Hey guys.. I'm new here and I plan to stick around..
I just bought a used (for 1 year) Galaxy SL from my friend at a throwaway price. It's in superb condition and everything. Its been a few days, and here's the stuff I've done till now -
1. Immediately upgraded to DDLF2 (India) using Kies. Found some bugs after upgrade. For example, the promised "Video Snapshot" feature wasn't there. Also, the phone rebooted randomly many times in the day and battery ran out quickly (after about 3-4 hrs of moderate usage)
2. Next day, after noticing the weirdness, I decided to flash a custom rom. I heard from many, many sources that Frankenstain Mod and the Bam kernel, along with DDLF2, are the perfect combination for stable performance, nice looks and great battery life. So, following some instructions, I rooted my phone and flashed the rom and kernel. I was (am) REALLY impressed with the final result. I went ahead and installed apps, played games, showed off etc etc..
But sadly, the battery problem still remains. Of course, it has definitely improved a little, but the maximum it can stand till now is abt 6 hours (light-moderate use). Adding to the misery, I am a heavy user. I love playing games, composing music and sometimes doing homework in my phone. I installed JuiceDefender, SetCPU, Battery Saver Pro (which helped in increasing abt an hour). I listened to almost any piece of advice I got. I read through these forums too.
My previous phone running bada OS (Samsung Wave 525) had awesome battery life, which lasted for 2-3 days of HEAVY usage. Of course, I can't expect the same from an Android device, but seriously, is it this bad? And why is this happening? Is it because of -
1. The mod/kernel?
2. Worn-out battery? (i doubt it, every app states that the battery is "healthy")
3. Some internal problem in the phone?
Or is this just something every owner of this phone faces?
Sorry for the long post. Help is greatly appreciated. :fingers-crossed:
Iam on ddlf2
RapidGunner said:
Hey guys.. I'm new here and I plan to stick around..
I just bought a used (for 1 year) Galaxy SL from my friend at a throwaway price. It's in superb condition and everything. Its been a few days, and here's the stuff I've done till now -
1. Immediately upgraded to DDLF2 (India) using Kies. Found some bugs after upgrade. For example, the promised "Video Snapshot" feature wasn't there. Also, the phone rebooted randomly many times in the day and battery ran out quickly (after about 3-4 hrs of moderate usage)
2. Next day, after noticing the weirdness, I decided to flash a custom rom. I heard from many, many sources that Frankenstain Mod and the Bam kernel, along with DDLF2, are the perfect combination for stable performance, nice looks and great battery life. So, following some instructions, I rooted my phone and flashed the rom and kernel. I was (am) REALLY impressed with the final result. I went ahead and installed apps, played games, showed off etc etc..
But sadly, the battery problem still remains. Of course, it has definitely improved a little, but the maximum it can stand till now is abt 6 hours (light-moderate use). Adding to the misery, I am a heavy user. I love playing games, composing music and sometimes doing homework in my phone. I installed JuiceDefender, SetCPU, Battery Saver Pro (which helped in increasing abt an hour). I listened to almost any piece of advice I got. I read through these forums too.
My previous phone running bada OS (Samsung Wave 525) had awesome battery life, which lasted for 2-3 days of HEAVY usage. Of course, I can't expect the same from an Android device, but seriously, is it this bad? And why is this happening? Is it because of -
1. The mod/kernel?
2. Worn-out battery? (i doubt it, every app states that the battery is "healthy")
3. Some internal problem in the phone?
Or is this just something every owner of this phone faces?
Sorry for the long post. Help is greatly appreciated. :fingers-crossed:
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1. Its not the mod /kernel. Since I use the XDA-Bam kernel 15 cr5. So far no issues and the battery lasts at least full day. with heavy usage.
2. May be. Even I doubt it.
3. Not sure with the internal problem, but i doubt that there wont be any internal problem as well since you are using heavy applications
with out any lag.
suggestion
1. Do battery calibration
2. Recharge full until you get 100%
3. Clear the battery stats with cwm
4 again drain the battery completely.
5. Recharge it full to 100%
see if it works for you
Press thanks if it helps you
I have calibrated my battery already. It had helped in solving a major problem (wrong display of battery stats). But battery life hasn't been improved in any way.
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Perhaps your battery's dead.try usb port charging.
As a side note, my battery lasts Atleast two days on Frank mod after moderate use.
Since you seem new to android,http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32235503
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Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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RapidGunner said:
Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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Yes, that's normal. The voltage is about have as much, so it takes about twice as long to charge via USB cable.
RapidGunner said:
Well said man. Nice to see people admitting android being backward in the battery department. I guess battery technology hasn't advanced much yet, compared to smartphones themselves. Manufacturers have to choose between a thin, sleek design with abysmal battery and a "fat" one with more reliability. I guess they prefer the former, which is leading to problems like this...
