Any walk around for this?
Yes, but you need CWM first, that'll give you EVERYTHING you want. Follow this to get CWM and get root access - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14693680 Then, download the 4Ext recovery control app (it needs root) and flash 4ext recovery.
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Ah, perfect! I'm working my way through the different guides and are now in this stage:
SAGA PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.98.2000 (PG8810000)
RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
Have also got 4ext as recovery so all is great so far
Now I just have to decide on which custom ROM to start with. Think Quattro, Endymion and Reaper are the top candidates
Btw, do you think I should upgrade to the latest hboot-2.00.2002? And should I upgrade to the latest radio? And should I in that case do that before or after ROM?
No need for touching your radio or hboot. I've never flashes an hboot and the one time i flashed a radio, my phone almost got bricked.
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Thanks for your help shrome99!
I'm now running Reaper v.1.5 and it runs smooth
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I need to S-OFF, Install ClockWork Recovery,and obtain SuperCID, then I install the custom rom.
I don't need to root it first, right?
You only need to root and install recovery,personally I never did the siper cid etc and I flash roms on mine.
It will take you ten mins tops but just make sure you read all the documentation first. Oh, do the nandroid back up also incase it goes tits up
p1yke said:
You only need to root and install recovery,personally I never did the siper cid etc and I flash roms on mine.
It will take you ten mins tops but just make sure you read all the documentation first. Oh, do the nandroid back up also incase it goes tits up
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I thought you need supercid to install custom rom. And if you want supercid, you need to install ClockWork Recovery and s-off. Am I right?
nick_martin said:
I thought you need supercid to install custom rom. And if you want supercid, you need to install ClockWork Recovery and s-off. Am I right?
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Super CID helps when you need to flash official HTC Roms/RUU from different carriers or unbranding a carrier phone using the HBoot method. It really doesn't come into play with custom Roms flashed with a custom recovery.
You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. Then you can either root your current Installed Rom or flash a custom rooted Rom.
tpbklake said:
Super CID helps when you need to flash official HTC Roms/RUU from different carriers or unbranding a carrier phone using the HBoot method. It really doesn't come into play with custom Roms flashed with a custom recovery.
You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. Then you can either root your current Installed Rom or flash a custom rooted Rom.
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"You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. " what do u mean by "or"? I just need to s-off to install custom rooted rom or I still need install ClockWork Recovery?
nick_martin said:
"You do need to have either S-Off or an unlocked boot loader to flash a custom recovery such as ClockworkMod. " what do u mean by "or"? I just need to s-off to install custom rooted rom or I still need install ClockWork Recovery?
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You need to have ClockworkMod recovery installed to flash custom Roms.
There are 2 methods that allow you to flash ClockworkMod. 1. Run revolutionary to S-off your phone. 2. Use the HTC Unlocker to unlock the boot loader. Method 1 is the best option.
Sorry for the nooby question but what would be an advantage to having superCID and being able to flash other official Roms/RUU's?
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Marioag_0412 said:
Sorry for the nooby question but what would be an advantage to having superCID and being able to flash other official Roms/RUU's?
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I suppose if you bought a phone from a private seller that was unbranded or branded for another area, and you want to use the official ROM for your area.
Some people just like to play with stuff, so...
Other than that, I can't think of any, but who knows?
You can flash any custom ROM you want without SuperCID.
P.
Can anyone please tell me how to install a custom ROM onto my Desire S with the bootloader unlocked via HTC Dev and S-ON?
My guess is that you install CWMR and flash it via that. But you need root access to do that, I thought unlocking the bootloader was meant to eliminate this.
Also, I've been reading that people are having issues installing ROMs this way, they are experiencing a hang at the HTC logo on boot.
Any information will be greatly appreciated, thank you.
spagmuff said:
Can anyone please tell me how to install a custom ROM onto my Desire S with the bootloader unlocked via HTC Dev and S-ON?
