oi.
Have found 2 topics on my matter, but none offer a reasonable explanation, so I'm going to ask again in hope of getting one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084683
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350
The later one is only for some G1, so I guess it'd brick my phone, which I do not really feel doing.
So basically my question is:
1. After using Revolutionary to get s-off, will I EVER be able to get back to stock, i.e. S-ON, firmware?
2. Also, if I would use Revolutionary and HTC decides to push out an unlocked bootrom, can I switch to that one afterwards?
3. If the above is true, would some well-experienced user post a guide how to gain factory-like phone ?
This one talks about s-off and s-on. Not sure about switching bootloaders though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192565
Just run an RUU to undo it.
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In that thread are people saying that ruu does not restore warranty i'll wait for htc to officially unlock the device then
Thanks for the insight
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HTC is releasing their own version of the unlocker. I'm a bit confused of the difference between the two. Which will be better?
www.anandtech.com/show/4573/htc-announces-webbased-bootloader-unlock-tool-for-htc-sensation
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Revolutionary is better for sure. Do you want to give HTC record of your unlock and grounds to automatically deny your warranty claim for clear hardware issues? I sure don't. I'd rather they have no idea that I'm unlocked.
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moto211 said:
Revolutionary is better for sure. Do you want to give HTC record of your unlock and grounds to automatically deny your warranty claim for clear hardware issues? I sure don't. I'd rather they have no idea that I'm unlocked.
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Does Revolutionary have the ability to relock the bootloader? Because once you unlock it your warranty is void no matter what. So this would be a major factor in determining which way to go. I would like to know as I just purchased my sensation yesterday.
Now on a side note I rooted my N1 just after it released. It had some hardware issues I sent it in under warranty and had no issues concerning the warranty and being unlocked. I would like to see what parts of the warranty void upon unlocking via HTCs method. If someone can post a link I would be interested to read up on this.
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I would say Revolutionary!
hTC updates - take ages..by the time they come out with any essentials updates, i had changed to another device.
Revolutionary - almost every single day. They listen to our feedbacks n always trying to improve for the community...
Therefore, Revolutionary FTW!
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I agree with everyone the revolution is better in every way.
Plus if it gets bricked for HTC its voided and they KNOW it
but for revolution they wont know so if its bricked just drown it or back over it and its unvoided
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Does Revolutionary have the ability to relock the bootloader? Because once you unlock it your warranty is void no matter what. So this would be a major factor in determining which way to go. I would like to know as I just purchased my sensation yesterday.
Now on a side note I rooted my N1 just after it released. It had some hardware issues I sent it in under warranty and had no issues concerning the warranty and being unlocked. I would like to see what parts of the warranty void upon unlocking via HTCs method. If someone can post a link I would be interested to read up on this.
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While Revolutionary doesn't per se, you can do it by simply flashing your stock ROM and switch secuflag back to 3 which will relock you to S-On. Details are in this sticky, oh and the cool thing is if you flash the stock RUU back your bootloader just says PVT Ship S-Off so it looks as if you got your Sensation that way haha
That is exactly what I did. s-off my device via revolutionary method then rooted and super CID. I then re-flashed stock ruu back and now I have stock s-off but with super CID. I'll probably changed it back to Asian CID just for software updates. If that is how software updates check for proper version updates.
Since purchasing my Sensation 4G I have been eagerly reading these forums. Of particular interest to me have been the unlocking and flashing threads. I have been toying with the idea of doing so with my device, but since I heard HTC was going to release the official unlocker I have held off to compare the two. Now that both methods are available I am looking for some objective (key word!) advice.
1) Functional, is there any difference in capabilities after unlocking in using one method vs the other? If so please explain. (for instance, does one method allow you to do X and the other does not)
2) After unlocking via the HTC method, how does the process of flashing ROMs differ?
3) Assuming HTC does release official ROMs as it appears they will, can they only be flashed onto a phone that has been officially unlocked?
1. Yes there is a difference. The revolutionary hboot is better as it has extended fastboot commands.
2. You would still need root and a custom recovery.
3. Nope, official roms work fine as long as cid's match or you set up super cid.
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1. Yes there is a difference. The revolutionary hboot is better as it has extended fastboot commands.
