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You've probably read the new Operation Iron Fist going on here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=1159
As of now, I will no longer stand for the way some things are going here. If I see ANY trolling, flaming, or disrespectful behaviour, you will receive an infraction on the spot. No more warnings.
Also, offtopic chatter on the development forums is exceptionally high here. This will stop, since I will also infract upon it.
Just one more thing: if you encounter ANY of above mentioned offences, let me know ASAP, instead of foulmouthing about it on the public forum. If I see that, you WILL get an infraction too.
I am sorry for acting this way, but you guys are forcing me to do this.
Sounds good to me, unless "iron fist" translates in reality to Naziism.
There's a difference in insulting people, and trying to contribute and being attacked. I tried to contribute by pointing out that there were several bugs that were fairly severe. If a user doesn't point them out, what's the point of ever releasing anything beyond 1.0 and then closing the thread?
However, there's a small group of users in the community who have resorted to fanaticism, and when someone goes that direction it shouldn't be tolerated. When I get criticized for bringing up a bug, and told I'm a "habitual complainer" how is that supposed to encourage anyone to want to participate in the DEVELOPMENT of anything for any phone? For some reason the Infuse 4G participants who I'm referring to seem really on edge, and speak out (often personally) about anyone who says anything aside from praise.
We're not here to be reassured that the world is 100% good, and that everything everyone says is amazing, we're here to participate in an active development community, be it as a developer, or as a contributing end user. The moment you criticize your user base is the moment you go from being an open community of developers and end users to a system of dictatorship, and closed platformism (yeah, it's a word now because I said so), lol.
To the people who squash anyone who's new, or doesn't know something, or volunteers that they're having a problem and need help, STOP. There's no need to make someone feel bad for asking a question a second time in a 3000+ post thread and then criticizing them for not reading the answer in post 2106 on page 291. There's no need to tell someone they are full of crap when they say they're having internet speed issues, and that since it works for you to your satisfaction that they're obviously less intelligent. There's no reason to tell someone they're wrong just because you disagree with them.
To make this a "community" everyone has to be understanding that everyone has their opinions, and that we're all here to make the phone in whatever thread a better phone.
Without developers, this site wouldn't exist. Without end users wanting mods, this site wouldn't exist. If you continue to alienate anyone who's new and turn this into a fanboy forum, it's just going to send them back to Apple iOS forums and devices. If that's how you want to help turn the mobile community, fine, but personally, I don't.
Bella
True to some extent. But the main problem is this:
NeoS2007 said:
Just one more thing: if you encounter ANY of above mentioned offences, let me know ASAP, instead of foulmouthing about it on the public forum. If I see that, you WILL get an infraction too.
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Most people here think they can say ANYTHING to ANYONE. That's not what this forum is about. It's aimed at development and not discussion. If you feel you should debate in any way, move to another forum.
And you can call my method anything you like, I used to warn everyone before acting, but that's over. You of all people should know that.
I'm not about to take any sides, but Bella, you're completely out of line. Being part of the community is different than creating your own community. This is a group working together towards a common goal. To reach that goal, we must provide detailed, factual and documented information to the dev(s) so that we can enable them to create the best possible releases. I've seen no images, logcat, etc. that was provided by you. Granted, there are several others in the forum not providing these details, but there are several who have provided very specific and detailed information. It took far too long for you to provide this kind of information and it only turned the conversation south. You are not alone, so know I am not singing you out; there were several others who contributed to a negative environment. The reason for my posting this is because you were the only one to come here and plead your case.
That said, this is a community filled with individuals. We all have different personalities and will act and react differently to different scenarios. Hopefully this can be the beginning of a constructive and collaborative effort by us all to truly bring our Infuse to the next level.
I will not retort nor reply, I am simply sharing my views and experiences in this forum so far. The Captivate started off rough, but never reached this level. It won't be easy resurrecting this one from the ashes, but it can be done.