My guess is that you install CWMR and flash it via that. But you need root access to do that, I thought unlocking the bootloader was meant to eliminate this.
Also, I've been reading that people are having issues installing ROMs this way, they are experiencing a hang at the HTC logo on boot.
Any information will be greatly appreciated, thank you.
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After you flash the custom ROM using CWM, you then have to extract the boot.img file from the ROM.zip file and manually flash it in FASTBOOT mode. That is the nature of the unlocked bootloader. The boot partition is not mounted R/W in recovery mode, it is only mounted R/W when you are in bootloader FASTBOOT mode.
Ok, from reading yours and various other posts in the forum, I need to do the following to install a custom ROM with an unlocked bootloader and S-ON:
1. Unlock bootloader via HTC's website
2. Root phone (with gingerbreak apk?)
3. Install CWM via ROM manager
4. Backup existing ROM with CWM and backup files with titanium
5. Install ROM via CWM (wipe data, wipe cache, install ROM)
6. Flash boot.img (HBOOT, fastboot, and flash image)
7.Reboot into cyanogenmod
If I have anything wrong, please let me know. Thanks.
spagmuff said:
Ok, from reading yours and various other posts in the forum, I need to do the following to install a custom ROM with an unlocked bootloader and S-ON:
1. Unlock bootloader via HTC's website
2. Root phone (with gingerbreak apk?)
3. Install CWM via ROM manager
4. Backup existing ROM with CWM and backup files with titanium
5. Install ROM via CWM (wipe data, wipe cache, install ROM)
6. Flash boot.img (HBOOT, fastboot, and flash image)
7.Reboot into cyanogenmod
If I have anything wrong, please let me know. Thanks.
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Step 2 and 3 are not necessary. After you Unlock the bootloader, you could then simply flash ClockworkMod in FASTBOOT mode.
1. Unlock bootloader.
2. Flash CWM image in FASTBOOT mode.
3. Backup existing ROM with CWM.
etc.
Successfully installed latest nightly r2 yesterday night :O
All is fine, 3D performance is smoothly and fine...
Thanks for yours posts
I would also like to thank you tpbklake, haven't tried it yet, but I'm sure it'll work!
I will be getting a new unbranded Desire S in a couple of days,
In case it will be running HBOOT 2.00.0002 with S-ON will I be still able to flash a custom rom on the device? AKAIK S-ON only protects the radio from being modified.
sorry, I'm new to this
edit: okay i read its not possible to flash a custom rom, but then what can i do when I rooted and flashed a custom recovery?
kjdfkvdjjndvldmv; awesome
xStreame said:
I will be getting a new unbranded Desire S in a couple of days,
In case it will be running HBOOT 2.00.0002 with S-ON will I be still able to flash a custom rom on the device? AKAIK S-ON only protects the radio from being modified.
sorry, I'm new to this
edit: okay i read its not possible to flash a custom rom, but then what can i do when I rooted and flashed a custom recovery?
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Either isn't possible without s-off, look at the index thread, it's all there.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream
I'm on an Inc2 but since it's basically the same I hope this applies...
I'm in the same position as the OP with the newly unlocked bootloader via HTC.
I flashed cwm through fastboot but now I can't reflash through ROM Manager. I installed both SuperUser and BusyBox but both point the finger at eachother saying the other needs to be installed. What am I missing??
Kayak83 said:
I'm on an Inc2 but since it's basically the same I hope this applies...
I'm in the same position as the OP with the newly unlocked bootloader via HTC.
I flashed cwm through fastboot but now I can't reflash through ROM Manager. I installed both SuperUser and BusyBox but both point the finger at eachother saying the other needs to be installed. What am I missing??
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Download the latest su-3.0.x.zip file. Then boot into CWM recovery and install this zip file. This will root the current ROM you have installed and then ROM Manager and BusyBox will both be happy.