And yeah, regarding usb charging, i've seen that it doesn't charge as fast as normal wall charging... Is it normal too?
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I read somewhere that samsung was investigating new hydrogen batteries that would make smartphones to last for some weeks
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samisax said:
Yes, it's like that. Most people say "heavy usage", but they don't imagine that people actually use their phone all the time. I'm always streaming music via 3G, reading news articles, auto-sync on 24/7, social-networking, and sometimes playing games. My phone doesn't make it through the day.
People that claim that their phones are lasting 2-3 days usually don't have a data plan, don't use wifi that much, don't play games, and don't use facebook. That's great for them, but I like to use my phone, and when you're making the most out of your Android, it'll run out of juice in 6 hours.
All Android phone are like this. If you're going to use a smartphone, you're going to have to have a charger nearby all the time.
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Totally agree with you...mine last less than half a day with normal use similar to yours..it will only last around a day plus if it's in 100% sleep mode
as in my opinion, everything is right with your battery.
u are using ur phone fully, so don't expect to much.
try the better battery stat app, it will show real stones in juice eaters.
I switched from CM9 to GB (Frank mod) mainly due to battery drain. But did not make a difference. However if i keep data off, battery lasts much longer, otherwise it drains around 30% at night. I am pretty sure XXKPQ was much better but don't want to go back. Anyone have other suggestions.
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cm9 is not a solution either.
best way is to switch to ddlf2 or xwlf2, bam kernel last version. imo, of course.
and main thing - try to find biggest eater. betterbatterystats will help you.
cukierkas said:
cm9 is not a solution either.
best way is to switch to ddlf2 or xwlf2, bam kernel last version. imo, of course.
and main thing - try to find biggest eater. betterbatterystats will help you.
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Frank mod is ddlf2. But still there is battery drain.
Can you offer any advice based on the attached screenshots
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here is the answer. lookout antivirus. it keeps your device alive instead of sleeping properly. you really need it?
magic locker is not a friend either. try to disable them first, make some discharge cycles without them and post the screens with screen time as well.
different problem
i dont have drainage problem...bt my phone takes a loooooooooot of time to get charged..... i have to charge for about 6-7 hours for the battery to fully charged frm 10%... i did not have this problem befor i used DDLF2
My suggestion: do not install antivirus apps, they drain the battery like hell! For the night battery endurance, just enable the deep sleep function (I use No frills cpu, you can enable the deep sleep from the settings menu) and set the governor and scheduler as you wish.
Battery drain is no more a problem for me since I'm on the Frank's MOD.
Remember to do a full recharge (with the device turned off) and a wipe battery stats for optimize the recharging time.
Cheers
wakelocks means your phone being unable to go to sleep mode for certain periods of time (usually because of retarded apps).
Antivirus on android/linux = scam.
that 3G Watchdog crap, do you really need it? (is the battery drainage worth it?)
I would say your battery duration seems normal, considering you're actually using your phone nonstop plus there's those crap background apps running all the time.
BUT if you wanna be sure about it, why don't you make a nandroid backup (using recovery mode), then factory reset? That should get you back to a clean ROM installation, then calibraty and test your battery overnight (of course make sure your phone is going to sleep mode and is using proper cpu governor). This is the most reliable way to see if your battery drain is related to usage, or just a faulty battery. Go clean, let it sleep, see how much battery it drains.
After this, restore the nandroid backup and clean your phone accordingly (remove crap apps or whatever).
Good luck!
for those on CM9, search for alpha 11 kernel in the general discussion thread...flash that over CM9 alpha 14
i get 3 days of battery on low usage......its pretty similar to ddlf2 in terms of battery drain for me atleast.....and i get ics too....
you can also use droidwall to block all the applications which use internet wihout any reason. they will block un-authorised access to internet and will surely cut a good volume of data usage but remember this works only if ur device is rooted
Hi I'm on paranoidandroid based on cm10 alpha3 and the battery life is at its best 14 hs!!!!
I will try some alpha 4 and check if battery life is improved, else some GB
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I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
I've been having the same problem lol. I'm currently on MIUI 1.9.23 and using Trinity ELP kernel.
I've had it on for about 6 hours and I'm down to 65%. I mean it's not terrible, but considering the phone was in airplane mode for 1.5 hours of that 6 hours, essentially the phone has really only truly been on for 4.5 hours. so I'm losing about 9%/hour.
I've literally tried everything I can to increase battery life but it just won't happen. Let me know if you figure anything out.
Hey you know I have had this phone for about a week, and I have tried all these roms on here and to be honest, the only one that does what I need it to do is the tweaked OTA version. As long as I have root and rom manager I am good. My Battery on any device does not last as long people say. So many things have to be considered. Like whether i am moving into 2g networks or how much i am using it.
The best thing for a battery though is to over charge it for an extra bit and then reset the stats. After dont recharge till it turns off by itself. Then do another over charge.
