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Root and Overclock on a sensation with ics?

Hello Guys!
I've tried to read lot of things in sensation development thread, but i can't understand a thing ..
I have this sensation htc and I upgraded to ics, but I'd like to have the root and overclocking.
I just do not understand what it means hboot, s-boot!
You can please explain to me step by step what should I do?
I managed to understand that the version of bootloader + 1.27 and just .. thanks so much!
I've found this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668276
Can this works?
Wich options i have to use?
Thanks

So you have the factory Ics 4.0 with 3.6 sense?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

So you're still s on and you have the official update correct.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

I'm on ics because i've upgraded with official update..

davibs said:
I'm on ics because i've upgraded with official update..
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YOU SHOULD GO TO YOUTUBE AND FOLLOW THE VIDEO TUTORIAL for soff if I find the link ill Bessie to pm you
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OreoBoyVa said:
YOU SHOULD GO TO YOUTUBE AND FOLLOW THE VIDEO TUTORIAL for soff if I find the link ill Bessie to pm you
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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You can do s-off on with ICS 4.03 with the new firmware?

sanvara said:
You can do s-off on with ICS 4.03 with the new firmware?
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I believe this is the automatic way but here is the manual way for s-off on 1.2x http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631

Try to root with S On & *locked* using the rooting method in my tool.
I believe Busybox & SU is being installed, but the binaries are not present.
You can try and see if it works for you.
I'm trying to get it to work on S On & *locked* devices.

kgs1992 said:
Try to root with S On & *locked* using the rooting method in my tool.
I believe Busybox & SU is being installed, but the binaries are not present.
You can try and see if it works for you.
I'm trying to get it to work on S On & *locked* devices.
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Mhh..with this i can have error?
I prefer to don't have error but have a custom rom and kernel with root

davibs said:
Mhh..with this i can have error?
I prefer to don't have error but have a custom rom and kernel with root
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The only error is that the file doesn't exist for S On & *locked* users, although I can't confirm if this because this is true I've only heard about this from a couple of users.
The rest of the tool is bug free.
If you want to install a custom ROM then you will have to do either one of the following:
Use HTC Dev Unlock & Stay S On.
S Off without voiding your warranty. and then continue with this tutorial from step 1
Now, for the second method, you can also use my tool.
And frankly, because you are starting from scratch, the tool will make everything easy. Here's the options that you need to select:
First, S Off.
then Install 4EXT Recovery
then Install Firmware
then download your ROM & Install by selecting install ZIP from recovery.

kgs1992 said:
The only error is that the file doesn't exist for S On & *locked* users, although I can't confirm if this because this is true I've only heard about this from a couple of users.
The rest of the tool is bug free.
If you want to install a custom ROM then you will have to do either one of the following:
Use HTC Dev Unlock & Stay S On.
S Off without voiding your warranty. and then continue with this tutorial from step 1
Now, for the second method, you can also use my tool.
And frankly, because you are starting from scratch, the tool will make everything easy. Here's the options that you need to select:
First, S Off.
then Install 4EXT Recovery
then Install Firmware
then download your ROM & Install by selecting install ZIP from recovery.
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I have an error while trying to use S-OFF ( option 2)
When i press 0 at the ask if i hav unlocked the bootloader, the cmd prompt exit and open another prompt with an error, like " Not a valid argument"

davibs said:
I have an error while trying to use S-OFF ( option 2)
When i press 0 at the ask if i hav unlocked the bootloader, the cmd prompt exit and open another prompt with an error, like " Not a valid argument"
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I'm sorry, I guess the filename I used was wrong.
Please replace the menu file with this one from this zip.

kgs1992 said:
I'm sorry, I guess the filename I used was wrong.
Please replace the menu file with this one from this zip.
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Can't i install other rom or root without s-off? ( i have unlocked bootloader)

Ok, i've unlocked bootloader with htc dev and now root.
Can now install Ext recovery withou S-Off?
So, now?

davibs said:
Ok, i've unlocked bootloader with htc dev and now root.
Can now install Ext recovery withou S-Off?
So, now?
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Yes, once you are HTC Dev unlocked, you can. If you can't install the recovery, new version of the tool in a few minutes, which will make it possible.

kgs1992 said:
Yes, once you are HTC Dev unlocked, you can. If you can't install the recovery, new version of the tool in a few minutes, which will make it possible.
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So i will wait, thanks
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