@korenisko
So you unlocked via HTC dev, flashed custom recovery, wiped all partitions, flashed cyanogenmod, rebooted into fastboot, flashed boot.img via fastboot (fastboot flash boot /pathtobootimg/boot.img, if i recall correctly) and then you were able to boot into cyanogen?
I did exactly these steps (only with 4ext instead of cwm, which shouldn't affect the result) and was stuck with the white bootscreen and no adb logcat output whatsoever.
Currently I am back on a prerooted official RUU (2.3.3), but it still performs really bad and I would like to have cyanogenmod.
Btw: I have a Desire S, hboot 2.00.0002, S-ON, no carrier branding.
Thanks,
wenzlern
The currect way
I Have HTC Desire S with original Rom 2.10.401.8 and HBOOT 2.00.0002 S-On
My goal is to install the Endymon
I read many thread and i understood that the curret way to do this is:
Downgrade My ROM from 2.3.5 ( 2.10.401.8 with HBOOT 2.00.0002) to a ROM 2.3.3 with HBOOT 0.98.00000 (Ex: RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.exe)
To do this i need to follow the steps from 1 to 7 of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
Now i need to change HBOOT, Change Recovery and Root the phone. To do this i need to use Revolutionary tool for Windows from http://revolutionary.io/ and follow the istruction.
Now i can download the custom Rom and install using this way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257731
Is It right?
Thanks
Hello, I just want to share my experience on how i managed to S-OFF my phone. My main problem was that I had the latest ruu on 2.10.401.8 and couldnt downgrade. Even though i unlocked the bootloader using the htcdev .bin file I couldnt install the proper recovery (clockwork mod) nor a previous ruu. So here is what I did.
I first unlocked the phone using the htcdev.
Then I followed those pretty 7 steps mentioned on prev post.
and changed my version to a prev one.
I r e l o c k e d my phone using htc supertool and
clicked my 1.47 ruu exe file. That worked and it downgraded my phone.
After that it was a piece of cake to use the revolutionary tool to S-OFF.
Thanks all the xda community for the infos i got and managed to do it....
cheers
mannkan said:
Hello, I just want to share my experience on how i managed to S-OFF my phone. My main problem was that I had the latest ruu on 2.10.401.8 and couldnt downgrade. Even though i unlocked the bootloader using the htcdev .bin file I couldnt install the proper recovery (clockwork mod) nor a previous ruu. So here is what I did.
I first unlocked the phone using the htcdev.
Then I followed those pretty 7 steps mentioned on prev post.
and changed my version to a prev one.
I r e l o c k e d my phone using htc supertool and
clicked my 1.47 ruu exe file. That worked and it downgraded my phone.
After that it was a piece of cake to use the revolutionary tool to S-OFF.
Thanks all the xda community for the infos i got and managed to do it....
cheers
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Congrats. XDA is really helpful.
Sarina,
No need to wipe dalvik cache?
bcoz few ROM's developers days it a must!!!!
I trying to flash CM7.1 stable version.
mannkan said:
Hello, I just want to share my experience on how i managed to S-OFF my phone. My main problem was that I had the latest ruu on 2.10.401.8 and couldnt downgrade. Even though i unlocked the bootloader using the htcdev .bin file I couldnt install the proper recovery (clockwork mod) nor a previous ruu. So here is what I did.
I first unlocked the phone using the htcdev.
Then I followed those pretty 7 steps mentioned on prev post.
and changed my version to a prev one.
I r e l o c k e d my phone using htc supertool and
clicked my 1.47 ruu exe file. That worked and it downgraded my phone.
After that it was a piece of cake to use the revolutionary tool to S-OFF.
Thanks all the xda community for the infos i got and managed to do it....
cheers
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Many thanks for this it has helped me get S-off again after a very frustrating weekend.
Hi, I have my Desire S totally with the stock system. So S-On, bootloader locked and oficial rom 2.3.5 branded from Vodafone Spain. Finally I decided to unlock my desire S and to change the rom, etc. After reading a lot, the following are the steps i want to do for that.