Right, you say I was unable to provide any factual data, yet I responded each time with factual and accurate data that was requested by GTG. I think some people get frustrated because often issues that come up are issues they just don't know how to solve, and often that leads to accusations that the end user is crazy, unintelligent, or just uncooperative, when the case is the opposite.
Clearly in the end I identified a data connectivity issue first (review thread if you like) that's been significant enough for him now to pull the ROM until he can resolve the issue. Rather than fellow members responding with productive comments, they responded in an attacking manor. My point was valid (as vetted by GTG at this point), and for those who weren't having the issue, why pipe in and say there's no problem? Do you take your car to the mechanic and tell him everything is working fine?
Initially I was called a complainer for bringing it to the attention. Unfortunately as a developer you can't expect that an end user is always going to be able to provide the detail you need. If I had the experience and desire to build a ROM I'd do it myself. It's kinda like building a house then expecting to know where to find a pipe junction inside a wall that only you know where it is. There's only so much expectation you can have of the end users.
Additionally, this is not the Google Developers Forum. This is not a forum of official Android releases, this is a hobbyist community of people who want to tinker with their phone. If a developer wants to be in an environment of developing for Google, maybe they ought to apply for a position at google.com/jobs. The ROMs that come out of XDA are great, but we have to realize there is nothing official about anything that comes from these forums.
I think the comment should be changed from "development, not discussion" to development and on-topic discussion. Because if you discourage discussion, it's like discouraging shopping in a mall. Discussion is what makes a forum like this great.
I'll certainly commit to staying on topic in the future.
Have at it neo. Thanks
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Bella, you never provided the data requested. You just compared two modems - this was NOT what gtg asked for. He asked you to compare 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 performance. After looking through the thread, I'm fairly certain never provided this information, you just maintained that you had provided the requested data because of your modem comparison tests.
Perhaps you were under the mistaken impression that 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 was a modem firmware change - if you had opened the update zip to analyze the contents you would see that it was not. There's a reason gtg specifically asked you to compare 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 and not to compare UCKE3 vs UXKG3 modems, and the latter is what you did.
Also, the network connectivity issue was only one of the reasons gtg pulled the ROM. He was trying to be nice, but the poor attitude of many users in the thread was a MAJOR contribution to the ROM pull also. In addition to that, at least two developers have stated either in posts here or on IRC that they are extremely uneasy about releasing any ROM images on these forums because of the poor behavior on these threads. It is also why I currently have a "no support, don't PM me" policy for the kernel I released - it was the only solution to getting experienced users the build that many were asking for without subjecting myself to the painful experience gtg did.
PLEASE have at it! I haven't visited this forum in a few years (iPhone) and now that i'm back with an Infuse this place isn't anything like it use to be.
My 2cents.
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Bella, you never provided the data requested. You just compared two modems - this was NOT what gtg asked for. He asked you to compare 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 performance. After looking through the thread, I'm fairly certain never provided this information, you just maintained that you had provided the requested data because of your modem comparison tests.
Perhaps you were under the mistaken impression that 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 was a modem firmware change - if you had opened the update zip to analyze the contents you would see that it was not. There's a reason gtg specifically asked you to compare 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 and not to compare UCKE3 vs UXKG3 modems, and the latter is what you did.
Also, the network connectivity issue was only one of the reasons gtg pulled the ROM. He was trying to be nice, but the poor attitude of many users in the thread was a MAJOR contribution to the ROM pull also. In addition to that, at least two developers have stated either in posts here or on IRC that they are extremely uneasy about releasing any ROM images on these forums because of the poor behavior on these threads. It is also why I currently have a "no support, don't PM me" policy for the kernel I released - it was the only solution to getting experienced users the build that many were asking for without subjecting myself to the painful experience gtg did.
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Understood. I provided what he asked to the best of my ability at the time ... I'd reference my post but I'm not digging through a 3000 message thread, sorry. :-(
Matt-Helm said:
PLEASE have at it! I haven't visited this forum in a few years (iPhone) and now that i'm back with an Infuse this place isn't anything like it use to be.
My 2cents.
