Hi guys, apologies in advance if this is a really stupid question but I really wanna know the answer...
What is the difference between what revolutionary does and what unlocking the bootloader with htcdev does?
I am wanting to install a custom rooted gingerbread ROM.
Thanks
Don't know if there are any technical difference, but i believe you have to register at htcdev.
I recomend revolutionary because you get permanent s-off and with htcdev ,it only unlocks some parts of it and you are still s-on plus your warranty gets voided.
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fr0zenblood75 said:
I recomend revolutionary because you get permanent s-off and with htcdev ,it only unlocks some parts of it and you are still s-on plus your warranty gets voided.
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Ah ok thanks... will use revolutionary then.
Just out of interest what are you not able to do when you still have s-on?
fr0zenblood75 said:
I recomend revolutionary because you get permanent s-off and with htcdev ,it only unlocks some parts of it and you are still s-on plus your warranty gets voided.
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+1 Use revolutionary. S-OFF, ClockworkMod (CWM) & su can't go wrong with those.
There are also some slick ICS ROMs now, better battery life for me but they do require a Firmware update. If you go down this route, 3.12 F/W can also run GB ROMs. Just make sure you do a Nandroid backup before any ROM changes.
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Do NOT accept the latest 2.3.4 OTA! It will still be S-OFF but it will say locked above, which means you can't flash Custom ROMS/ root/ whatever. Just a warning
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idavid_ said:
Do NOT accept the latest 2.3.4 OTA! It will still be S-OFF but it will say locked above, which means you can't flash Custom ROMS/ root/ whatever. Just a warning
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Proof?
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And how the hell is that ?? :s
VIPER
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Proof?
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On page 5 of ota 2.3.4 thread you can see the screen where it says locked. And now the hboot is 1.18.0000, instead of 1.17.00xx
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EddyOS said:
OK, OTA flashed and all fine - still have S-OFF so will get a system dump up this evening unless someone beats me to it
EDIT: Interesting HBOOT now...it says *** LOCKED *** at the top of it
EDIT EDIT: HBOOT is now locked, cannot flash a new recovery - DO NOT FLASH IF YOU WANT TO S-OFF
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Edit: He managed to get S-OFF back by downgrading, but be careful. Maybe it doesn't work for everyone
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Intresting
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I have bought the phone in India and it is not locked to any carrier. I can use any sim card in it. Following is the information in bootloader in my HTC Sensation.
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC boot
Aug 2 2011, 22:35:52
HBOOT
I want to attempt rooting on my phone but I dont know whether its bootloader is unlocked. Because I remember reading something about HTC releasing a tool for it. The phone is on Android 2.3.4.
So can it be rooted? Do I need to unlock it first? Can I use the method/tool in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
Please advise. TIA!
sarkar_007 said:
I have bought the phone in India and it is not locked to any carrier. I can use any sim card in it. Following is the information in bootloader in my HTC Sensation.
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC boot
Aug 2 2011, 22:35:52
HBOOT
I want to attempt rooting on my phone but I dont know whether its bootloader is unlocked. Because I remember reading something about HTC releasing a tool for it. The phone is on Android 2.3.4.
So can it be rooted? Do I need to unlock it first? Can I use the method/tool in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
Please advise. TIA!
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You can root without unlocking it but you will need to S-OFF
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can i use the tool in the link i posted to do s-off?
I've done this that way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
MIke
I have read the 1st post of the above thread. As I understand it, I have to do it in the following steps:
1. S-Off using revoltionary
2. Install CWM Recovery 5.0.0.8
3. Permanent root using su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip
4. Install Custom ROM
Is the above procedure right? Or have I messed any step?
I believe the Super CID step is for branded phones which are locked to a particular carrier. Since my phone is unbranded and not locked to any carrier, I dont have to do it, right?
Please advice if I am missing something.
sarkar_007 said:
I have read the 1st post of the above thread. As I understand it, I have to do it in the following steps:
1. S-Off using revoltionary
2. Install CWM Recovery 5.0.0.8
3. Permanent root using su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip
4. Install Custom ROM
Is the above procedure right? Or have I messed any step?
I believe the Super CID step is for branded phones which are locked to a particular carrier. Since my phone is unbranded and not locked to any carrier, I dont have to do it, right?
Please advice if I am missing something.