Before all I would like to back up my apps, sms etc, contacts are in google so i dont worry about them.. ¿How could I do it with my stock desire S?
Once i have the back up I will perform these steps:
1.- First to downgrade de Hboot ( mine is 2.00.0002 locked) following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443636
I read that this method has benefits over to unlock by htcdev when you want to fash custom roms, and you dont lose the warranty.
In this step what rom should I use to downgrade if my phone is vodafone Spain branded with rom version 2.10.161.3? maybe this RUU_Saga_Vodafone_UK_1.32.161.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.15_?
2.- Once I have the old Hboot 0.98.00000, unlock it and s-off with revolutionary http://revolutionary.io/
3.- Root with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
4.- Install 4 EXT recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377745
5.- and finally choose a rom, maybe MIUI, and flash it.
Any suggestion/correction or advice?
Thanks!
Which ruu to use I don't know. But step 3 is not necessary. All roms are pre rooted.
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Auke11 said:
Which ruu to use I don't know. But step 3 is not necessary. All roms are pre rooted.
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Aha, so once I have unlocked with revolutionary and changed the recovery I could install any custom rom and it will have root already?
Maybe before install the custom rom I should flash the new eng Hboot so i can flash ics roms, right?
Thanks!
An alternative method that worked for me
cregi said:
2.- Once I have the old Hboot 0.98.00000, unlock it and s-off with revolutionary http://revolutionary.io/
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Hi I did not change my Hboot
Following various posts especially this one
"How to root, install EXT4 recovery and custom ROM on HBOOT 2.00.0002"
source http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
by N0elite ( thanks - sorry can't thank you on here yet)
I was able to root my phone with S-On
now it has an unlocked root using HTCDEV Unlock | S-ON | HBOOT 2.00.0002 | 4EXT Recovery v2.2.7 RC5
Note on the HTC dev website you have to Select the bottom option 'all other supported models' from the htc dev unlock root website
as desire S is not listed
then I downloaded a fantastic operating system ( rom) called virtuous Saga which has Sense version 3.6 and android 4.04.
( also via this forum - more thanks to mdeejay - again unable to thanks you on the forum yet)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669497
I did not flash the firmware because I have no idea what that means and it sounded potentially hazardous and I read somewhere you cannot do it with S-ON ( whatever that actually means) - I only installed the saga ROM which works fine with nothing faulty that I have so far tested
I just installed the virtuous saga zip on my sd card, installed it from the recovery screen and then had to flash the boot.img from the zip file using flashboot from my PC
Result - Bluetooth works and my phone has lots of nice updated features also Bluetooth keyboard works perfectly now with this (Again not sure if it makes a difference but this keyboard works using a bluetooth mode called spp rather than HID) And I still have the lovely clock and weather widget - in fact it does not look much different to my old android version - just faster and smoother.
If you try this make sure that your Google account is synced and all contacts are backed up . I also used BookmarksSB to back up bookmarks, Astro to back up all my applications to the sd card, and SMS back up & restore to back up all my sms messages. all free in the Google market.
I also took my sd card out when following the steps to format and clear caches in recovery mode because I did not want to accidentally wipe my SD card.!!
hope this helps
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cregi said:
Hi, I have my Desire S totally with the stock system. So S-On, bootloader locked and oficial rom 2.3.5 branded from Vodafone Spain. Finally I decided to unlock my desire S and to change the rom, etc. After reading a lot, the following are the steps i want to do for that.
Before all I would like to back up my apps, sms etc, contacts are in google so i dont worry about them.. ¿How could I do it with my stock desire S?
Once i have the back up I will perform these steps:
1.- First to downgrade de Hboot ( mine is 2.00.0002 locked) following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443636
I read that this method has benefits over to unlock by htcdev when you want to fash custom roms, and you dont lose the warranty.