So by overcharging you mean leave it plugged in even after it says unplug it to conserve battery life
Yeah, when its plugged in it will charge continually and making sure its really fully charged.
I noticed this with my Milestone2, it would say done charging and it wouldnt last very long. So I read up on Battery charging and it said you should leave it charged for an extra hour or so. Only when trying to reach full battery stats.
Of course its ok to use it whenever but once in a while you should do a full drain and then full charge
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Plus, most of the people prob on here and doing everything under the sun to thier phones to tweak them. That could be a big reason why the batteries arent lasting so long.
Today I went through 3 different rom changes while at work (3 hours). After finally getting it back to where I was before work, my battery was at 23 percent!
Buy an extended battery off ebay or amazon for around 9-12$ Stock battery i can sometimes get about 12 hours depending on what i use my phone that day. But those 3500mah batteries should at least get you 18-24hrs for sure. Just make sure you cycle thru the battery a few times so it can start performing it's best.
Just put the Miui Rom on. Noiw am getting hang ups in Market on Wifi. I go to download something and it just sits there at starting download Any thought on how I can remedy this issue?
Arrgh...would have been nice if T-Mo and LG had put a working product out to begin with LOL!
mahgninnuc93 said:
I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
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It would be helpful to see your battery usage screen. I'll paste mine below. I'm also on CM7 (recent nightly) and I get good battery life IMO. Right now I'm at 8+ hours and I still have 76% left, but I've been at work all day so I've only used it for a few texts and calls and some brief web browsing. Typically I'm a very heavy user, always on, and with the stock battery and that kind of usage I only get 5-6 hours. I have a 4500mah battery and with that I can get up to 2 days of my normal heavy usage with that battery. It just looks like a brick and some people don't like that.
Are you a very heavy user? If so and your phone is constantly on then 6 hours may be all you can get. I think some of the claims people make are a bit misleading because there are so many factors that will influence your battery life.
Here's my screenshot.
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I've been having the same problem lol. I'm currently on MIUI 1.9.23 and using Trinity ELP kernel.
I've had it on for about 6 hours and I'm down to 65%. I mean it's not terrible, but considering the phone was in airplane mode for 1.5 hours of that 6 hours, essentially the phone has really only truly been on for 4.5 hours. so I'm losing about 9%/hour.
I've literally tried everything I can to increase battery life but it just won't happen. Let me know if you figure anything out.
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You should give miui another go with stock kernel and setcpu screen off profile, i get pretty good life.
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Disable bluetooth, disable GPS, and turn the screen brightness to 0% lol
@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
Based on my own person experience the only way to get +8hrs is if I'm on WiFi. On cellular....forget it.
Minimum for me on MIUI is 12 hours... With a good amount of usage, and HSPA+... I use SetCPU though, it helps alot. Best application for saving battery life IMO.
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@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
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You may be able to squeeze out a couple more hours if you use setcpu (from the Market lol). My suggestion though, if you're that heavy of a user, is you'll either need to keep your phone charging in the car (make sure you have at least a 1amp charger ... I use a 2amp charger in my car to make sure its charging at its max rate), or buy an extended life battery. I recommend the extended battery. There's a 3500mah one over in the accessories section that's pretty cheap and sounds like it works pretty well. I have the 4500mah one from Mugen Power. Its a little more costly but it also lasts a few hours longer than the 3500mah one.
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I use SetCPU though, it helps alot. Best application for saving battery life IMO.
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+1 Especially if your kernel supports undervolting, i can successfully uv -100 up to 1100mhz, i rarely need to go over that speed anyways and know i can get a crazy high quadrant score if i overclocked anyways. Settings i have righ tnow for setcpu are:
222mhz - 100 uv
up to 819mhz -100uv
Gets me easily 6-10hrs with lots of usageon stock battery.
It varies. I find that using a CM7 cooked ROM have terrible battery life. I'm sorry, just from my personal experience. Only other app that kills the battery is the GPS.
A Stock Cooked ROM gave me fantastic battery life. But.... its stock, and some things in Stock just can't stand. Also, had random reboots. Maybe I messed around with too much crap in my SD Card. Who knows. If I really wanted to, I could make a ROM stable on my phone. But just can't stand the Stock ROM.
Stock 2.3.3 = 15 hours moderate use
CM 2.3.5 = 8 hours moderate use
Regardless, if you want a long lasting battery, don't get an android. No phone is perfect. Only my battery extender 3500mha but I end up with a PHAT Phone. Plus its not protected by my rubber case.
Thats the only reason I don't use the battery extender.
After completely wiping my phone and installing whitehawkx celebration MIUI 1.9.23 I get awesome battery life. I think before since you had to "hack" 3G to get it working on whitehawkx MIUI was why it wasn't working great.
