I just wondering Is there way to fix a front camera to at & t fuze using any hardware changing
Yes. There is. But no point. You would need the following:
OEM Fuze molded front cover of touch pro to see the front camera. (Or be ghetto and cut a hole through your front cover)
OEM VGA camera used in the touch pro
Like every other HTC phone, the front camera disabled phones have a socket for the front camera, but there is no camera. If you could find a dead touch pro that someone is selling for parts, buy the camera and it's possible. I don't know how to enable it software wise though.
Why in the world would they remove the front camera anyway? Does it really cost that much more for the front camera?
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Why in the world would they remove the front camera anyway? Does it really cost that much more for the front camera?
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Pick 2 of the below:
1. It cuts them a little cost
2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
3. Because they wanted to?
but At & T has one way live video sharing
I always see a few of these posts come up but i always also hear how video calling isn't as popular as we'd like. It's not implemented in the US even though they could have and where it is available it's still partially a flop.
Remove it i say!
I think the video calling its not popular in us, any us wireless company doesn't offer video calling and I would say video sharing is not popular either in us. Even thought someone traveling all round the world it might be very impotent. Specially, if they would offer international video calling.
so I'm saying keep this thread
Because,somebody who wants video calling can use this thread as help to enable video calling. Specially European and Asian they can use FUZE as global roaming phone with 3G coz touch pro doesn't have all HSDPA/WCDMA 850/900/2100/1900 MHz and keep their video calling.
as example like our member kraize he can use 3g feature in usa and go to India and use video calling and my self too
Confrencing
Hey Guys I own a Unbranded Tytn II Dual Camera And a Htc Fuse The us Wont see Video Confrencing Untill late 09 2010 But I posted a App on Xda Called Ivisit Just becuase no Us network Supports it Don't mean it can't Work Go to www.ivisit.com it is Full live Video Confrencing for Windows mobile And Mac/Pc And it Works Great If you only have one Camera it will be hard to keep turning the phone around unlike me with my Tytn II But Hey it's Still Real Confrencing ...So Check out Ivisit And yea Att wan'ts to Cut Cost if a Front Camera is not Needed
WTF? the FUZE has a front video camera?
where have i been?
Can we use tytn II front cam for Htc fuze I have seen they selling kaiser front cam on eBay can anybody find out is that work and if it is work then we have the front cam driver also i think
I like ivisit its awesome it is the best solution for the video calling problem in US
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Pick 2 of the below:
1. It cuts them a little cost
2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
3. Because they wanted to?
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2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
sorry but i gotta correct u on that ..
last week i went to a seminar for marketing directors in washington d.c, and i was able to do the whole "video call" with my wife and daughter when it was time for my daughter to go to bed.
worked OK..not perfect but it got the job done.
Late,
Jstar
I believe Kraze is talking about 2 way video calling which is why the non-US versions of TP have the front facing camera.
JstarLuvsTina said:
2. AT&T doesn't support video calling so no point
sorry but i gotta correct u on that ..
last week i went to a seminar for marketing directors in washington d.c, and i was able to do the whole "video call" with my wife and daughter when it was time for my daughter to go to bed.
worked OK..not perfect but it got the job done.
Late,
Jstar
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Yeah. I was talking about 2 way conferencing. and did you just video call from dialer? Or did you use 3rd party software?
If you want to go the other way, AT&T B2B sells a version of the Fuze with both cameras removed
Just a carry a pocket mirror!
Just carry a pocket mirror and have the mirror reflect your phone screen image. You can see the person at the other end this way on the mirror. Low tech solution to a hitech problem
I wonder why AT & T do not offer two way video calling. Can some one tell me Why is this at & t do not offer 2way video calling. I think whole Europe & Asia has two way video calling
There is a point
Although ATT or any other US wireless carrier may not support video conferencing, you can always use the vga camera for skype mobile, or any other reason people use a camera on themselves. People like to take pics of themselves for whatever reason, facebook, myspace, etc. , but it is a piece of hardware that makes the phone so popular, I think. Thats just me, I dont know how anybody else feels about that.
