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HTC unlocker or the XDA method?

Since purchasing my Sensation 4G I have been eagerly reading these forums. Of particular interest to me have been the unlocking and flashing threads. I have been toying with the idea of doing so with my device, but since I heard HTC was going to release the official unlocker I have held off to compare the two. Now that both methods are available I am looking for some objective (key word!) advice.
1) Functional, is there any difference in capabilities after unlocking in using one method vs the other? If so please explain. (for instance, does one method allow you to do X and the other does not)
2) After unlocking via the HTC method, how does the process of flashing ROMs differ?
3) Assuming HTC does release official ROMs as it appears they will, can they only be flashed onto a phone that has been officially unlocked?

1. Yes there is a difference. The revolutionary hboot is better as it has extended fastboot commands.
2. You would still need root and a custom recovery.
3. Nope, official roms work fine as long as cid's match or you set up super cid.

Behold_this said:
1. Yes there is a difference. The revolutionary hboot is better as it has extended fastboot commands.
2. You would still need root and a custom recovery.
3. Nope, official roms work fine as long as cid's match or you set up super cid.
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That is good information. I mistakenly believed that the HTC unlocker gave the user root.

Nope it doesn't give root. Actually you don't even need root to flash a rom, custom or otherwise. You just need a custom recovery installed (can be done through bootloader). Most custom roms come rooted.

Keep in mind that the official HTC way of unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty, whereas with the revolutionary method, you can reverse that and reapply S-ON (I don't know about reversing the HTC way).
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The AT&T way.
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BUT seriously the xda way cause it can be reversed
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xda way. Definitely.
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Fastboot oem lock
above command will lock the bootloader

Of course Revolutionary is much better

theres two sides
xda is better, but if you are a noob and dont know what your doing and might brick ,htc way is for you because if you so happen to pull the cord while unlocking atleast you can call them and get it fix maybe.

Does Revolutionary work on 2.3.4 updated Sensations?

HTC Way - Give HTC my personal and phone information and void my warranty.
XDA Way - Give HTC nothing, unlock via a reversible method. And if I have a hardware issue not related to unlocking, I can reverse the unlock and still utilize my device warranty.
XDA Way FTW !
Given how anal HTC has become over this matter. (I could care less their reasons, so please spare me any soap box moments over why HTC does things their way.) That is why the Sensation my be my last HTC device. Some other OEMs are less anal about 3rd party developers unlocking a device. So post-Sensation I'll probably get something that is more developer friendly.

bcpk said:
Does Revolutionary work on 2.3.4 updated Sensations?
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Yes
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XDA method of course

daman215 said:
xda is better, but if you are a noob and dont know what your doing and might brick ,htc way is for you because if you so happen to pull the cord while unlocking atleast you can call them and get it fix maybe.
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I'm sure they wouldn't fix it. Due to signing in and getting your device unlocked for HTC, voids your warranty. So more than likely they will count it as damage done by user and not really care that your phone isn't working.
But, if I'm incorrect, just tell me so.

There is a common misconception on this forum that using the HTC method voids your warranty, and I wanted to bring this to everyone's attention. According to HTC (link below), you only void your warranty IF you brick your phone. If you think about it, that kind of makes sense anyway. Does that change anyones mind about which method is better?
"What does this mean for me?
Unlocking the bootloader means that you now have the ability to customize software on your device. Please note that changing your bootloader can cause significant issues with your device and once you have unlocked your device, you have agreed to the disclaimer that states a change in warranty status such that in the event you render your device unusable, you are responsible for the recovery of your device, whether by repair or by other means."
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/faq

Which reads as "your warranty is not void as long as you don't have to use it".

Trekest said:
Which reads as "your warranty is not void as long as you don't have to use it".
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Right, but do you realistically expect them to honor your warranty if you brick it by any method (official or otherwise)? I dont think they really care what you did to kill the phone, I am willing to bet they wont replace it in either case.

ironeagle said:
Fastboot oem lock
above command will lock the bootloader
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Does that command really work? I thought getting S-ON was a lot more complicated than that.

[Q] difference between htcdev and revolutionaryf??

Hi guys, apologies in advance if this is a really stupid question but I really wanna know the answer...
What is the difference between what revolutionary does and what unlocking the bootloader with htcdev does?
I am wanting to install a custom rooted gingerbread ROM.
Thanks

Don't know if there are any technical difference, but i believe you have to register at htcdev.

