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How to s-off and root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 2.3.5?

Hi,
I have a Desire S:
- hboot 2.00.0002
- 2.3.5
- S-ON
What is the best and safe way to S-OFF and root this device?
Thanks

I dont understand, its possible root and install a custom ROM without S-OFF?

Just htcdev to unlock your phone
no way to s-off
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA

@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.

s-on
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting

swiftfraser said:
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
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Y y yes, although you can only flash them via fastboot with HTCdev unlock.

foX2delta said:
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
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I am a little scared to downgrade, are many steps....
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22271797&postcount=11
hboot 2.00.0002 will be supported by Revolutionary? If it will be i prefer wait instead of do something wrong and damage my beauty.

@Fredericosilva
It may be supported down the line..... Not a guarantee though.
Many steps..... not really.... Its up to you at the end of the day.

If you don't want to downgrade your hboot u can try this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
It'll leave your phone s-on, but you'll be root and you'll be able to flash roms.

So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?

I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on

Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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Your DS was hboot 2.00.0002 2.3.5?
Non Branded?
I guess I will try it when I have time...

Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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it is possible to flash a custom rom, look at this tutorial i've posted before, you only have to do it via fastboot. I'm not sure about the kernel thing.
Fredericosilva said:
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
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you can flash custom roms, but you'll have to do it via fastboot. So it takes a bit more time. i'm not sure about other differences

[Q] How to s-off my XE?

I cannot s-off my Sensation XE with revolutionary tool.
It says to fill in a form at their site with device type , hboot version and serial number.
I have hboot version 1.27.0000 and the available versions on the form are only 1.17 and 1.18.
Except this when i run the tool it says that "your device , pyramid with hboot 1.27.0000 is not supported at this time".
i have installed the htc driver.
i powered on my phone without hboot (i removed the battery and then turned on).
i have ICS 4.03 version 3.32.468.112 (i got it OTA two days ago).
How can i s-off and then root my phone?
Please help me because i have not done anything like that before.

You have the wrong hboot version. Using revolutionary won't wont work for a phone with the ICS OTS use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981
That.

you say that i must change my hboot version for it to work?
how is it wrong?
it is the one that my phone had stock.
and how can i change my hboot version?
will be all ok then or my phone will become unstabel or lose something?

Try the tacoroot method. I had a set of detailed instructions somewhere.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA

If you want S-off you will have to use the Juopunutbear S-off method linked above. Her is z link to the only detailed guide for the Sensation there is now.
Now by all means please understand you will have to use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader before you can use this S-off method. When you use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader it can cause you to void your warranty.

T-Macgnolia said:
If you want S-off you will have to use the Juopunutbear S-off method linked above. Her is z link to the only detailed guide for the Sensation that there is right now.
Now by all means please understand you will have to use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader before you can use this S-off method. When you use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader it can cause you to void your warranty.
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this page you linked does not exist.

djpeesh said:
Try the tacoroot method. I had a set of detailed instructions somewhere.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA
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what is this method my friend? another one?
where can i find the instructions?

vag7os22 said:
this page you linked does not exist.
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Sorry about that, don't know why it did that. I fixed the link in that post now.

does anyone know if there will be a new tool that supports the latest hboot versions?
if there will be i can wait to do it that way because the others seem a little risky to me.

It's Juopauntbear or nothing at the moment, and it works fine.
You can always just use HTCDev unlock for the time being, that let's you flash recovery to swap ROMs & gain root.

Rusty! said:
It's Juopauntbear or nothing at the moment, and it works fine.
You can always just use HTCDev unlock for the time being, that let's you flash recovery to swap ROMs & gain root.
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i read at their site but i didnt understand much.
what is the juopauntbear method and what is the HTCDev?
the only thing i saw is that you do something with a wire at the phone and i am confused.

is it the same thing or i must do both to s-off?
i entered rhe HTCDev unlock page and it has some instructions.
if i do this will i be able to s-off or i must then do the juopauntbear tricks?