In this step what rom should I use to downgrade if my phone is vodafone Spain branded with rom version 2.10.161.3? maybe this RUU_Saga_Vodafone_UK_1.32.161.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.15_?
2.- Once I have the old Hboot 0.98.00000, unlock it and s-off with revolutionary http://revolutionary.io/
3.- Root with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916 or this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
4.- Install 4 EXT recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377745
5.- and finally choose a rom, maybe MIUI, and flash it.
Any suggestion/correction or advice?
Thanks!
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Your goal is to change the rom and backup your phone's current state. Right? You can follow these simple steps:
a. Unlock bootloader by http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
b. Flash custom recovery (4EXT)
c. Backup your phone by using recovery
d. Install new rom, dont forget to flash boot.img separately (because of your phone was unlocked by htcdev.com)
e. [Optional] Root if need
The steps you're going to take are right. You should write down what RUU you have now in case you want to go back.
It looks like you know enough about rooting and flashing and the alpharev way is the best. Via HTCdev you can't install ICS if I am correct.
Good luck and welcome to the world of rooting!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
Imprest said:
Hi I did not change my Hboot
Following various posts especially this one
"How to root, install EXT4 recovery and custom ROM on HBOOT 2.00.0002"
source http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
by N0elite ( thanks - sorry can't thank you on here yet)
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vndnguyen said:
Your goal is to change the rom and backup your phone's current state. Right? You can follow these simple steps:
a. Unlock bootloader by http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
b. Flash custom recovery (4EXT)
c. Backup your phone by using recovery
d. Install new rom, dont forget to flash boot.img separately (because of your phone was unlocked by htcdev.com)
e. [Optional] Root if need
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Thanks but I wanted to do it without using the official unlock of HTCDEV to avoid to have to flash the boot everytime I flash a rom and lose the warranty.
SkiesOfDoom said:
The steps you're going to take are right. You should write down what RUU you have now in case you want to go back.
It looks like you know enough about rooting and flashing and the alpharev way is the best. Via HTCdev you can't install ICS if I am correct.
Good luck and welcome to the world of rooting!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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Yeah I wanted to avoid HTCdev...
Is there any way to back up my rom before doing anything?
WIth astro can I back up my apps without beeing root?
Anyone knows what room should I use to do the downgrade being my phone branded from Vodafone Spain?
No, there is no "normal" way to keep your apps and their data.
You can gain temp-root and manually zip+copy the /data/ directory (to retain permissions), I suppose. But I don't think it's something you're able to do. And restoring data from it would be quite some pain, too, and require fixing permissions as far as I remember.
cregi said:
Yeah I wanted to avoid HTCdev...
Is there any way to back up my rom before doing anything?
WIth astro can I back up my apps without beeing root?
Anyone knows what room should I use to do the downgrade being my phone branded from Vodafone Spain?
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No way. You should s-off OR unlock bootloader first.
If you dont want to use htcdev.com to unlock bootloader, you can downgrade hboot and then s-off. Search in the "Desire S General" box, there are 3-4 thread about hboot downgrading and s-off.
Ok so I will do it without back up of apps. Just need to know wich rom to use to downgrade...
Thanks to all!
You could back up the apps without the data using go launcher backup.
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jugg1es said:
You could back up the apps without the data using go launcher backup.
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Without the data means only the apk, right? So the file to install it that most of them are already in the play store. If it is like that, it has not many advantages, but thank you anyway.
I've looked all over the forums, but i can't find an answer, could someone tell me if i can root my phone using SuperOneClick?
Here's what it says when i boot into bootloader:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT ENG S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 2.00.2002 (PG8810000)
RADIO - 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
I would like to install cyanogen mod, and i'm on t-mobile uk if that helps
How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
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How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
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It was originally like that, haven't done anything to it
Your HBOOT says that your phone is S-OFF, which means you have full access to it.