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Although ATT or any other US wireless carrier may not support video conferencing, you can always use the vga camera for skype mobile, or any other reason people use a camera on themselves. People like to take pics of themselves for whatever reason, facebook, myspace, etc. , but it is a piece of hardware that makes the phone so popular, I think. Thats just me, I dont know how anybody else feels about that.
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No, you can't.
i have an idea why not just wait until an actual two way conferencing phone comes out in the US. Its a good concept but i would rather have it come with the phone instead of rigging it that way
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Hi guys, i have a new touch pro "GSM" and made a rom update with energy rom 3.0, I am not able to make video calls or receive any. Can any 1 tell me a way to do this...... My GSM Network supports Video calls
Hi evrybody I'm a new user in this forum and I'm in a conflict that hope you guys could resolve with your knowlegde. I'm actually writing this thread with my Palm treo 750, I hope that this is the right spot for this thread cause I've been reading a lot of post in many forums and websites but I've got my self just more confused of what to do. Ok I've just brought this smartphone for my distantance and pocket connectivity esigence, I was new in the smartphone world and I found my self mistaken about evrythings. I wish to traw this phone in the bin rightnow. It's making me crazy! Costantly freezing and doesn't do what i need it to do. I need a smartphone that could give me video call via 3g or 4g with VoIP and single VoIP call, flash support (for flash website) and java support (always for the same reason), make fb and msn chat streaming video and music, writing and making photos/videos. I hate when my phone freeze without any apparently reason or lag cause I'm listening music and using internet in the same moment, plus my battery life is about 3 hours. I've been looking in internet and at the end I've arrived to the point that I have to decide betwen Htc evo and Iphone 4. I've tried Iphone 3 and I didn't like it at all, I hate the soft keyboard and the OS doesn't support flash. I've never tried htc evo but I know that andoid is awesome and support flash (I don't kow about java) both have soft keyboard but both have even hard keyboars with witch i can upgrade my phone with (so keyborad will not gonna be a problem) both OS have a lot of free and pay apps they are very versatile. I'm not so confortable with the fingertouch os but I can buy stylus for both mobile. The screen and the camera in the evo are better then the Iphone, and android it's really easy to use (for what I've seen on m.youtube cause I can't see normal youtube) instead of the iphone OS (witch I've found a bit tricky). The iphone have no expandible memory card, (evo does) and (if I'm not wrong) you can tweak android a lot more (and with less problem) than the iphone. So... I've got a calderon of confiuson in my head right now and I need some clarification because maybe what I'm saying is not correct and for sure most of you guys know more than me about. Plus this is just correlated througth my esigence, cause at the end a smartphone it's strictly related of what you want to do with that. Cheers guy, I'm sorry for the large thread but I wanted to be the most possibly clear. I thanks already you guys for this wonderful forum (that I've been using a LOT) and for the one's of you that gonna gimme suggest about.
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Hi evrybody I'm a new user in this forum and I'm in a conflict that hope you guys could resolve with your knowlegde. I'm actually writing this thread with my Palm treo 750, I hope that this is the right spot for this thread cause I've been reading a lot of post in many forums and websites but I've got my self just more confused of what to do. Ok I've just brought this smartphone for my distantance and pocket connectivity esigence, I was new in the smartphone world and I found my self mistaken about evrythings. I wish to traw this phone in the bin rightnow. It's making me crazy! Costantly freezing and doesn't do what i need it to do. I need a smartphone that could give me video call via 3g or 4g with VoIP and single VoIP call, flash support (for flash website) and java support (always for the same reason), make fb and msn chat streaming video and music, writing and making photos/videos. I hate when my phone freeze without any apparently reason or lag cause I'm listening music and using internet in the same moment, plus my battery life is about 3 hours. I've been looking in internet and at the end I've arrived to the point that I have to decide betwen Htc evo and Iphone 4. I've tried Iphone 3 and I didn't like it at all, I hate the soft keyboard and the OS doesn't support flash. I've never tried htc evo but I know that andoid is awesome and support flash (I don't kow about java) both have soft keyboard but both have even hard keyboars with witch i can upgrade my phone with (so keyborad will not gonna be a problem) both OS have a lot of free and pay apps they are very versatile. I'm not so confortable with the fingertouch os but I can buy stylus for both mobile. The screen and the camera in the evo are better then the Iphone, and android it's really easy to use (for what I've seen on m.youtube cause I can't see normal youtube) instead of the iphone OS (witch I've found a bit tricky). The iphone have no expandible memory card, (evo does) and (if I'm not wrong) you can tweak android a lot more (and with less problem) than the iphone. So... I've got a calderon of confiuson in my head right now and I need some clarification because maybe what I'm saying is not correct and for sure most of you guys know more than me about. Plus this is just correlated througth my esigence, cause at the end a smartphone it's strictly related of what you want to do with that. Cheers guy, I'm sorry for the large thread but I wanted to be the most possibly clear. I thanks already you guys for this wonderful forum (that I've been using a LOT) and for the one's of you that gonna gimme suggest about.