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To install new ROM's like the ICS 4.0.3 ones you need supercid because you have to flash a new firmware
The order in which you wrote is correct
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So I need Super CID for ICS ROM's only and not for Sense 3.5 ROM's, correct?
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So I need Super CID for ICS ROM's only and not for Sense 3.5 ROM's, correct?
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Technically incorrect as the ICS ROMs are sense 3.5 at the moment but I know what you mean. No need to SuperCID for Gingerbread based ROMs
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Yes. I meant gingerbread roms. So are the steps that I mentioned correct? And in the right order?
Btw, why does my phone has 'locked' written in the bootloader menu? Is it the locked bootloader from htc and do I have to first unlock it before attempting S-off?
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sarkar_007 said:
Yes. I meant gingerbread roms. So are the steps that I mentioned correct? And in the right order?
Btw, why does my phone has 'locked' written in the bootloader menu? Is it the locked bootloader from htc and do I have to first unlock it before attempting S-off?
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You should be able to S-OFF without unlocking it and it only says locked because the revolutionary tool and HTCdev tool work in slightly different ways. The steps are correct and in the right order
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Thanks, Jonny. You have been of great help.
Another thing. If I root my Sensation now and install a custom rom, will I still get the ICS update available notification whenever HTC releases it? And will I be able to apply that ICS update to my rooted phone?
I know there already are ICS rom's available but I would still want to check out what HTC offers in their official ICS update. Maybe a newer version of Sense?
Hi I got this cell with pre installed insert coin rom in bootloader it showed revolutionary and S-off
And hboot 1.27
I installed stock 3.30.401 ruu
And now it shows locked
My cell is rooted and everything is working fine
I installed clockworkmod I don't have stock recovery
Can I install that mod for camera to improve its quality
And can I install any rom?
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xunair said:
Hi I got this cell with pre installed insert coin rom in bootloader it showed revolutionary and S-off
And hboot 1.27
I installed stock 3.32.401 ruu
And now it shows locked
My cell is rooted and everything is working fine
I installed clockworkmod I don't have stock recovery
Can I install that mod for camera to improve its quality
And can I install any rom?
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Yeah, you can install anything if you're S-Off but you might wanna check if you have super CID. Also if you want a fully unlocked bootloader install 3.32 universal firmware
Super Cid is 1111111 yea maybe more or less 1
And mid is PG5813000
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Where can I get universal firmware?
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Where can I get universal firmware?
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Look in the dev section, there is a thread thats really hard to miss about universal firmware.
Your phone says LOCKED because you havent htcdev unlocked but you are S-OFF so you dont need to htcdev unlock and it is better that you dont because you keep your warrenty if your not. S-OFF is also better because it unlocks all partitions and not just the recovery partition
Jonny said:
Look in the dev section, there is a thread thats really hard to miss about universal firmware.
Your phone says LOCKED because you havent htcdev unlocked but you are S-OFF so you dont need to htcdev unlock and it is better that you dont because you keep your warrenty if your not. S-OFF is also better because it unlocks all partitions and not just the recovery partition
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If I install stock latest firmware the S-off won't change? And I don't even have to root again?
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Yeah you're always gonna be S-off. Root wont go away either, and most if not all roms these days are rooted.
Thanks everyone
I'm on 3.30.401 with sense 3.6
What's your battery timing? On stock?
I installed beats audio installer from play store by rockdev. Not sure if the music really improved.
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Guys my phone restarts while using
Don't know what's wrong it happened three times.
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xunair said:
Thanks everyone
I'm on 3.30.401 with sense 3.6
What's your battery timing? On stock?
I installed beats audio installer from play store by rockdev. Not sure if the music really improved.
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Beats is just an EQ profile, download somthing like PowerAMP which is my personal favourite and has a user-definable custom EQ.
Others also say DSP manager is extremely good as well so that could be worth a try
Hey everyone,
I have a Htc Sensation XE, with ICS (original rom) and i want to s off and root it, but the hboot is a 1.29 so the revolutionary way does not work, i know that there is a new way, the Juopunutbear one, but its seems a little hard, and to be honest i'm afraid to brick my phone, so can i just downgrade the phone ? flash any GB stock rom and use the revolutionary way to s off and root it ? if yes, how i'll do it ?