I'm on the whitehawkx kernel that comes with miui, whichever one that is. I'm going to give trinity a try. Then again, I have no apps installed except for facebook with notifications off and auto-sync off. But good news is my phone is not constantly awake now.
mahgninnuc93 said:
@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
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Here you go, setcpu free for xda members, thank the author and donate if you can.
http://tinyurl.com/yd99xfj
mahgninnuc93 said:
I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
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Give Eagleblood 2.3.3 1.07 a try, good battery life with its own kernel. I tried with Faux GB kernel gave me random SOD, and reboot, also took way too long to boot too.
barqers said:
After completely wiping my phone and installing whitehawkx celebration MIUI 1.9.23 I get awesome battery life. I think before since you had to "hack" 3G to get it working on whitehawkx MIUI was why it wasn't working great.
I'm on the whitehawkx kernel that comes with miui, whichever one that is. I'm going to give trinity a try. Then again, I have no apps installed except for facebook with notifications off and auto-sync off. But good news is my phone is not constantly awake now.
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Just installed this ROM. Will report back later what the results are. So far so good.
Does anyone know of a good clock / weather widget that doesn't use too much battery life?
First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
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I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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Have you found out what is using your battery?.. Even before I rooted and all the other stuff was getting at least 10hr.. now Im getting 24-28hours...
Are you running another ROM other than stock?
Didn't want to root if I needed to return anything, so I am running stock currently. Looking no app seems to be running away and draining all the battery. Everything looks the same as it did on my N1 in terms of what's draining the battery, which is what lead me to believe it's a bad battery possibly.
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papertreeprophet said:
Didn't want to root if I needed to return anything, so I am running stock currently. Looking no app seems to be running away and draining all the battery. Everything looks the same as it did on my N1 in terms of what's draining the battery, which is what lead me to believe it's a bad battery possibly.
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Yeah.. it very well could be.. mass produced items= bound to have some duds here and there..
Return it for another.. This is a great phone!!!
definitely return it.
Well if you do root than TPC's Rom is the best. It comes with kernel and the battery life is outstanding.
papertreeprophet said:
First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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I was concerned with battery life at first as well. When I first got this thing I had to plug up 9 hours after I unplugged. So now I am near 30 days with it and the battery seems to have leveled out enough for me to be happy. I got 16 hours on it STOCK no ROOT the other day without plugging in, was at 10% when I finally plugged in. Yesterday I activated Juice Defender again after getting some questions answered. I got 17 hours without a plug in and was still at 25%, so i probably could have gotten 20+ hours if I needed it.
So I am happy now 17+ hours is plenty long enough for me, I always plug in at bedtime anyway.
I'm wondering how many people who are reporting battery issues, if they have calibrated them. Charge your battery all the way, use the phone until the battery dies, then fully charge. This will give a more accurate reading as far percentage used.
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I'm wondering how many people who are reporting battery issues, if they have calibrated them. Charge your battery all the way, use the phone until the battery dies, then fully charge. This will give a more accurate reading as far percentage used.
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first thing I did and I actually never have reported battery issues......I was giving it time to season and it has leveled off nicely.
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Well if you do root than TPC's Rom is the best. It comes with kernel and the battery life is outstanding.
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There is a new ROM Piret RC1, the battery life is amazing, it has a different Kernel as the one with TPC has it';s problems.
RC1 is clean fast and in 2 hours I used up 4%. Then turned every possible service on used it up like crazy to drain the battery, installing/backing up/ flashing new rom and it took 2 hours with heavy usage to drain from 17%. Just to compare last night I had a TPC ROM and was on WhatsApp for about an Hour and battery went from 85 to 34 %.
Re: Returning the phone.
First once you root you can the same way unroot, make sure first you install a stock ROM.
My friends have the same problem, one with this phone, and others with android phones in general, don;t waist your time returnig. To be safe you also have a year to send it to Samsung to get fixed if there is something wrong with it.
Basically, running apps will kill battery, location services kills it the most, sync not so much, heavy use of data does to (I have LTE plan). Use power saver to start at 70%, configure it right, use the CPU app to manage the speed ondemand.
Most important don't frick out, the andoid phones are like that, the major difference is that Iphone does maybe 20% of what android phone does in standby and many things are not available on Iphone, so the battery is better. You will not get more then a day of use on android if you use it to your benefit. 28H is mostly standby, no sync, no internet usage, just moderate. I used to use Iphone heavy and battery would not last a day.
Get a good data plan, don;t use WI-Fi unless u have too, when syncing with the car plug it in the charger, spend extra $10 get a Samsung cable from them, don;t go for cheap 10 dollar once or even 1 dollar once from China, they are very slow to charge. My cable from the box take 1.5 H to charge to 100.
Hope it helps, please don;t quote me on anything, this is purely based on research and one week usage and trying different things, it's strictly my opinion, don;t expect your phone to last like they use too, it's 21st century and techno in it is overwhelming and needs power. Keep the phone have two cables and enjoy!