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I own both phones. I'd personally recommend the iPhone 4 over the EVO 4G. The display on the iPhone 4 is actually better: higher resolution, better colors, better viewing angles - the EVO's display is only bigger. The camera (both front and back) on the iPhone 4 is also better: it's 5MP but has a better sensor which leads to better quality stills and 720p video. The EVO also has a severely gimped/old GPU and while the iPhone 4's GPU is not cutting edge it's still a lot better in day to day use. Overall both phones have similar hardware features but just about everything on the iPhone 4 performs better - I wont get into software since that's more opinion/preference based.
With that said, I wouldn't recommend either for you. You seem to like Android (and it is a good OS) so with that in mind I'd recommend either a Nexus S (the best Android phone out IMO + VOIP is integrated into 2.3 which is only currently/officially available on the NS and may never land on the EVO), G2 (if you like hardware keyboards), or a MT4G (if you just want really beefy specs).
Cheers! Appriciate the anwser! I actually don't know about the OS maybe i could just get my self used to it. cause I've read that it have skype with video call (and that's one of the most important things). I'll like to try that nexsus that u was talkin bout. thank you! the nexsus seems the phone that i was looking at, but no programs till now support the front facing camera for video call..
So... engadget reports a skype video calling apk in the wild. Anyone enterprising want to see if it works on the gtab?
Downloading it right now and will report back soon.
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Won't install on mine. Running Calk.
Old news lol. Wont work on anything other than the thunderbolt, unless there are two which i doubt
Let me tell you guys a touching story regarding the importance of skype releasing an android app for video skype.
I have many family members in my home country (pick a random country in Asia). As my elderly parents are getting older and older, it is getting increasingly difficult for them to travel. My aunts and uncles are all in their 70s and 80s.
Right before last New Year, I slept over at my "girlfriend's" place. She went on her laptop and skype videoed her father, who was taking a vacation in Russia. Not knowing what the hell skype was, I asked her and she showed me how it worked. Excited, I drove to the best buy as fast as I could and bought all the equipments I needed. After several successful tests at home, I went over to my parents's place and set up skype for them. I also bought a desktop computer to hook up to their 60-something inch plasma tv so they could skype using a bigass tv.
The hard part came when I had to instruct my 78 yr old uncle back in my home country how to install skype and set it up. 7 non-consecutive hours later, his image popped up on our screen. It was just in time for new year as well. So, during new year, all of us (my 4 siblings and 9 nephews and nieces) all gathered at my parents' place and had a skype video conference with our entire family on the other side of the planet.
My parents nowadays regularly skype with people over there. I've made it my mission to make sure each member of our family has a webcam and skype ready to go.
Amazing how skype has made a difference in our family.
Now that my parents have a droid tablet, they kinda want to be able to skype video while sitting comfortably watching tv. So, for now we're still waiting.
Why dont we switch to oovoo? Simple. I don't want to spend another 7 hours talking over the phone instructing my elderly uncle on how to install oovoo.
Goodintentions.... it's nice to hear from you .... yes i am constantly travelling between the US and Europe and Africa and i really need to have video skype for very similar reasons. The very reason i bought a tablet, was to travel!