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The Inspire and Aria forums were much more friendly, it's not this site, it's just the Infuse forum in general. I had a very positive experience in the Inspire threads
I think it was not the fact that you raised an issue that bothered the developers, it was the manner in which it was raised.
Also, look at it from a developer's perspective - when the thread is filled with posts that clearly indicate that the poster didn't even read the first post of the thread in its entirety (not saying that you did this, but many others did), it gets massively frustrating.
I've never seen so many people completely fail to read/comprehend the first post of a thread as the Infused v2 thread. Even after it was put into the first post as a known issue, we still got reports of HDMI not working every 3-4 pages.
After what could be effectively described only as an all-weekend hack session two weekends ago, everyone's been a bit exhausted/burned out. But everyone keeps demanding MORE MORE MORE!
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Also, look at it from a developer's perspective - when the thread is filled with posts that clearly indicate that the poster didn't even read the first post of the thread in its entirety (not saying that you did this, but many others did), it gets massively frustrating.
I've never seen so many people completely fail to read/comprehend the first post of a thread as the Infused v2 thread. Even after it was put into the first post as a known issue, we still got reports of HDMI not working every 3-4 pages.
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I agree 100% ... the only thing I can say is that remember that many people come from iphone, aka the dev team blog, which is much different. On theirs you read from the bottom up. I don't think that's an excuse since XDA uses the globally accepted standard in forums. But yeah, last night there were about 25 people in an hour asking why the links didn't work, lol.
Not really sure if this is on topic or not.... I just looked up "Iron Fisting" and this was the first result http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iron fisting
Holy cow! The mods/admins mean business!
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Not really sure if this is on topic or not.... I just looked up "Iron Fisting" and this was the first result http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iron fisting
Holy cow! The mods/admins mean business!
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I know my mouth (and legs) will be shut going forward.
Bravo Neo. Bravoooooooooooooo.
Thank you!
Looking forward to seeing a cleaned up forum!
by the way? how do u become an admin?
i spend way to much time on here...even while im at work (because its my job relates highly to this)
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Not really sure if this is on topic or not.... I just looked up "Iron Fisting" and this was the first result http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iron fisting
Holy cow! The mods/admins mean business!
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looking forward to clean and healthy forum.
I hope I'm not going to make any enemies by saying this, but I can't say I entirely agree with this being an iron fist. So far all that has been done is the Infused v2 ROM thread was locked. On any other forum I frequent they start with punishing the offenders individually, and only lock the thread as a last resort. I didn't see anybody get personally warned and I didn't see anybody get banned, and it really was only a handful that caused problems. I know there were a LOT of people that were posting the same questions over and over, but that can't be helped most of the time. The ones that were bickering and really ruining the thread are still posting happy as can be. I know it sounds like I'm questioning the mod(s) or being ungrateful, but I don't mean it that way. I just feel like we lost the ability to have an important and fun discussion before all the possible options were explored. Now if gtg asked for the thread to be locked then that is an entirely different matter, but I didn't get that impression from reading the last post.
I really do enjoy these forums and always have, and feel like this board is run very well. By this board, I mean the Infuse board. I just wanted to say that I don't know if I entirely agree with the way the infused thread was handled.
EDIT: I wanted to add that I know the mod(s) do this for free in their spare time, and I know that you can't police it 24/7. I really do appreciate your efforts at running this board, and the ONLY thing that I've seen that I take "issue" with is the handling of the Infused thread. Maybe there are things behind the scenes that I didn't see, and if that is the case then I apologize.
The Infused forum is only locked temporarily, as I asked the dev to contact me when his rom is finished.
Thanks for your support people. Just remember to report anything that's offensive/disrespectful/wrong/etc. and I'll take care of it.
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The Infused forum is only locked temporarily, as I asked the dev to contact me when his rom is finished.
Thanks for your support people. Just remember to report anything that's offensive/disrespectful/wrong/etc. and I'll take care of it.