This is my first smart phone, after 20 plus years of having cel phones. I try to read before posting any questions.
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This is my first smart phone, after 20 plus years of having cel phones. I try to read before posting any questions.
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good habit to get into thanks for that....the search button is your friend.
I have been reading on the battery issues, long before I posted. I have done everything from calibrating, to using juice defender ultimate, to doing a ritualistic dance to try and coax more battery life out of this phone. Still with nothing but 2 phone calls and one quick spelling look up, dead within 8 1/2 hours.
I just got my extra battery and charger from samsung in today, already fully charged up this battery and will see what it can do for a few days. I'm hoping my problems are just a random bad battery. I also factory restored and am running bare minimum on apps just to try and remove all variables. If there still is a problem I will exhange it for another one next week. I just hope they still have some white ones in stock
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I have been reading on the battery issues, long before I posted. I have done everything from calibrating, to using juice defender ultimate, to doing a ritualistic dance to try and coax more battery life out of this phone. Still with nothing but 2 phone calls and one quick spelling look up, dead within 8 1/2 hours.
I just got my extra battery and charger from samsung in today, already fully charged up this battery and will see what it can do for a few days. I'm hoping my problems are just a random bad battery. I also factory restored and am running bare minimum on apps just to try and remove all variables. If there still is a problem I will exhange it for another one next week. I just hope they still have some white ones in stock
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My battery went completely dead too. I returned mine. Black model though. New one is doing okay so far. Better since it doesn't report 100% battery until a reboot...
Finally went and exchanged it last night. So far I have gotten 9 hours of battery life and am only down to 70%. Better than before, but the vertical lines on the screen are worse on this one than the last.
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I have almost the opposite "problem." Not that I'd call it a problem just yet. I had my phone running from about 10am till 1am yesterday. I went to bed and plugged the charger in and it instantly said "battery charged 100%. Remove charger." 15 hours with no drain at all? Granted, I didn't do much with it yesterday but send about 20 text messages.
Going on 32 hours+ battery life and no vertical lines.. bought it when it came out Nov6....
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papertreeprophet said:
Finally went and exchanged it last night. So far I have gotten 9 hours of battery life and am only down to 70%. Better than before, but the vertical lines on the screen are worse on this one than the last.
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30% in 9 hr's? you need to see what is killing your battery... unless you play games or on the net all day.. that is not good at all..
I lose about 1% an hour..
I don't know what you smoking man but i tried his rom and never had issues. Let me tell you I Have ORD so my suggestion will be based on my usage rather than prediction. I have tried most of the themed/tweaked roms. Don't like stock rom.
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There is a new ROM Piret RC1, the battery life is amazing, it has a different Kernel as the one with TPC has it';s problems.
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Considering I used to be lucky to get 10% drain an hour on standby before, the 3% our so i'm losing an hour now is awesome. And in those 9 hours I checked google reader and played some levels of Trial Extreme 2.
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Here is my battery currently.
70% in a little over 20 hours was unheard of on my last one.
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Over 5 days very light use. It is amaze me so I decide to share the experience with you sensation comrades!
Used to have battery drains with some kernel, customed ROMs. A week ago decide to try Bricked kernel and made some settings. Then the battery performance suprise me. In the past have strongly suspect HTC can not built energy saving hardware. It turns out that the HTC dev teams can not make things right. Many DEVs at XDA did better jobs then those "professionals".
See the picture.
Battery: stock
Rom: Bulletproof 1.5
Kernel: Bricked
Other CPU usage profiles and voltage settings.
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*cough* airplane mode
i can make my phone last 1 month if i want to
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*cough* airplane mode
i can make my phone last 1 month if i want to
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Don't cough. I used to suffer battery drains at the airplain mode. About 25% per night. Try it yourself, you will know.
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it's funny when people try to achieve better battery life, with smartphones and share their technique on how to have less drainage. everyone have their own purpose of using the phone. it really boil downs to the user. for me the best way to achieve great battery results is to not use your phone, just let it sit or get a regular cellphone.
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This is awesome. Don't listen to negativity pretty impressive stuff even on airplane mode.
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moshe22 said:
This is awesome. Don't listen to negativity pretty impressive stuff even on airplane mode.
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i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
shiningarmor said:
i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
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This.
What's the point of buying such an overpowered phone if all you're going to do is leave it on airplane mode and gloat about the battery life? Might as well get a razr v3.
Agreed besides its not negativity dude, we just think its pointless to preserve battery and dont use your phone at all. I got Anker for mine and everything else is stock. I can play, watch videos, use WiFi , browse the web etc and it lasts about 14 hours which is good enough for me until I get home
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Agreed besides its not negativity dude, we just think its pointless to preserve battery and dont use your phone at all. I got Anker for mine and everything else is stock. I can play, watch videos, use WiFi , browse the web etc and it lasts about 14 hours which is good enough for me until I get home
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Same here, besides, these days there's alway a charger in the neighborhood for emergency's.