BEST WISHES
Heinrich
I installed it on my Thunderbolt and it's everything we always hoped it would be. It's Skype with clear video.
I tried to install on my G Tablet running Vegan Ginger RC1 and it shows a green check mark next to "Not Installed" and that's how the story ends for now...
MC
Skype installed - Stock G Tablet.
Sorry posted too soon. Missed the whole video part.
csharpe3
ok, my x10 was just returned to me on warranty and the new one i can't hear on the speaker and it's not getting good reception at my work. so i am exchanging it, again, for something else with att on an early upgrade. but not sure what i want this time. need something cheap or free. my options are:
xperia play
captivate
focus
htc surround
inspire (refurb)
impulse
my previous devices have been:
x10a + nexus S
g1
e72x
iphone 3gs
iphone 2g
8525
8125
2125
now with the past few years being android, all of my contacts, email, calendar, etc are through google services. i could easily convert them over, and i really want to try something different other than android. i would really like a wp7 phone.
my only requirements are:
good camera w/ hd video recording
good music player
turn by turn
google maps like functions
loud ear piece and ringtone
i'm at the point where i don't really want to mess around with flashing and cracking anymore. just want it to work and go.
really considering the focus.
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i'm at the point where i don't really want to mess around with flashing and cracking anymore. just want it to work and go.
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then get an iphone, before they are banned globally
no seriously get an iphone, that's why they are famous
already had 2 iphones. don't really like them, certainly do not like itunes and i want something different.
So I've been lurking around XDA for a while now. I'm not new to Android, and in fact I've used this site before to customize the Huawei Ideos/T-Mobile Comet.
I replaced that old phone with a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Slide and I've had it for a year unmodded
Anyways, one major thing that made me hold off on changing the rom on my phone is the fact that no matter what ROM was out, it couldn't record any higher than 720p. Now to most people, that isn't an issue, but the MAIN reason I bought the phone was for the 1080p recording.
With that being said, has there been any ROM developed that finally fixed the 1080p recording? I've read that the phone's ROM is based off the HTC Sensation, which is another phone with a similar camera and that recently got 1080p fixed. Has it been fixed for the Mytouch or is it on the way?
Also, what are the best roms for this phone with the least bugs?
Thanks for your time.
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So I've been lurking around XDA for a while now. I'm not new to Android, and in fact I've used this site before to customize the Huawei Ideos/T-Mobile Comet.
I replaced that old phone with a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Slide and I've had it for a year unmodded
Anyways, one major thing that made me hold off on changing the rom on my phone is the fact that no matter what ROM was out, it couldn't record any higher than 720p. Now to most people, that isn't an issue, but the MAIN reason I bought the phone was for the 1080p recording.
With that being said, has there been any ROM developed that finally fixed the 1080p recording? I've read that the phone's ROM is based off the HTC Sensation, which is another phone with a similar camera and that recently got 1080p fixed. Has it been fixed for the Mytouch or is it on the way?
Also, what are the best roms for this phone with the least bugs?
Thanks for your time.
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I've had the MT4GS for over a year now, S-OFF and unlocked. I've tested/run most of the available ROMs. Several of the newer ROMs are quite nice, but I think 1080P video is out of the question except for stock-based ROMs. Even though I've run some of the newer ROMs, I always end up going back to the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is just so stable and everything works like it is supposed to work. It is based on the last HTC stock ROM (the 1.63.531.2) but has been extensively tweaked and modded to make it much more smooth and unbloated. And 1080P video works perfect, of course.
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I've had the MT4GS for over a year now, S-OFF and unlocked. I've tested/run most of the available ROMs. Several of the newer ROMs are quite nice, but I think 1080P video is out of the question except for stock-based ROMs. Even though I've run some of the newer ROMs, I always end up going back to the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is just so stable and everything works like it is supposed to work. It is based on the last HTC stock ROM (the 1.63.531.2) but has been extensively tweaked and modded to make it much more smooth and unbloated. And 1080P video works perfect, of course.
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yeah the one of the most glaring issue for our device especially as compared to the sensation for ICS and newer is 1080p recording. any stock based ROM will have it, but anything else pretty much wont (yet...hopefully...)