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I did see where it was locked only temporarily. I just wanted to get that off my chest, so to speak. It wasn't REALLY bugging me, but I did get pretty frustrated with how people were acting. It was pretty ridiculous. Like I said before, I really do appreciate your efforts to keep our forums running smoothly. Thank you for your continued presence and work, and for not taking my post personally, (at least I don't think you did ).
Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Lol
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Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Capable of doing what, exactly?
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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sgs2 fourm that way bra <<<
He said sgs4G
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theexel said:
Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
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We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
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From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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haha bh will make you eat your words
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For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
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Alright, flame me.. because I'm definitely doing something wrong. I'm in no way demanding an ETA or even demanding anyone to start working on this, I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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hahah XXDDD
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I had life happen
I see the usual knee scuffs and bruises hit this thread too. I really wish people wouldn't post if doesn't help move the thread forward.
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Anyways... back on topic... :clears throat:
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
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It's ok. I've responded to a few of these threads. It's surprising how many people don't click 'search' and search for 'cm7' or 'cyanogenmod'. I also don't expect people to read both rootz and xda. So if you read my op on the kernel thread, I have a "Plans" section (on both forums!).
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But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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If you want to help, pm me.
Starting threads like these without searching only causes trolling and thread thrash (a lot of useless threads in the forum that blur the current state).
When you read what I'm saying, imagine a skinny geek with a deep helpful-relaxed voice... and a smile
A lot of people take me the wrong way. I'm a geek. I read and write code. I don't like wasting my time making you feel all warm and fuzzy.
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Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
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This.
10 Char.
Lets keep this thread going I am also wondering how come there is so little development here but what developers we have are dedicated!
We have great developers that work hard on cm. The sgs 4g is the problem of not having it, freaking sammy with their experiments. i really enjoy their masterpieces(devs). Op you just have to have some patience, cm will come to us i believe in our devs.
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I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Before flaming and insulting did you notice the date on the first post?
Personally I think the person that cast the raise dead spell should be getting beat with the flame bat.
I swear sometimes people are too eager to flame somebody. Its like they had a bad day come to xda to post behind a anonymous screen name and then walk away feeling better. But that is just me, Im sure my observation is wrong.
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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First of all, this has never been my primary device. I have never owned this device. I used to own the Samsung Vibrant, now I own a Nexus S. My girlfriend owned a Galaxy S 4G, and was using her phone to try to bring something new to you guys. (First ICS theme for this device ring a bell?) It's not my job to group 50 other threads about CM7 into this one. That's not what a community is. I am in no way a recognized developer, I know my stuff, but I have a long way to go. But it's people like you that make devs want to leave and stop posting their stuff. You swear people have time to do everything. And indeed that was my intention, but I wasn't going to pull useless information from other threads that members have posted, that are often inaccurate. This thread was mostly meant for devs, that could actually help out, and working together.
In other news, I finally have some time to mess around with stuff, might look into more themes or something, but I lack a device to work on, so I guess if some people would like to help (testing, etc.) I'd be glad to push things out from time to time.
Previously I have had great joys with CM, however version 9 with build CM9-NIGHTLY-120308-Defy(hwa) is a complete piece of garbage.
The phone is over heating, freezing, rebooting and generally slow as a dog.
The phone is now rendered pretty much useless.
Has anyone had any luck with any of these builds. So far it looks like CM9 is far from ready for the Motorola Defy.
Is CM9 ready for any phone yet? I think you're expecting too much from an alpha build.
This is what happens when people flash alpha nightly roms and have no idea what they are doing.
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Is CM9 ready for any phone yet? I think you're expecting too much from an alpha build.
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Thnaks for your reply. So it is still very early in the development stage? I upgraded to 120319 Nightly Build, which is much faster. Seems like most issues are ironed out, however there are still a few little glitches in regards to performance.
A short amount of time to pass for such an increase in performance though, kudous to the developer.
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This is what happens when people flash alpha nightly roms and have no idea what they are doing.
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Thanks for your underlying tones of sarcasm and arrogance.