On the other hand, not knowing your OS version, I'm not sure you can root using SuperOneClick - since it only works for Gingerbread.
Since you have S-OFF, just go and find "root for S-OFF users" thread in Development and do what is written there.
Download a rooted custom rom (usually a custom rom is rooted) then flash via recovery. You'll have your DS rooted.
Sent from my Desire S
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
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yaonos said:
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
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Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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4EXT is a Recovery - has nothing to do with being rooted or not rooted
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Judging by your answer, I strongly advise you to stay away from rooting your phone, and reading a lot instead.
alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
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alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC. It may not be necessary if a custom recovery has already been flashed to your phone. Check your recovery before proceeding to flash a custom one.
Once you have a custom recovery installed, your can flash SuperSu from this recovery to your ROM. You'll then have rooted your current ROM and will be able to make backups before trying to flash alternate ROMs. At minimum you should make a nandroid backup from the recovery ; it will allow you to come back to your current ROM in case your not satisfied with the alternate ROMs.
But take your time and read the stickies in order to be sure you understand what you are doing before proceeding further.
ben_pyett said:
One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
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Yes, i did buy my device new
alpha192 said:
Yes, i did buy my device new
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New device and already S-OFF?
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miwanr said:
New device and already S-OFF?
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Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
yaonos said:
Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC.
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Not necessarily at all. Regular bootloaders, even when S-OFF, don't allow fastboot commands. If you try executing it on phone that was S-OFF-ed with XTC-Clip, for example, it'll fail.
For that the bootloader has to be re-engineered (or engineering bootloader flashed).
why exactly do u want to root your phone? do u want to flash a custom rom or do u want root access for the heck of it?
if u want to flash a custom rom then i suggest you go through this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850574
it has links to some other threads.. finally please do make a backup of your original rom in case u dont like the custom rom
SimonTS said:
Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
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In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
yaonos said:
In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
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I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
SimonTS said:
I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
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I got my phone new from T-mobile and the only thing i've done to my phone software wise would be upgrading sense to 3.0 which was via the ota.
i thing best for u is to unlock ur bootloader flash r ecovery and superuser , flash a custom rom and follow this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919 good luck
Hi All,
I have been reading various guides on how to flash my HTC Sensation it is currently running the stock ICS 4.0.3 and using HBOOT 1.27. I would like to update it to Jellybean and I have been looking at the CyanogenMod for this or if someone else has any other suggestions. With the current software my phone is running really slow and lags.
I am really confused on what the best procedure is and how to do it, I have found this utility but if someone could give me some hints to where I start.
I think I may have got the drift of some things:
1. Go to HTCDEV and unlock the bootloader
2. Take S-OFF using JuopunutBear
3. Install 4EXT
4. Become SuperCID
5. Flash new Jellybean ROM
Options 1 and 2 seem OK but I am not sure how to proceed with the other steps and if it is the way I should be doing it and it is is all possible with my phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
fayraz said:
Hi All,
I have been reading various guides on how to flash my HTC Sensation it is currently running the stock ICS 4.0.3 and using HBOOT 1.27. I would like to update it to Jellybean and I have been looking at the CyanogenMod for this or if someone else has any other suggestions. With the current software my phone is running really slow and lags.
I am really confused on what the best procedure is and how to do it, I have found this utility but if someone could give me some hints to where I start.
I think I may have got the drift of some things:
1. Go to HTCDEV and unlock the bootloader
2. Take S-OFF using JuopunutBear
3. Install 4EXT
4. Become SuperCID
5. Flash new Jellybean ROM
Options 1 and 2 seem OK but I am not sure how to proceed with the other steps and if it is the way I should be doing it and it is is all possible with my phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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there is no need to do both steps 1 and 2
go can use either this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
or this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
only with the second guide you can supercid
After looking at SuperCID is it really necessary? Or do you need to do this for custom ROMS. I know its for carrier specific ROMS but my phone is not branded.
fayraz said:
After looking at SuperCID is it really necessary? Or do you need to do this for custom ROMS. I know its for carrier specific ROMS but my phone is not branded.
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it is not necessary for custom roms
it is only useful for flashing any ruu.exe
fayraz said:
After looking at SuperCID is it really necessary? Or do you need to do this for custom ROMS. I know its for carrier specific ROMS but my phone is not branded.
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rzr86 said:
it is not necessary for custom roms
it is only useful for flashing any ruu.exe
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+1. Not to mention, if u are upgrading from ics to jb, there's no need for ruu. Your current firmware (3.32/3.33) will support jb. So you could flash jb even s-on.
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I have Software Version 3.33.401.53 so I can just:
1. Unlock the boot loader
2. Flash a recovery using the all in one tool
3. Flash cyanmod 10
Is this correct?
fayraz said:
I have Software Version 3.33.401.53 so I can just:
1. Unlock the boot loader
2. Flash a recovery using the all in one tool
3. Flash cyanmod 10
Is this correct?
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Yes. Remember to use 4ext recovery with SmartFlash. See this.
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Thanks for all your help, I managed to flah Cyanogen 9 the stable version which is Android Version 4.0.4, when version 10 is stable or stops going nightly I will flash to that to get JellyBean unless there is a stable ROM anyone knows about.
Also I see that this ROM has ROM Manager installed and you can flash ClockwordMod Recovery is it worth doing that or shall I just stick to 4EXT?
And
If I was to flash another ROM I guess I just do it from 4EXT and will this wipe all my data and apps again?
fayraz said:
Thanks for all your help, I managed to flah Cyanogen 9 the stable version which is Android Version 4.0.4, when version 10 is stable or stops going nightly I will flash to that to get JellyBean unless there is a stable ROM anyone knows about.
Also I see that this ROM has ROM Manager installed and you can flash ClockwordMod Recovery is it worth doing that or shall I just stick to 4EXT?
And
If I was to flash another ROM I guess I just do it from 4EXT and will this wipe all my data and apps again?
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You are correct. Flash Roms from 4ext. You can back up your apps and the data with titanium backup.
By the way, albino's cyanogenmod 10.1 is labeled as stable. It has really good performance and has pretty much no bugs.
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fayraz said:
Thanks for all your help, I managed to flah Cyanogen 9 the stable version which is Android Version 4.0.4, when version 10 is stable or stops going nightly I will flash to that to get JellyBean unless there is a stable ROM anyone knows about.
Also I see that this ROM has ROM Manager installed and you can flash ClockwordMod Recovery is it worth doing that or shall I just stick to 4EXT?
And
If I was to flash another ROM I guess I just do it from 4EXT and will this wipe all my data and apps again?
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AndroidSupporter318 said:
By the way, albino's cyanogenmod 10.1 is labeled as stable. It has really good performance and has pretty much no bugs.
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+1.
Also ,since you are s-on, stick to 4ext recovery.
Far_SighT said:
+1.
Also ,since you are s-on, stick to 4ext recovery.
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I'll stick to 4EXT and I guess when I want to flash new ROMs I should always select smart flash because I have S-ON?
fayraz said:
I'll stick to 4EXT and I guess when I want to flash new ROMs I should always select smart flash because I have S-ON?
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yes or you can install 4ext updater and from settings choose smartflash on(permanent smartflash)
check from this guide on how to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (step 5)
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I'll stick to 4EXT and I guess when I want to flash new ROMs I should always select smart flash because I have S-ON?
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rzr86 said:
yes or you can install 4ext updater and from settings choose smartflash on(permanent smartflash)
check from this guide on how to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (step 5)
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SmartFlash is, in a way, the easiest way to flash roms s-on.
ALTERNATIVELY, to flash roms s-on (without smartflash), say with some other recovery,
Extract boot.img from whichever rom you want to flash. It typically resides in the kernel folder.
Enter fastboot mode and use:
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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