I was in your state as well. I was trying to see wait whether Revolutionary.io would produce a newer version for the HBOOT 1.27. But I got tired of waiting and just went on to use other methods. In the beginning, it's a bit confusing. It took me a while to understand everything. But once you follow the steps, everything should become more simple.
A problem that I encounter was install 4EXT Recovery. I couldn't install it at first. I just install Clockwork's Recovery and flashed the ROM I picked. Then I went ahead and downloaded the apk for the 4EXT Recovery and install it from there. It was troublesome in the beginning, but it was well worth it.
My suggestion is that you should do HTC Dev Unlock first. Then S-OFF.

silverboi17 said:
I was in your state as well. I was trying to see wait whether Revolutionary.io would produce a newer version for the HBOOT 1.27. But I got tired of waiting and just went on to use other methods. In the beginning, it's a bit confusing. It took me a while to understand everything. But once you follow the steps, everything should become more simple.
A problem that I encounter was install 4EXT Recovery. I couldn't install it at first. I just install Clockwork's Recovery and flashed the ROM I picked. Then I went ahead and downloaded the apk for the 4EXT Recovery and install it from there. It was troublesome in the beginning, but it was well worth it.
My suggestion is that you should do HTC Dev Unlock first. Then S-OFF.
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But i wanma stay s on, i don't wanna try wire trick.
How can i install recovery with s on?
Bootloader os unlocked from htc dev, phone is rooted.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA

davibs said:
But i wanma stay s on, i don't wanna try wire trick.
How can i install recovery with s on?
Bootloader is unlocked from htc dev, phone is rooted.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA
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davibs said:
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA
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The tool has been updated.
Use the normal method first. (The new method is now the normal method)

Sensation 4G ICS Rooting Guide Needed

Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced

dr69 said:
Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced
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Hi,
You should be OK to just install something like ARHD ROM
It contains root and recovery,which are installed when you flash the ROM...
On the [OP] is also a superwipe which will clean and prepare your phone for the new ROM.
Backup your stuff,place the superwipe and ROM on the root of your sd card and flash from recovery

Thanks for.your response but I'm really not interested in installing Custom Roms at the moment, just Stock Rom for now.
Can you please if u know or have any info on doing the.rooting and Custom Recovery by myself.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

Easy enough ..find chainfires supersu thread and at the bottom download the attachment flash it..but before that..put your device in fast boot via USB..flash any recovery like say cwr(cwm) by typing fastboot flash recovery recoverynamehere.img then flash root file on your SD let me know if your confused
Sent from an AOKP Sensation 4G

I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off

kgs1992 said:
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?

Yo_2T said:
I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?
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Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.

Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

dr69 said:
Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
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4EXT touch. If you'd please care to read the tool thread.

kgs1992 said:
Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.
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Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?

Yo_2T said:
Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?
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You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.

kgs1992 said:
You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.
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So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.

Yo_2T said:
So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.
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Revolutionary is an engineering (ENG) bootloader

Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

HOLY CRAP! can this be any more confusing. I've been following this thread waiting for a final answer and still nothing. If anyone gets this done, please do a step by step for those of us not willing to blaze new ground here.
I know there are tons of us in the same boat. Upgraded to ICS stock and wanting to keep the ROM, just open ourselves up to CWM flashing options and root required apps.
Based on what the original poster is going through here, most of us do not want to chase down link after link.
I'll keep watching hoping for a final answer. Make the last post a link to the STEP by STEP.
Thanks all for your patience.

Look, you basically need a bootloader that says *unlocked*, *revolutionary* & *juopunutbear*.
If you are S Off but locked, flash an ENG Hboot.
If you are S On & locked, unlock using HTC Dev or S Off using JB.
Now, after this, flash 4EXT recovery & then root the device.
If your Hboot version is less than 1.27 flash firmware.
I'm assuming you are already on stock, so you have a stock rooted rom with custom recovery.
All of these can be done using my tool.
That's about as much I can help you with.
Also, when you talk about being new, look at when I've joined & when you'll have.
I got my first android phone a month ago & I'm on XDA since less than 3 weeks!
(No offence meant, but please try searching)

dr69 said:
Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
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Just try my... One click root... Guide in my signature... No recovery required.. Just soff is enough
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves

Regarding ur tool v6.4.2
kgs1992 said:
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it

dr69 said:
ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it
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Too many questions, seems you're confused.
Please head to IRC & find me there. SigPic (REALTIME IRC) has link.
EDIT: To briefly explain, it doesn't matter Revolutionary S Off or Juopunut Bear S Off.
The ENG Hboot is compatible with both.
After this, you can choose to install custom recovery if you want to or, just root right away.
It is always advisable to have custom recovery installed.