I was not aware of the moderator’s culture in XDA forums to contradict the entire purpose of having a Forum and a Mod. Your lack of support and helpfulness is quite deterring. I'll be sure to embrace for the next sarcastic comment from a mod in the near future.
Though, I do understand that your tiny position of power may have incited your god complex, corrupting you to a delusional belief that you have a higher purpose in this world, hence we’ll let this one slide.
Of course, you’ll probably delete this post out of embarrassment or anger, due to the fact that someone has questioned your role and general purpose in the forum.
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Thanks for your underlying tones of sarcasm and arrogance.
I was not aware of the moderator’s culture in XDA forums to contradict the entire purpose of having a Forum and a Mod. Your lack of support and helpfulness is quite deterring. I'll be sure to embrace for the next sarcastic comment from a mod in the near future.
Though, I do understand that your tiny position of power may have incited your god complex, corrupting you to a delusional belief that you have a higher purpose in this world, hence we’ll let this one slide.
Of course, you’ll probably delete this post out of embarrassment or anger, due to the fact that someone has questioned your role and general purpose in the forum.
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Not at all. I find your post amusing. And the general purpose of the forum is for development not user support.
The whole point to nightlies is the fact that it is very alpha and unstable. So flashing them you should have expected issues. You gave no logcat to help trouble shoot any issues have. Even though on the CM site it states clearly not to post issues on nightlies due to it being alpha stage. So instead you come to a development forum and make a post calling it crap.
But I will close this up. As it serves no real point.
I'm just wondering if anyone has any other useful tips on improving the performance of the TFI?
I've already done the tweaks in the "[HOW-TO] Some tweaks to sweeten your life with the Infinity a little" which did help somewhat, but this thing is still a bit sluggish.
Absolutely. We keep all the best information hidden out of reach of a simple search. The real key is to nest it deeply beneath tons of stupid questions like this one.
Seriously. This post is exactly why threads with important/pertinent information are made sticky.
Thanks for the helpful reply (sarcasm).
I've looked through just about every thread on this forum in regards to this. I referenced the sticky thread that seemed to have most of the best tweaks already listed.
Sorry for thinking someone might have some insight on why when the TFI in particular performs so poorly even compared to the Prime (I had one of those also).
I've been on this forum for 3 years and to be perfectly honest your answer is the reason I don't bother posting on most forums. I went out of my way to keep it in the Q&A section (because it is a question and I didn't want to post in a section where it would just clutter things up).
MODS, please close as you see fit. I'd guess (by the lack of productive posts) that there isn't anything out there that I haven't already found and being flamed serves no real purpose.
I will take a stab at a useful suggestion rather than bashing you for your innocent question.
The prime has had some performance gains by mounting the /data to /sd:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803252
May be something to try on the tf700.. hope that was more helpful than the snarky bashing that many posters here feel is warranted when anyone asks a question. We need to be nicer around here and if there is nothing useful for you to add to a thread... then don't post, just pm a moderator if you think the thread is not relevant.
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Thanks for the helpful reply (sarcasm).
I've looked through just about every thread on this forum in regards to this. I referenced the sticky thread that seemed to have most of the best tweaks already listed.
Sorry for thinking someone might have some insight on why when the TFI in particular performs so poorly even compared to the Prime (I had one of those also).
I've been on this forum for 3 years and to be perfectly honest your answer is the reason I don't bother posting on most forums. I went out of my way to keep it in the Q&A section (because it is a question and I didn't want to post in a section where it would just clutter things up).
MODS, please close as you see fit. I'd guess (by the lack of productive posts) that there isn't anything out there that I haven't already found and being flamed serves no real purpose.
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My honest answer is that the best performance improvement will come from root/unlock/TWRP recovery and flashing Zeus Rom v4.0, now and possibly AOSP Jelly Bean or CM10 when they are ready to flash. I always find more good performance comes from custom software than from stock.
@ Jordanmw - Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look later tonight when I get home from work.
