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Which Jellybean Rom to use?

There seems to be quite a few jelly bean roms right now, and without an official leak, I am sure each one has its ups and downs at this point.
I am coming from synergyrom, and want to give JB a try. Since theres is still "beta" I am not sure I wanna try that right away.
Which is the most stable at this point??

Definitely liquid smooth...I've tried others and always revert back to touch wiz stock based roms, and i despise touch wiz...liquid smooth jb is the best I've flashed
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liquid smooth is awesome for aosp JB, but touchwiz there's not much thats super stable imo

thanks for the input so far!
Please note if there are known issues, that might help make decisions too.
Thanks all!!

I like codename. Super smooth, frickin' fast and barely believable battery life! Some apps don't stream audio over bluetooth and you have to enable a couple of Developer options to address screen flickering, but those are truthfully very minor annoyances you'll be happy to overlook when you get a taste of that ROM.
Seriously, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900479

I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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duarian said:
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I can respect that. Haven't tried liquid as the CNA ROM got posted around the time I got this phone. I've heard the 160 character error msg is a bit of a red herring, that the msgs actually do get sent but just say they didn't. Was that your experience or did they actually not get sent?

One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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bc760 said:
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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Well said.
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bc760 said:
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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There is a fix for this now but just has not made it's way into all AOSP roms yet. There are in most of the newer AOKP builds right now.
The biggest issue still is the low volume when recording video's. This is an issue in all AOSP roms and has not been fixed yet. I know I also read a lot about speakerphone and in call volume problems but not sure to much about the actual issue.
This is why I am still sticking to an ICS TW Rom. I like knowing everything on my device just works.

The only major thing that keeps from moving to CM10, or Liquid Smooth is the lack of USB Audio. I leave my phone on my dock at work and stream Pandora through the dock's usb audio. I've been using SynergyROM for awhile now, and will probably stick with it until the USB Audio issue is fixed.

AOKP's new build has been great for me. No real issues to report yet...been on it since 3 came out a week or so ago?

i haven't been too impressed jb at all tbh.

Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***

What are the general downsides with using these JB roms weither it be TouchWiz or AOSP. I'm going to take the jump soon but whats fixed or unfixable? I hear some people say screen flicker and no 3G etc.

Neverendingxsin said:
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?

I would hold out a few more weeks for a touchwiz based rom - I tried Incubus' and got a number of random reboots. Cleanrom 2.5 has been working great!

Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.

AndyMan386 said:
thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
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Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.

Neverendingxsin said:
your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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link to CM10 data fix?

[Q] Cyanogenmod 10 is really buggy. Which ROM should I use?

I want one Jellybean based with amazing battery life and and that I can change the function of the hardware buttons (so I can set the app manager to the menu key and long hold the app manager to open up the app switcher.) I would like one with good battery life (Cyanogenmod so far has been dying on me quick). Thanks.

kr00k3d said:
I want one Jellybean based with amazing battery life and and that I can change the function of the hardware buttons (so I can set the app manager to the menu key and long hold the app manager to open up the app switcher.) I would like one with good battery life (Cyanogenmod so far has been dying on me quick). Thanks.
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BAKED BlackBean and AOKP are good roms.

Could you please specify what's buggy about CM10? And are you sure the poor battery life doesn't simply have to do with the large amount of whites in the interface of AOSP in comparison to Sense?

All cm10 based ROMs have the video Recording mic bug. That's the only thing that keeps me from using cm10 based ROMs.

Baked has the best battery life I've seen so far. I've used everything but paranoid android for an extended period of time.
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I used ParanoidAndroid for a while, which is a very nice, smooth running ROM with a good battery life.
As Klin moved to Baked, I followed him and i do not regret Baked is even smoother, nicer and has a better battery life. Simply a great ROM!! :good:

Buggy? CM10 is as stable as any ROM I've ever used. It's been my DD since before it was even officially supported. If you think it's buggy, then the opinions of others really aren't going to sway you, so try them all and pick the one you think as the least "bugs".