Thank you, and sorry for my bad english.
mouloudia007 said:
Hey everyone,
I have a Htc Sensation XE, with ICS (original rom) and i want to s off and root it, but the hboot is a 1.29 so the revolutionary way does not work, i know that there is a new way, the Juopunutbear one, but its seems a little hard, and to be honest i'm afraid to brick my phone, so can i just downgrade the phone ? flash any GB stock rom and use the revolutionary way to s off and root it ? if yes, how i'll do it ?
Thank you, and sorry for my bad english.
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i think if you downgrade your hboot version you will brick your device
instead of juopunutbear method you can do htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader and then root the device
and if a flash a RUU rom, a GB one, and then do the s off and root thing with the best method i know, the revolutionary one ^^
mouloudia007 said:
and if a flash a RUU rom, a GB one, and then do the s off and root thing with the best method i know, the revolutionary one ^^
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i don't know if you can do that when you are in completely stock situation
wait for someone else to confirm it
if yes then you can do that procedure
You can't flash gb ruu, if you aren't s-off, or if you don't have supercid. Try the juopuntuBeats, is very easy and no problem. If you try it 4-5 times before running the program you can do it very fast.
EDIT: you can't brick your phone, if you do all the things that is required!!! First of all unlock the bootloader, with the htc WEB SITE and then install a recovery with the sensation toolkit and then install ROOT. Finish if you want to s-off you have to do the juopuntubear if no, you can flash rom with s-on but only with 4ext recovery
ok ok, thank you very much my friends, you have been a great advise, thank you once again.
No problem, bu remember do it slowly and keep calm
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Try the juopunutbear method without htcdev unlock so you won't break your warranty! If you follow the instructions well, nothing will happen to your phone and it's not as tricky as you think
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Drunken_elk said:
Try the juopunutbear method without htcdev unlock so you won't break your warranty! If you follow the instructions well, nothing will happen to your phone and it's not as tricky as you think
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Nothin will happen, just S-OFF. Don't worry it works fine, when i do it first time i got success on the 4th try, now i can catch timing on the first attempt...so like other things it just depends on practice..
Hi guys,
I am sure this has been asked many times and it's very stupid question. I have reading since last three days and I am still unsure.
I got this HTC sensation from someone. It is rooted and has CWM. I am not sure if it's bootloader is unlocked or not. I assumed that if there is CWM then it must be bootloader unlocked but the attached picture confused me.
I just want to upgrade it to official ics. I tried to use this thread to upgrade but nothing happened. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Can someone direct me to right path? Please. I will really appreciate.
I am not a noob. Just new to htc phones
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The bootloader still locked according to the picture. So go to htcdev.com website and follow instructions to unlock it. You can upgrad to ics either through installing a custom ROM or an official RUU (Rom Update Utility). If you choose the RUU method you will loose the root and the custom recovery but will retain the unlocked bootloader and the soff status.
Read the following guides carefully to be able to upgrad your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193033
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Alsager said:
The bootloader still locked according to the picture. So go to htcdev.com website and follow instructions to unlock it. You can upgrad to ics either through installing a custom ROM or an official RUU (Rom Update Utility). If you choose the RUU method you will loose the root and the custom recovery but will retain the unlocked bootloader and the soff status.
Read the following guides carefully to be able to upgrad your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193033
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Hi,
@ Alsager:
Please stop telling people who are s-off to unlock their phones at HTC.
This is totally unnecessary and could possibly bork their phone in the future...
@ viny2cool:
You need to upgrade your firmware/radio in order to get everything working properly.
The Kohr-Ah thread that Alsager suggested is a good starting point.
Also look HERE
malybru said:
Hi,
@ Alsager:
Please stop telling people who are s-off to unlock their phones at HTC.
This is totally unnecessary and could possibly bork their phone in the future...
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Ok, thanks for the info, :thumbup:
so can you explain to me when the bootloader unlocking is needed.
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Alsager said:
Ok, thanks for the info, :thumbup:
so can you explain to me when the bootloader unlocking is needed.
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Hi,
A locked bootloader will prevent the user from using certain fastboot commands.
If the user has a locked bootloader,this can be unlocked with Kohr-Ah's "HBoot 1.27.1100 Patch (Go from Hboot 1.29.0000 to 1.27.1100)"