You must do the juopunutbear method if you want to s-off
But befor that you must use the HTCDev and root
You must understand that yll lose your warranty if you use the HTCDev method.

so the only way now to s-off with hboot 1.27 is juopunutbear right?
What exactly do the HTCDev then? I see that unlocks the bootloader.
I think is in different order than with revolutionary tool (first s-off then root then anything else but with this method you need first Htcdev then root then s-off) or am i wrong?

HTCDev does not unlock the bootloader only parts of it, so thats why you have to first unlock via HTCDev and then root and finaly s-off with Juopunutbear...Thats the only way to fully unlock your bootloader

mobilkungen78 said:
HTCDev does not unlock the bootloader only parts of it, so thats why you have to first unlock via HTCDev and then root and finaly s-off with Juopunutbear...Thats the only way to fully unlock your bootloader
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Understood.
That is the only way until revolutionary release a new tool that supports the new hboot versions i think.
I think i can wait a little more for s-off.
Thank you all for your help and your time.

Not able to S-Off my Desire S, require help

Below is the details of my phone, I am not able to S-Off the phone, require help. I tried couple of things however gives me error.
Phone Details.
Saga Pvt ship S-on RL
Hboot – 2.00.0002
Radio – 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot

Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S

unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:

johnyomair said:
unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:
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Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.

rain987 said:
Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S
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I refered to a you tube video " How to S-off htc desire s" the first video that shows up. My phone is already rooted using the hdc dev kit, however when I am trying to do s-off the software gives just a message "Error". It also fails at signature.
do let me know what more information can I provide.
If you have a guide that I can try and share the results with you do send me that as well. I am new to rooting the phone, so sorry for not providing any info that is required.

You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS

ben_pyett said:
You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Thanks will try the suggestion and let you know the results

505dv said:
Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.
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My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards

johnyomair said:
My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards
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No, it's S-ON, but writable on /system partition due to HTCDev unlock. It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.

Jack_R1 said:
It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.
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Then please tell me why my Bootloader says:
*unlocked*
SAGA PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
S-OFF ... Security off
Rooting ... Grant root for the device, like su on linux
HTCDev unlock ... unlocks the bootloader
But its ok I just tried to help...

Then you can try to avoid confusion providing more detailed info, like:
"I have used XTC Clip to gain S-OFF, then used htcdev.com, without any particular reason, then got rooted by SuperOneClick"
Your previous post can mislead some non advanced users that SOC can provide S-OFF, without using additional tools.
Sent from my HTC Desire S

Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.

Nope to upgrade your Radio you have to be S-OFF

Maybe it was shipped with S-OFF because I had a brandig first.

I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?

johnyomair said:
Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.
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And you can flash radios only because you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it while you could have done whatever you wanted with it. And S-OFF is the only reason you can flash radios, and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything - just as it won't allow any non-S-OFF user to flash radios, and won't turn S-ON to S-OFF. But what do I know, I was just passing here.

c.m.b said:
I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?
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It is unlikely, but certainly possible. In the early days of Desire S development (back when we had to use the XTC-Clip hardware to obtain S-Off) there were some people who got their devices brand new already S-Off.

ok, back to the topic:
the simpliest way to gain s-off without xtc-clip is to downgrade the bootloader to HBOOT 0.98, and gain S-OFF with Revolutionary. After you did this you can run the latest ruu, which doesn't influence wether your s-off or s-on. Finally, you've got a device with hboot 2.02 and s-off.