@okantomi - I think you are probably right. I unlocked the Prime shortly after getting it and just basically figured no biggie. The only reason I haven't done it with the Infinity is because it performed so poorly out of the box that my gut reaction was that it was going to have to go back... I'll probably end up doing it though.
I do seem to be making some headway on the issue. I went through and tested some slightly modified build.prop tweaks (modified compared to the tweak thread I referenced in the OP). Added a few others and started to play around with getting init.d working so I can run some other scripts during startup rather than having multiple "tweaking" programs running. Ultimately I'll probably just end up unlocking and using one of the custom roms, but in the meantime I figured it wouldn't hurt to spend a little time learning some new tricks.
Appreciate the helpful feedback guys. Also, Once I get to where I feel the Infinity is performing the way I want, I'll post what I did (giving all credit to those who's work I benefited from of course).
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@ Jordanmw - Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look later tonight when I get home from work.
@okantomi - I think you are probably right. I unlocked the Prime shortly after getting it and just basically figured no biggie. The only reason I haven't done it with the Infinity is because it performed so poorly out of the box that my gut reaction was that it was going to have to go back... I'll probably end up doing it though.
I do seem to be making some headway on the issue. I went through and tested some slightly modified build.prop tweaks (modified compared to the tweak thread I referenced in the OP). Added a few others and started to play around with getting init.d working so I can run some other scripts during startup rather than having multiple "tweaking" programs running. Ultimately I'll probably just end up unlocking and using one of the custom roms, but in the meantime I figured it wouldn't hurt to spend a little time learning some new tricks.
Appreciate the helpful feedback guys. Also, Once I get to where I feel the Infinity is performing the way I want, I'll post what I did (giving all credit to those who's work I benefited from of course).
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That would be awesome. I've just flashed the Team Baked Black Beans Infinity Jelly Bean ROM and it's really nice. Will need to do some tweaks but init.d support is build in so it should be pretty easy.
Hey lads hope you're doing okay. So recently i purchased a Idoing for my 86, i decided to upgrade my headunit but now the problem is that im facing higher resolution(currently at 1280) and my touch resolution is (1080p) and because of that the screen is now huge and cant even calibrate so basically i've looked everywhere else but couldn't find a solution( basically a rookie with basic knowledge). So please if you guys can help me out, that'd be appreciated. Thanks
Is it an FYT device. Post screen shots of Android system info including MCU version
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Hey lads hope you're doing okay. So recently i purchased a Idoing for my 86, i decided to upgrade my headunit but now the problem is that im facing higher resolution(currently at 1280) and my touch resolution is (1080p) and because of that the screen is now huge and cant even calibrate so basically i've looked everywhere else but couldn't find a solution( basically a rookie with basic knowledge). So please if you guys can help me out, that'd be appreciated. Thanks
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are you saying the android head unit resolution is too high so the rendered UI and text are too small?
If that's the case, in developer setting, you can change the DPI by set minimum height to 480.
Hey thanks for the response. The Idoing send me bunch of files and updated it. And now it fits my headunit perfectly like old. If someone faces the same problem. Let me know I'll share the files with you.
Hi @shanygage ! How did you get in contact with Idoing? via email, aliexpress chat? Cheers!
shanygage said:
Hey thanks for the response. The Idoing send me bunch of files and updated it. And now it fits my headunit perfectly like old. If someone faces the same problem. Let me know I'll share the files with you.
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Please share with community
Please share the iDoing firmware file
Another joined for free support and left without a trace.
marchnz said:
Another joined for free support and left without a trace.
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Take solice in the fact it gave you something to complain about. And besides if you want the files, what did the manufacturer say when you contacted them?
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Take solice in the fact it gave you something to complain about. And besides if you want the files, what did the manufacturer say when you contacted them?
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I detect some annoyance between the two of you, but marchnz is right. One post from the OP, then the OP obviously got some nice answer back from the reseller (as marchnz always advises and which the OP already had done without mentioning it in his post), and then nothing at all since that time.
And then another user asks for the firmware as the OP so nicely offered, and then nothing.