Well if this is in comparison to Sense based ROMs, then any jelly bean ROM will feel buggy, as they're all aosp based and all still are wip.
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JN3141 said:
Well if this is in comparison to Sense based ROMs, then any jelly bean ROM will feel buggy, as they're all aosp based and all still are wip.
Tapatalked from my HTC One S running CM10
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I wouldn't call CM10 "wip", it's called stable now. I assume that means that it's done, basically
Also, even the vanilla Sense rom isn't perfectly stable for me, there are a few annoying bugs, for example getting stuck in airplane mode.
But then again, I haven't got the chance to actually try CM10 yet, so I should probably wait until then before I claim anything

Mekuso said:
Could you please specify what's buggy about CM10? And are you sure the poor battery life doesn't simply have to do with the large amount of whites in the interface of AOSP in comparison to Sense?
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I ended up using 2GB of data for some reason. I looked and wifi disables itself and cannot be renabled unless i reboot. I boot up an app and my screen goes to some static like stuff and then finally boots up the app (which isn't that much of a problem) but the Data issue is really something I would like to fix because I have autoupdate apps on.

sherry478 said:
All cm10 based ROMs have the video Recording mic bug. That's the only thing that keeps me from using cm10 based ROMs.
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yes and apparently, that is not gonna change soon ... thanks to help me notice that bug...

lvtjul said:
yes and apparently, that is not gonna change soon ... thanks to help me notice that bug...
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I don't know about the mic but what kept me going back from CM to Sense roms is that it would not record videos on 720p or 1080p. It would save them sometimes and when you try to open them, cannot play, and deletes them. Also, the camera focus does not seem to compare to Sense camera, the latter is miles ahead. Seems to be because htc has not released the code for the camera yet.
Gaming seem smoother on CM though, and the interface is smoother/faster than Sense for me. But not being able to use well this great camera is a pity.
Maybe you need to try another baseband? It worked ok for me with the stock from TMOUS 1.53, up to the latest one from OTAs. Also works with the recommended radio from this page: http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42

[Q] To TouchWiz or Not to TouchWiz

Long time Continuum and Fascinate user. Just got the Verizon GS3 Yesterday. Spent way too much time reading a million different threads and doing a million different google searches. Figured I'd just ask my questions in one post and be done with it.
On my previous Galaxy S phones I loved everything about CM9 and AOKP except that losing TouchWiz meant the camera took a major step backwards. The battery life also wasn't quite as good as the stock ROMs. Ultimately I couldn't take being stuck on Gingerbread any longer so I went full time to AOKP and lived with the fact that my HD videos no longer looked anywhere near as good.
I can't even find but one thread on a different website that seems to refer to AOKP for the Verizon GS3 and it was only 6 pages of posts so that gives me great pause.
My questions are these.
Are there significant trade-offs ditching TW-based ROMs and going to CM10 or AOKP? If so, what is lost by ditching TouchWiz that is of value?

spearoid said:
Long time Continuum and Fascinate user. Just got the Verizon GS3 Yesterday. Spent way too much time reading a million different threads and doing a million different google searches. Figured I'd just ask my questions in one post and be done with it.
On my previous Galaxy S phones I loved everything about CM9 and AOKP except that losing TouchWiz meant the camera took a major step backwards. The battery life also wasn't quite as good as the stock ROMs. Ultimately I couldn't take being stuck on Gingerbread any longer so I went full time to AOKP and lived with the fact that my HD videos no longer looked anywhere near as good.
I can't even find but one thread on a different website that seems to refer to AOKP for the Verizon GS3 and it was only 6 pages of posts so that gives me great pause.
My questions are these.
Are there significant trade-offs ditching TW-based ROMs and going to CM10 or AOKP? If so, what is lost by ditching TouchWiz that is of value?
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I switched from stock to AOSP and then tried using some TW-based ROMs on 4.1.1 such as CleanRom, LeanMeanJellyBeanMachine, etc. and I always end up switching back to AOSP. Currently, my favorite AOSP ROM is LiquidSmooth as I really like the customizations I can make with the ROM and how most things work. However, here are some differences between AOSP vs TW-based ROMs in a nutshell:
1. AOSP ROMs support for 4.2 camera is buggy currently. You have to touch the middle section to focus before you take a picture or it force closes where as TW-based ROMs do not have this problem with the 4.2 camera.
2. AOSP ROMs have more free RAM available than TW ROMs.
3. AOSP ROMs seem to be more customizable. The only example I can give of this is setting the clock along with AM/PM and the day (such as mon, tue, etc.) on the homescreen. I'm not 100% sure on this but I think there are more customizations on the lock screen as well.
4. I've heard that TW based ROMs are generally more stable than AOSP ROMs simply because AOSP wasn't originally designed for the Samsung Galaxy S 3 but somebody just hacked it up and ported it over so that it'd work on it.
5. This is not really major but AOSP/CM10 ROMs turn off the screen similar to how an old TV set used to turn off while TW-based ROMs have no special animation for the screen turning off so that's a plus for AOSP where it has a cool animation for turning off the screen.
6. I personally like the default launcher for AOSP better than TW but you can always install a different launcher for TW.
I hope this helps clarify AOSP ROMs vs TW based ROMs for you a little bit and please remember to thank me if it helped you.

In general, I would prefer AOSP except for the fact that it seems to get worse reception. Also when the signal is poor AOSP seems to handle data connections less gracefully. Seeing as I'm often in poor reception areas, I always find myself going back to TW.

Touchwiz is superior to aosp on the s3 and probably any other future samsung devices. Even kejar who was a main dev for aokp said he will most likely build a modded touchwiz rom for the note2, thats how much touchwiz has improved from the fascinate days.
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That being said im not bashing aosp...

droidstyle said:
Touchwiz is superior to aosp on the s3 and probably any other future samsung devices. Even kejar who was a main dev for aokp said he will most likely build a modded touchwiz rom for the note2, thats how much touchwiz has improved from the fascinate days.
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That being said im not bashing aosp...
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Can you provide any reasons why you would prefer Touchwiz to AOSP though? Saying Touchwiz is superior without giving any reasons seems to be a vague and subjective statement in my opinion.

gtgrad said:
Can you provide any reasons why you would prefer Touchwiz to AOSP though? Saying Touchwiz is superior without giving any reasons seems to be a vague and subjective statement in my opinion.
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I love the innovative features that Touchwiz brings that AOSP doesn't. Small things like Smart Stay, Motion Controls, and Slide to Text/Call keep me to love TouchWiz. Not only are the features great, but performance wise, it's great too. Samsung obviously optimized the hell out of the ICS builds of TouchWiz and did so with Jelly Bean too. Speed on TouchWiz is pretty much the same with any high quality AOSP rom.

The S3 is an extremely powerful phone and TW is very light (e.g. much lighter compared to Sense). The result is that the traditional benefits of AOSP (faster phone, more space, responsive) don't really apply.
Samsung also includes special codecs for the video player which only work with TW. Use a custom launcher and you have 90% of the benefits of a custom rom.
The TW launcher, camera, video and music players are IMO all very high quality.

I'd say touch wiz since miui isn't the most stable/bug free. Samsung out did themselves with the new touch wiz, they added slide hand across screen for screen shot, pop out video player, smart stay (screen stays on as long as you're looking at it), when viewing contact/message you can bring the phone to your ear and it will automatically begin calling said contact. Flip to mute sound, slide to call, built in notification settings toggles( airplane, WiFi, data, etc.) And that is just to name a few of the features.
Here is a link on a couple http://www.androidcentral.com/top-10-things-you-need-know-about-your-galaxy-s-iii
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Yes. I am actually fine with TouchWiz on my phone. This phone is freaking ridiculously fast. TouchWiz is just so hideous. After running aokp for several months on the phone I just upgraded from it's just kind of disappointing to see how Samsung has hijacked the notification curtain and made it look so awful. They also somehow stripped some functionality out of it. On aokp for my Fascinate you could minimize and maximize notifications. That was a feature added in Jelly Bean that isn't present in this leaked JB build apparently.
Most of the TouchWiz feature are neat but I wouldn't miss them. The camera and battery life are critical though.
I walk much prefer AOSP email, dialer,and SMS apps.
Basically if I could keep this TW build but add every element of AOSP I want I'd be happy.
Am going to be interested in MHL mirroring eventually too. I assume if I wanted to mirror my Dish network feed to a TV the only way the digital rights have a chance of being ignored it would be on AOSP

Well I found a thread allowing me to install AOSP Email in place of the vision-impaired crappy email app of TouchWiz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962097
This helps tremendously. No success yet finding a way to get JB dialer/phone/contacts working on a TW ROM but that would be tremendous.

DroidOnRoids said:
I love the innovative features that Touchwiz brings that AOSP doesn't. Small things like Smart Stay, Motion Controls, and Slide to Text/Call keep me to love TouchWiz. Not only are the features great, but performance wise, it's great too. Samsung obviously optimized the hell out of the ICS builds of TouchWiz and did so with Jelly Bean too. Speed on TouchWiz is pretty much the same with any high quality AOSP rom.
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Bingo!
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Can you provide any reasons why you would prefer Touchwiz to AOSP though? Saying Touchwiz is superior without giving any reasons seems to be a vague and subjective statement in my opinion.
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Didnt feel i needed to write a novel on this...spend a little time using both and you will know exactly what im saying.