After using revolutionary you are already S-OFF!
If you want to upgrade your HBOOT don't run a RUU AFAIK it could brick your device ... use this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338
Do you know the differences between Radio HBOOT S-OFF root etc?
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app

Jack_R1 said:
....you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it
................and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything...........
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I have to disagree @Jack_R1 the unlock via htcdev wasn't completely useless as it managed to void his HTC warranty! :laugh: logging that fact with HTC in the process!
we can only try...........:silly:

[Q] Permanently root Sensation XE

Hey folks, forgive me if this is the wrong section but i could not find a section dedicated to the XE, only the standard sensation and XL.
I've done some serious looking arround and there are so many guides & tools across the various guides i'm confused. Some require htcdev, some don't and other stuff.
What i'm looking to do is simple
Permanently root the my phone with NO custom recovery (but the option to do so later cause it will be rooted) so i can still receive official updates because the HTC Sensation XE is scheduled for a android 4.1 or 4.2 update
My basic phone stuff is:
HTC Sensation XE
Android 4.03
HTC sense 3.6
Softwarenumber 3.33.401.154
Hboot 1.27 if i recall correct
What's the easiest way to do this.

Rooting procedure for sensation and sensation xe is same...
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda app-developers app

you can use htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader or
use this guide to S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631

Every guide, rom or tweak for the 'normal' Sensation will work fine on the XE, as it has the exact same hardware. The XL has different hardware though.

That first link already "confuses".
first it starts talking about doesnt need htcdev unlocked bootloader, 2 lines below it sais it does need it. Then it links to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
I am registered on HTCDev.com but my device isnt listed, only the normal sensation (eu). I suppose i can pick that one? Then even further down that thread it talks about a new version that only requires temp root, or even a wire trick
see where i'm getting confused?
I'm on the stock rom (and plan to remain that way), no s-off (i was rooted when the phone had android 2.3.4 but flashed the update before i rerooted so i lost root). I'd rather not unlock the bootloader to void warrant and just gain s-off to be able to install superuser from the android market, cause i know thats the tool that actually grants aps root access

Actually if you have done htcdev then use the guide you mentioned
But if you haven't done htcdev then use the guide i linked to you
About temp root it must be done in order to have success for S-OFF
In any case follow the guide to the letter
Edit:you said that you were rooted when you were at 2.3.4 android
That means you did S-OFF with revolutionary method
Are you sure that you aren't still S-OFF;
About devices list you can choose all other supported devices
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

UPDATE: it is assumed that you have stock ROM and stock recovery and/or HTC unlock is failing
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So i should first try the HTCDev method?
Confirmed i'm no longer S-OFF, the update to ICS 403 failed because of the CWM recovery that got installed. I had to reset to factory settings in order to flash it, but after restoring i forgot to root again and straight updated to ICS so lost the root.
I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
Then there's this
but it's always recommended to follow HTCDEV unlock way as the wire trick there is easier
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See my whole confusing thing? I need simple instructions
As said i only want root access with no custom recovery so i can continue to get phone updates. If there's a non-stock version of like CWM that will let me do that well either is fine.
Mine fits this topics title. hboot 1.27 & FW 3.33(401.154) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870233
Then there's afaik this guide that fits too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404

Ch3vr0n said:
I've read the juonuptbear guides and thats the whole point of confusing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
under requirements:
* Be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)
aint that the whole point of gaining S-OFF to GET root access? How can you be rooted before. The HTCDev only unlocks the bootloader, it doesn't give root access. I didn't say i've done HTCDev, i'm registered to do it but havent done it yet cause my device wasn't listed and was unsure which one to pick.
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it means that after htcdev unlock method you have to be rooted which means installed also custom recovery in order to use this S-OFF guide
so you don't need that in your case
so you have 2 options
use htcdev and leave it as it is or
use ganeshp S-OFF guide(i haven't seen anywhere for installing custom recovery or maybe i am so blind!)

Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps

Ch3vr0n said:
Found this guide too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
so what exactly do i need to do. HTCDev unlock bootloader yes or no. custom recovery (that same link perhaps)
I'd love some exact steps
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in your case then i suggest you to follow htcdev method
because the guide you posted requires htcdev unlock method
also the tool that provides,you are using it to install custom recovery and then use root
i mean that you can't use the tool to root your device without installing first custom recovery
so proceed with htcdev unlock method

Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do

Ch3vr0n said:
Well since i linked a few guides, would you be so kind to link me the one i need to do what i want to do. Keep stock rom & stock recovery but have perm root (so that even in the case of a factory reset the root remains). I can live with installing SU from the market to give aps root access, as long as the device itself remains rooted. And dummy proof step by step instructions on what i need to do
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Then in this case best solution is my way of soff.. Guide Link in my signature..
In the pre-requisites of the unlimited.io official site you can skip the htcdev unlock part.. As this is special case..
1. just follow the guide to the letter... Then once soff is done.. Do the one clock root tool that's all
(the reason I quoted to do HTCDev unlock over this method is because the wire trick is kinda easier that way.. But you don't want HTCdev unlock and custom recovery so.. Just do what I said)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
---------- Post added at 11:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:45 AM ----------
Edit: based on your previous posts I want to confirm something first.... Dont do any thing now and just part the complete bootloader details here.. Then I'll guide you further
(I suspect you are already SOFF... But let's see)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access

Ch3vr0n said:
It may look like your right
i went into bootloader. Status is as followed
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL <=
HBOOT 1.29.0000 <= looks like this changed with a recent update i did
RADIO-11.29A.3504.18_M
OpenADSP-v05.6.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
when i go into recovery i get the red triangle thing, though i was able to flash a recent update
So what do i do now. I know it aint rooted cause my avast free mobile antivirus firewall cant be enabled, superuser does not get root requests and adfree android also sais no root access
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you are S-OFF already
also no root access
no custom recovery
then don't do nothing

well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.

Ch3vr0n said:
well with s-off already i WANT to have root access so i need to do SOMETHING. But when i enter recovery console i get that red triangle thing and it hangs there.
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the red tringle means that you have stock recovery
if you want to have root access try to install the su app from google play store

i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
when i install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu it sais no super user binairy is installed, does there lie the problem ?

Ch3vr0n said:
i did install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su, still no root access. SU doesn't get requests
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try this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5zdXBlcnN1Il0.

that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted

Ch3vr0n said:
that's the one i linked to 2nd. Sais "no binairy installed and SuperSU cannot install this. This is a problem". When i click ok, SuperSU shuts down. So even though i'm S-Off, im not rooted
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hmm,
the only thing i can tell you is from ganeshp guide use only the one click root tool
see if you will succeed
but see also the prerequisites

[Q]~[HELP] SuperCID, Unlocked, Rooted, and S-OFF, how to restore to stock AT&T ROM?

[Q]~[HELP] SuperCID, Unlocked, Rooted, and S-OFF, how to restore to stock AT&T ROM?
Hi, geeks,
For my AT&T HTC One X, I have followed you guys all the way to here now: with SuperCID, Bootloader Unlocked (via HTC Dev), Rooted of course, and S-OFF (with touchscreen firmware down-graded).
Now I want to go back to AT&T stock ROM to use the ISIS wallet. Could you please tell me how? I am worried that my phone get bricked!
Thank you so much!

You can just flash a stock at&t ROM which you'll find in our Android Development section. Or you can run the 3.18 RUU. This will also flash stock recovery, hboot, radio, and other firmware modules. The ROM is probably the better and easier option.
Sent from my Evita

Thank you, timmaaa. Do I need to lock the bootloader and so on? I saw it somewhere but can't find the link now.
timmaaa said:
You can just flash a stock at&t ROM which you'll find in our Android Development section. Or you can run the 3.18 RUU. This will also flash stock recovery, hboot, radio, and other firmware modules. The ROM is probably the better and easier option.
Sent from my Evita
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To run the RUU? No, because you're s-off you don't need to do any of that, just run the RUU through Windows.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
To run the RUU? No, because you're s-off you don't need to do any of that, just run the RUU through Windows.
Sent from my Evita
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I'm doing the same thing, but to attempt to trade in my phone. I assume that after running the RUU I should relock the bootloader. I want to get rid of the red text.
*EDIT* nevermind. didn't realize that the RUU clears out the *TAMPERED* flag and gets rid of the red text. should be all good now.