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To be honest mine doesn't last more than 8 hours with an Anker, obviously because of the amount of use, however, I think is pretty impressive that this guy got 5 days. I was just pointing that out lol
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i think mine was like 2 days with full usage (wifi mobile connection music camera)
I just put mine on the charger when it hit 50% 2 days 9 hours, 32 min of calls, 17 min of screen time, Wifi on the whole time. Energy ICS ( 15th March one ) stock kernel. I get three days out of it regularly but I'm a light user for the most part.
shiningarmor said:
i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
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Agree.
I'm growing tired of having to preserve battery on my sensation. I'd like to have a fully functioning phone with a battery that last at least 12 hours. That's what I'd call good battery life.
When you have a smartphone like the sensation, but you have to dim the LED, turn off auto sync, bluetooth and wifi (when not in use), use 3G only when necessary, it kinds of defeats the purpose of having a smartphone.
That being said, I started using anker battery about 3 weeks ago, and yesterday I got the best battery life ever! Unplugged the charger at 9AM, spent the day playing a bit of games, surfing in 3G for a while, a few phone calls, wifi on all the time, GPS for around 20 mins, and at 2AM, the battery shows 41%! But of course auto sync was off and the screen brightness was about 40% all the time.
the longer I can last my battery it's six hours, I'm a heavy user. I really don't get it, why would you by such a good phone to not use it, and squeeze the juice out of it?
edgg51 said:
the longer I can last my battery it's six hours, I'm a heavy user. I really don't get it, why would you by such a good phone to not use it, and squeeze the juice out of it?
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6 hours is normal. for me, a smartphone is well, it's for u to fully exploit it's potential. not by dimming the screen down to 0% brightness, everything off, airplane mode then bragging "oh look! my phone lasts 6 days"!
reminds me of my iphone 4 days where u have to dim the screen down to 10% if you're gonna go on a trip. turning off sync, wifi, bluetooth and data and even that u dont have enough for 1 whole day. normally lasts for like 5 ~ 6 hours then battery low warning comes up.. that's pathetic imho.
well i got over that, turned to android and now rocking with my chicitec 1900mah battery, heavy use entire day, wifi sync data off all the time , camera 80% of the time and a little bit of gaming. started off at 8am then going back to the hotel at 9pm , still holds 30% charge. (well im on a holiday that time , have no roaming plans and it's wise to turn data and sync off lul)
Well got lots of disagreement from you guys, you must know my point is not what you discussed. The point is when you are not using your phone you do not like the battery run out. I used to have 25% power drop for airplain mode that is too much. Now the overnight electric consumption is just 1%. When using the phone the performance and the power saving choice must be shifted. For that I forced 2 CPUs go online all the time by default. With wifi and gps on I use 12% battery per hour.
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I'm actually a heavy user I have the virtuous inquisition rom I get about 10 hours. I'm not bragging but all you guys that are getting upset for a guy that posts great battery life cmon it helps if anything someone can learn something new here. Go troll something else as we know the sensation Is a great phone we're just trying to get maximum potential with a lot of use.
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I don't see the point of this. Yes ur batter lasted 5 days. That's great but u used your phone like 10 times. See ur screen time. Umm good job NOT using your phone. Batteries generally last long without no use.
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shiningarmor said:
i dont see a point for smartphones to last this long. if u call this awesome, u must be quite naiive to even buy a smartphone. if u really want long battery life, ur better off with a nokia 3310, that **** can last u 2 full weeks..
and smartphones arent meant to have long battery life also. to me, good battery life means last long enough for one whole day of use, e:g taking photos, browsing, etc. why do u think smartphones carry powerful cameras? well they're for u to use and not let it sit in your pocket just to show off your phone can last this long.
to you battery life fanatics, you guys are pretty much kids in your own world. u buy a powerhouse phone and yet u dont want to use it, u rather save the battery. what a waste of money
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That is not quite right...
Before sensation i had a HTC Snap an used it fo about year and a half, wit heavy every day use 24/7 bluetooth, 3G, about 8 email accounts, etc...
with standard ROM, battery lasted only for day since day one, with custom ROM i managed to get up to 2 weeks maximum battery life, normal use no restrictions battery lasted for about 7 - 9 days wich was excelent, the only drainage ocoured when u turn on GPS, which drains battery compleatley in 2 -5 hours maximum, thats my experience,
i would be more than happy to acheive 48 hours of normal phone usage without recharging.
There was a topic in our local news about battery drainage aswell, and they mentioned that the cause mainly is the free apps that pushes you ads, and prevents the internet connection from idle.....
mrveiss said:
That is not quite right...
i would be more than happy to acheive 48 hours of normal phone usage without recharging.
There was a topic in our local news about battery drainage aswell, and they mentioned that the cause mainly is the free apps that pushes you ads, and prevents the internet connection from idle.....