Try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011503
The developer has great guides for many mods and some with flashable zips.

Google Experience S4

Hello there. Like many of you I love my S4 but want a more Google experience to my phone. A while so I posted a topic about how to improve your S4 without root to make it feel more like a stock android phone on the original Samsung rom. I loved the original Stock Samsung ROM but I wanted something different. Here is what I did to my phone to make it stock android.
I rooted my phone with motochopper following videos from wwjoshdew on YouTube. (Great channel with awesome helpful videos)
With root I improved some of the things that Samsung has going with the phone. Although Google makes the best... So I flashed a ROM.
I installed goo manager from the play store and then installed TWRP from goo. After this I created a backup if the Stock Samsung ROM and wiped the necessary files. I then flushed CyanogenMod 10.1 which is amazing.
Now to make the most of this ROM make sure to do a couple of things.
- install Nova launcher
- Reset the CPU and under clock
- optimize battery life
This will make the phone buttery smooth in everything that it does. I am running CM10.1 at 1.45ghz and getting battery for DAYS!!! I'm also using LMT launcher for Pie control which just adds to the phones new ROM. Play with the phone and add screenshots of the phone.
CyanogenMod 10.1 is a great alternative to the stock Samsung ROM that allows for the user to have a more Google experience. Its truly amazing and with its additions to the stock Android OS it is amazing!
Enjoy the ROM and enjoy using it!
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I have similar setup, the only difference is that I used a PAC-ROM instead of just Cyanogenmod. I can confirm that the performance is also buttery smooth. I haven't tried throttling down CPU clocks yet, but I'll give it a try and report back what I find on PAC-ROM

This is hardly "the Google experience" Its cyanogenmod... Granted its built from AOSP source, but its definitely far from stock android.
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Reynaldinho111 said:
This is hardly "the Google experience" Its cyanogenmod... Granted its built from AOSP source, but its definitely far from stock android.
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Is there a stock "GE" ROM out there - I've been hunting through the forums for some time - for a relative newbie the alphabet soup posts are tough to decrypt but I don't see any straight up GE roms?

Yes there's a couple. Pretty stable also. I'm running task aokp and its by far my favorite ROM. Dude knows his stuff.
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I think once CM 10.2 comes out with the new camera I'll be happy (assuming it lives up to they hype). The current CM camera is not especially good and a little unstable to boot. HDR doesn't work correctly either.
I greatly prefer the CM experience (and AOSP) to the stock TouchWiz one, mostly for reasons of aesthetics, but the AOSP and CM cameras are both way behind.

cdnchris said:
Is there a stock "GE" ROM out there - I've been hunting through the forums for some time - for a relative newbie the alphabet soup posts are tough to decrypt but I don't see any straight up GE roms?
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Oh really? Youve been hunting for quite some time? Just opening up the dev section and just scrolling through (didnt even need to use search function) I find these:
4.2.2 GE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357603
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341376
4.3 leak of GE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2370205
Now normally I would say to search before creating a thread...but this thread wasnt really asking for anything...so ill just leave it at this
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Frogacuda said:
I think once CM 10.2 comes out with the new camera I'll be happy (assuming it lives up to they hype). The current CM camera is not especially good and a little unstable to boot. HDR doesn't work correctly either.
I greatly prefer the CM experience (and AOSP) to the stock TouchWiz one, mostly for reasons of aesthetics, but the AOSP and CM cameras are both way behind.
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My theory:
The new cm will only live up to the hype on nexus devices, why? We are still working with the same camera drivers/libs...all it really is, is just a new app fir the camera...but we still need good source ti work with from samsung
I could be wrong about the aboce but thats what I believe
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mg2195 said:
Oh really? Youve been hunting for quite some time? Just opening up the dev section and just scrolling through (didnt even need to use search function) I find these:
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I've seen those, and even installed a few. They're all modified versions of the stock GE in some way shape or form. I suppose the question should be, are there any unmodified Google Edition ROMs available for the S4?

cdnchris said:
I've seen those, and even installed a few. They're all modified versions of the stock GE in some way shape or form. I suppose the question should be, are there any unmodified Google Edition ROMs available for the S4?
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The first link is pretty much unmodified...just debloated and deaodexed/zipaligned which is common for any rom as it enables easier use of mods if wanted...
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I'm rooted on stock with minor tweaks ie greenify,uninstall master to remove bloatware etc and I can average 5-5.5hrs of screen time on moderatetto heavy usage. What are you getting with your set up?