2. You would still need root and a custom recovery.
3. Nope, official roms work fine as long as cid's match or you set up super cid.
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That is good information. I mistakenly believed that the HTC unlocker gave the user root.
Nope it doesn't give root. Actually you don't even need root to flash a rom, custom or otherwise. You just need a custom recovery installed (can be done through bootloader). Most custom roms come rooted.
Keep in mind that the official HTC way of unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty, whereas with the revolutionary method, you can reverse that and reapply S-ON (I don't know about reversing the HTC way).
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The AT&T way.
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BUT seriously the xda way cause it can be reversed
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xda way. Definitely.
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Fastboot oem lock
above command will lock the bootloader
Of course Revolutionary is much better
theres two sides
xda is better, but if you are a noob and dont know what your doing and might brick ,htc way is for you because if you so happen to pull the cord while unlocking atleast you can call them and get it fix maybe.
Does Revolutionary work on 2.3.4 updated Sensations?
HTC Way - Give HTC my personal and phone information and void my warranty.
XDA Way - Give HTC nothing, unlock via a reversible method. And if I have a hardware issue not related to unlocking, I can reverse the unlock and still utilize my device warranty.
XDA Way FTW !
Given how anal HTC has become over this matter. (I could care less their reasons, so please spare me any soap box moments over why HTC does things their way.) That is why the Sensation my be my last HTC device. Some other OEMs are less anal about 3rd party developers unlocking a device. So post-Sensation I'll probably get something that is more developer friendly.
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Does Revolutionary work on 2.3.4 updated Sensations?
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XDA method of course
daman215 said:
xda is better, but if you are a noob and dont know what your doing and might brick ,htc way is for you because if you so happen to pull the cord while unlocking atleast you can call them and get it fix maybe.
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I'm sure they wouldn't fix it. Due to signing in and getting your device unlocked for HTC, voids your warranty. So more than likely they will count it as damage done by user and not really care that your phone isn't working.
But, if I'm incorrect, just tell me so.
There is a common misconception on this forum that using the HTC method voids your warranty, and I wanted to bring this to everyone's attention. According to HTC (link below), you only void your warranty IF you brick your phone. If you think about it, that kind of makes sense anyway. Does that change anyones mind about which method is better?
"What does this mean for me?
Unlocking the bootloader means that you now have the ability to customize software on your device. Please note that changing your bootloader can cause significant issues with your device and once you have unlocked your device, you have agreed to the disclaimer that states a change in warranty status such that in the event you render your device unusable, you are responsible for the recovery of your device, whether by repair or by other means."
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/faq
Which reads as "your warranty is not void as long as you don't have to use it".
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Which reads as "your warranty is not void as long as you don't have to use it".
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Right, but do you realistically expect them to honor your warranty if you brick it by any method (official or otherwise)? I dont think they really care what you did to kill the phone, I am willing to bet they wont replace it in either case.
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Fastboot oem lock
above command will lock the bootloader
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Does that command really work? I thought getting S-ON was a lot more complicated than that.
hi im new at this sort of stuff and require help. i wish to root my desire s to put custom roms on but it is locked and is hboot 2.00, what is the best way? should i use htc dev's bootloader or downgrade my hboot then root?
thanks
Tried the search button?
Downgrade is the best option. Using the htcdev method will void your warranty.
Search for revolutionary and use that first and follow instructions to the letter worked first time on my desire s 4 months ago and on 2 nd Rom. Also this does invalidate warranty as soon as you root phone but u gain loads of stuff n extras.
Have fun and enjoy a new phone, make a mistake or have a prob help always found on xda
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Hi
I want to root me device.
I have ICS hboot 1.27.
I can go with htcdev bootloader unlock, the only thing that Im worried about is warranty. If the device will have a hardware defact, htc will repair it under warranty?
I can also go with the wire trick and s-off, but Im worried about the whole process.
Please advise.
Best regards
Uri
Don't worry mate go ahead...
If u worried about warranty den there is method for s off without HTC dev unlocked...
But u need to accurate when doing wire trick
And for warranty purpose u need to s on again , but worry not , u can s on by flashing RUU and some fastboot command
Stock Rom on HTC sensation is crappy.
Lot of stable Rom available in dev section .. worth to try
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