So I fully agree with the "Another joined for free support and left without a trace."
Also your : "what did the manufacturer say..." is not fair. He didn't ask for himself. He asked the sharing for the community where other users could use and benefit from it as well. That is where this community is for.
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I detect some annoyance between the two of you, but marchnz is right. One post from the OP, then the OP obviously got some nice answer back from the reseller (as marchnz always advises and which the OP already had done without mentioning it in his post), and then nothing at all since that time.
So I fully agree with the "Another joined for free support and left without a trace."
Also your : "what did the manufacturer say..." is not fair. He didn't ask for himself. He asked the sharing for the community where other users could use and benefit from it as well. That is where this community is for.
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If it was marchnz's forum, fair enough. The mods have already warned marchnz about their attitude. Tell me, Surfer what benefit to the forum was it to have marchnz comment on a post from June 12. Really, what possible benefit is there to that? marchnz is as useful as that poster from June 12 as far as I can see.
"What did the manufacturer say" is just putting a mirror up to marchnz's terrible and typical responses to posters.
The marcvhnz tells people to not silo (poster's words not mine) recently yet refuses to respond when people have searched for and still can't find answers yet he knows the answer.
There will always be people who drop in and then leave. That is life. Just like there will always be people who take advantage of situations in life. It can't be stopped.
But the rich thing is that marchnz complains about useless posts. Look at their history, there are plenty of terrible responses.
To make another post when someone leaves without giving the respect, or complaining about someone not typing in English is in fact doing one of the exact things that marchnz compains about.
If my responses bring a mod to sort it out, all the better. Because I'm sure marchnz scares off more potential long term members who come here to learn from wonderfully people like yourself Surfer, than he keeps away 'one hit wonders'.
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If it was marchnz's forum, fair enough. The mods have already warned marchnz about their attitude. Tell me, Surfer what benefit to the forum was it to have marchnz comment on a post from June 12. Really, what possible benefit is there to that? marchnz is as useful as that poster from June 12 as far as I can see.
"What did the manufacturer say" is just putting a mirror up to marchnz's terrible and typical responses to posters.
The marcvhnz tells people to not silo (poster's words not mine) recently yet refuses to respond when people have searched for and still can't find answers yet he knows the answer.
There will always be people who drop in and then leave. That is life. Just like there will always be people who take advantage of situations in life. It can't be stopped.
But the rich thing is that marchnz complains about useless posts. Look at their history, there are plenty of terrible responses.
To make another post when someone leaves without giving the respect, or complaining about someone not typing in English is in fact doing one of the exact things that marchnz compains about.
If my responses bring a mod to sort it out, all the better. Because I'm sure marchnz scares off more potential long term members who come here to learn from wonderfully people like yourself Surfer, than he keeps away 'one hit wonders'.
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It's about getting people to think first, including contacting the owner of the support - the seller. The seller often walks away from that responsibility and they shouldn't. Asking that question helps others if they reply to get a picture of who are the bad sellers and who might be reasonable. That's contributing to the forums. Why that might "scare off" is beyond me - they obviously didn't come here to contribute and expect others will solve their problem at the cost of contributing members.
It's pretty obvious to me at least, those that join simply for free support and leave - they're typically the ones that ask the same questions as "new member".
I'm not a moderator, nor do I wish to become one. But we can shape the forums, and help those that show at least a basic level of interest in contributing.
If asking basic questions "scares off" those that had no interest in at least a small amount of self help, or asking thoughtful questions, does it not then benifit the forums from keeping the noise down and potentially enable those that do contribute to stay and focus on development and not noise.
I.e. your comment is logically fallacious- a false dilemma.
I know I contribute and have written many articles, including those that enabled members like hal and Mal to create upgrades from Android 7 to 8, when previously it was not possible.
I also offer a free recovery service for MTCx devices, world wide.
How have you been contributing? What would you suggest?
If those that do not agree or take issue with posts - the report button is available for that.
I share the new iDoing firmware, include new MCU firmware
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