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That is right.
I removed apps that call for internet update regularly. They are designed for 24/7 mobile internet connection. It is a waist of power when you sleep.
When phone idel (airplain mode) the CPU frequency is set to be 192/384 MHz. Phone sleep when you sleep.
During talk Both CPU frequencies are set at 192/480 MHz. This is far more sufficient.
When the screen on the max freq. is set to 1566.
When playing game Both CPUs are OC at 1920.
When the phone is in use you will need the performance. When the phone is not in use and still consuming power, it is called "battery drain".
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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I tried Juice Defender Plus and Faux DS kernel in January but never got any amazing results, but maybe my phone wasn't that healthy back then. Also, I didn't do anything to save battery life during the 66 hour test other than setting the screen brightness to "Auto". I also made several phone calls - as far as I remember it was about one hour and thirty minutes in total.
This really makes me wonder how long I can get in "power-saver" mode (dim, wifi off, 2G, Juice Defender, Faux DS) with the 3500mAh battery. Has anyone tried this?
I would be happy with 12 hours of light/normal use.
Im using the trinity kernel. SetCPU,Juice defender, auto dim screen, Wefi plus,
the only thing that syncs often is facebook on the hour.
and I cant make it 8 hours on one charge.
I rarely use the phone for calls mostly use text for work and friends.
facebook & web through out the day. if i let the phone sit and dont touch it the battery will last all day
I know I am no "light" user. I bought the damn phone to USE it. but I wouldn't say I am always a heavy user. I dont expect to stream for 8 hours but it would be nice If i could listen to the stern show,check Email,facebook,Web & text and only need to charge once halfway through the day then again overnight
Most I've gotten was like 22 hours! -___-
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I am definitely a HEAVY user and get around 16-18 hours on a charge. Constantly have Wi-Fi on, sometimes mobile data, gaming such as Temple Run and Angry Birds, and atleast half the time listening to music through PowerAmp. Constant texting, and maybe about 20-30 minutes of calling.
Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
PhilipCourtois said:
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
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Have you popped open the phone to look at the board?
Just curious if there's any variation. Screened on revision number, etc.
PhilipCourtois said:
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
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What is your screen on/display time?
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...Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone...
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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What is your screen on/display time?
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Not sure - I should have recorded that... Next time I will!
PhilipCourtois said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
theking_13 said:
Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
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How fantastic - and thanks for the great constructive feedback! I love the warm feeling of knowing that the time I spend sharing my knowledge is appreciated without disbelief.
Really, I don't want to waste my time if you can't read. Just wanted to share my battery experience with stock 2.3.3, non-power saver configuration under normal phone use. And my idea of normal phone use is NOT just checking the time like you say. Compared to my experience when I originally got the phone I'm now getting way better battery life. I believe that the spread in battery performance is wide and far too many people settle with 4-6 hours of use before recharging with the reasoning that it's a dual-core phone and therefore swallows power as was it Gatorade. If I'm wrong and everyone knows that the G2X can go days on a charge then sorry that I brought it up.
Well when your display usage doesn't even show up, yet your cell standby and phone idle are at the top of the list, this means YOU ARENT USING YOUR PHONE. Any way you want to play this out, its not surprising that you get so much life out of your phone since its usually used as a fancy paperweight.
Maybe have your display usage on par with cell standby, then come show off amazing battery life.
Also, the 4-6 hours of life is most common on stock Froyo/GB. Not an issue anymore with custom roms.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless.
theking_13 says you're not using your phone enough for the 66h to be that impressive.
PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
Both of you are right. Philip is in fact not a very heavy user, so a longer life for a battery isn't completely surprising. However, phone idle accounts for 21%, whereas everything else accounts for 79%, which is by no means at all "a fancy paperweight". You can even see that the apps that were used account for 39% of the usage at that point, which is more than the cell standby. Furthermore, judging by the graph statistics, the phone was turned on relatively frequently.
Now for something on topic: I'd be interested in seeing someone do a proper test on a 3500mAh battery. Something along the lines of charging it up to 100%, leaving the screen on at 100%, settings both min and max CPU clock speeds to >1000MHz, and doing whatever else you would normally do on your phone in addition to that. Then posting a screenshot of how long that would last them. I predict somewhere along the lines of 9-12h, but it'd still be more informative than a lot of the reviews here. Not to say that the reviews here are unhelpful of bad, because they are very much so helpful.
Good point, but the app usage on GB is extremely inaccurate. I have had my phone on for 3 hours, 27% usage by cell standby, and I played Draw Something for two minutes, and it shows up as using 17% already? ICS graphs on the other hand, are more accurate.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
My highest is 8 hours. WTF
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How much do you use your phone in those <8 hours? I have moments when I don't touch my phone for hours, and generally I go down at about 2%/h when on standby. So if you ignored those, I'd probably be in the same boat as you.