Ok this is the pics of the.tool scroolong up all the time
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

HTC Chacha HELP!!!

Hii i'm new here & i'm not a total noob at flashing & rooting phones but i really need help :crying:, i have a HTC Chacha that i have been trying to achieve S-OFF & root but none of the sources that i've used worked, Ive tried HTCdev Unlocker, SuperOneclick, & even gingerbreak it all failed can someone please help me i'd really deeply appreciate it im getting tired of having to delete apps to make room for new ones i want. so please help me
Carrier: AT&T
Phone: HTC Chaha
Android Version: 2.3.5
Software Number: 2.14.502.2
Currenty: S-On
HBoot: 1.13.0000
Radio: 7.57.35.08

xShyNez said:
Hii i'm new here & i'm not a total noob at flashing & rooting phones but i really need help :crying:, i have a HTC Chacha that i have been trying to achieve S-OFF & root but none of the sources that i've used worked, Ive tried HTCdev Unlocker, SuperOneclick, & even gingerbreak it all failed can someone please help me i'd really deeply appreciate it im getting tired of having to delete apps to make room for new ones i want. so please help me
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I don't think you can s-off without xtc clip, which is special hardware?
But you can unlock the bootloader through HTC dev and root later. Have you succeeded there with unlocking only?

mdbs said:
I don't think you can s-off without xtc clip, which is special hardware?
But you can unlock the bootloader through HTC dev and root later. Have you succeeded there with unlocking only?
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Noo i havent unlocked the boot loader yet i have tried to use the HTCdev to unlock it but i keep getting the "Error [190]" every time i try it.

xShyNez said:
Noo i havent unlocked the boot loader yet i have tried to use the HTCdev to unlock it but i keep getting the "Error [190]" every time i try it.
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Follow steps 1 and 2 of my tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475575
I had the same problem as you when trying to unlock the boot loader :/ it's because you haven't had the over-the-air update to 1.57 software version probably.
After you've done that, then either follow this tutorial to root your phone, or just install a custom rom like which is already rooted

ethancottier said:
Follow steps 1 and 2 of my tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475575
I had the same problem as you when trying to unlock the boot loader :/ it's because you haven't had the over-the-air update to 1.57 software version probably.
After you've done that, then either follow this tutorial to root your phone, or just install a custom rom like which is already rooted
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Ok i shall try & follow those steps & ill give you a feed back if it works, i really do hope it works :\

ethancottier said:
Follow steps 1 and 2 of my tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475575
I had the same problem as you when trying to unlock the boot loader :/ it's because you haven't had the over-the-air update to 1.57 software version probably.
After you've done that, then either follow this tutorial to root your phone, or just install a custom rom like which is already rooted
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I have followed your 1st step in your tutorial & it was working but in the end of installing the 1.57 RUU it gave me an "ERROR [140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR" any suggestions to what shoould i do to get the right rom?

xShyNez said:
I have followed your 1st step in your tutorial & it was working but in the end of installing the 1.57 RUU it gave me an "ERROR [140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR" any suggestions to what shoould i do to get the right rom?
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Oh :/ What HBOOT version do you have?
Sent from my HTC Chacha A810 using xda app-developers app

ethancottier said:
Oh :/ What HBOOT version do you have?
Sent from my HTC Chacha A810 using xda app-developers app
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i have the HBoot version 1.13.0000

xShyNez said:
i have the HBoot version 1.13.0000
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I think I know why the first step of htcdev unlock doesn't work when I unlocked my chacha, my bootloader was 1.09 I think, after updating my hboot, it was 1.10.0000 (which is what it is right now).
So I don't think you need to update your HBOOT at all
Try following the htcdev unlock instructions, but just skip out the part when you have to run that RUU to update hboot
Sent from my HTC ChaCha A810e using xda app-developers app

ethancottier said:
I think I know why the first step of htcdev unlock doesn't work when I unlocked my chacha, my bootloader was 1.09 I think, after updating my hboot, it was 1.10.0000 (which is what it is right now).
So I don't think you need to update your HBOOT at all
Try following the htcdev unlock instructions, but just skip out the part when you have to run that RUU to update hboot
Sent from my HTC ChaCha A810e using xda app-developers app
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Yay!!! it worked i have successfully unlocked the Hboot :laugh: thank you very much. so what should i do next should i root it right away or do i have to some other stuff too?