One more question, timmaaa: after flashing RUU, the recovery partition will be replaced with the stock recovery, and the S-OFF and boot loader will be kept as it is (based on what I learned from other posts of you). What if I need to flash CM again? I am confused because not many people are doing what I am. Thanks!
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To run the RUU? No, because you're s-off you don't need to do any of that, just run the RUU through Windows.
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Yes, the RUU will install the stock recovery. Your phone will still be s-off and will still have an unlocked bootloader. All you need to do is install TWRP recovery again and then you can flash any ROM you like. Full instructions on how to install a recovery can be found in my How-To Guide For Beginners thread, link in my signature.
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Hi, timmaaa, I got a RUU error 155 when flashing RUU_EVITA_UL_JB_45_S_Cingular_US_3.18.502.6_Radio_0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34_release_signed_With_Partial.exe.
Seems I need to re-lock the bootloader, which I am reluctant to do. Do I miss anything?
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Yes, the RUU will install the stock recovery. Your phone will still be s-off and will still have an unlocked bootloader. All you need to do is install TWRP recovery again and then you can flash any ROM you like. Full instructions on how to install a recovery can be found in my How-To Guide For Beginners thread, link in my signature.
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You don't need to relock if you're s-off. Are you using a 2.0 or 3.0 usb port? Are you using a HTC cable? Are you in fastboot mode? Have you uninstalled HTC Sync Manager?
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Hi, timmaaa, I am using USB2.0 on windows XP, with a regular cable, not in fastboot mode, and haven't uninstalled HTC Sync Manager.
I will try flash in fastboot mode again.
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You don't need to relock if you're s-off. Are you using a 2.0 or 3.0 usb port? Are you using a HTC cable? Are you in fastboot mode? Have you uninstalled HTC Sync Manager?
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aaronDroid80 said:
I'm doing the same thing, but to attempt to trade in my phone. I assume that after running the RUU I should relock the bootloader. I want to get rid of the red text.
*EDIT* nevermind. didn't realize that the RUU clears out the *TAMPERED* flag and gets rid of the red text. should be all good now.
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You need to make sure the person you are trading with understands the phone is s-off and bootloader unlocked, and what that means.
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BBS678 said:
One more question, timmaaa: after flashing RUU, the recovery partition will be replaced with the stock recovery, and the S-OFF and boot loader will be kept as it is (based on what I learned from other posts of you). What if I need to flash CM again? I am confused because not many people are doing what I am. Thanks!
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If you think you might still want to flash custom ROMs, you need to ask yourself why you want to return to stock in the first place.
Going back to stock if you are s-off, custom recovery, etc. is a step backward, not forward. Aside from getting on the correct hboot, firmware, etc. (or selling/trading your phone like the guy above), there is no benefit to going through all the hassle to running the RUU to get back to stock. Just flash a stock rooted ROM as timmaaa originally mentioned.
EDIT: Missed the part in the OP where it mentioned ISIS. See my response below (#13).

An update (for the forum): In fastboot mode, I have flashed Stock RUU successfully, without locking boot loader. After this, even in stock ROM, ISIS still doesn't work. I think it's caused by the SuperCID and S-OFF.
Timmaaa, do you know how I can SAFELY get SuperCID and S-OFF fixed? Thank you!
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Hi, timmaaa, I am using USB2.0 on windows XP, with a regular cable, not in fastboot mode, and haven't uninstalled HTC Sync Manager.
I will try flash in fastboot mode again.
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An update (for the forum): In fastboot mode, I have flashed Stock RUU successfully, without locking boot loader. After this, even in stock ROM, ISIS still doesn't work. I think it's caused by the SuperCID and S-OFF.
Timmaaa, do you know how I can SAFELY get SuperCID and S-OFF fixed? Thank you!
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Reading around, root seems to be the only mod that interferes with ISIS. Its unlikely that s-off would interfere with ISIS. SuperCID? Its possible. Changing from SuperCID is very easy with fastboot. Just search for the command.
Also, be aware that you need a ISIS compatible SIM ("secure element SIM") available from your carrier.
http://www.att.com/shop/apps/isis-mobile-wallet.html#fbid=xHuv6S8moS4