It may just be me, but I think 1080p is a bit over rated for this phone. I can't find a significant difference between 720p and 1080p......it may just be because I'm used to 720p
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It may just be me, but I think 1080p is a bit over rated for this phone. I can't find a significant difference between 720p and 1080p......it may just be because I'm used to 720p
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I literally LoL at everyone who "can't" live without 1080. Its a phone people if you want a camera.......go buy one.
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I believe it's as much bragging rights as anything Strapped. It's certainly not because it limits usability.
If just viewing on the phone, then you'd be correct that there is little to no difference between 720P and 1080P recordings. But, exporting the video to view on a large screen, like a 47" 1080P TV, then yes, you would definitely see a very big difference in the quality and resolution. Saying "get a camera" is rather disingenuous. Why don't we all go back to carrying around a dumb phone, an mp3 player, a camera, a pager? Let's get a manpurse to hold it all!
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If just viewing on the phone, then you'd be correct that there is little to no difference between 720P and 1080P recordings. But, exporting the video to view on a large screen, like a 47" 1080P TV, then yes, you would definitely see a very big difference in the quality and resolution. Saying "get a camera" is rather disingenuous. Why don't we all go back to carrying around a dumb phone, an mp3 player, a camera, a pager? Let's get a manpurse to hold it all!
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Or people like you can get off their ass and start coding....just saying. Its not a walk down memory lane figuring this out. It sucks that when a dev tries its not good enough and then when we say go buy a camera were basically called a smartass. The DS camera is a joke if your not on Sense point blank period, no way around the garbage this produces nonstock.
The whole attitude of ill help you if you help me has left this community in a big way. And that's cool for you guys, cause continuing to want and not help will leave everyone stranded. I'm half tempted to tell jkilo to keep his DS ill mail mine to cybot and just be done once and for all. Because again free time is taken for granted from link sucking bums who offer nothing to the community
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Or people like you can get off their ass and start coding....just saying. Its not a walk down memory lane figuring this out. It sucks that when a dev tries its not good enough and then when we say go buy a camera were basically called a smartass. The DS camera is a joke if your not on Sense point blank period, no way around the garbage this produces nonstock.
The whole attitude of ill help you if you help me has left this community in a big way. And that's cool for you guys, cause continuing to want and not help will leave everyone stranded. I'm half tempted to tell jkilo to keep his DS ill mail mine to cybot and just be done once and for all. Because again free time is taken for granted from link sucking bums who offer nothing to the community
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Chill the **** out, dude. I wasn't slamming you and your rant is way out of line here. This was an honest discussion of the 1080P capabilities and a desire to have it available on ROMs other than stock. If it is your idea that only people who code and contribute code should use or have any voice in alternate ROM development, then I think you'd have a very lonely forum.
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If just viewing on the phone, then you'd be correct that there is little to no difference between 720P and 1080P recordings. But, exporting the video to view on a large screen, like a 47" 1080P TV, then yes, you would definitely see a very big difference in the quality and resolution. Saying "get a camera" is rather disingenuous. Why don't we all go back to carrying around a dumb phone, an mp3 player, a camera, a pager? Let's get a manpurse to hold it all!
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The main reason the Mytouch 4g slide was praised was because of the camera. It was pretty advanced for its time. In fact, there are few phones out there that match the Mytouch 4g slide in productivity and features. Most phones that now have 8megapixel cameras and 1080p recording don't even have a keyboard. The Mytouch doesn't sacrifice anything, with that being said, why would I (or anyone really) downgrade the mytouch?
Think about it this way.... why would you buy a Corvette and downgrade its engine? For better fuel economy? The car gets good mileage as is. The phone's the same way. My only gripes with the stock rom on the phone is the bloatware.
I did find something I liked so I'll play around with it see if its decent enough for me.
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The main reason the Mytouch 4g slide was praised was because of the camera. It was pretty advanced for its time. In fact, there are few phones out there that match the Mytouch 4g slide in productivity and features. Most phones that now have 8megapixel cameras and 1080p recording don't even have a keyboard. The Mytouch doesn't sacrifice anything, with that being said, why would I (or anyone really) downgrade the mytouch?