I recomend revolutionary because you get permanent s-off and with htcdev ,it only unlocks some parts of it and you are still s-on plus your warranty gets voided.
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fr0zenblood75 said:
I recomend revolutionary because you get permanent s-off and with htcdev ,it only unlocks some parts of it and you are still s-on plus your warranty gets voided.
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Ah ok thanks... will use revolutionary then.
Just out of interest what are you not able to do when you still have s-on?

fr0zenblood75 said:
I recomend revolutionary because you get permanent s-off and with htcdev ,it only unlocks some parts of it and you are still s-on plus your warranty gets voided.
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+1 Use revolutionary. S-OFF, ClockworkMod (CWM) & su can't go wrong with those.
There are also some slick ICS ROMs now, better battery life for me but they do require a Firmware update. If you go down this route, 3.12 F/W can also run GB ROMs. Just make sure you do a Nandroid backup before any ROM changes.

root hboot 2.00 after bootloader

hi im new at this sort of stuff and require help. i wish to root my desire s to put custom roms on but it is locked and is hboot 2.00, what is the best way? should i use htc dev's bootloader or downgrade my hboot then root?
thanks

Tried the search button?
Downgrade is the best option. Using the htcdev method will void your warranty.

Search for revolutionary and use that first and follow instructions to the letter worked first time on my desire s 4 months ago and on 2 nd Rom. Also this does invalidate warranty as soon as you root phone but u gain loads of stuff n extras.
Have fun and enjoy a new phone, make a mistake or have a prob help always found on xda
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[Q] downgrade from hboot 1.29 to 1.18?

Hey everyone,
I have a Htc Sensation XE, with ICS (original rom) and i want to s off and root it, but the hboot is a 1.29 so the revolutionary way does not work, i know that there is a new way, the Juopunutbear one, but its seems a little hard, and to be honest i'm afraid to brick my phone, so can i just downgrade the phone ? flash any GB stock rom and use the revolutionary way to s off and root it ? if yes, how i'll do it ?
Thank you, and sorry for my bad english.

mouloudia007 said:
Hey everyone,
I have a Htc Sensation XE, with ICS (original rom) and i want to s off and root it, but the hboot is a 1.29 so the revolutionary way does not work, i know that there is a new way, the Juopunutbear one, but its seems a little hard, and to be honest i'm afraid to brick my phone, so can i just downgrade the phone ? flash any GB stock rom and use the revolutionary way to s off and root it ? if yes, how i'll do it ?
Thank you, and sorry for my bad english.
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i think if you downgrade your hboot version you will brick your device
instead of juopunutbear method you can do htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader and then root the device

and if a flash a RUU rom, a GB one, and then do the s off and root thing with the best method i know, the revolutionary one ^^

mouloudia007 said:
and if a flash a RUU rom, a GB one, and then do the s off and root thing with the best method i know, the revolutionary one ^^
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i don't know if you can do that when you are in completely stock situation
wait for someone else to confirm it
if yes then you can do that procedure

You can't flash gb ruu, if you aren't s-off, or if you don't have supercid. Try the juopuntuBeats, is very easy and no problem. If you try it 4-5 times before running the program you can do it very fast.
EDIT: you can't brick your phone, if you do all the things that is required!!! First of all unlock the bootloader, with the htc WEB SITE and then install a recovery with the sensation toolkit and then install ROOT. Finish if you want to s-off you have to do the juopuntubear if no, you can flash rom with s-on but only with 4ext recovery

ok ok, thank you very much my friends, you have been a great advise, thank you once again.

No problem, bu remember do it slowly and keep calm
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Try the juopunutbear method without htcdev unlock so you won't break your warranty! If you follow the instructions well, nothing will happen to your phone and it's not as tricky as you think
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Drunken_elk said:
Try the juopunutbear method without htcdev unlock so you won't break your warranty! If you follow the instructions well, nothing will happen to your phone and it's not as tricky as you think
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Nothin will happen, just S-OFF. Don't worry it works fine, when i do it first time i got success on the 4th try, now i can catch timing on the first attempt...so like other things it just depends on practice..

[Q] Worries about rooting

Hi
I want to root me device.
I have ICS hboot 1.27.
I can go with htcdev bootloader unlock, the only thing that Im worried about is warranty. If the device will have a hardware defact, htc will repair it under warranty?
I can also go with the wire trick and s-off, but Im worried about the whole process.
Please advise.
Best regards
Uri

Once you unlock the bootloader with htcdev you will lose waranty.
About the wire trick a lot of people have done it successfully
But you can always return your device into completely situation by using ruu.exe for waranty purposes
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Go slow and take it step by step...you'll be fine. After a year or so, I have never had much faith in my warranty anyway.

Hi
Do u mean the method of the wire-trick with no htcdev?
TNX
Uri

Hi, I just wanted to say I think you will be very happy once your device is rooted and have a custom rom. It made such a great difference in my device! Before rooting I was getting a lot of freezing and reboots, after rooting that's all gone. It keeps my device fresh and alive not to mention all the customization that you will be able to do with s off and rooting! Don't worry take it slow, follow there guides and you will be good to go. Best wishes
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