xShyNez said:
Yay!!! it worked i have successfully unlocked the Hboot :laugh: thank you very much. so what should i do next should i root it right away or do i have to some other stuff too?
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This is the ROM i'm using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644087 but it haves no radio
here are some stock roms: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Chacha
This is the best rom i found: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690088 ICS sux for me
I tried su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525404 but it didn't work. (root for apps won't work) so i tried Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip it worked successfully
Download Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lyngpterup8vt53 and place it in your MicroSD card
Boot into clockword mod and choose install zip from MicroSD card
Then select the zip location for the superuser file and select it and confirm
When done click back then reboot system
If all went well you should be rooted
Check by opening your app drawer and look for the SuperUser icon

xShyNez said:
Yay!!! it worked i have successfully unlocked the Hboot :laugh: thank you very much. so what should i do next should i root it right away or do i have to some other stuff too?
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You need to flash clockworkmod recovery follow this tutorial here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164468
And then you can either root your stock rom by following this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184118
Or install a custom rom like Cyanogenmod 7 which is already rooted, or a custom stock rom like Ajeeval's Zasa4Chacha (which is already rooted as well). If you're gonna try out any other roms, make sure you do a backup in clockworkmod recovery first, because you don't wanna be having to reinstall your stock rom if something goes wrong, you'd be there all day lol

ethancottier said:
You need to flash clockworkmod recovery follow this tutorial here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164468
And then you can either root your stock rom by following this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184118
Or install a custom rom like Cyanogenmod 7 which is already rooted, or a custom stock rom like Ajeeval's Zasa4Chacha (which is already rooted as well). If you're gonna try out any other roms, make sure you do a backup in clockworkmod recovery first, because you don't wanna be having to reinstall your stock rom if something goes wrong, you'd be there all day lol
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Got it thanks finally got my phone rooted

xShyNez said:
Yay!!! it worked i have successfully unlocked the Hboot :laugh: thank you very much. so what should i do next should i root it right away or do i have to some other stuff too?
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Please could you describe how you did to S-OFF, i am S-ON
I have the same problem my rom is 2.14.502.2 and HBOOT 1.13.0000

[Q] Permanently root Sensation XE

Hey folks, forgive me if this is the wrong section but i could not find a section dedicated to the XE, only the standard sensation and XL.
I've done some serious looking arround and there are so many guides & tools across the various guides i'm confused. Some require htcdev, some don't and other stuff.
What i'm looking to do is simple
Permanently root the my phone with NO custom recovery (but the option to do so later cause it will be rooted) so i can still receive official updates because the HTC Sensation XE is scheduled for a android 4.1 or 4.2 update
My basic phone stuff is:
HTC Sensation XE
Android 4.03
HTC sense 3.6
Softwarenumber 3.33.401.154
Hboot 1.27 if i recall correct
What's the easiest way to do this.

Rooting procedure for sensation and sensation xe is same...
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda app-developers app

you can use htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader or
use this guide to S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631

Every guide, rom or tweak for the 'normal' Sensation will work fine on the XE, as it has the exact same hardware. The XL has different hardware though.

That first link already "confuses".
first it starts talking about doesnt need htcdev unlocked bootloader, 2 lines below it sais it does need it. Then it links to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
I am registered on HTCDev.com but my device isnt listed, only the normal sensation (eu). I suppose i can pick that one? Then even further down that thread it talks about a new version that only requires temp root, or even a wire trick
see where i'm getting confused?
I'm on the stock rom (and plan to remain that way), no s-off (i was rooted when the phone had android 2.3.4 but flashed the update before i rerooted so i lost root). I'd rather not unlock the bootloader to void warrant and just gain s-off to be able to install superuser from the android market, cause i know thats the tool that actually grants aps root access

Actually if you have done htcdev then use the guide you mentioned
But if you haven't done htcdev then use the guide i linked to you
About temp root it must be done in order to have success for S-OFF
In any case follow the guide to the letter
Edit:you said that you were rooted when you were at 2.3.4 android
That means you did S-OFF with revolutionary method
Are you sure that you aren't still S-OFF;
About devices list you can choose all other supported devices
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

UPDATE: it is assumed that you have stock ROM and stock recovery and/or HTC unlock is failing
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So i should first try the HTCDev method?
Confirmed i'm no longer S-OFF, the update to ICS 403 failed because of the CWM recovery that got installed. I had to reset to factory settings in order to flash it, but after restoring i forgot to root again and straight updated to ICS so lost the root.
I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
Then there's this
but it's always recommended to follow HTCDEV unlock way as the wire trick there is easier
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See my whole confusing thing? I need simple instructions
As said i only want root access with no custom recovery so i can continue to get phone updates. If there's a non-stock version of like CWM that will let me do that well either is fine.
Mine fits this topics title. hboot 1.27 & FW 3.33(401.154) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870233
Then there's afaik this guide that fits too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404

Ch3vr0n said:
I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
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it means that after htcdev unlock method you have to be rooted which means installed also custom recovery in order to use this S-OFF guide
so you don't need that in your case
so you have 2 options
use htcdev and leave it as it is or
use ganeshp S-OFF guide(i haven't seen anywhere for installing custom recovery or maybe i am so blind!)

Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps

Ch3vr0n said:
Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps
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in your case then i suggest you to follow htcdev method
because the guide you posted requires htcdev unlock method
also the tool that provides,you are using it to install custom recovery and then use root
i mean that you can't use the tool to root your device without installing first custom recovery
so proceed with htcdev unlock method

Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do

Ch3vr0n said:
Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do
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Then in this case best solution is my way of soff.. Guide Link in my signature..
In the pre-requisites of the unlimited.io official site you can skip the htcdev unlock part.. As this is special case..
1. just follow the guide to the letter... Then once soff is done.. Do the one clock root tool that's all
(the reason I quoted to do HTCDev unlock over this method is because the wire trick is kinda easier that way.. But you don't want HTCdev unlock and custom recovery so.. Just do what I said)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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Edit: based on your previous posts I want to confirm something first.... Dont do any thing now and just part the complete bootloader details here.. Then I'll guide you further
(I suspect you are already SOFF... But let's see)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access

Ch3vr0n said:
It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access
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you are S-OFF already
also no root access
no custom recovery
then don't do nothing

well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.

Ch3vr0n said:
well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.
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the red tringle means that you have stock recovery
if you want to have root access try to install the su app from google play store

i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
when i install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu it sais no super user binairy is installed, does there lie the problem ?

Ch3vr0n said:
i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
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try this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5zdXBlcnN1Il0.

that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted

Ch3vr0n said:
that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted
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hmm,
the only thing i can tell you is from ganeshp guide use only the one click root tool
see if you will succeed
but see also the prerequisites

Flash to older RUU

hey'
I have htc desire s and I want to flash to an older RUU.
currently I am with RUU_Saga_S_hTC_Asia_India_2.15.720.3 and I want flash RUU_Saga_hTC_Asia_India_1.47.720.1
I can do this? and if yes what I need?

You could start by using the search or even look at the stickies where you might have located this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
[INDEX][15 MAY 13] INDEX of ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/GUIDES/HBOOT/RADIOS/TWEAKS etc
“Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.”*―*Lao Tzu,*Tao Teh Ching

I cant find there sommthing helpful. no matter what I trynig to do it doesnt work.
I dont know what to do. I read so much and I am stuck.
actually I am trying to downgrade my HBOOT and I have ics on my device so I dont know how to do that.
I tried this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 and it says that I need android 2.3.2 or 2.3.3
I am so tired of this I working on it for weeks and I just cant fin solution. plzz I really want to root my device and unless my HBOOT is 0.98 I cant to that...

Tlazipex said:
I cant find there sommthing helpful. no matter what I trynig to do it doesnt work.
I dont know what to do. I read so much and I am stuck.
actually I am trying to downgrade my HBOOT and I have ics on my device so I dont know how to do that.
I tried this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 and it says that I need android 2.3.2 or 2.3.3
I am so tired of this I working on it for weeks and I just cant fin solution. plzz I really want to root my device and unless my HBOOT is 0.98 I cant to that...
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You can root your device without downgrading. Unlock your bootloader on htcdev.com, install a custom recovery (over fastboot), flash supersu or superuser in recovery.
If you want to downgrade, you'll have to unlock on htcdev.com, root your phone like above, then use misc_version to change the version reported by your phone, relock the bootloader and run the older RUU.

teadrinker said:
You can root your device without downgrading. Unlock your bootloader on htcdev.com, install a custom recovery (over fastboot), flash supersu or superuser in recovery.
If you want to downgrade, you'll have to unlock on htcdev.com, root your phone like above, then use misc_version to change the version reported by your phone, relock the bootloader and run the older RUU.
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how i install a custom recovery?

Tlazipex said:
how i install a custom recovery?
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You could look how it's done in this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100

teadrinker said:
You could look how it's done in this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
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Thanks!!!! you helped me a lot!! thanks man my phone is now rooted again

Tlazipex said:
Thanks!!!! you helped me a lot!! thanks man my phone is now rooted again
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Could you add (solved) to the thread title
“The reason for the unreason with which you treat my reason , so weakens my reason that with reason I complain of your beauty.”*―*Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra