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[ROM] Senseless_EVO v.1.1 (not asop)

now rebased off rvu 1.3.1 so that means 4g should be a go
I removed all HTC widgets and most HTC/sprint apps except for the needed ones people messages music etc. Plus a few I happen to like
Big thanks to Keith and gbhil over at Android central for an amazing Rom to base this off of
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root
Wipe is most likely needed haven't tried to flash yet without
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked
Changelog:
1.1 now based on rvu 1.3.1 com.HTC.utility no longer fcs
1.0 based of rvu 1.0 all HTC widgets/apps removed except for messages etc....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6316939/senseless-evo-v1.1.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/kkuR1-0O/senseless-evo-v10.html

Looks great! I will load this later!

I highly recommend getting adw launcher it'd amazing

Does anyone know where com.HTC.rosieutility is located or what on here could still be causing it to fc on boot it doesn't affect the phone at all its just annoying seeing that every reboot

A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.

splicitysplat said:
A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.
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Yup you'll still be rooted with toasts method at least never touch the unrevoked root
I have no idea about 4g I would say probably not since I didn't change anything in that regard
I'll get back to u on the market

Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.

TheBiles said:
Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.

bcnice20 said:
Soo basically all I did was remove all HTC widgets and most
HTC apps from the newest Rom over on Android central by
Keith Newman so major thanks goes to him
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root ​
and finally I highly recommend wiping everything before you flash this...
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked​
http://www.4shared.com/file/kkuR1-0O/senseless-evo-v10.html
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no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.

TheBiles said:
Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize

bcnice20 said:
Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.

p-slim said:
no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.
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WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
bcnice20 said:
Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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Good job. Thanks for the speedy contribution towards our shiny new evo rom collection I remember liking sense and aosp so i like both and i always wanted sense to run right. That was everyones complaint with sense. Well thats not an issue anymore. I thought i would be all on it, like with my hero w/o thinking.....well as soon as i got my evo i forgot all that i learned about root and why to do it....JK but i am very satisfied with it and i will wait until i can access recovery and rw to system from device before i do. I spent the whole time i had my hero trying to make it into a device like this.....well now i have it Gimme a week and i think ill go to work.......

p-slim said:
you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.
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Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
p-slim said:
by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.

TheBiles said:
Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.
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nevermind, i thought htc sense was fully removed, not just a few apks

MagnusRagnarok said:
WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
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as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.

p-slim said:
by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....

MagnusRagnarok said:
Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....
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Could you PLEASE not use that font color? With sugar on top?

Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it

p-slim said:
as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.
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search my name in xda search youll find PLENTY of inter3sting things ive said. Do your own homework before instulting me or anyone else please.I meant neither of you any disrespect. I was explaining myself a little better and when i put up the 2nd post i saw this. This is an open forum right? well thats my opinion and some info. If you dl'd the rom you would see all the sense remnants yourself, resulting in less thread clutter,simultaneously answering your own question. I was trying to inform you in my second post. And please do not disrespect me by asking me to shut up. I do not disrespect anyone here on xda nor will i ever, and i expect the same treatment in return. I am here to help,learn,and contribute. Sorry you took offense. I guess i just dont ask others for answers that are readily available to myself. I would apologize but you offended me. please do not reply here again, as your response will be ignored by me. apologies to readers for momentary thread jack.......now, back to topic.....

bcnice20 said:
Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it
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I noticed what you did when i looked. Just wondering, were you unhappy with your evo when you got it? or did you just make a new rom to give everyone another choice of rom? or maybe even your personal, like i do sometimes? Just curious.....
@ops. I never spoke ill of your work, jic you took it that way, im not that guy. I appreciate any contributions to the community and have spent months of my own time staying up finishing up things ive been working to complete my self in order to ul and share with the community. Needless to say, I KNOW WHERE YOURE COMING FROM. When i can give us a new choice of rom or theme i too will begin work.....

Ice creem sandwich for mytouch 4g slide

Every one would love so see that . Who will be the illest developer . To do that
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Nobody can do ANYTHING until google releases the source code, which won't be for at least another couple of weeks.

dhkr234 said:
Nobody can do ANYTHING until google releases the source code, which won't be for at least another couple of weeks.
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Yes and no - I agree that porting the OS will be stuck with no dev until Google shows us some love, but someone dumped the ICS apps in android general here at XDA.
We can at least start on the long, slow process of converting the odexed apps into de-odexed version reverse compatible with gingerbread...some very small progress has already been made in this department.
Way off my radar at the moment with all else going on, but there's a start there for anyone who feels like eating some ice cream
Edit for links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18547788
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309647
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311135
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268003

First thing's first in Doubleshot development: We need working AOSP.

I agree with the need for a working vanilla gingerbread ROM...gotta get back to basics and go up from there.
Something that turned developers off to the idea before was the fact that you will lose the HTC camera app in the process, and it was generally agreed upon that this was undesirable.
Now that we've had some ROMs come out, we have dev rolling in various directions with different flavors of the android experience working on the device, maybe someone or a couple someones will get together and make some progress in his direction.
AOSP android for gingerbread really is the first step to getting ICS ported.
My time is being focused in other directions - I'm willing to lend a hand or do testing for anyone interested in working on this, but the project itself is outside my interests at the moment.
More and more people are becoming interested in this... Sooner or later someone will take a stab at it and get enough going to legitimately make a post about it in the dev section. I know I'll jump on and help support such a project, and i'm not alone - there are others floating around who will be able to give quality feedback and reports on testing that are waiting in the wings for someone to start this project, and once complete ICS isn't far behind.

I was thinking about getting the galaxy nexus when it came out, but honestly, if ICS camera app is halfway decent, I'm probably going to stick with this phone. ICS looks amazing btw!
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dung8604 said:
I was thinking about getting the galaxy nexus when it came out, but honestly, if ICS camera app is halfway decent, I'm probably going to stick with this phone. ICS looks amazing btw!
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Someone will find a way to port the camera's features to an app we can use. Also, the Galaxy Nexus? We have 64GB SD cards coming out soon and that phone has no SD slot!
Sent from a message in a bottle.

blackknightavalon said:
Someone will find a way to port the camera's features to an app we can use. Also, the Galaxy Nexus? We have 64GB SD cards coming out soon and that phone has no SD slot!
Sent from a message in a bottle.
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Shame the doubleshot only supports up to 32 gig...is this a software limitation?

Blue6IX said:
Shame the doubleshot only supports up to 32 gig...is this a software limitation?
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Just like the G1 only supported up to 16GB in spite of 32GB cards working on it?

G3CUA19 said:
Every one would love so see that . Who will be the illest developer . To do that
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there source code release for htcdev.com for 4g slide what about that

AndroidKing said:
there source code release for htcdev.com for 4g slide what about that
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That's the kernel source for the device itself. This is the last piece of the puzzle we needed from HTC - so we're done with them now.
Until Google releases the source code for ICS, it's unknown what will have to be done (if anything...) to reverse engineer it to work on our device.
Assume lots of work and banging your head against the wall to make it happen, but who knows - it might be little to no work at all. We just won't know until Google releases their source code. I haven't been paying attention, so don't know if any release date's been announced.
blackknightavalon said:
Just like the G1 only supported up to 16GB in spite of 32GB cards working on it?
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Didn't know about this - MT4GS is my first smart phone, so I don't have much history about prior developments, i'm learning it as I go.
This is very happy news, however, and if this is a precedent then a 64 gig card will just read in the phone. Until someone tries we won't know, unless someone can definitively say "yes, it's a hardware limitation" or "no, it's a coded limitation".
If it's just a coded limitation, then we can do something about it. If it's a hardware limitation, we're kinda stuck. If someone knows for sure, please speak up.

Blue6IX said:
That's the kernel source for the device itself. This is the last piece of the puzzle we needed from HTC - so we're done with them now.
Until Google releases the source code for ICS, it's unknown what will have to be done (if anything...) to reverse engineer it to work on our device.
Assume lots of work and banging your head against the wall to make it happen, but who knows - it might be little to no work at all. We just won't know until Google releases their source code. I haven't been paying attention, so don't know if any release date's been announced.
Didn't know about this - MT4GS is my first smart phone, so I don't have much history about prior developments, i'm learning it as I go.
This is very happy news, however, and if this is a precedent then a 64 gig card will just read in the phone. Until someone tries we won't know, unless someone can definitively say "yes, it's a hardware limitation" or "no, it's a coded limitation".
If it's just a coded limitation, then we can do something about it. If it's a hardware limitation, we're kinda stuck. If someone knows for sure, please speak up.
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I've gotta think software. Sd card reading technology hasn't changed that much has it?
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I just hope someone comes up with an A2EXT script for this device.

Blue6IX said:
Shame the doubleshot only supports up to 32 gig...is this a software limitation?
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Could be. I know some sd as well as hd drive version are limited ie fat32 ntsf etc.
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Actually 64 and above are SDXC not SDHC they use the newer 3.0 spec iirc
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[IDEA] Kernel Release

Hello all,
I was wondering since we figured out how to flash a kernel with a ROM through the boot loader on the AT&T HOX, if we could decompile and reverse engineer an RUU or ROM/Kernel package to show it's source code. Sorry if this has been thought of or if it's a stupid idea, I am not a developer.
Thanks.

Irish Enigma said:
Hello all,
I was wondering since we figured out how to flash a kernel with a ROM through the boot loader on the AT&T HOX, if we could decompile and reverse engineer an RUU or ROM/Kernel package to show it's source code. Sorry if this has been thought of or if it's a stupid idea, I am not a developer.
Thanks.
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You can't just reverse engineer a kernel, its in binary format.
You need the source code.
If HTC doesn't release the source soon then we should start working on a kernel based on the One S source.

rohan32 said:
You can't just reverse engineer a kernel, its in binary format.
You need the source code.
If HTC doesn't release the source soon then we should start working on a kernel based on the One S source.
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That's what may have to happen
Both phones share the same processor. When I had the AT&T Galaxy S2 we waited for kernel source from the international S2 ICS to drop and devs were able to make do with that. Some thngs had to be changed around (Mics on the phone for instance had to be swapped).

rohan32 said:
You can't just reverse engineer a kernel, its in binary format.
You need the source code.
If HTC doesn't release the source soon then we should start working on a kernel based on the One S source.
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I think that is the most sensible way to go for now. We have so much progress on all of the AOSP roms that is pretty much halted just because of not having kernel source yet. If the sources are similar enough, wouldn't it be relatively simple to move back to the intended One X source when we get it?
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MyronJ906 said:
I think that is the most sensible way to go for now. We have so much progress on all of the AOSP roms that is pretty much halted just because of not having kernel source yet. If the sources are similar enough, wouldn't it be relatively simple to move back to the intended One X source when we get it?
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The reason we have aosp is because it was ported from the one S, we need our own source to fix the remaining bugs.
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Haha, I didn't even think about that. But, it is a big blaring DUH. My bad Haha in my defense, I'm multitasking
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kleeman7 said:
The reason we have aosp is because it was ported from the one S, we need our own source to fix the remaining bugs.
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Doh!.
Lets all put the full court press on HTC to get Source released.

NJGSII said:
Doh!.
Lets all put the full court press on HTC to get Source released.
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if it were only that easy, basically this is how it works, we ask, they say when we want to release it we will. No explanation as to why it hasn't been released or anything

I think the biggest problem is that they are going to release it. They know they are, and we know they are. The obstacle is that they most likely already know precisely when they plan to, but we do not. We only know a window. If it gets out of that window our pressure might help, but until then I doubt they care.
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I don't get it. What's the point of not releasing the source code? If anything, HTC will only benefit by getting more sales after people realize the source code is out meaning that full on AOSP roms can be released.
Im still an Android noob here, is there any disadvantage from releasing the source code?

enviii said:
I don't get it. What's the point of not releasing the source code? If anything, HTC will only benefit by getting more sales after people realize the source code is out meaning that full on AOSP roms can be released.
Im still an Android noob here, is there any disadvantage from releasing the source code?
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Control is the only benefit for them.
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Keep in mind that AT&T is only one carrier with this device, yes they are the largest, but they're the only one. They would have no control over the release of the Roger's source code either, but it's not out.
I just sent my weekly request

gunnyman said:
Keep in mind that AT&T is only one carrier with this device, yes they are the largest, but they're the only one. They would have no control over the release of the Roger's source code either, but it's not out.
I just sent my weekly request
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I meant HTC having control.
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Maybe they're trying to finish up the leaked update and they will release source at the same time. We know at the very least, there is an update coming. It wouldn't make sense to release source for an old version or a version that is not yet completed
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Can't think of any except control.... Unless if AT&T is retired of replacing formerly rooted/rooted phones at their service centers. That and control; greedy bastards...

Can people use the kernel source to figure out how to get google wallet working? If so, that may be a reason why greedy ____ ATT would not want us to have the source code. Pure greed. after HOX, I'm going back to T-Mobile.

The phone is sold around the world. The population of the rest of the world far exceeds that of USA. At&t is just another fish in the ocean.
I doubt at&t has anything to do with the source not being released. It likely comes down to XL is not stable and development on the kernel is ongoing still.
Anyone reading xda would think USA was the only country that has smart phones.

twistedddx said:
Anyone reading xda would think USA was the only country that has smart phones.
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Let me get this straight... Not only are there other countries, but you also expect me to believe that they have smart phones?
Give me a break, sheesh!
Just kidding, you raise a valid point
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twistedddx said:
The phone is sold around the world. The population of the rest of the world far exceeds that of USA. At&t is just another fish in the ocean.
I doubt at&t has anything to do with the source not being released. It likely comes down to XL is not stable and development on the kernel is ongoing still.
Anyone reading xda would think USA was the only country that has smart phones.
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the S4 version is used by ATT and Rogers, but the international version uses a different chipset... so different source. I'll stop guessing why the source code for S4 version is not out yet.

Didn't HTC release source code today?
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Thunderbolt Development Activity (GITHUB)

The GITHUB public activity pages are a great way to get a general idea of the work that is going into building the Thunderbolt JB kernel.
Here is a listing of the developers that are working on the Thunderbolt according to their GITHUB public activity pages. I didn't list developers that don't have ICS/JB activity (assuming they have retired from the TB). Click on each link to view their GITHUB public activity.
elginsk8r
Flyhalf205
jblack248
liquid0624
LoungeKatt (TwistedUmbrella)
MongooseHelix
santod
sbryan12144
ziggy471
A GITHUB public activity page does not show all the activity, so keep that in mind.
The developer listing is in alphabetical order based on their GITHUB userID.
A big thanks to all of the DEVs, and please correct me if I missed anyone.
Thanks!

Hey, this is a cool list. It's nice to know people are keeping us honest.
We recently started an organization on github to collaborate easier, so that should be the main place you need to look if you want to stay updated.
https://github.com/LiquidMecha

jblack248 said:
Hey, this is a cool list. It's nice to know people are keeping us honest.
We recently started an organization on github to collaborate easier, so that should be the main place you need to look if you want to stay updated.
https://github.com/LiquidMecha
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Very Cool! Thanks!

jblack248 said:
Hey, this is a cool list. It's nice to know people are keeping us honest.
We recently started an organization on github to collaborate easier, so that should be the main place you need to look if you want to stay updated.
https://github.com/LiquidMecha
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Hi jblack, I've been following the liquidmecha development? It looks like you and liquid have been working on the RIL code for jellybean.
Is the RIL code the last major component in the jb development? Or are we talking about major hurdles across the board?
Thanks!
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blackshoes said:
Hi jblack, I've been following the liquidmecha development? It looks like you and liquid have been working on the RIL code for jellybean.
Is the RIL code the last major component in the jb development? Or are we talking about major hurdles across the board?
Thanks!
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You're correct; the radio is the last major component left to get working on JB. Right now we're trying to get baseband to work. I've been pretty busy lately, so Liquid and Santod have been the main guys working on the radio. disconnecktie ha been an incredibly helpful tester thus far, and he also has his own kernel going. Everything else has been reported to work, including the camera and camcorder (not 720p, though). The radio has been especially difficult.

blackshoes said:
Hi jblack, I've been following the liquidmecha development? It looks like you and liquid have been working on the RIL code for jellybean.
Is the RIL code the last major component in the jb development? Or are we talking about major hurdles across the board?
Thanks!
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Whats wrong with the RIL is the ramdisk permissions. The RIL should work, but without the correct ramdisk permissions, the radio itself wont power on, which is the problem we are dealing with now. Think of it this way, you have a pin # to unlock your phone but you have forgotten it, and now you need to try every possible combination you can think of until you land on the right one, and then your phone will unlock. Thats how the problem has to be solved basically.

jacobmacek said:
Whats wrong with the RIL is the ramdisk permissions. The RIL should work, but without the correct ramdisk permissions, the radio itself wont power on, which is the problem we are dealing with now. Think of it this way, you have a pin # to unlock your phone but you have forgotten it, and now you need to try every possible combination you can think of until you land on the right one, and then your phone will unlock. Thats how the problem has to be solved basically.
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Ouch! That doesn't sound good.
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jacobmacek said:
Whats wrong with the RIL is the ramdisk permissions. The RIL should work, but without the correct ramdisk permissions, the radio itself wont power on, which is the problem we are dealing with now. Think of it this way, you have a pin # to unlock your phone but you have forgotten it, and now you need to try every possible combination you can think of until you land on the right one, and then your phone will unlock. Thats how the problem has to be solved basically.
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Jacobmacek, thanks for the info. How big of an obstacle are we talking about? Could this potentially prevent the DEVs from getting the radio to work with JB?

blackshoes said:
Jacobmacek, thanks for the info. How big of an obstacle are we talking about? Could this potentially prevent the DEVs from getting the radio to work with JB?
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Meh, depends on how you look at it, it's really just a matter of time

blackshoes said:
Jacobmacek, thanks for the info. How big of an obstacle are we talking about? Could this potentially prevent the DEVs from getting the radio to work with JB?
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Since you included the word "potentially", yes, potentially it could prevent it

hallstevenson said:
Since you included the word "potentially", yes, potentially it could prevent it
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"So you're telling me there's a chance"

Don't think to much into it people. Data will work it will just take time and lots of testing. Be patient and it will come.
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disconnecktie said:
Don't think to much into it people. Data will work it will just take time and lots of testing. Be patient and it will come.
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It was a joke... Geez... It's like someone asking "is it possible that 'x' will happen by tomorrow?" and responding, "yes, it's possible" is 100% true.

Sorry if I sounded like a jerk. I wasn't trying to. Lots of time is being put into getting them to work. I will say that it's close. The radios turn on but are turning themselves off during the boot process.
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I also wasn't trying to take away anything in regards to the efforts involved in that either. I was simply playing on the hypotheticals that the person included in their question. I couldn't resist answering hypothetically as well !

disconnecktie said:
Lots of time is being put into getting them to work. I will say that it's close. The radios turn on but are turning themselves off during the boot process.
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You know, I really appreciate updates like this. It is so much easier to avoid laying around whining like a kid in the back seat on a road trip when we hear progress reports once in a while.
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I agree, it's nice to see progress is being made.
Once they get the radio working and fully functional JB roms start hitting the Thunderbolt, I hope that XDA's portal page will display the news. I was sorta surprised that the XDA homepage didn't at least give a one-liner when the ICS source was released by HTC. We all waited for so long and there were so many articles about how HTC was delaying the release, and then when the source was released....not one article or blurb.
I'm just hoping that the XDA portal page will give the Thunderbolt a little love when JB is ready. That may spark other news outlets to follow the fact that this older device is still being supported by the DEVs.

blackshoes said:
I agree, it's nice to see progress is being made.
Once they get the radio working and fully functional JB roms start hitting the Thunderbolt, I hope that XDA's portal page will display the news. I was sorta surprised that the XDA homepage didn't at least give a one-liner when the ICS source was released by HTC. We all waited for so long and there were so many articles about how HTC was delaying the release, and then when the source was released....not one article or blurb.
I'm just hoping that the XDA portal page will give the Thunderbolt a little love when JB is ready. That may spark other news outlets to follow the fact that this older device is still being supported by the DEVs.
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Agreed. It would be awesome to see an article, and also recognition of the hard work of liquid, santod, jblack, and twisted.

I added Flyhalf205 GITHUB activity to the list.

I'm not all that shocked about the lack of Thunderbolt love on the portal. When the Nexus S 4G got ICS, yes.. a developer phone, they didn't say much either. One of the DEV's for that phone managed to get a working version of ICS built for it based off the SDK, which technically shouldn't have worked, but it did. They didn't even show love for that.
No need to worry though, the Thunderbolt community know where our bread is buttered. :laugh:

Remember DroidTh3ory?

As much as I love our developers on the M8, I wish Th3ory still made ROMs. His was always among the best. Was just wondering whatever happened to him. After he got banned from XDA, he started his own site, but I can't find him on there either.
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Voltage: Undervolted
Governor: Intellidemand

That's that guy that stole other devs work and put his name on it. I believe
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coldconfession13 said:
That's that guy that stole other devs work and put his name on it. I believe
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Yeah many of his ROMs were full of kang... don't know why you'd want that back on xda