For example, this is me today:
As you could probably tell, I haven't exactly used my phone a lot today, so I'm at 47% after 11h. However, I tested my battery this weekend by setting my screen brightness to 100%, screen timeout to never, and CPU min/max to 1100MHz/1100MHz. These were the results:
As you can see, my battery didn't even make it to 4h, so it really depends on how you use your phone.
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Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless...
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You're right. I never wanted to start a debate - all I wanted was to shed light on the fact that battery life of the G2X can be fantastic - even on stock GB - with the simple upgrade to a 3500mAh, cheap ($9) battery. Before I had the chipset replaced, the phone did NOT last very long and from everything I read on the forums, crappy battery life should be expected if not flashing a custom ROM with battery saver kernel. I'm just saying that that's not true for every phone.
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PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
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If by "stock experience" you mean the condition I bought the phone in - then yes. But by my standards, the phone is now in as close to a stock condition as you can get - all I did was put in the larger battery. It's running stock GB 2.3.3 with all the T-Mobile bloatware still on it, Google+ on, data sync on, WiFi, 4G etc. on and screen on auto. And I really doubt that LG put in a "special", fantastic chipset when I sent it in for a repair.
Anyway, it seems a real enlightening discussion is on the way once we really start comparing use versus battery life and see that our phones differ dramatically in this regard.
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Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
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Well I'll tell you everything I did in a sec. But the battery helped maybe 20 minutes, but it is a new battery, so its going to get better results than one that is say 9 months. If it was a brand new LG battery, I'd get the same results.
Now onto what I've done to get this much. First of all, I use EaglesBlood rom and Faux's v0.48 kernel, CM Driver, not DS. I use Wi-Fi constantly, say for about 3-5 hours of the 16 hours that its used. For the most part, I have the network set to only connect to EDGE, not UMTS or HSPA. So 2G for most of the day. Then on the way home, I use 4G for around 30 minutes to an hour, and thats what kills my battery like there's no tomorrow.
Some other things I've done are replaced the Gallery app (supposedly uses battery all the time scanning for files) and use QuickPic instead. Replaced the stock Browser with Dolphin Browser and not only is it smoother, but it doesn't run in the background after I've closed it. Also, turned off logging for the SU app, turned off notifications for Facebook, Play Store, Words with Friends, Scramble with Friends, and auto synching for my Google accounts. Basically turned off background notifications for all apps except Pulse (news app) and Voxer (walkie talkie app).
Lastly, I have my CPU set to 216-816 MHz all the time, unless I play a game and whatnot. I notice no lag whatsoever while playing music and texting/on XDA/ browsing Pulse/etc. I undervolted -25mv across the board, even after what was already lowered through Faux's kernel. Ill post a screen shot so you know what they are. I found if I lowered them more, I'd get reboots sometimes when turning on Wi-fi.
If you have any questions, reply here or PM me. I'll be happy to help.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
something that ive been always been wondering..
every time i get a new phone i seem to have bad luck with them when it comes to battery..(optimus 4x, nexus 4, nexus 5) i always see reviews and comments saying they get X screen on time and i always get X-2 screen on time and poor standby time
ive tried everything, changing roms, kernels, checking wakelocks turning wifi or 3g off when not used(LTE always off)
the most i ever seem to get is 3 hours and thats a really good day on low performance(underclocked) and i also barely game..
how in the hell do people get 5 hours screen time and complain about it.. meaning that they actually get more! and they say they game and browse alot.. im not only comparing to people online, i also compare with my friends who get good battery.. we dont seem to be doing anything different
does anyone know the problem/solution to this?!
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
CHEERS
It's all about looking at what is using your battery and mitigating as many of them as you can. Some people might find they can't live without many features of a phone and so will generally get less time then someone who is willing to sacrifice certain features or adjust their usage to improve battery time.
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
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This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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Hannibal226 said:
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
CHEERS
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
jjhiza said:
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
kernel settings
fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer
namnam123 said:
ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
kernel settings
fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer
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I recommend do this on a stock ROM, but can work on any.
Have your phone set up normally. Charge it full, reboot in "safe mode" and don't open any apps. Just let it do its thing for a few hours, or over night. See how the battery life is now. It should improve. If so, you got something 3rd party killing it.
Turn off location reporting and location history. It'll improve your battery life dramatically without making any noticeable impact on the phone's capabilities (including Google Now). I also recommend disabling Google+ if you don't use it.
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
namnam123 said:
what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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BirchBarlow said:
The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
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Exactly
jjhiza said:
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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yes i always wipe the cache and dalvik cache
Make sure wifi scanning is off too. And ages ago usb fast charge used to cause issues with massive battery drain when the screen was on. So turn it off and see if it helps. I am talking years ago tho. It was literally meant to be turned on when plugging in and leaving the phone alone. Then disabled when taking off charge
Also post some screen shots of your battery stats
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