Could be. HTC One X is not available on att.com now, so your link can't explain at this moment.
From here, https://www.paywithisis.com/get-started.html, it says AT&T HTC One X is compatible.
In addition, I do have a ISIS compatible SIM card from AT&T. The reason I suspect it is due to CID is that it is “heard" from this forum that ISIS doesn't work if you put an AT&T SIM card in the T-mobile version of GN3 (unlocked).
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Reading around, root seems to be the only mod that interferes with ISIS. Its unlikely that s-off would interfere with ISIS. SuperCID? I suppose its possible, but my gut says no. Especially in light of the following:
I'm thinking it more the issue that the AT&T One X is not a "ISIS ready phone": http://www.att.com/shop/apps/isis-mobile-wallet.html#fbid=xHuv6S8moS4
Also, be aware that you need a ISIS compatible SIM ("secure element SIM") available from your carrier.
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BBS678 said:
Could be. HTC One X is not available on att.com now, so your link can't explain at this moment.
From here, https://www.paywithisis.com/get-started.html, it says AT&T HTC One X is compatible.
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Yes, I later realized that One X is not available at all anymore from AT&T (and that it is supposed to be ISIS ready), and revised my above response accordingly.
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In addition, I do have a ISIS compatible SIM card from AT&T. The reason I suspect it is due to CID is that it is “heard" from this forum that ISIS doesn't work if you put an AT&T SIM card in the T-mobile version of GN3 (unlocked).
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It could also be that they are looking at the phone model number. So SuperCID is a possibility, but not certain.
Its easy to change from SuperCID with a simple fastboot command. Just search this forum for the proper syntax.
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Here is the command to change from CID:
fastboot oem writecid CWS__001
(note that CWS__001 has two underscores)

Thank you! I learned from this forum that changing S-OFF to S-ON is very risky, and currently S-OFF relies on a SuperCID, so I think it's also risky to change the CID back. Have you ever tried? I need more opinions on this before I take the risk.

BBS678 said:
Thank you! I learned from this forum that changing S-OFF to S-ON is very risky, and currently S-OFF relies on a SuperCID, so I think it's also risky to change the CID back. Have you ever tried? I need more opinions on this before I take the risk.
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I honestly doubt s-off is blocking ISIS. S-off is exclusively an HTC invention, and I doubt ISIS would care about such a thing. I would recommend to leave s-off alone.
I wouldn't say its "risky" to change CID. As long as you still have s-off, I don't see any reason to still have SuperCID. But even so, you can still use the correct exploit to change back to SuperCID.

Hi, timmaaa, could you please shed some lights on this (change back to stock CID) please? Thanks!

here is my other post about ISIS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49822333
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I honestly doubt s-off is blocking ISIS. S-off is exclusively an HTC invention, and I doubt ISIS would care about such a thing. I would recommend to leave s-off alone.
I wouldn't say its "risky" to change CID. As long as you still have s-off, I don't see any reason to still have SuperCID. But even so, you can still use the correct exploit to change back to SuperCID.
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Everything that @redpoint73 has said is correct. There's pretty much no risk involved in changing your CID back to stock, having s-off does not rely on SuperCID. You can try changing your CID using the command that redpoint gave before.
There's pretty much no risk involved with going from s-off to s-on either. I don't know where you read that but I believe you're misunderstanding the information. Personally I wouldn't go back to s-on though because I don't believe that is affecting your ability to run ISIS. Plus getting s-off again can be tricky sometimes.
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