BFirebird101 said:
As much as I love our developers on the M8, I wish Th3ory still made ROMs. His was always among the best. Was just wondering whatever happened to him. After he got banned from XDA, he started his own site, but I can't find him on there either.
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I remember him. Loved his work didn't kno he was kanging people's work. R u still on droidhive @BFirebird101
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holla420 said:
I remember him. Loved his work didn't kno he was kanging people's work. R u still on droidhive @BFirebird101
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I remember running kill rom on my Galaxy Nexus. I don't think he's developing anymore haven't seen him for a few years.
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BFirebird101 said:
As much as I love our developers on the M8, I wish Th3ory still made ROMs. His was always among the best. Was just wondering whatever happened to him. After he got banned from XDA, he started his own site, but I can't find him on there either.
@holla420
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Yeah he and dhacker29 use to make my HTC Thunderbolt FLY!!!

mademan420 said:
Yeah he and dhacker29 use to make my HTC Thunderbolt FLY!!!
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mademan420 said:
Yeah he and dhacker29 use to make my HTC Thunderbolt FLY!!!
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Indeed I had the thunderbolt and the galaxy nexus and the droid razr. All ran kill Rom except the tb. Lol
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Guys, let's also not forget that XDA has new rules.
I have no idea who this guy is and absolutely DO NOT support kanging, but I certainly do support Open Source and Sharing.
XDA rules used to be straight forward as this - A DEV posts say.. a ROM, a tweak, MOD, etc..
No one is able to use it UNLESS the DEV gives that person 100% permission.
NOW.. since the Team Venom/Sergio and what happened was this.
Was a bit ago so stay with me.
Team Venom was Team PKMN, if anyone remembers..
Anyway, what happened, was their ROM/Tweaks app, hub, all that was kanged to the fullest degree of kanging.
If you know smali, for a tweak, you need say a "Method" you can name this whatever you want so when you go back into that app you can easily find your new method for the tweak, so let's suse the Tweak: Wake on Volume..
for example here was Team Venoms code:
Code:
.method private [COLOR="Red"]TeamVenom[/COLOR]WakeOnVolTweak(Landroid/view/MotionEvent;)V
and then in Sergios Tweak app he would change to:
Code:
.method private [COLOR="Red"]Sergio[/COLOR]WakeOnVolTweak(Landroid/view/MotionEvent;)V
this is one small example of kanging, cos after the method comes the coding.. and for certain MODs their are different ways to accomplish the same thing. But when sh*t hit the fan XDA reviewed the app and from my memory, it wasa 99% kang... the only thing that he did was simple change TeamVenom strings (a string is just a line of code) to Sergio.
Not only did he do this, Team Venom provides their ROMs for free (except for their new donation for the tweaks app - just to stop the 5 seconds when entering the app, you still get all the goodies without paying) anyway, Sergio added his kanged tweaks app to the Market making it possible for basically ALL ROM DEVs to download this Tweaks app BUT HE ALSO MADE A LOT OF MONEY OFF THEIR WORK!!! and then smali code all the tweaks into their ROM, which would be SO easy because since it's Team Venoms tweaks app you simply compare the applications and the exact code will work because all the code is the same only the method name is changed and that is just for convince to find what you're looking for.
Ok, so after a very long time (XDA had to go through EVERYTHING, threads from multiple phones and phones carriers, then all the posts within, and then all the PM on XDA!, it took some time..), XDA decided that Sergio was a complete kang, and not only banned him, his Tweaks kang app, gave any ROM Dev a chance to remove it from their ROMs or it would be deleted, and possible infractions.
Then, XDA had to do something/
So rant over, here is the point - skip to here if you don't care to read the above.
So, now, if you post a ROM, MOD, Tweak, etc.. to XDA, and you allow JUST 1 person to use it, it is FREE game for ALL to use without asking permission (although that is kinda d*ck move, you should still ask, even if they say no you can still use it..).
For example:
old XDA rules: ROM gets posted, no one can take a thing from it. The ROM Dev allows a buddy to use a tweak from his ROM, but NO ONE else - this was 100% within the rules and fine..
NEW rules: ROM gets posted, no one can take a thing from it - UNTIL the Dev allows someone to use a tweak from it or literally anything. (I may have to double check this part..) but if ANYTHING is shared from the ROM to someone else, it's free game for the rest, very tough, as now no one shares really anything because if they share, then someone they don't like will be able to use it..
I have to double check, to find out if say, if ANYTHING is shared from the ROM, ANYTHING else can be used from it, or just that specific thing that was shared.
The rules are a bit tough now, and I do agree with allowing EVERYONE to use the fix if it's shared publicly, otherwise it's just playing games and Devs fighting, we have enough of that!

The XDA user in question, had been ban some time ago.
We'll leave it at that as we do not discuss ban users, out of respect for their privacy
Thread closed,
Thank you