Think about it this way.... why would you buy a Corvette and downgrade its engine? For better fuel economy? The car gets good mileage as is. The phone's the same way. My only gripes with the stock rom on the phone is the bloatware.
I did find something I liked so I'll play around with it see if its decent enough for me.
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Miktouch 0.7 doesn't have any bloatware, it is tweaked nicely, runs very smoothly. It is stock-based, from the last HTC OTA for this phone, so the 1080P video works perfectly.
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Or people like you can get off their ass and start coding....just saying. Its not a walk down memory lane figuring this out. It sucks that when a dev tries its not good enough and then when we say go buy a camera were basically called a smartass. The DS camera is a joke if your not on Sense point blank period, no way around the garbage this produces nonstock.
The whole attitude of ill help you if you help me has left this community in a big way. And that's cool for you guys, cause continuing to want and not help will leave everyone stranded. I'm half tempted to tell jkilo to keep his DS ill mail mine to cybot and just be done once and for all. Because again free time is taken for granted from link sucking bums who offer nothing to the community
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Relax man, we're all friends here... It goes without saying this is more of a user biased device, considering how few devs there are.
You have to be ok with being just one of the few devs and not having that many people actively being able to help you. That's just how it is. Most people won't dev unless they're inspired or motivated to (insert reason X here). And there isn't much you can say or do to change that. Not every device will have the luxury of having multiple devs, and we're lucky to have the ones that we have.
I understand where you're coming from though. Have you seen any other forums where there's like only one dev? I swear it's like one momma pig and litters of runts. I won't mention which device, but there's more typed out thanking and BS going on in the dev section than anything else. I don't condone such behavior, but hey, whatever floats their boat.
But just because I don't contribute code doesn't mean I'm not helpful. Or at least I still think I am.
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If it is your idea that only people who code and contribute code should use or have any voice in alternate ROM development, then I think you'd have a very lonely forum.
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But it kinda is a "whatever they say goes" deal... If you don't code, whatever input you give is nothing more than an opinion or some general help at best. Not much authority with that.
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But it kinda is a "whatever they say goes" deal... If you don't code, whatever input you give is nothing more than an opinion or some general help at best. Not much authority with that.
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Then it is just devs doing a circle jerk. Having users actually use the ROMs and contribute their experiences in using those ROMs gives the dev a lot of feedback on how and what to improve or change.
I used to be all worried about losing my 1080p video capabilities when I first started flashing.
Then I realized I wasn't filming HD movies for Hollywood production and most of my videos never left the phone, let alone YT videos are rarely 1080p anyway. I'm betting most can't even tell the difference because it only matters on a screen larger than 35 inches anyway.
Get over it and you're in a wonderful place of magical ROMs built by great folks devoting their free time to mutual enjoyment.
Thank you developers!
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I used to be all worried about losing my 1080p video capabilities when I first started flashing.
Then I realized I wasn't filming HD movies for Hollywood production and most of my videos never left the phone, let alone YT videos are rarely 1080p anyway. I'm betting most can't even tell the difference because it only matters on a screen larger than 35 inches anyway.
Get over it and you're in a wonderful place of magical ROMs built by great folks devoting their free time to mutual enjoyment.
Thank you developers!
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Of course, if you're only viewing on a phone it makes no difference. But, some of us do export the videos to play on a large screen. Then, it does make a big difference. I want the best quality video possible when I'm viewing vids of my goddaughter I've taken each year when I go to China to visit.
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Of course, if you're only viewing on a phone it makes no difference. But, some of us do export the videos to play on a large screen. Then, it does make a big difference. I want the best quality video possible when I'm viewing vids of my goddaughter I've taken each year when I go to China to visit.
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I think tonight I'll test 720 vs 1080 on the 73 inch TV cause I want to see the difference cause I've never really cared, but now you sir have my mind wondering hahaha
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Of course, if you're only viewing on a phone it makes no difference. But, some of us do export the videos to play on a large screen. Then, it does make a big difference. I want the best quality video possible when I'm viewing vids of my goddaughter I've taken each year when I go to China to visit.