Suitable Cameras for S3 running 5.0 / 5.1+? My thoughts on current options

I have been getting a bit frustrated. I'm not sure if its a CM 12.1 issue, or just a hardware + lollipop issue.
Here is my opinion on cameras that 'work' with the rom, but have issues.
1. Stock CM 12.1 camera. Has known "cannot connect' issue. I believe this ASOP camera is the same as the Google Camera. Each version seems to have small tweaks /settings, but IMHO this camera lacks tons of useful features other stock cameras have. These are useful if all you care about is point and shoot, versus filters, scenes, etc.. I am lumping Google Camera in this, even though the icons are different.
2. OpenCamera. This is the one I am currently using, and seems to be stable for me, and I am running Nightly 12.1 July 15 nightly with DKP kernel (tweaked) and july 13 GAPPS. My only gripe is I still feel like the quality of the pics isn't what you get with stock, but also the delay between pics is annoying, as opposed to Google Camera which gives you pretty instantaneous snaps. Even with the thumbnail animation disabled, there is a 1/2 - 1 sec delay between pics.
3. Someone recommended the HTC Camera. I was able to find a series of APK versions from googling, and this camera had really good promise. You did need the HTC Gallery for it to work, BUT..and this was the deal breaker, the front camera broke for me. The front camera only worked, for a short time, with the most recent HTC Camera version...but would eventually freeze, and couldn't even force close. A reboot was required. Very annoying.
It would be awesome if we could flash another stock camera app in this, like the S4, S5, S6, etc.
Any other recommendations besides apps from the Play Store?

bryank29 said:
I have been getting a bit frustrated. I'm not sure if its a CM 12.1 issue, or just a hardware + lollipop issue.
Here is my opinion on cameras that 'work' with the rom, but have issues.
1. Stock CM 12.1 camera. Has known "cannot connect' issue. I believe this ASOP camera is the same as the Google Camera. Each version seems to have small tweaks /settings, but IMHO this camera lacks tons of useful features other stock cameras have. These are useful if all you care about is point and shoot, versus filters, scenes, etc.. I am lumping Google Camera in this, even though the icons are different.
2. OpenCamera. This is the one I am currently using, and seems to be stable for me, and I am running Nightly 12.1 July 15 nightly with DKP kernel (tweaked) and july 13 GAPPS. My only gripe is I still feel like the quality of the pics isn't what you get with stock, but also the delay between pics is annoying, as opposed to Google Camera which gives you pretty instantaneous snaps. Even with the thumbnail animation disabled, there is a 1/2 - 1 sec delay between pics.
3. Someone recommended the HTC Camera. I was able to find a series of APK versions from googling, and this camera had really good promise. You did need the HTC Gallery for it to work, BUT..and this was the deal breaker, the front camera broke for me. The front camera only worked, for a short time, with the most recent HTC Camera version...but would eventually freeze, and couldn't even force close. A reboot was required. Very annoying.
It would be awesome if we could flash another stock camera app in this, like the S4, S5, S6, etc.
Any other recommendations besides apps from the Play Store?
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It was in the KK builds also but some of the ROMs in KK had fully functioning camera but it went crap again with CM12.

I installed the FL-5 Camera and Cinema apps, paid for both. So far I am enjoying them and feel the quality and speed is great.

Camera 360 works suitably well. Solid filters and features if bloated. Its a veteran app and has seen its worst days long behind them. The magic skin filter is the best on android. Black is the color of Korean selfie sorcery. You purchase beauty but at what cost? Your soul of course, and an excessive UI.

A better camera is my personal go to.
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Be weary when flashing or porting camera apk's and firmware.
Basically a few weeks ago I hard bricked my SCH-I535 by flashing the wrong firmware for the camera to try to get it to work. So my only caution to you is the be absolutely sure the firmware of apk is compatible. I tried to port the firmware for the galaxy S5 to the S3 however I think the difference in firmware is what caused the problem. I extracted the S5 firmware for the stock camera app and then zipped it and signed it to be flashed on the S3. Well I knew what I had done when the phone buzzed once and never turned on again. I had an unlocked boot loader running CM 12.1 (if I remember correctly) and had CWM set as my custom recovery.
I wish you luck in your quest to find a working camera app for your S3. I know I wish I still had mine to fiddle with and maybe even downgrade while we wait for a solution to the non-working lollipop camera.