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If HD quality videos are that important, you really should own a professional camera for such things. The quality of the camera on your phone isn't comparable to a professional one made even 3-4 years ago. That's why I have my Olympus E-PL1. That takes 720p video that blows anything my phone does/did out of the water.
You're essentially buying a Hyundai for the speed. Just because it can go 100mph, doesn't mean it does it well.
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If HD quality videos are that important, you really should own a professional camera for such things. The quality of the camera on your phone isn't comparable to a professional one made even 3-4 years ago. That's why I have my Olympus E-PL1. That takes 720p video that blows anything my phone does/did out of the water.
You're essentially buying a Hyundai for the speed. Just because it can go 100mph, doesn't mean it does it well.
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Interesting point....
But then I saw this article yesterday and it puts an interesting spin on the whole 720p / 1080p debate....
http://gizmodo.com/5972475/a-pro-photographer-with-a-crappy-toy-camera-proves-hardware-doesnt-matter
GoPadge said:
Interesting point....
But then I saw this article yesterday and it puts an interesting spin on the whole 720p / 1080p debate....
http://gizmodo.com/5972475/a-pro-photographer-with-a-crappy-toy-camera-proves-hardware-doesnt-matter
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Ugh, that article frustrates me.
I'm well aware of this movement and also aware of how much a joke it is. I partnered with two local professional photographers, one a retired Xerox executive, who were also partners at Image City Photography Gallery in Rochester, NY within the last few years and discovered they held a mobile-phone only exhibit (once, mind you). The photos were awful, just like the one displayed in the article you linked. Even the partner photographers dabbled in it a bit, and with their genius, they touched up the photos HEAVY with effects to look different and interesting, but unless you were normally of the heavy distorted style or explained that they were taken with smartphones, the quality was shunned.
Please don't fall into the trap that art can be anything. That basically says that any photo taken anywhere at any time of anything is thus art. Then you're the same as a teenage girl who discovers Instagram and thinks she's some professional artist or some idiot that buys a $1200 DSLR thinking it automatically means they know anything about photography. Show me an entire wedding's professional photos done with a smartphone...
I'm not saying it won't get to the point when our smartphones are also professional quality photo devices, but we're years away.
No need to respond, just my opinions and ranting; as Instagram-nation frustrates me beyond belief.
To lighten the mood: http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6853117/look-at-this-instagram-nickelback-parody
rorytmeadows said:
If HD quality videos are that important, you really should own a professional camera for such things. The quality of the camera on your phone isn't comparable to a professional one made even 3-4 years ago. That's why I have my Olympus E-PL1. That takes 720p video that blows anything my phone does/did out of the water.
You're essentially buying a Hyundai for the speed. Just because it can go 100mph, doesn't mean it does it well.
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So why have a smartphone, just carry a dumb phone, an MP3 player, a camera, a pager, a laptop, and a nice backpack to hold it all. This phone has a 1080P video ability that works extremely well and takes excellent video. If I wanted to carry a separate camera with me everywhere and have it in my hand all the time on the chance that I might see something I want to record, that would be great, wouldn't it? Do you have that Olympus with you ALL THE TIME?
By your logic, every complaint about a ROM can be easily solved. Keyboard not working correctly? Well, you don't need a keyboard, there is a keyboard on the screen you can use, you're stupid for wanting that qwerty, anyway. Music not playing well/audio cutting out? Get a real music player like an iPod, if you're serious about music you shouldn't be using a phone anyway. Battery life sucks? Shouldn't be using your phone like a computer anyway, get a laptop with a bigger battery.
And the "you're not a professional so don't bother wanting better quality"... My reply to that would not be allowed in this forum. I've seen a lot of people carrying professional equipment that couldn't take a good photograph if their life depended upon it. Just because you can afford to buy expensive crap doesn't mean you know any more about photography than the guy with a crappy smartphone.
I've taken video at 720P using a CM10 ROM and I've compared it to video of the same subject taken at 1080P using the MIktouch ROM. The difference when viewing on even a 42" 1080P television screen is very apparent. I don't have to be a professional photographer to notice or appreciate it.